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Then there is a question of whether particularly massive planets are really stars that failed to ignite. One school of thought says that if an exoplanet has a mass more than 13 times that of Jupiter, it is not a real planet, but rather a brown dwarf. That is because it is capable, in theory, of sustaining the nuclear fusion which would transform it into a star. If so, then some of the most massive exoplanets found to date might better be classified as failed stars.
America's space agency, NASA, also has plans to launch a dedicated rocky-planet hunter. The Kepler mission is similar to COROT, but will be more sensitive. Moreover, it will be placed in an orbit better suited to locating its quarry. The European mission is hampered by its low orbit: the Earth, the moon and the sun periodically obscure its view. Kepler will not suffer that indignity, because it will be placed in orbit around the sun, trailing behind the Earth. If all goes well, the spacecraft should be launched early in 2009.2. Comment #47240 by Henri Bergson on June 3, 2007 at 5:01 pm
3. Comment #47243 by serrano on June 3, 2007 at 5:15 pm
More like RELEVANCE_REBEL4. Comment #47246 by Jolly Wally on June 3, 2007 at 5:30 pm
They aren't UFO'S MIND_REBEL! We now know them to be PLANETS!!!5. Comment #47252 by MelM on June 3, 2007 at 6:19 pm
Answers In Genisis has something to say about this in the article: The existence and origin of extrasolar planets.To explain how extrasolar planets can be extremely near their stars, it is becoming accepted today among scientists that the extrasolar planets formed several astronomical units from their star and then migrated closer to the star. The complexities and difficulties of this process make naturalistic origin theories implausible. However, in a young-age creation point of view, such planets could have been created at any distance from the star, making complex migration processes unnecessary.Hmmm. "Complexities and difficulties". Seems like I've heard this somewhere before.
It will be concluded that the existence of these objects, as an issue of experimental science, does not conflict with the young-age creation viewpoint. On the other hand, on the issue of their origin, planet formation theories of today are in conflict with a Biblical creationary worldview. Accepted naturalistic theories must be rejected by creationists in favor of them being supernaturally and recently created.
6. Comment #47259 by Jimill on June 3, 2007 at 7:04 pm
7. Comment #47264 by Ohnhai on June 3, 2007 at 7:52 pm
8. Comment #47269 by M31 on June 3, 2007 at 8:29 pm
9. Comment #47270 by valleyshrew on June 3, 2007 at 9:11 pm
10. Comment #47271 by eggplantbren on June 3, 2007 at 9:29 pm
11. Comment #47272 by MelM on June 3, 2007 at 9:34 pm
M31,12. Comment #47276 by DavidJMH on June 3, 2007 at 10:45 pm
Ladies and Gentlemen,13. Comment #47279 by Bizarro Dawkins on June 3, 2007 at 11:27 pm
"Even if it isnt intelligent life on one of those planets, it still tells us that it is possible for life to form on its own and propagate itself."14. Comment #47280 by BAEOZ on June 3, 2007 at 11:48 pm
Finding life on another planet would imply precisely nothing regarding the issue of God's existence or abiogenesis.
True, but it nukes the Bible, Torah, Quran and any other holy book. None of them mention life on another planet. They don't even mention planets as such. So life on another planet would pretty much mean they'd have to be rewritten.
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15. Comment #47282 by Bizarro Dawkins on June 4, 2007 at 12:02 am
"True, but it nukes the Bible, Torah, Quran and any other holy book. None of them mention life on another planet. They don't even mention planets as such. So life on another planet would pretty much mean they'd have to be rewritten."16. Comment #47284 by Philip1978 on June 4, 2007 at 12:50 am
17. Comment #47285 by eggplantbren on June 4, 2007 at 1:03 am
18. Comment #47286 by eggplantbren on June 4, 2007 at 1:10 am
19. Comment #47289 by Veronique on June 4, 2007 at 1:54 am
20. Comment #47292 by NMcC on June 4, 2007 at 2:06 am
I once read a Christian writer who was absolutely 100% certain that there couldn't be intelligent life on any other planet in the universe. If there were, he opined, "who would save them? Certainly not Jesus Christ."21. Comment #47293 by Robert Maynard on June 4, 2007 at 2:20 am
Bizarro Dawkins is right. If life was found on another planet it wouldn't have the slightest effect on the faith of most religious people simply because nothing ever would.A devastatingly succinct comment. :)
"As long as a person maintains that his beliefs represent an actual state of the world (visible or invisible, spiritual or mundane), he must believe that his beliefs are a consequence of the way the world is. This, by definition, leaves him vulnerable to new evidence. Indeed, if there were no conceivable change in the world that could get a person to question his religious beliefs, this would prove that his beliefs were not predicated upon his taking any state of the world into account. He could not claim, therefore, to be representing the world at all."-- Sam Harris, The End of Faith
22. Comment #47363 by magetoo on June 4, 2007 at 8:45 am
#47279 by Bizarro Dawkins:And you know, why does everyone on this forum have to take a neutral article such as this one and hurl these contextually irrelevant digs at religion?
