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Video 'Flying Spaghetti Monster' Religious Group Turning Heads at MSU

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The national "Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster" has a local chapter at MSU, and it's sending a strong message to students on campus.

It's the second-largest religious group on Missouri State's campus, with more than 200 members, including MSU staff.

It's a student organization Jeffrey Markus wanted to be a part of as an MSU student.

"For the people that are not heavily into a religion it feels like a real welcome movement because here on campus there's a lot of people who are very confused on what they believe and on what they want to do."

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1. Comment #76294 by jimbob on October 5, 2007 at 11:22 am

Repent now you infidels and worship the one true Teapot -- otherwise HOLY WAR!

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2. Comment #76296 by LordSummerisle on October 5, 2007 at 11:32 am

 avatarMy best wishes to the members. May His Noodly Appendage bless you all.

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3. Comment #76298 by BeyondBelief on October 5, 2007 at 11:45 am

 avatarAH, ah ,ah!!! Not so fast. This FOX presentation exposes a complete inability to understand irony and sarcasm. The reporter is presenting the group as a set of believers in specific dogma (note the Global Warming/Pirate reduction correlation) and not as a group making fun of groups that hold such absurd beliefs.

I think this report is actually designed to get the believing public all foamy in the mouth about a potential new interloper in their market. :-)

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4. Comment #76299 by _J_ on October 5, 2007 at 11:48 am

 avatarBeyondBelief

The reporter is presenting the group as a set of believers in specific dogma

Perfect.

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5. Comment #76300 by steve99 on October 5, 2007 at 11:58 am

 avatarI see a potential problem with the FSM. Maybe, in a century or so, a potential presidential candidate will proclaim his belief in Pastafarianism as a reason to be elected. This may sound ridiculous, but is the FSM really any more absurd than Mormonism?

No, I am not that serious... but then, was Joseph Smith Jr?

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6. Comment #76301 by MAS2007 on October 5, 2007 at 12:00 pm

 avatarEither the reporter completely missed the sarcasm, or is just stirring the proverbial pot. Learn not to expect great journalism from FOX stations.
Just examine the Sunday programming to reveal local meme set.

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7. Comment #76302 by Barbara on October 5, 2007 at 12:02 pm

 avatar@ jimbob

The FSM can kick your Teapot's butt! So, ne-ner-ne-ner-booboo!

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8. Comment #76304 by CruciFiction on October 5, 2007 at 12:14 pm

MORE PIRATES!!!

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9. Comment #76312 by MAS2007 on October 5, 2007 at 12:41 pm

 avatarIs it just me or are the reporters doing their damnedest to put a negative spin on rational thinking? While portraying religiosity as something positive in society.

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10. Comment #76317 by Quine on October 5, 2007 at 1:02 pm

 avatarThere are some good reasons for Atheists to convert to Pastafarians.
* First, you can stop calling yourself an "Atheist" and thus avoid all the negative things that have been discussed so often on these threads.
* Second, being a "person of faith" you may now wrap that faith around you such that others are required to refrain from the "hate speech" of telling you that what you believe is stupid.
* Third, you get to be part of a somewhat secret society (just because it is still somewhat unknown) and put this cool sticker on your car that is even more confusing to other drivers than the Darwin Fish.
* Forth, at some point, the Church of the FSM will get to cash in on US Government "Faith Based Initiatives" so we can use government money to hand out pasta and beer to the needy.
* Fifth, (and biggest) FSM bashes are WAAAAAAAY more fun than Atheist discussion gatherings.

Also, there is the question of the Supreme Being where evidence indicates the Pastafarians are much farther ahead of any other ideology. Although some argue that the SB has been found in the state of Oregon as the Giant Fungus, others support the Pando aspen in Utah while still others go for the undersea creature Posidonia. The point is that morphology shows any of these may be the earthly incarnation of His Noodly Greatness. Why waste time in silly theological discourse about the mere existence of a Supreme Being when Pastafarians can point to actual living candidates?

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11. Comment #76320 by bluebird on October 5, 2007 at 1:06 pm

 avatarMAS2007,
This is Ozark country, beautiful scenery, but, anything negative about Christianity is (usually) anthema/taboo in the media. Not surprised I have not heard about this group.
*********
A while back a poster noticed that an Atheist group 'get-together' was going to serve spaghetti[coincidence? :)].

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12. Comment #76323 by _J_ on October 5, 2007 at 1:28 pm

 avatarSpeaking as a one-time Pastafarian (and I'll always have some ragu in my blood), I'm very pleased to see this on Fox 'news'. And I didn't really think the tone was too bad - except for the comical tilt-the-head, over-emphasise the word, raise-an-eyebrow disapproval the presenter managed to put into the phrase 'pokes fun at religion'. Seriously, pause the video when she says 'religion'. It's a classic.

My old piratical friends will be overjoyed with this.

(Oh yeah, and as for the mention of hatemail - if you think the occasional quasi trolls we get here are annoying, you want to try the CFSM some time.)

