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"If it were up to him, he said, the film would be called "From Darwin to Hitler.""3. Comment #74196 by Damien White on September 27, 2007 at 4:15 pm
He said he also believed the theory of evolution leads to racism and ultimately genocide, an idea common among creationist thinkers. If it were up to him, he said, the film would be called "From Darwin to Hitler."4. Comment #74204 by chauvinj on September 27, 2007 at 4:45 pm
"He said he also believed the theory of evolution leads to racism and ultimately genocide, an idea common among creationist thinkers."5. Comment #74207 by joekoz451 on September 27, 2007 at 4:55 pm
So, we're assuming that "truth" is a Christian (Creationist) value? It seems to me that deception is right in character ...6. Comment #74208 by JamesDB on September 27, 2007 at 5:11 pm
7. Comment #74209 by BMMcArdle on September 27, 2007 at 5:17 pm
The world's foremost biologists, geologists, and paleontologists are a bunch of incompetent nincompoops!8. Comment #74218 by Liveliest Crib on September 27, 2007 at 6:28 pm
For anyone interested, this story has been picked up by the progressive, U.S. blog, Crooks and Liars.9. Comment #74226 by riemann on September 27, 2007 at 8:23 pm
"I don't remember a single person asking me what the movie was about," he said in a telephone interview.
10. Comment #74251 by elfinabout on September 28, 2007 at 1:29 am
11. Comment #74252 by Rachel Holmes on September 28, 2007 at 1:30 am
Of course no-one aked him what the movie was about. "Rampart" had already lied to the interviewees by telling them it was about the intersection between science and religion. The article tells us that this is what Rampart's website said.12. Comment #74253 by Northern Bright on September 28, 2007 at 1:30 am
13. Comment #74259 by epeeist on September 28, 2007 at 1:56 am
And in today's Guardian - http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2179047,00.html
For anyone interested, this story has been picked up by the progressive, U.S. blog, Crooks and Liars.
14. Comment #74260 by sornord on September 28, 2007 at 2:02 am
Can the producers be sued? Seems an arguable case for fraud to me.15. Comment #74265 by epeeist on September 28, 2007 at 2:17 am
16. Comment #74266 by Northern Bright on September 28, 2007 at 2:21 am
I really like the loving nature of Christianity...
17. Comment #74271 by Canuck#1 on September 28, 2007 at 2:39 am
18. Comment #74279 by Roger Stanyard on September 28, 2007 at 3:21 am
We are just about to start digging around on another creationist trick, this time in the UK.19. Comment #74281 by Myryama on September 28, 2007 at 3:23 am
Is it a coincidence that Ben Stein's initials are shorthand for something else? Maybe God is having a little joke at his expense...20. Comment #74304 by Galactor on September 28, 2007 at 4:45 am
21. Comment #74307 by Galactor on September 28, 2007 at 4:54 am
22. Comment #74308 by epeeist on September 28, 2007 at 4:54 am
Your URL is wrong.
I've issued this request for help to DebunkCreation and was wondering whether anyone here might be able to help. There is a posting about it on the BCSE web site at www.bcse.org.uk :
23. Comment #74314 by bamboospitfire on September 28, 2007 at 5:27 am
24. Comment #74317 by Roger Stanyard on September 28, 2007 at 5:34 am
Sorry all.25. Comment #74320 by scottishgeologist on September 28, 2007 at 5:41 am
And this may sound rough, Judy, but we need to use every weapon in our arsenal that need be to defeat this enemy. And I don't think we should hold back. And we'll make a great mistake if we hold back our technology and hold back our weapons and put young men and women in there and sacrifice them because we're scared to use some of our major weapons. And I think we're going to have to use every -- and I hate to say it, hellish weapon in our inventory, if need be, to defeat these people.
and later on:
But let's use the weapons we have, the weapons of mass destruction if need be and destroy the enemy.
