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Just to stay within the letter "B", I have actually had that experience in Belfast, Beirut, Bombay, Belgrade, Bethlehem and Baghdad. In each case I can say absolutely, and can give my reasons, why I would feel immediately threatened if I thought that the group of men approaching me in the dusk were coming from a religious observance.
. . . . the literal mind does not understand the ironic mind, and sees it always as a source of danger. Moreover, Rushdie had been brought up as a Muslim and had an understanding of the Koran, which meant in effect that he was an apostate. And "apostasy", according to the Koran, is punishable by death. There is no right to change
religion . . . .
. . . to change my address and my telephone number, which seemed an unlikely way of avoiding reprisal. However, it did put me on notice of what I already knew. It is not possible for me to say, Well, you pursue your Shiite dream of a hidden imam and I pursue my study of Thomas Paine and George Orwell, and the world is big enough for both of us. The true believer cannot rest until the whole world bows the knee. Is it not obvious to all, say the pious, that religious authority is paramount, and that those who decline to recognize it have forfeited their right to exist.
Islamic mobs were violating diplomatic immunity and issuing death threats against civilians, yet the response from His Holiness the Pope and the Archbishop of Canterbury was to condemn – the cartoons! In my own profession, there was a rush to see who could capitulate the fastest, by reporting on the disputed images without actually showing them. And this at a time when the mass media has become almost exclusively picture-driven. Euphemistic noises were made about the need to show "respect'" but I know quite a number of the editors concerned and can say for a certainty that the chief motive for "restraint" was simple fear. In other words, a handful of religious bullies and bigmouths could, so to speak, outvote the tradition of free expression in its Western heartland.
One might have thought that such arrogant state-sponsored homicide . . . would have called forth a general condemnation. But such was not the case. In considered statements, the Vatican, the Archbishop of Canterbury, and the chief sephardic rabbi of Israel all took a stand in sympathy with – the ayatollah. So did the cardinal archbishop of New York and other lesser religious figures. While they usually managed a few words in which to deplore the resort to violence, all these men stated that the main problem raised by the publication of The Satanic Verses was not murder by mercenaries but blasphemy.
from Afghanistan the holy order was given to annex two famous achievements of modernism – the high-rise building and the jet aircraft – and use them for immolation and human sacrifice. The succeeding stage, very plainly announced in hysterical sermons, was to be the moment when apocalyptic nihilists coincided with Armageddon weaponry. Faith-based fanatics could not design anything as useful or beautiful as a skyscraper or a passenger aircraft. But, continuing their long history of plagiarism, they could borrow and steal these things and use them as a negation.
For hundreds of years, millions of Russians had been told the head of state should be a man close to God, the Czar, who was head of the Russian Orthodox Church as well as absolute despot. If you're Stalin, you shouldn't be in the dictatorship business if you can't exploit the pool of servility and docility that's ready-made for you. The task of atheists is to raise people above that level of servility and credulity.
He is also occasionally guilty of crassness. For example: "In the very recent past we have seen the Church of Rome befouled by its complicity in the unpardonable sin of child rape, or as it might be phrased in Latin form, no child's behind left." Hitchens squanders a lot of trust with that vulgar lapse: readers suddenly catch sight of him chortling at his desk and it's not pretty, or funny, and it impugns his seriousness elsewhere.
To read this oddly innocent book as gospel is to believe that ordinary Catholics are proud of the Inquisition . . . and that ordinary Jews cheer when a renegade Orthodox rebbe sucks the blood off a freshly circumcised penis.
2. Comment #68141 by Matt7895 on September 6, 2007 at 8:40 am
A good review, and I especially like what you said right at the end about not reviewing his politics. I don't share many of Hitchens' political views but as an atheist and reasonable thinker I do share his critique of religion. 3. Comment #68143 by oxytocin on September 6, 2007 at 8:43 am
4. Comment #68146 by CJ22 on September 6, 2007 at 8:51 am
5. Comment #68147 by simonchase on September 6, 2007 at 8:51 am
6. Comment #68148 by Spiral on September 6, 2007 at 8:53 am
7. Comment #68149 by detox on September 6, 2007 at 8:54 am
8. Comment #68151 by Friend Giskard on September 6, 2007 at 8:55 am
9. Comment #68160 by howtoplayalone on September 6, 2007 at 9:11 am
A good review, and I especially like what you said right at the end about not reviewing his politics. I don't share many of Hitchens' political views but as an atheist and reasonable thinker I do share his critique of religion.
