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Tuesday, August 14, 2007 | Science : In the News | print version Print | Comments

Document Saudis to build their own version of Eden Project

by Steve Connor, The Independent

Reposted from:
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2861728.ece

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A series of botanical landscapes that go back in evolutionary time are to be built in the desert of Saudi Arabia as part of an ambitious project to design the world's biggest indoor gardens.

British architects and scientists are to act as advisers on the project to erect two giant crescent-shaped enclosures which will be five times the size of the Eden Project's famous transparent domes in Cornwall.

The environments of the enclosed spaces will be strictly regulated to ensure that the temperature and humidity are optimum for the growth of plants that will span the entire history of botanical life from 400 million years ago until the present day.

Visitors to the site, located just outside Saudi Arabia's capital, Riyadh, will be able, in effect, to walk back through time and witness the evolutionary changes and adaptations that have created the mosses, ferns, lichens, trees and flowering plants of today.

The project's designers have promised the structure will use the minimum of energy to keep it cool in the 45C heat of the desert. Sources of renewable energy such as combined heat and power, as well as solar and wind energy, will be fully exploited, they pledged.

In addition, evaporation from the site will be kept to a minimum so that the water demands of the giant greenhouses will be kept to a minimum. Dirty "grey" water will be recycled wherever possible, they said.

"This is a ground-breaking project which draws together some of the best minds in sustainable construction, historical botany, ecology and design," said Nick Sweet, project director at Barton Willmore, the designers. "We wanted to use the scheme to tell the story of a single piece of land through time. It might be a desert now, but there was a time when rivers flowed here and forests grew," Mr Sweet added.

Each of the five indoor gardens will represent a particular epoch in botanical time. It will start with the Devonian period, when some of the first plants evolved 400 million years ago - such as the mosses, ferns and liverworts. Next comes the Carboniferous garden - a tropical wetland swamp forest of about 300 million years ago. Any known species that have since become extinct will be represented by models painted a ghostly grey.

Other periods include the Jurassic (142 million to 206 million years ago) and Cretaceous (65 million to 142 million years ago) - when dinosaurs roamed the Earth - as well as the Cenozoic (65 million to the present) and the Pliocene (3.5 million to 1.2 million years ago).

A final garden, called the Garden of Choices, will attempt to explain what may happen to the Earth in the future as a result of the different possible scenarios resulting from human activity. Visitors can follow two paths. The "do nothing" path will lead to a dead-end, while the other path widens out into a range of botanical possibilities.

The central crescents at the heart of the structure, which is to be named the King Abdullah International Gardens, will tower 40 metres (130ft) above the desert and will be the largest Teflon construction in the world.

Paul Kendrick, a palaeobotanist at the Natural History Museum in London, who is acting as a scientific adviser to the project, said the aim was to educate visitors about the botanical changes that have occurred over 400 million years in a desert region that has experienced dramatic climate change over the eons.

The ages of plant life preserved

* DEVONIAN (400 million years ago)

The origin of multicellular plants, comprising mosses and liverworts

* CARBONIFEROUS (300 million years ago)

Swamps and peat-filled wetlands, leading to coal-bearing seams

* JURASSIC

(206 to 142 million years ago)

Lush woodlands where dinosaurs roamed

* CRETACEOUS

(142 million to 65 million years ago)

Origin of flowering plants. Now account for 80 per cent of species

* CENOZOIC

(65 million years ago to the present)

Vast array of varieties, evolving with pollinators

* PLIOCENE

(3.5 million years ago)

Acacia and aquatic plants suited to wetlands

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1. Comment #63359 by gordon on August 14, 2007 at 3:01 am

 avatarIt will be interesting to see how much energy is used in the manufacturing and running of this project and if it will be oil powered. Despite the abundance of sunshine in Saudi, there is little uptake of any power from this source. Still, it's better than building another mosque.