23. Comment #47429 by sgr79 on June 4, 2007 at 1:33 pm
24. Comment #47492 by steve99 on June 4, 2007 at 5:27 pm
Finding life on another planet would imply precisely nothing regarding the issue of God's existence or abiogenesis.
25. Comment #47497 by james_the_doubter on June 4, 2007 at 5:56 pm
the bible contains totally irrelevant information about the earth being flat and it being around 6000 years old
26. Comment #47499 by MelM on June 4, 2007 at 5:56 pm
This is an atheist blog.27. Comment #47500 by He'sAVeryNaughtyBoy on June 4, 2007 at 6:14 pm
Hi James - what a strange idea, Jesus going to other planets and dieing for them too.28. Comment #47507 by magetoo on June 4, 2007 at 7:07 pm
#47499 by MelM29. Comment #47511 by james_the_doubter on June 4, 2007 at 7:35 pm
Would he have appeared on those other planets at the same time?Timing is irrelevant.
Would he have suffered an incredibly coincidental fate on those planets too?Yes.
Would his disciples feel happy about using 'old sparky' as the symbol to represent their religion?Yes.
It should not come as a surprise that we get a lot of "those militant atheists" articles when the first stop of any research on RD looks like this
30. Comment #47566 by He'sAVeryNaughtyBoy on June 5, 2007 at 1:45 am
@Magetoo - this site was set up around The God Delusion, you should hardly be surprised if the talk is about religion. What you want from peoples comments and what people are free to comment about appear to be two different things.31. Comment #47624 by sgr79 on June 5, 2007 at 4:59 am
32. Comment #47666 by Philip1978 on June 5, 2007 at 8:24 am
33. Comment #47822 by sgr79 on June 5, 2007 at 3:58 pm
34. Comment #47832 by james_the_doubter on June 5, 2007 at 4:49 pm
Philip,35. Comment #47835 by james_the_doubter on June 5, 2007 at 5:01 pm
If timing is irrelevant, then what was so special about the time that Jesus decided to come to Earth?
What if he needed to be on another planet at exactly the same time? Would that mean that there would have to be another Jesus, would there be one Jesus but spread over two planets, or would the other planet just have to make do whilst Jesus was on this one?
If Jesus "had" to meet a gruesome fate at the hands of the aliens on the other planets (just as he had to meet that fate on Earth), then what does that say about freedom of will?
36. Comment #47838 by BAEOZ on June 5, 2007 at 5:11 pm
37. Comment #47842 by james_the_doubter on June 5, 2007 at 5:26 pm
BAEOZ,38. Comment #47844 by BAEOZ on June 5, 2007 at 5:41 pm
39. Comment #47846 by james_the_doubter on June 5, 2007 at 5:50 pm
Well, fairies? Finally, SOMEONE asked! Wait a minute...this is a trick, isn't it? ;-]40. Comment #47847 by BAEOZ on June 5, 2007 at 5:52 pm
41. Comment #47889 by Philip1978 on June 6, 2007 at 12:31 am
42. Comment #48321 by james_the_doubter on June 7, 2007 at 12:45 pm
Phillip,43. Comment #48433 by Philip1978 on June 8, 2007 at 12:29 am
44. Comment #56130 by drenghdndvtm on July 13, 2007 at 11:40 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Satan a large part of the Bible? He isn't omnipresent. How do we get around that?45. Comment #64235 by Rational_G on August 18, 2007 at 7:33 pm
1. Comment #47236 by MIND_REBEL on June 3, 2007 at 4:47 pm
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