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"The unique and special place of each and every person in creation is a fundamental truth that must be safeguarded."
"I firmly believe that each human person, regardless of circumstance, was willed into being and made for a purpose."
". . the process of creation—and indeed life today—is sustained by the hand of God in a manner known fully only to him."
"While no stone should be left unturned in seeking to discover the nature of man's origins, we can say with conviction that we know with certainty at least part of the outcome. Man was not an accident and reflects an image and likeness unique in the created order. Those aspects of evolutionary theory compatible with this truth are a welcome addition to human knowledge. Aspects of these theories that undermine this truth, however, should be firmly rejected as atheistic theology posing as science."
2. Comment #48166 by krogercomplete on June 6, 2007 at 11:23 pm
It just makes so much damned sense.4. Comment #48172 by greg_m on June 7, 2007 at 12:43 am
"The religious conviction that "man" is unique in ways that really matter is compelling in many ways—surely our language, art, music, and science itself are unique products of life on this planet—but holding our uniqueness to be a dogma immune to scientific analysis is an arrogant, and ultimately foolhardy, declaration of authority".
5. Comment #48175 by Logicel on June 7, 2007 at 12:51 am
6. Comment #48177 by Logicel on June 7, 2007 at 12:58 am
7. Comment #48206 by pewkatchoo on June 7, 2007 at 3:44 am
8. Comment #48212 by Philip1978 on June 7, 2007 at 4:01 am
9. Comment #48219 by Misha Vargas on June 7, 2007 at 4:45 am
I don't think the term "atheistic theology" is such an oxymoron.10. Comment #48227 by pewkatchoo on June 7, 2007 at 6:03 am
11. Comment #48230 by Philip1978 on June 7, 2007 at 6:33 am
12. Comment #48235 by Hip_Priest on June 7, 2007 at 6:42 am
Over half of all Americans don't know that the Earth orbits the Sun once a year
13. Comment #48241 by pewkatchoo on June 7, 2007 at 7:22 am
14. Comment #48242 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on June 7, 2007 at 7:25 am
15. Comment #48245 by Philip1978 on June 7, 2007 at 7:32 am
16. Comment #48249 by pewkatchoo on June 7, 2007 at 7:38 am
Apathy about science and technology seems especially rampant among my fellow Americans, among whom indifference toward scientific understanding is almost considered a badge of honor. A recent National Science Foundation survey showed that less than half of American adults understand that the Earth orbits the sun yearly, only 21 percent can define DNA, and just 9 percent know what a molecule is. Another poll showed that one in seven American adults--roughly 25 million people--could not even locate the United States on an unlabeled world map. NASA administrator Dan Goldin cites a question he received while defending funding for the space agency: "Why are we building meteorological satellites when we have the Weather Channel?"
17. Comment #48253 by konquererz on June 7, 2007 at 7:43 am
Over half of all Americans don't know that the Earth orbits the Sun once a year
I don't believe that for one second.
18. Comment #48256 by Murray Keedis on June 7, 2007 at 7:49 am
A puny, runt of a museum recently opened in Canada's red-neck province, Alberta. Founded and funded by a chap who toils in oil, this 900 square foot building celebrates the "science" of creationism. It's nowhere near as grand and wearying as the Kentucky Museum of Egregious Lies (or whatever the Hades that edifice to fundamentalist creationist-mongering is called) but it's still bizarre to see a monument of monumental error erected by a man who makes a living off remains of ancient life.19. Comment #48263 by Hip_Priest on June 7, 2007 at 8:07 am
An earlier post of mine:Over half of all Americans don't know that the Earth orbits the Sun once a year
I don't believe that for one second.
