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2. Comment #54400 by Mango on July 6, 2007 at 9:19 pm
3. Comment #54416 by Beachbum on July 7, 2007 at 1:54 am
4. Comment #54447 by sornord on July 7, 2007 at 6:58 am
Just personal observation but, as one who came up through the US school system in the '70's, and raised kids through it in the '90s and '00's, it seems that sciences, maths, and critical thinking take a back seat to promotion of self-esteem (deserved or not), political correctness, multi-culturalism, social skills and socio-political activism.5. Comment #54448 by bluebird on July 7, 2007 at 7:19 am
6. Comment #54459 by ranjani on July 7, 2007 at 8:44 am
sornord:7. Comment #54461 by bluebird on July 7, 2007 at 9:47 am
8. Comment #54463 by ghostbuster on July 7, 2007 at 10:05 am
Not only is America lacking in basic knowledge, her general population seems to be lacking the ability to want it. Let's take "Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader" show. Stupid to begin with. Then you have a university graduate presented with: x=xy, xy=3, what number does x equal? She flunked.9. Comment #54466 by Convertedchristian on July 7, 2007 at 10:48 am
To address the comments made by GHOSTBUSTER I don't really understand what your getting at. HOw does lack of knowledge in one area lead to terrorism? And as far as the rest of the world laughing at OUR ingnorance why don't they just laugh at theirs. I can't imagine that the US popuation is significantly worse at science then our european counterparts. People who are interested in science are going to know more about science. The majority are just not going to spend their time trying to teach themselves science. Speaking of that show(smarter then a 5th grader) the woman was nervous i bet. I would be if I knew that I was going to be on national tv.THe fact is that scientific literacy as gotten better in the last two decades. It is a slow process but it IS getting better. They don't really need that information in thier everyday lives anyway. I would be worried if our scientist were bad but the US has won 70% of the worlds Nobel prizes. And 90% of our best scientist are athiest. I'm not worried if Ma and PA can't tell me what an nutron is. I just wish they could.10. Comment #54469 by Fezik on July 7, 2007 at 11:05 am
Ranjani, Bluebird,11. Comment #54471 by Convertedchristian on July 7, 2007 at 11:16 am
Also GhostBuster, I'm not attacking your argument I would just like for you to give me more info on why you believe what you believe. On a brighter note, If the 5th graders in that show are smarter then the collage students then our 5th graders are very inteligent!! Kodos to the education system for doing at least one thing right.12. Comment #54485 by ranjani on July 7, 2007 at 12:16 pm
sonord:13. Comment #54504 by willbonds on July 7, 2007 at 2:20 pm
It's better to get back on topic.14. Comment #54514 by ghostbuster on July 7, 2007 at 3:19 pm
The 5th graders are not necessarily more informed or more intelligent---just paid actors.15. Comment #54522 by _J_ on July 7, 2007 at 4:10 pm
sornord:
I am not sure what you meant by "tree hugging hippie crap". I hope you are not referring to people like Dr.Wilson who are staunch conservationists, environmentalists and many others like him. Ironically the same critical skills that you bemoan the loss of are the tools of all these scientists that have brought the issue of AGW to the fore,not to mention human activity driven species extinction. Just an observation.