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13. Comment #76327 by Matt7895 on October 5, 2007 at 1:57 pm

 avatarGreat group... though it is quite weird that theists such as Christians and Muslims are joining it. They seem to have missed the point.

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14. Comment #76333 by prettygoodformonkeys on October 5, 2007 at 2:27 pm

 avatarVerily, I say unto you that it shall come to pass that when the Antipasto has reigned for 1,000 years, and mankind has simmered in its own juices for all that time, then will the Cheeses return to earth "trailing clouds of Glorious Sauce", adorned by Precious Raymond, and attended by a host of exceedingly heavenly condiments, and He will judge us all, finding us either Al Dente or not Al Dente.

And it shall come to pass that the most succulent of us shall drift skyward, along with one-half of every chair, each after its own kind, and they shall be guided by the two angels, Fusilli and Linguini, to gaze finally upon the noodly countenance of the FSM.

It has been said of old that "No man can serve two pastas", and yet, lo, I say unto you that side salads shall be served, with Caesar dressing rendered unto those salads that are Caesars, and Romano spears of Brochetti shall cause the tomato sauce to flow from their sides.

Those not chosen shall be simmered much longer, and must sit on the remaining half-chairs, with their Left Behinds. And there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Anyone who adds a word to this, or takes away a word, shall be in danger of the Judgement: sent off without supper.

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15. Comment #76345 by v4ri4bl3 on October 5, 2007 at 3:14 pm

Great group... though it is quite weird that theists such as Christians and Muslims are joining it. They seem to have missed the point.


I think the way the reporter presented it couldn't get any better. It further amplifies the comedy in my opinion. I hope people take it seriously. Then I can laugh even harder, especially if someone I know shows serious concern over the issue. That will put me on the ground for hours lol.

And Matt, I think the theists that join are the ones that actually believe the tenets of the faith hehe. They were probably coaxed into it but their friends. Now that would be extra funny as well.

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16. Comment #76362 by sane1 on October 5, 2007 at 3:49 pm

 avatarholy meatballs! The story missed the irony totally. lame lame lame. Like most news stories.

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17. Comment #76376 by Crazymalc on October 5, 2007 at 4:32 pm

 avatarI agree with the others here in that the reporters (esp. the guy) never got the irony.

And I love the way the leader of campus group was called "Captain".

I mean, the FSM, is not real and everyone is just pretending that it is real.

*Zap*

(Crazymalc will no longer be posting here as I have killed him for his blasphemy. signed, your Lord and Master - the FSM)

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18. Comment #76385 by Canuck#1 on October 5, 2007 at 4:59 pm

 avatarOH, OH,..I am JEHOVAH GOD...and the appearance of the FSM is a sign of the last days...my angels will smite his meat balls... and verily the FSM and his minions will be consigned to the depths of hell...and verily I say unto you that spaghetti sauce is bland and the meatballs are too spicy...return you sinners...well you get the point god is not a happy camper...personaly I am in favour of the new kid on the block..HAIL TO THEE FSM

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19. Comment #76399 by Veronique on October 5, 2007 at 5:48 pm

 avatar14. Comment #76333 by prettygoodformonkeys

Hahaha. Love it.

Nicely done; I am appreciative:-).

Cheers
V

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20. Comment #76402 by Tumara Baap on October 5, 2007 at 5:52 pm

That FSM appeals to Christians and Muslims isn't surprising at all. Amongst believers, there are those who feel the Lord interferes and intervenes sparingly in our daily affairs, are cognizant of religion's oppressive sociopolitical role in history, can compartmentalize God into a box and project impressive standards of science, reason and empiricism (as do almost 40% of U.S. scientists), view religion metaphorically as a narrative that hones "spiritual" needs and often plays a positive role in fostering community bonds etc. Many such individuals are as repulsed by religious fundamentalists, and as pleased by irreverent entertainment such as Monty Python films, BillMaher shows, and Colbert Report news briefs, as are skeptics, rationalists and atheists. For these quasi-rational believers, The Holy Pasta may be the stepping stone that leads to true transcendance.

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21. Comment #76406 by Duff on October 5, 2007 at 6:10 pm

The wicked will rail against the pasta GOD, but it will avail them not. In the last days, the godless will say the pasta God is nothing, but it will avail them not. The Past God will bring down the unbeliever and deliver him unto the pasta bowls of hell. The crying and lamenting of the wicked will be their undoing. Their lamentations will be a testament against them. Their tears will grease the engines of their destruction, as its grinds the wicked into a grist that will delight the simple and give pleasure to the poor in spirit. Yeah, the downtrodden and the stupid will inherit the earth.

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22. Comment #76456 by petermun on October 5, 2007 at 11:57 pm

Aha - the anticipation of watching the Espresso Monks worshipping in the Basilica of the beautiful Abbey of Capelli di Angelo - bliss.

