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Griffin's 'offensive' Emmy speech to be censored
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UPDATE 9-18-07: Kathy on Larry King Live
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cbziBwi489Q
Reposted from:
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22404898-23109,00.html
US Comic Kathy Griffin's "offensive" remarks about Jesus at the Creative Arts Emmy Awards would be cut from a pre-taped telecast of the show, the US Academy of Television Arts and Sciences said today.
Griffin made the provocative comment on Saturday night as she took the stage of the Shrine Auditorium to collect her Emmy for best reality program for her Bravo channel show My Life on the D-List.
"A lot of people come up here and thank Jesus for this award. I want you to know that no one had less to do with this award than Jesus," an exultant Griffin said, holding up her statuette. "Suck it, Jesus. This award is my god now."
Asked about her speech backstage a short time later, an unrepentant Griffin said: "I hope I offended some people. I didn't want to win the Emmy for nothing."
The speech drew fire from a leading Roman Catholic group, the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, which condemned Griffin's remarks as "obscene and blasphemous".
"It is a sure bet that if Griffin had said, 'Suck it, Mohammed', there would have been a very different reaction," Catholic league president Bill Donohue said in a statement posted on the group's website.
He called on TV academy president Dick Askin to denounce Griffin's "hate speech" and on Griffin to apologise.
An edited version of the Creative Arts Emmys is set to air on US cable television's E! Entertainment Network on Saturday, the night before the live Fox network broadcast of the main Primetime Emmy Awards.
"Kathy Griffin's offensive remarks will not be part of the E! telecast," an academy spokeswoman said today. An "abbreviated version" of her acceptance speech will air, instead, she said.
Griffin's reaction to the imbroglio, according to a statement issued by her publicist: "Am I the only Catholic left with a sense of humour?"
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(Can you spot the difference between the news.com.au and AP versions of this story?)
Reposted from:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/11/tv.emmys.griffin.ap/index.html
Story Highlights
- Kathy Griffin won Emmy at Creative Arts portion
- In speech, joked, "no one had less to do with this award than Jesus"
- Catholic League protests; portions of speech to be censored
LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Before Kathy Griffin won a creative arts Emmy last weekend for her reality show, "My Life on the D-List," she joked that an award would move her to the C-list.
She was right: "C" as in censored. The TV academy said her raucous acceptance speech will be edited when the event, which was taped, is shown Saturday on the E! channel. The main prime-time Emmy Awards air the next night on Fox.
"Kathy Griffin's offensive remarks will not be part of the E! telecast on Saturday night," the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences said in a statement Monday.
In her speech, Griffin said that "a lot of people come up here and thank Jesus for this award. I want you to know that no one had less to do with this award than Jesus."
She went on to hold up her Emmy, make an off-color remark about Christ and proclaim, "This award is my god now!"
The comedian's remarks were condemned Monday by Catholic League President Bill Donohue, who called them a "vulgar, in-your-face brand of hate speech."
According to the TV academy and E!, when the four hour-plus ceremony is edited into a two-hour program, Griffin's remarks will be shown in "an abbreviated version" in which some language may be bleeped.
The program was in production and unfinished, an E! spokeswoman said Monday.
Requests for comment were left Monday evening by phone and e-mail with Griffin's publicist. They were not immediately returned.
The Catholic League, an anti-defamation group, called on the TV academy to "denounce Griffin's obscene and blasphemous comment" at Sunday's ceremony.
The academy said Monday it had no plans to address the issue in the prime-time broadcast.
The organization may have another delicate issue to consider, this one involving an off-color fake music video that aired last December on "Saturday Night Live" and won a creative arts Emmy for best song.
Andy Samberg of "SNL" said Saturday that he had yet to be asked by the TV academy to perform the tune with Timberlake on the Fox broadcast, but he was willing. Timberlake, on a concert tour, is scheduled to be in Los Angeles next weekend.
The subject of their "(Blank) in a Box" video: wrapping a certain part of the male anatomy and presenting it to a loved one as a holiday present.
The academy has said that "show elements are in the process of being worked out."