20. Comment #48269 by Jeffersonian-Marxist on June 7, 2007 at 8:53 am
14. Comment #48242 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on June 7, 2007 at 7:25 am 21. Comment #48288 by graham513 on June 7, 2007 at 10:33 am
Really well put. Growing Up In The Universe should be required in every teaching institution including the faith based ones. If people can watch that and still think evolution isn't likely, theres no hope for them.22. Comment #48424 by jackdavis on June 7, 2007 at 10:53 pm
Excellent article by Dr.Coyne. A few posters didn't believe him when he said half of all Americans don't know the Earth orbits the sun in a year. It's true, however. Lawrence Krauss in the great atheistic magazine Free Inquiry (April/may 2006)says "in a 2001 National Science Foundation survey of scientific literacy, just 50% of American adults knew that the Earth orbits the sun and takes a year to do it."23. Comment #48464 by neddludd on June 8, 2007 at 3:40 am
For more details on the candidates' faith, the Belief Net is running a series of interviews with them. First, John Edwards.24. Comment #48802 by phasmagigas on June 9, 2007 at 5:12 am
25. Comment #48847 by baal on June 9, 2007 at 7:23 am
Dear Misha26. Comment #48869 by Misha Vargas on June 9, 2007 at 9:08 am
To baal (I prefer ba'al)27. Comment #48875 by flyingscot on June 9, 2007 at 9:53 am
28. Comment #48900 by lt_zippy2 on June 9, 2007 at 12:09 pm
With regards to "atheistic theology" just type the word "atheology" into any good search engine and you'll find the subject does indeed exist, as a branch of philosophy.29. Comment #48918 by AburKadabur on June 9, 2007 at 2:55 pm
America is a failed experiment.30. Comment #48926 by krogercomplete on June 9, 2007 at 3:48 pm
America is a failed experiment.
31. Comment #48927 by Enlightenme.. on June 9, 2007 at 3:58 pm
32. Comment #48990 by Auld on June 9, 2007 at 11:07 pm
The next time someone tries to sock you with33. Comment #49019 by mpbrockman on June 10, 2007 at 2:54 am
How do I quote on this forum?34. Comment #49032 by reggiedixon on June 10, 2007 at 3:46 am
greg_m, logicel - The Monkey video35. Comment #49057 by Enlightenme.. on June 10, 2007 at 6:03 am
36. Comment #49058 by sgr79 on June 10, 2007 at 6:20 am
37. Comment #49061 by BAEOZ on June 10, 2007 at 6:54 am
38. Comment #49062 by BAEOZ on June 10, 2007 at 6:56 am
39. Comment #49064 by BAEOZ on June 10, 2007 at 7:09 am
Most Americans can't even say the Pledge of Allegiance or sing America the Beautiful, yet they are very patriotic.
As the Roman guy said, give the masses food and circus and they will do what you will.....
And as for atheist theology. Lack of belief in the study of a god? I'm not blaming anyone here, but we perhaps when someone arrives we may point out that we (in this case I'm speaking for myself and guessing I'm not alone) don't believe that god (or Thor) doesn't exist, simply we have no evidence to the existence of the god of Abraham, or said tooth fairy. I'm not a philosopher, so I may be contradicted, but as I see it, lack of belief isn't positive belief in anything.... Sorry, the lure of Boags Premium, I may be talking rubbish.
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40. Comment #49084 by JDAM on June 10, 2007 at 8:46 am
re: Comment #4891841. Comment #49087 by JDAM on June 10, 2007 at 8:54 am
re Comment #4892742. Comment #49180 by Tumara Baap on June 10, 2007 at 11:17 pm
I wouldn't hold it against the Times for publishing the Op-Ed. There's a reason they call it an opinion and don't lump it with the rest of the news. Whereas op-eds are usually published for their worthy insight, it is no less important to glean the thinking behind persons of interest especially when that thinking is royally screwed up. In this case it was just that: "Can you believe this buffoon?" Follow up comments in the Time were mostly critical of Brownback.43. Comment #49183 by TIKI AL on June 10, 2007 at 11:38 pm
I believe the case for evolution was made once and for all when 3 living missing links raised their hands on the republican debate stage.44. Comment #49220 by Calilasseia on June 11, 2007 at 4:05 am
45. Comment #49245 by minstrel on June 11, 2007 at 6:15 am
Everybody knows geeks can't get laid.
46. Comment #49266 by gcdavis on June 11, 2007 at 8:08 am
47. Comment #49276 by blaine on June 11, 2007 at 9:50 am
Wow, this is really well written.48. Comment #49297 by RabbitDynamite on June 11, 2007 at 12:26 pm
Does anyone find that the second Brownback quote provides an excellent definition of fundamentalist religious views - "If it disagrees with what I believe, it is wrong."49. Comment #49366 by sgr79 on June 11, 2007 at 4:22 pm
Does anyone find that the second Brownback quote provides an excellent definition of fundamentalist religious views - "If it disagrees with what I believe, it is wrong."
50. Comment #49380 by ThomasB on June 11, 2007 at 5:46 pm
1. Comment #48162 by alovrin on June 6, 2007 at 11:01 pm
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