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2. Comment #63363 by BAEOZ on August 14, 2007 at 3:07 am

 avatarI thought Saudi Arabia was full of Wahabists, who took a literal reading of the Quran. The world according to them, in my limited understanding, is only a few millenia of age. So is this a fantasy park for them? Or am I typically misinformed?

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3. Comment #63367 by gordon on August 14, 2007 at 3:13 am

 avatarBAEOZ,

No you are correct. I know this as I have been there and felt the full weight of the arguement. Should be interesting.

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4. Comment #63368 by epeeist on August 14, 2007 at 3:14 am

 avatarGiven the apparent attitude of Islam towards evolution one wonders how this will fair in a country where the Wahhabi interpretation of Sunni Islam is the official religion and is strictly enforced.

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5. Comment #63372 by Rob A on August 14, 2007 at 3:22 am

I had the same thoughts about Islamic Creationism and this project. (Especially as the previous article I was reading was about a Bangladeshi worker who had a fatal heart attack when the Saudi religious police found him washing a car when he should have been at prayer).

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6. Comment #63381 by _J_ on August 14, 2007 at 3:43 am

 avatar
BAEOZ: I thought Saudi Arabia was full of Wahabists, who took a literal reading of the Quran.
gordon: you are correct.
epeeist: the Wahhabi interpretation of Sunni Islam is the official religion and is strictly enforced.

I suppose we shouldn't judge a book by its cover by reading too much into the architectural direction illustrated by the artist's impression...?

The central crescents at the heart of the structure [...] will tower 40 metres (130ft) above the desert and will be the largest Teflon construction in the world.

Regardless of the contents, this place's roof will provide the perfect conditions for a uniquely massive scientific trial of the 'you can fry an egg in the desert' conjecture. So, even if the gardens of evolution are overrun with Allah's woo-woo fairy all-stars, you'll at least be able to grab an impressive omelette.

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7. Comment #63389 by Fanusi Khiyal on August 14, 2007 at 4:12 am

Typically Saudi Arabia. The people live in the most apalling poverty. What does the rich beyond the dreams of avarice royal family spend money on? Schools? Hospitals? Investment into business? No, this sort of malarkery.

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8. Comment #63395 by gordon on August 14, 2007 at 4:29 am

 avatarFanusi,

Like I said, it's better than opening a new mosque and it may open a few minds as well. Good luck to them. Remember, the US has that bloody awful Creation Museum by Ken Ham and his accolites. Who is setting the best example?

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9. Comment #63406 by _J_ on August 14, 2007 at 4:56 am

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Who is setting the best example?

Well, America is, if it prioritises healthcare, education and business investment over enormous greenhouses shaped like Islamic emblems. Sure, it sounds as though the King Abdullah International Gardens is an immeasurably better thing than Ken Ham's bullshit museum. But to consider the matter only in so narrow a context seems to be to miss the big picture.

After all, Ham's museum of lies is funded out of his lying religious organisation's own coffers of lie-generated cash, isn't it? Who is funding these gardens?

Mind, I know bugger all about Saudi Arabia. My first thought on this article was 'That looks cool'.

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10. Comment #63429 by gordon on August 14, 2007 at 5:46 am

 avatarAmerica prioritises health care? In which state is that? Seems to me that capitalism is the state religion in both these countries, or at least one of the religions. There are poor in Saudi despite its wealth but the poor exist in droves in the US too. Let the desert bloom with gardens instead of mosques!

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11. Comment #63432 by USA_Limey on August 14, 2007 at 5:54 am

 avatarIf it turns out anything like the Eden project then I am for it regardless of any wider issues.

I remember my first trip to Eden, standing at one edge of the largest dome structure, looking up and over to the impressive waterfall feature on the other side and thinking, "wow".

If you get a chance to go, go. It is truly awesome.

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12. Comment #63434 by phasmagigas on August 14, 2007 at 6:05 am

 avatarwill ken ham protest outside at its opening for promoting terrible lies?? besides, it has to be a good thing, anything learned from its development is a positive as is anything learned from being in there looking at the plants.