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cbziBwi489Q
Reposted from:
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22404898-23109,00.html
US Comic Kathy Griffin's "offensive" remarks about Jesus at the Creative Arts Emmy Awards would be cut from a pre-taped telecast of the show, the US Academy of Television Arts and Sciences said today.Griffin made the provocative comment on Saturday night as she took the stage of the Shrine Auditorium to collect her Emmy for best reality program for her Bravo channel show My Life on the D-List.
"A lot of people come up here and thank Jesus for this award. I want you to know that no one had less to do with this award than Jesus," an exultant Griffin said, holding up her statuette. "Suck it, Jesus. This award is my god now."
Asked about her speech backstage a short time later, an unrepentant Griffin said: "I hope I offended some people. I didn't want to win the Emmy for nothing."
The speech drew fire from a leading Roman Catholic group, the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, which condemned Griffin's remarks as "obscene and blasphemous".
"It is a sure bet that if Griffin had said, 'Suck it, Mohammed', there would have been a very different reaction," Catholic league president Bill Donohue said in a statement posted on the group's website.
He called on TV academy president Dick Askin to denounce Griffin's "hate speech" and on Griffin to apologise.
An edited version of the Creative Arts Emmys is set to air on US cable television's E! Entertainment Network on Saturday, the night before the live Fox network broadcast of the main Primetime Emmy Awards.
"Kathy Griffin's offensive remarks will not be part of the E! telecast," an academy spokeswoman said today. An "abbreviated version" of her acceptance speech will air, instead, she said.
Griffin's reaction to the imbroglio, according to a statement issued by her publicist: "Am I the only Catholic left with a sense of humour?"
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(Can you spot the difference between the news.com.au and AP versions of this story?)
Reposted from:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/11/tv.emmys.griffin.ap/index.html
Story Highlights
- Kathy Griffin won Emmy at Creative Arts portion
- In speech, joked, "no one had less to do with this award than Jesus"
- Catholic League protests; portions of speech to be censored
LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Before Kathy Griffin won a creative arts Emmy last weekend for her reality show, "My Life on the D-List," she joked that an award would move her to the C-list.
She was right: "C" as in censored. The TV academy said her raucous acceptance speech will be edited when the event, which was taped, is shown Saturday on the E! channel. The main prime-time Emmy Awards air the next night on Fox.
"Kathy Griffin's offensive remarks will not be part of the E! telecast on Saturday night," the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences said in a statement Monday.
In her speech, Griffin said that "a lot of people come up here and thank Jesus for this award. I want you to know that no one had less to do with this award than Jesus."
She went on to hold up her Emmy, make an off-color remark about Christ and proclaim, "This award is my god now!"
The comedian's remarks were condemned Monday by Catholic League President Bill Donohue, who called them a "vulgar, in-your-face brand of hate speech."
According to the TV academy and E!, when the four hour-plus ceremony is edited into a two-hour program, Griffin's remarks will be shown in "an abbreviated version" in which some language may be bleeped.
The program was in production and unfinished, an E! spokeswoman said Monday.
Requests for comment were left Monday evening by phone and e-mail with Griffin's publicist. They were not immediately returned.
The Catholic League, an anti-defamation group, called on the TV academy to "denounce Griffin's obscene and blasphemous comment" at Sunday's ceremony.
The academy said Monday it had no plans to address the issue in the prime-time broadcast.
The organization may have another delicate issue to consider, this one involving an off-color fake music video that aired last December on "Saturday Night Live" and won a creative arts Emmy for best song.
Andy Samberg of "SNL" said Saturday that he had yet to be asked by the TV academy to perform the tune with Timberlake on the Fox broadcast, but he was willing. Timberlake, on a concert tour, is scheduled to be in Los Angeles next weekend.
The subject of their "(Blank) in a Box" video: wrapping a certain part of the male anatomy and presenting it to a loved one as a holiday present.
The academy has said that "show elements are in the process of being worked out."