10. Comment #68166 by Linda on September 6, 2007 at 9:22 am
Reading God is not great, how Religion Poisons Everything made me laugh and cry. The most disturbing bit for me is the description of the Orthodox Jewish circumcision ritual. Who knew that moels suck on baby boys' penises? That should get them a pedophile indictment at least and one for physical assault on defenseless victims.11. Comment #68172 by themanchoo on September 6, 2007 at 9:36 am
Oh, flippin' eck, has anyone read the comments at the bottom of the original article? Here's an example:12. Comment #68177 by Fire1974 on September 6, 2007 at 9:44 am
13. Comment #68179 by robotaholic on September 6, 2007 at 9:49 am
You are right Professor Dawkins. I really loved CH's book. He is a wonderful writer- and so are you sir. I love your books as well as your public speaking, you are a great reviewer and wonderful critical thinker. You both are simply amazing.14. Comment #68187 by joshuaslocum on September 6, 2007 at 10:10 am
To Prof. Dawkins (and others from the UK):15. Comment #68191 by waxwings on September 6, 2007 at 10:19 am
16. Comment #68193 by Friend Giskard on September 6, 2007 at 10:21 am
or as it might be phrased in Latin form, no child's behind left
17. Comment #68194 by Nefrubyr on September 6, 2007 at 10:22 am
18. Comment #68196 by ksskidude on September 6, 2007 at 10:26 am
19. Comment #68202 by tieInterceptor on September 6, 2007 at 10:35 am
There is a tie breaker: The Book of Mormon. Maligned in this essay, it actually is complex, profound, and, most importantly... literally true.
Dawkins (and Hitchens) incorrectly state that only Smith saw the plates. At least a dozen others gave sober accounts of the plates, and most of those statements are published in the book itself. They had no ulterior motive, and much incentive not to lie. Even after some of them fell out with Smith, they refused offers by critics to "expose" him. Why?
The concern with the plates is for a tangible artifact that demonstrates God's reality, but we do have that: The Book of Mormon text itself, and the mountain of evidence for its veracity.
For a full, intelligent survey of the facts, see www.MormonEvidence.com.
Jamie Huston, North Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
20. Comment #68205 by Bonzai on September 6, 2007 at 10:55 am
"Bible Belter" sounds like someone who whips the bible with a belt.:)21. Comment #68209 by Linda on September 6, 2007 at 11:09 am
Joseph Smith was a circus huckster from upstate New York. That region produced a lot of religious fanatics too. He came up with a clever scam that illustrates how easy it is to fool lots of people.22. Comment #68213 by Ophelia Benson on September 6, 2007 at 11:20 am
I once had a televised encounter with a leading "moderate" Muslim, of the kind who gets a knighthood or a peerage for not being an "extremist". I publicly challenged this "moderate" to deny that the Muslim penalty for apostasy was death. Unable to do so (the Koran is word-for-word inerrant), he wriggled and twisted, and finally claimed that it was an "unimportant detail", because never enforced. Tell that to Salman Rushdie, of whom the knighted "moderate" had earlier said, "Death is perhaps too easy for him"23. Comment #68214 by Robert Maynard on September 6, 2007 at 11:21 am
Giskard: Actually, in Latin that would be:I had assumed he was referring to Latin grammar. Didn't it have a thing about putting the subject first and the action or description or what have you second? Something like that? I don't know much about latin.. :|
Nullius pueri anus praetermissus
24. Comment #68215 by zoltix on September 6, 2007 at 11:29 am
Friend Giskard said that25. Comment #68216 by mikehicks55 on September 6, 2007 at 11:32 am
Interesting that Dawkins & Hitchens hadn't met before....a great meeting of minds that first meeting must have been...26. Comment #68219 by Quine on September 6, 2007 at 11:57 am
But Hitchens is surely right to despise leaders of other religions who, while under no threat, go out of their way to volunteer a gratuitous "respect" and "sympathy" for those who incite murder in the name of God.
But Hitchens is surely right to despise leaders of other religions who, while under no threat, go out of their way to volunteer a gratuitous "respect" and "sympathy" for those who incite murder in the name of someone's deity.