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13. Comment #63467 by Jiten on August 14, 2007 at 12:32 pm

 avatarThis sort of thing a malarkey? How small minded! It's a step in the right direction.It'll present evidence to its visitors that life has a long history,no doubt a surprising fact to those who are indoctrinated by religious texts.And remember this'll be built in a country in the grip of Wahabism.

This should be seen a first step in the fall of Wahabism-a long term view.

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14. Comment #63488 by Corylus on August 14, 2007 at 1:29 pm

 avatarI am such a nerd, and apologies for being slightly off thread here, but who else is thinking of Herbert's "Dune" novels?

All that picture needs is a sandworm...

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15. Comment #63519 by _J_ on August 14, 2007 at 4:25 pm

 avatargordon

America prioritises health care? In which state is that? Seems to me that capitalism is the state religion in both these countries, or at least one of the religions.

Oh yeah - good point, actually.

I'll stop worrying and go back to thinking how cool it is.

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16. Comment #63535 by OkiMike on August 14, 2007 at 6:00 pm

I wonder when they'll open it to the public. I'll be in line!

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17. Comment #63552 by ? on August 14, 2007 at 7:15 pm

 avatarCorylus--
:) Yea, looking at that first picture, I feel like I'm in a 'thropter' surveying the spice mining operations. I haven't read many of the Dune books, but the original is great.

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18. Comment #63569 by Damien White on August 14, 2007 at 10:05 pm

I note that they have to use British architects and scientists. Why? Because they have none of their own. Of the billions (maybe even trillions) of dollars that have poured into the region for oil over the last 100 years, none has been spent on education. These theocratically-backed feudal kingdoms don't want to educate their subjects, lest their subjects realise that there are some nice concepts like freedom and democracy that they're missing out on.

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19. Comment #63577 by scottishgeologist on August 15, 2007 at 12:29 am

 avatarPhasmagigas:

will ken ham protest outside at its opening for promoting terrible lies?? besides, it has to be a good thing, anything learned from its development is a positive as is anything learned from being in there looking at the plants.


To my horror, I notice that the lovely Ken Ham is doing a "Scottish Tour". My first reaction wa, f*ck, not that jerk. (We had another Australian YEC jerk last year doing a tour - John Mackay)

http://www.answersingenesis.org/events/details.aspx?Event_ID=5640

What is interesting is the choice of venues - Note the Glasgow one: Dowanvale Free Church of Scotland. So does the Free Church of Scotland endorse YEC? If so, perhaps David Robertson could enlighten us.

After all, he wrote in one of his articles: "However I have to confess that I have really struggled with the likes of Morris and Whitcomb (The Genesis Flood) and am totally turned off by the abrasive, aggressive and self promoting Ken Ham."

And it would appear, that another of the churches in the Free Church also endorses AIG's position. I quote from the newsletter of Smithton Culloden free church in Inverness:

"In my view this is about the best "Creation" site on the web. Originating in Australia in the 1980s,largely as a result of the pioneering work of Ken Ham and Karl Wieland, it is now operating inmany countries across the world and exerting a powerful influence on the on-going debatebetween Creationists and Evolutionists.Their particular focus is on "providing answers to questions surrounding the Book of Genesis, asit is the most attacked book in the Bible." You will find here answers to the top 10 questions onthe creation issue as well as articles on such diverse topics as Genetics, Astronomy, Morality and Ethics, Noah's Ark, Death and Suffering and many others."

I wonder if the Pastor of Smithton agrees with this ringing endorsement? After all he is a bosom buddy of David Robertson...

I would have thought that YEC is like spiritual suicide for any church trying to engage with todays culture.

Or are the churches in this country really struggling with it? I suspect it doesnt get a lot of mention among the daffodil teas, coffee mornings and "church ceilidhs"...

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