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Reload Comments | Back to Top | Page Numbers2. Comment #69531 by papavb on September 11, 2007 at 4:17 pm
She's a fervid atheist alright, and thank god for that speech. The charge for defamation doesn't hold up, she's not talking about believers, she talked about god and his son(aka himself) Jesus. Bill Donahue is a waste of carbon, he never has anything relevant to say, ever.Other Comments by papavb
3. Comment #69532 by ? on September 11, 2007 at 4:20 pm
Oh, give me a break! What a bunch of humorless idiots. If these complainers have ever watched an award show (and who hasn't) they have no excuse not to get this joke. Its not even ABOUT Jesus, its about the annoying cliche in America of piously thanking Jesus or God for every award as if it were a medal from the Pope even if the thing you're getting the award for is something that no religion would actually approve of! Whatever her personal views on religion are, it would be funny on these grounds alone.
Seems like the Catholic League is grasping at straws for something to complain about.
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4. Comment #69535 by ClemIsMe on September 11, 2007 at 4:24 pm
If E! claims any kind of testicular or ovarian weight they will cut the rest of the program and simply air her comments, then beam it directly into Donohue's private plane. That guy's a simple punk and should be getting no face time anywhere. I am no fan of the holy right regardless, but he's just a petty thug.Other Comments by ClemIsMe
5. Comment #69537 by Dax on September 11, 2007 at 4:25 pm
Bill Donohue has a condition called Perpetual Pissed Syndrome... he thinks everyone and everything is always out to get the Catholics. Man, saw him with the Hitch on TV and I swear Donohue thought that God Is Not Great only targets Catholicism.No wonder that South Park showed him shooting the Pope and taking over the Papal seat (including locking up Jesus himself).
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6. Comment #69538 by nancy2001 on September 11, 2007 at 4:35 pm
It's terrific Kathy Griffin is so open about her atheism. She should be invited to appear an atheist conference, and her performance should be recorded and shown on her reality show.Other Comments by nancy2001
7. Comment #69540 by TrashcanMan79 on September 11, 2007 at 4:38 pm
The comedian's remarks were condemned Monday by Catholic League President Bill Donohue, who called them a "vulgar, in-your-face brand of hate speech."
Hate speech?
I'm in shock. I'm totally speechless...
...out of fear that anything I might say will be considered "hateful".
Good god!
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8. Comment #69541 by TylerJames on September 11, 2007 at 4:40 pm
ZOMG!!! Get out the red card of censorship and make sure that this clip never sees the light of day! Take away our freedoms, load everyone up with Prozac, do anything but offend the delicate sensibilities of the American viewer!Seriously, I lost all hope in television after the infamous "wardrobe malfunction" at the Superbowl a few years back. Somehow almost everyone got duped into actually thinking that it was a big deal. Public outcry, solemn apologies, an mass censorship ensued. Absolutely ridiculous.
I really wish someone would go up there an thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster for their award, that guy just doesn't get enough credit. Then again, he's not as jealous as childish as Yahweh and Jesus, so I'm sure he's okay with it.
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9. Comment #69543 by Dr Benway on September 11, 2007 at 4:41 pm
Jesus Chavez is the ex-boyfriend who left her for another woman. Other Comments by Dr Benway
10. Comment #69545 by humperdinck on September 11, 2007 at 4:52 pm
I am disappointed but entirely unsurprised that the AP article refused to state what the "off-color remark about Christ" was.It was "Suck it, Jesus!" (I am not making this up.)
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11. Comment #69546 by Barbara on September 11, 2007 at 4:54 pm
In her speech, Griffin said that "a lot of people come up here and thank Jesus for this award. I want you to know that no one had less to do with this award than Jesus."
She went on to hold up her Emmy, make an off-color remark about Christ and proclaim, "This award is my god now!"
Kathy Griffin has never struck me as very funny. I do wish I could have been there for this though. Go Kathy!
The comedian's remarks were condemned Monday by Catholic League President Bill Donohue, who called them a "vulgar, in-your-face brand of hate speech."
Not unless you're Jesus/God! If Jesus/God is offended then it's up to him/her/it/they to come forward and say so.