16. Comment #54535 by willbonds on July 7, 2007 at 4:58 pm
_J_: Can't disagree with you that there is a lot of lemming-like behavior out there based on anything but science. My two bits on the environment: I see the science pointing both ways, yet the science is skewed by the man-behind-the-curtain, as you say. People get worked up about alternative fuels being the fix-all for the environment, but seem to forget that we have a problem as big as the environment -- we appear to be running out of cheap energy. Solve that one in a responsible way and you kill two birds with one stone.17. Comment #54536 by Convertedchristian on July 7, 2007 at 5:04 pm
ya, I was talking to my mother and I asked here if she could remember our war on panama that happened in the 80's and she said, "we never went to war with panama" then she said that even if we did there had to be a good reason. It is that kind of mentality that has brought us to where we are today. I'm working on my mother. The government has the people convinced that they can do no wrong. The use religion to make the majority think that they(the leaders) are just like us and would never hurt innocent people. Religous right republicans cant see whats going on with an objective view because they think its treason to question anything the chruch says and the government. With luck we can begin to change america for the better. Mr. Dawkins is one of those men who are trying to get ameicans to raise thier awareness. I thank him.18. Comment #54537 by ranjani on July 7, 2007 at 5:14 pm
_J_: I have no idea what Live Earth is and, is there a presumption in your statement that I look to the so called celebrities for information about the science on global warming? I do wish people would stop behaving as if they had a monopoly on critical thinking.19. Comment #54541 by Convertedchristian on July 7, 2007 at 5:29 pm
I'm watching Live Earth right now. concerts really do help I think and we have the power to change and Live Earth is trying to make people aware that we need to change NOW.20. Comment #54542 by Dr Benway on July 7, 2007 at 5:30 pm
As a species, we have a track record for jumping wholesale onto scientifically questionable bandwagons and later wishing we hadn't (Banning DDT, anyone?)Off topic: DDT was bad for birds. That's all I'm saying.
21. Comment #54545 by ranjani on July 7, 2007 at 5:46 pm
Dr.Benway:22. Comment #54549 by _J_ on July 7, 2007 at 5:54 pm
23. Comment #54550 by _J_ on July 7, 2007 at 5:55 pm
24. Comment #54552 by Dr Benway on July 7, 2007 at 6:00 pm
25. Comment #54553 by _J_ on July 7, 2007 at 6:07 pm
Environmental answers are never simple.
26. Comment #54557 by alovrin on July 7, 2007 at 6:27 pm
27. Comment #54559 by Dr Benway on July 7, 2007 at 6:54 pm
Jimi Hendrix, Steve Winwood ...Dinosaurs do walk among men.
28. Comment #54576 by Cairnarvon on July 7, 2007 at 9:53 pm
As a species, we have a track record for jumping wholesale onto scientifically questionable bandwagons and later wishing we hadn't (Banning DDT, anyone?)
29. Comment #54578 by Dr Benway on July 7, 2007 at 10:04 pm
Are you fucking kidding me?Amen brother.
30. Comment #54587 by alovrin on July 8, 2007 at 1:25 am
Dinosaurs do walk among men.
31. Comment #54603 by _J_ on July 8, 2007 at 4:50 am
Are you fucking kidding me?
Amen brother.
32. Comment #54634 by JanChan on July 8, 2007 at 8:54 am
The only thing Live Earth demonstrate is the fanatics among all of us. If they really want a day set aside to promote conservation, they should put up informative shows like those made by Carl Sagan, not holding a rock concert.33. Comment #54641 by Cairnarvon on July 8, 2007 at 10:07 am
But I wasn't 'fucking kidding' either. The 'start-stop-maybe start again-keep it going a bit-completely axe it' application of DDT in malarial countries appears to have led to literally millions of preventable human deaths over the last few decades.
For a minute there I was a very nervous titmouse. Nice to know at least one human's got me back.
The only thing Live Earth demonstrate is the fanatics among all of us. If they really want a day set aside to promote conservation, they should put up informative shows like those made by Carl Sagan, not holding a rock concert.
34. Comment #54651 by _J_ on July 8, 2007 at 11:10 am
35. Comment #54660 by Dr Benway on July 8, 2007 at 11:36 am
36. Comment #54831 by hungarianelephant on July 9, 2007 at 4:18 am
_J_: Can't disagree with you that there is a lot of lemming-like behavior out there based on anything but science. My two bits on the environment: I see the science pointing both ways, yet the science is skewed by the man-behind-the-curtain, as you say. People get worked up about alternative fuels being the fix-all for the environment, but seem to forget that we have a problem as big as the environment -- we appear to be running out of cheap energy. Solve that one in a responsible way and you kill two birds with one stone.
37. Comment #70289 by hakija on September 14, 2007 at 6:13 pm
1. Comment #54396 by ferfuracious on July 6, 2007 at 7:59 pm
"American adults in general do not understand what molecules are (other than that they are really small)."I suppose it must be easy to believe in homeopathy if you don't even know what water is made of. It's probably even easier to believe water turns to wine if you don't understand the difference between them.
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