27. Comment #68221 by decius on September 6, 2007 at 12:04 pm
28. Comment #68222 by Philip1978 on September 6, 2007 at 12:16 pm
29. Comment #68227 by Northern Bright on September 6, 2007 at 12:30 pm
I encourage all to drop the capital "G" diety so your readers will get the real message.
30. Comment #68235 by Quine on September 6, 2007 at 12:59 pm
31. Comment #68236 by D'Arcy on September 6, 2007 at 1:04 pm
One of Hitchens's central themes is that gods are made by man, rather than the other way around
32. Comment #68237 by Northern Bright on September 6, 2007 at 1:11 pm
33. Comment #68242 by Richard Morgan on September 6, 2007 at 1:36 pm
Northern Bright :At his best, there's no doubt that Christopher Hitchens is formidably good - but at his worst, he comes across (to me, at least) as a bit of a brat.Yes. I agree.
34. Comment #68245 by scooternyc on September 6, 2007 at 1:58 pm
35. Comment #68246 by Friend Giskard on September 6, 2007 at 2:04 pm
I had assumed he was referring to Latin grammar.
36. Comment #68257 by Northern Bright on September 6, 2007 at 2:27 pm
37. Comment #68258 by prettygoodformonkeys on September 6, 2007 at 2:30 pm
38. Comment #68261 by Northern Bright on September 6, 2007 at 2:38 pm
The combination of CH's reason and humour is devastating
no one has to be perfect, surely.
39. Comment #68262 by Riley on September 6, 2007 at 2:42 pm
40. Comment #68264 by pewkatchoo on September 6, 2007 at 2:54 pm
41. Comment #68267 by keith on September 6, 2007 at 3:07 pm
42. Comment #68280 by Linda on September 6, 2007 at 3:39 pm
keith - humour us a bit here and please provide proof of gods, the supernatural and or the after life. BBC is holding the World Service for your momentous announcement which must be supported by documentary evidence. A warm fuzzy feeling in the head or an hallucination doesn't count as those events are simply manifestations of brain activity producing illusions. You must be new here. Most of your questions are answered somewhere on this magnificent & informative website so take a look around.43. Comment #68284 by joshuaslocum on September 6, 2007 at 3:49 pm
EDIT: Please ignore this post. . . I was obviously too dumb to notice Keith was making a joke:(44. Comment #68285 by Donald on September 6, 2007 at 3:52 pm
Comment #68151 (~8) by Friend Giskard:Richard and Hitch have made a slight blunder. If I'm not mistaken, the injunction to kill apostates does not appear in the Koran but in the hadith.
45. Comment #68296 by Richard Morgan on September 6, 2007 at 4:41 pm
Northern Bright :But truth + an ability to win people over is even more powerful than truth alone.Strangely enough, LIES + an ability to win people over is just as powerful and effective. I should know! I was a Mormon missionary for two years (1972-1974) and my sales figures, oops, sorry, conversion figures were pretty impressive.
46. Comment #68308 by Friend Giskard on September 6, 2007 at 7:06 pm
47. Comment #68309 by joshuaslocum on September 6, 2007 at 7:15 pm
Friend: Thanks for pointing out I'm humor-impaired today! D'oh!48. Comment #68313 by Friend Giskard on September 6, 2007 at 7:25 pm
49. Comment #68314 by Quine on September 6, 2007 at 7:29 pm
50. Comment #68321 by Dean Peterson on September 6, 2007 at 8:07 pm
Surely Hitchens' comment "no child's behind left" is NO WHERE near as offensive as the actual and innumerous priestly acts he is directing his venom towards. Framed this way, his comments are mild in the extreme; something much sharper would be entirely in order here! I've yet to read the sort of appropriate outrage commensurate with these crimes against children - at best, it's been belated inadequate apologies and excuses, followed by rather petty remunerations. If this had occurred just ONCE in ANY other public institution, we would have found it shuttered immediately, and prosecuted from the TOP down. "No child's behind left" is hardly scratching the surface, but it's a damned good start.This article is reposted from a website that accepts comments.
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1. Comment #68133 by Jack Rawlinson on September 6, 2007 at 8:13 am
That made me laugh out loud! I just finished "God Is Not Great" myself, and while I had a few minor quibbles with the structure and weighting of some of Hitchens' arguments I thoroughly enjoyed it, and this is a fair review.
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