The Catholic League, an anti-defamation group, called on the TV academy to "denounce Griffin's obscene and blasphemous comment" at Sunday's ceremony.
Griffin's comment was not obscene and it's not the place of the TV academy to determine what is blasphemous. Freedom of speech, anyone?
PS: After reading skip's post (#14 below) I sent my own note of encouragement to Kathy Griffin via her agent Tim Curtis.
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12. Comment #69547 by BMMcArdle on September 11, 2007 at 4:55 pm
I like it when a boxer thanks Jesus for being able to beat the shit out of the other guy.Other Comments by BMMcArdle
13. Comment #69548 by Shuggy on September 11, 2007 at 4:56 pm
Do they really think the Creator of the Universe aka His Own Son has input into Emmy-winning performances? Other Comments by Shuggy
14. Comment #69549 by skip on September 11, 2007 at 5:01 pm
I just sent an encouraging note to Kathy Griffin at this e-mail!tc@wma.com
I got the e-mail directly from the catholic league. at this address
http://www.catholicleague.org/release.php?id=1327
I copied them on my note to Kathy... Perhaps we should all send them a note too!
skip
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15. Comment #69551 by TylerJames on September 11, 2007 at 5:15 pm
I can't find an actual email address for this league of extraordinary gentlemen. They conveniently don't provide one in the "Contact Us" section of the website. What happens when freedom of religious expression and freedom of speech collide?
Well I'll tell you right n-------THE POWERS THAT BE HAVE DECIDED THAT REGARDLESS OF YOUR AGE YOU MOST CERTAINLY ARE NOT MATURE ENOUGH TO READ THE REST OF THIS COMMENT AND AS SUCH IT HAS BEEN REMOVED. PLEASE CARRY ON WITH THE REST OF YOUR LIFE (AS LONG AS YOUR LIFE IS IN PERFECT AGREEMENT WITH WHAT WE HAVE DECIDED IS ACCEPTABLE)------------
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16. Comment #69553 by Crazymalc on September 11, 2007 at 5:18 pm
You go girl! Other Comments by Crazymalc
17. Comment #69555 by Crazymalc on September 11, 2007 at 5:27 pm
Oh, and those you fear free speech are quick to label speech they don't agree with as "Hate Speech"c.f with Leviticus 20:13
"If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads."
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18. Comment #69556 by Russell Blackford on September 11, 2007 at 5:28 pm
I sent a supportive note to Griffin's agent. Fact is, she said what many of us think - celebrities who sanctimoniously thank Jesus or God for their awards look like idiots. As if Jesus and God, even if they existed, would be favouring one bunch of celebs over another.Other Comments by Russell Blackford
19. Comment #69557 by bluebird on September 11, 2007 at 5:35 pm
'Tis 1934 revisited; Will Hayes & Joe Breen succumbed to pressure from the Catholic League of Decency to "clean up" Hollywood movies.Salt in the wound is Bill Donohue leading the current charge.
skip, thanks for that link.
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20. Comment #69561 by Russell Blackford on September 11, 2007 at 5:48 pm
What is frightening is that Donohue and his lot apparently consider any satire directed at religious sentiment to be "hate speech" that should be suppressed. This is not a moderate position, folks. I draw two lessons:1. This is further evidence that the Catholic Church is not a moderate institution. That isn't news to me, but I am continually dumbfounded when I see atheists and secularists talking about the Catholic Church as if it counted among the "moderates". (I have some further discussion here: http://metamagician3000.blogspot.com/2007/09/therapeutic-cloning-debate-moves-to.html.)
2. Beware of ever supporting religious vilification legislation. If it existed in the US now, there'd be people wanting to apply it to Kathy Griffin. If the litigation failed, there'd be pressure to give the legislation more "teeth". Where I live, the government has made a big mistake in enacting such legislation. So far, there is hope that it will operate fairly sensibly ... though only at enormous expense to anyone who is hauled before the tribunal ... but once such legislation is in place it makes free speech a hostage to fortune. I suggest that everyone in a jurisdiction without such legislation continue to resist it and that everyone in a jurisdiction where it exists monitor the situation with concern. Even restricted legislation is the thin end of a thick wedge.