26. Comment #74337 by frikkenkids on September 28, 2007 at 7:21 am
I used to be a fan of Ben Stein. He's such a smart guy. I watched his quiz show all the time and he was always impressive - accept of course for his bewildering loyalty to Nixon.27. Comment #74338 by Philip1978 on September 28, 2007 at 7:27 am
28. Comment #74341 by Alter_GX on September 28, 2007 at 7:37 am
29. Comment #74359 by OsakaGuy on September 28, 2007 at 8:30 am
30. Comment #74366 by Matt7895 on September 28, 2007 at 8:59 am
Maybe there's a legal action Richard can pursue in regards to this shameful documentary?31. Comment #74371 by ericcolumba on September 28, 2007 at 9:59 am
32. Comment #74377 by Klaatu barada nikto on September 28, 2007 at 10:49 am
33. Comment #74385 by captain underpants on September 28, 2007 at 11:36 am
34. Comment #74396 by CHeard on September 28, 2007 at 2:21 pm
Myryama (19)Is it a coincidence that Ben Stein's initials are shorthand for something else? Maybe God is having a little joke at his expense...Heh. The same holds for my academic field, "biblical studies." And in the US Library of Congress cataloging system, the call number on all books about the Bible starts with "BS …" Which means I have shelves full of BS in my office.
Maybe there's a legal action Richard can pursue in regards to this shameful documentary?Probably not, as he almost certainly signed a release or waiver to allow his likeness and interview to be used in the film itself. I've had a similar experience myself, though I think not as egregious as what Richard, Eugenie, PZ etc. experienced (http://www.heardworld.com/higgaion/?p=744).
35. Comment #74397 by Ashley1319 on September 28, 2007 at 2:46 pm
I had been waiting to see what would happen with this 'movie' for some time. I am quite shocked to hear that Professor Dawkins and other scientists were swindled into appearing in the movie. Well, they can only make the movie better, in my opinion, Ben Stein and his sneak thief cohorts will need it.Why is there never a Nazi connection to Mendel?
36. Comment #74445 by dlitt on September 28, 2007 at 11:14 pm
Mr. Ruloff, a Canadian who lives in British Columbia,...
37. Comment #74478 by Apate on September 29, 2007 at 4:22 am
"He said he also believed the theory of evolution leads to racism and ultimately genocide, an idea common among creationist thinkers."38. Comment #74483 by Veronique on September 29, 2007 at 5:02 am
39. Comment #74492 by TinyRobot on September 29, 2007 at 6:20 am
Since the Darwin to Hitler nonsense has been raised by several people may i recommend the following article by the inimitable Hector Avalos, entitled 'Creationists for Genocide' and available here:40. Comment #75392 by slocks on October 2, 2007 at 1:55 pm
Roger - I have spent some time investigating Operation Christmas Child, delving deeply into their websites and reports to the faithful, writing to the organisers and a long discussion with my local organiser. I have also had success with persuading my daughter's school that this is an inappropriate "charity". I put together a website following researching into this - have a look at http://www.geocities.com/occcriticism/ and feel free to contact me (contact links there).41. Comment #75478 by Teratornis on October 2, 2007 at 7:06 pm
42. Comment #75481 by Goldy on October 2, 2007 at 7:13 pm
From Darwin to Hitler - poor Wallace must be spinning in his grave. I can hear his voice from here..."Oi, I helped! I also had the same idea! It wasn't only Darwin!"43. Comment #90316 by willbonds on November 24, 2007 at 9:15 am
Mr. Ruloff. Hmm. I was once told that PC was the state religion of Canada.44. Comment #116221 by Vermin on January 25, 2008 at 9:55 pm
Send a letter to the editor of the original media outlet.
letters@nytimes.com
1. Comment #74180 by 160261621c on September 27, 2007 at 2:53 pm
Thankfully I don't think this movie will appeal to the masses. And those that do watch it will be the type of people looking for the vast, vast number of flaws sure to riddle the film.I'll probably watch it for a good laugh.
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