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21. Comment #69562 by phasmagigas on September 11, 2007 at 5:50 pm
so Bill Donahue doesnt like what she said, and this is the same man who said to hitchens 'when the irish (yeah right)man is speaking the englishman must listen'. Of couse griffin ist going to mention mohammed (as BD dared her to)as people dont mention mohammed for emmies to often so in the same token i wonder if BD says 'when the irishman is talking the mexican man must listen'. Oh and then maybe he'd like her to step outside too (as he asked with hitch). one for the village stocks. Other Comments by phasmagigas
22. Comment #69565 by Inferno on September 11, 2007 at 6:07 pm
Hmm, can anyone else see this on a new atheist t-shirt?"I'm an atheist.... Suck it, Jesus!"
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23. Comment #69567 by Yorker on September 11, 2007 at 6:23 pm
How wrong can one be? I thought that love at first hearing was a myth, but no! A woman after my own heart; no question about it, I'm in love!Kathy my darling, I'll dream of you tonight! xxxxxxxx
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24. Comment #69569 by NormanDoering on September 11, 2007 at 6:25 pm
Russell Blackford wrote:I sent a supportive note to Griffin's agent.
Her agent? All I could find is her website and her blog.
And I too sent a note and posted a bit on my blog:
http://normdoering.blogspot.com/2007/09/kathy-griffin-we-love-ya.html
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25. Comment #69570 by Arcturus on September 11, 2007 at 6:26 pm
I guess if she would have said: "Suck it Jahwe, Jesus, Mohammed, Zeus, Jupiter, Bacchus, Thor, Vishnu, Budha, Spaghetti Monster, Pink Unicorn, etc." it would have been fine with Phil.Her comment was spot on though, because I never heard anyone thanking Mohammed at those events. They usually thank Jesus because American is mostly christian. I never hear anydoby thank Jesus when something bad happens. He's supposed to be omnipotent.
This brings me to a conundrum I had. There is the ontological argument (God is perfect in his existence). But if 2 perfect gods exist then that is more perefect than one existing, even more the perfection is the existence of an infinite number of perfect gods.
I guess the monotheists have got it all wrong :)
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26. Comment #69571 by flyingscot on September 11, 2007 at 6:28 pm
I thought blasphemy was a victimless crime!! Other Comments by flyingscot
27. Comment #69573 by Chayanov on September 11, 2007 at 6:31 pm
Kathy Griffin more powerful than God and Jesus combined. Holy Ghost offers no comment.Other Comments by Chayanov
28. Comment #69576 by Yorker on September 11, 2007 at 6:44 pm
The Catholic League's website accuses Kathy of causing offence to 85% of the American people.I used their feedback page to highlight the stupidity of that remark. I suggest everyone here does the same, they won't post the responses of course, but at least they'll know what we think of them and their dumb-ass president.
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29. Comment #69577 by Yorker on September 11, 2007 at 6:47 pm
24. Comment #69569 by NormanDoering Try some old-fashioned RBP Norman.
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30. Comment #69578 by k1mgy on September 11, 2007 at 6:48 pm
Plastic Jesus. Emmy.Plastic Jesus... Emmy.
Hmmm. Tough choice.
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31. Comment #69579 by Canuck#1 on September 11, 2007 at 6:52 pm
Strong medicine Kathy... but sometimes it is the only way to relieve constipation of the mind...I think the reaction indicates that the patient is indeed a very sick man....one can only hope some additional doses might save him from his terminal stupidity...I am proud of you Kathy.Other Comments by Canuck#1
32. Comment #69580 by Russell Blackford on September 11, 2007 at 6:56 pm
Norman Doering, contact Griffin's agent, Tim Curtis, at the William Morris Agency: tc@wma.com.Other Comments by Russell Blackford
33. Comment #69582 by TheCelestialTeapot on September 11, 2007 at 7:11 pm
I have mixed feelings about this. I didn't actually hear Kathy's speech so without inflection and tone and all I can't comment on what it was she really said. Going by the article it seemed as though it was a joke and certainly not hate speech so Donahue can go chasing after someone else. However, comments like "Kathy you're my hero" stated in her favor simply because she said something infantile and unintelligent. I don't know. I'm certainly not on board with the atheist school of thought that says we should just blindly support anyone who says anything negative about religion. Jokes have their place, but I still like argument based on logic and evidence. I guess if you're in High School a phrase like "suck it Jesus" is pretty funny, worth about a million laughs, but I just thought the article and reading about her speech was just a waste of time and just plain stupid.Other Comments by TheCelestialTeapot
34. Comment #69585 by Robert Maynard on September 11, 2007 at 7:22 pm
Celestial Teapot..just a waste of time and just plain stupid.Your description nails Kathy Griffin, her insipid reality show, AND the Emmy's.
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35. Comment #69586 by TheCelestialTeapot on September 11, 2007 at 7:30 pm
Thanks Maynard,At least someone is in agreement with me.
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36. Comment #69587 by EvolvedDNA on September 11, 2007 at 7:32 pm
Hi Bill.. remind me again... who had the inquistion,which suppressed scientific enquiry and free thinking for centuries, and which religion has had problems with leaking sperms from priests? This is an affront to the human race and your complaints are insignificant in comparision.Other Comments by EvolvedDNA
37. Comment #69588 by Russell Blackford on September 11, 2007 at 7:39 pm
The point isn't whether or not anyone is a fan of Kathy Griffin. The point is whether or not satire of this kind - regardless of whether people find it funny/effective - can be suppressed because religionists find it offensive.I thought the comments were funny and very much to the point - she said what I, and I would guess many others, just think when we have to listen to all those sanctimonious celebs praising Jesus in acceptance speeches. But even if I disliked her and her message, I'd want to defend her.
I even defend Catch the Fire Ministries - a fundamentalist pentecostal outfit that was dragged before the tribunal here for supposed vilification of Muslims - though I have no reason to support the worldview of fundamentalist pentecostals.
We should be standing up for everyone's right to satirise religion and religionists, or to satirise the specific religion and religionists of their choice.
There's an important free speech issue here, and though I realise there are no actual religious vilification laws in place in the relevant jurisdiction, it's important to keep hammering the message that such speech as Kathy Griffin's is legitimate and must not come to be seen as unacceptable "hate speech".
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38. Comment #69589 by EvolvedDNA on September 11, 2007 at 7:53 pm
Comment #69586 by TheCelestialTeapotI agree with you as far as what Kathy said, but I think that what is important here is the reaction to it by the religious community. The full frontal attack claiming "hate speach" when something they dont want to hear comes along is unacceptable. We saw the Muslims try the same thing with the "Koran in the Toilet" a few weeks back.
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39. Comment #69590 by steveroot on September 11, 2007 at 7:53 pm
30. Comment #69578 by k1mgy on September 11, 2007 at 6:48 pm
Plastic Jesus. Emmy.
Plastic Jesus... Emmy.
Hmmm. Tough choice.
"You can buy him pink and pleasant
he comes on a phosphorescent
pedestal of abalone shell...
Goin' ninety I'm not wary
'cause I've got my virgin Mary
guaranteein' I won't go to hell."
Or- http://www.reverendcolin.com/PlasticJesus.html
Steve
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40. Comment #69591 by Yorker on September 11, 2007 at 7:57 pm
33. Comment #69582 by TheCelestialTeapot "Jokes have their place"
They certainly do, and there's not enough of them on this humouristically-challenged site!
You can't seriously expect all commments to be based on logic and evidence, in a case like this anything that ridicules religion and gets up the nose of the child-molesters is not a good thing, it's a fucking GREAT thing!
We need to win more converts, we need to be more likeable and human-like, a bit less cold and hyper-analytical. There is no logical arguing with religites, they are immune to logic and don't understand or ignore evidence.
If a so-called great scientist like Francis Collins writes a book subtitled "A scientist presents the evidence for..." and fails to provide a single shred of evidence, that tells me all I need to know about the convoluted god-befuddled mind of the species "Homo Religioso".
Let's keep the logic and evidence for the real worthwhile things in life.
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41. Comment #69593 by PeterK on September 11, 2007 at 8:04 pm
Good stuff, I admire her courage:"A lot of people come up here and thank Jesus for this award. I want you to know that no one had less to do with this award than Jesus"
Going too far, unecessary, childish and moronic:
"Suck it, Jesus. This award is my god now."
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42. Comment #69594 by Yorker on September 11, 2007 at 8:04 pm
20. Comment #69561 by Russell Blackford "This is further evidence that the Catholic Church is not a moderate institution"
Completely correct, as a glance at their website will confirm.
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43. Comment #69595 by Theocrapcy on September 11, 2007 at 8:07 pm
It's overdue that someone said the words "suck it, Jesus" in a public forum. You're on the A(theist) list now Kathy, bravo. Other Comments by Theocrapcy
44. Comment #69599 by magetoo on September 11, 2007 at 8:34 pm
You're on the A(theist) list now Kathy, bravo.
Somebody send her a scarlet A T-shirt, and a note saying just that.
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45. Comment #69604 by Robert Maynard on September 11, 2007 at 9:03 pm
there's not enough [jokes] on this humouristically-challenged site!I'm glad we have comedy gems like "suck it Jesus" to help fill that void.. such courage! Such piercing wit! Standing ovation!
I agree with Blackford that the only thing important about this is her right to blurt unfunny nonsense, and curbing the pathetic criticisms from Old Man Donahue and the Catholic League. The editing of the telecast isn't particularly shocking, and its false to cast the decision as religious bullying. It's business as usual, they can do what they want with their four hours of footage, consider demographics, yadda yadda yadda. It's E!, folks. They'd cut a legitimately profound acceptance speech if they could.
What is especially unimportant and unspectacular are the remarks following her (honest, progressive, non-joke) opening, and I hope the solution to this "clear-thinking oasis" being "humouristically challenged" is not to become a sycophantic crowd straight out of Oprah's studios whenever someone of minor celebrity makes a dismissive remark about a character/person not present, not even alive, but addressed as though they could hear it and be dismayed. (I hear she's also made some clever observations about how men and women are different)
I hope the solution (if there's even a problem) is more articles like that hilarious review of The Fascism Delusion.
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46. Comment #69606 by Jolly Wally on September 11, 2007 at 9:21 pm
Haha nice one! Yeah don't thank God for your own hard work!Other Comments by Jolly Wally
47. Comment #69607 by js5535 on September 11, 2007 at 9:23 pm
Wasn't the Catholic League a military alliance from the 30 Years War? Other Comments by js5535
48. Comment #69608 by JemyM on September 11, 2007 at 10:03 pm
I am starting to see Christians using "What if they attacked Mohammad?" as an excuse for censorship, capitalizing on the extreme and aggressive reactions of muslims.That's not good. Other Comments by JemyM
49. Comment #69609 by NormanDoering on September 11, 2007 at 10:36 pm
js5535 asked:Wasn't the Catholic League a military alliance from the 30 Years War?
Yes, it was:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_League_(German)
Certainly not to be confused with the Justice League where Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Batman and the Green Lantern used to hang out.
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50. Comment #69610 by xabstract on September 11, 2007 at 10:40 pm
Haha I made a site just for this instance.SuckItJesus.com
hope you like :-)
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1. Comment #69529 by Duff on September 11, 2007 at 4:13 pm
I wasn't familiar with Kathy Griffin before today, but as of today, she is my hero! Gang up on the "catholic league" and come to the rescue of Kathy!By the way, did the catholic league have a comment on the billion dollars the California Catholic Church (I capitalize that name for comic effect), paid out for the abuse of minors just in the state of California, or do they think that outrageous situation is just a normal scenario that every church/organization faces?
May I suggest that the catholic church has zero credibility in the morality scene!
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