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23. Comment #76487 by JT at MSU on October 6, 2007 at 1:42 am

Hi, this is JT from the story. I'd like to take a moment to assure you that the reporter did get the nature of the FSM in full, and that he really did a bang up job with the report. Just for those wondering whether or not he got the gist. :)

Thanks for all the support everybody.

JT

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24. Comment #76505 by Philip1978 on October 6, 2007 at 2:48 am

 avatarJT, keep up the good work, the world needs more people like your good self spreading the Nooodly message!
I myself am High Priest of the Church of Quetz, He is a spectacular God who posts on this site regularly. None of this Teapot God rubbish, this God actually communicates with his followers, He and His prophet Billy both can prove they exist and well, what more do you need? Falcons with lasers on their heads I hear you say? You got em!

Dont listen to the hate mail, keep doing what you are doing and sod it if the religites complain!
Cheers!
Philip

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25. Comment #76508 by the great teapot on October 6, 2007 at 3:10 am

The report starts with
"as it pokes fun at religion"
Why do people on this comments page think the reporters have missed the point.
They have not missed the point at all.
Me thinks there are to many blinkered people posting here.

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26. Comment #76547 by gr8hands on October 6, 2007 at 7:37 am

I was pleased that on Wednesday's interfaith luncheon, held on the campus of a theological seminary, there was a seminary student who was wearing a t-shirt proclaiming "a pirate's life for me."

When I questioned if he was a pastafarian, he replied that he had not been touched by the noodly appendage, but was a Pirates of Penzance fan. Everyone in the little group laughed, because it was clear they all knew about the FSM, and enjoyed how it mocks blind orthodoxy.

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27. Comment #76548 by prettygoodformonkeys on October 6, 2007 at 7:39 am

 avatarThe reporter's style puzzled me at first, then I realized that it would be impossible for a TV station to laugh along with something like this. Along with their power to broadcast, they actually have an address to stalk and vandalize, and most likely shareholders, and bosses.

I think they colluded as much as they possibly could, and the whole thing was a success.

Another small noodly appendage has slithered its way through the drainboard of society: on to the next!

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28. Comment #76566 by Satanburiedfossils on October 6, 2007 at 9:52 am

 avatarMove over Catholicism.

Eating the flesh of the Flying Spaghetti Monster sounds a lot more appetizing. Plus, it avoids the whole cannibalism issue.

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29. Comment #76646 by kwhitefoot on October 6, 2007 at 3:09 pm

 avatar13. Comment #76327 by Matt7895 ... it is quite weird that theists such as Christians and Muslims are joining it. They seem to have missed the point.

Not at all, I'm a lifelong atheist but I was a member of CathSoc at uni. (Exeter 1974-1977, Physics). Cheapest cider on campus.

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30. Comment #76679 by Katherine on October 6, 2007 at 4:39 pm

 avatarRAmen!

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31. Comment #76725 by Big T on October 6, 2007 at 11:23 pm

The Flying Spaghetti Monster and The Celestial Teapot are false gods! Only Quetzalcoatl is the one true "Big G up in the sky." And, goodformonkeys, I second Veronique, you are smart and funny! Well done!

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32. Comment #76727 by prettygoodformonkeys on October 6, 2007 at 11:34 pm

 avatarVeronique (#76399)and Big T (#76725):

Thank you, very nice! After suffering through so much of it in my formative years, I shouldn't be surprised how easily it rolls off the tongue; feels good to strike back!

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33. Comment #77017 by Mysturji on October 8, 2007 at 7:32 am

 avatarAs a Genuine and Authorised Pope of the POEE, I must say that on the whole, this can only be a good thing...
Especially with Bolognaise sauce.

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34. Comment #77027 by steveroot on October 8, 2007 at 8:24 am

 avatarThus It is Written:
"In my Father's Bowl are many Noodles"
So It shall be Served.
RaMen!
Steve

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35. Comment #77234 by kev_s on October 8, 2007 at 8:10 pm

Re: Comment #76333 by prettygoodformonkeys

Brilliant but ... it is time Pastafarians ate fewer Meat Balls and instead spent more time contemplating the mystery of the Holy Trinity, "Pasta Tricolore", a concept which even an experienced pasta lover can find hard to explain.

Those of you with only a shallow understanding of the subject might think Pasta Tricolore is simply a packet of pasta with three different colours of fusilli inside, for example. But to trivialise Pasta Tricolore in this way would be a blasphemy.

Some will try to explain Pasta Tricolore by reducing it to its individual constituents. The penne cooked with tomato sauce bring the red sun from the south of Italy. The green pesto sauce, (excellent with fusilli), are the rolling hills of Liguria and the twisting waves of the green Mediterranean Sea. The yellowish creamy sauce, perhaps based on gorgonzola, and arguably best with tagliatelli, recalls the golden fields of late summer.

But such a reductionist view would fail to reveal two deeper messages; firstly that taken together the Pasta Tricolore represent the flag of Italy, proving that Italians are the spaghetti monster's chosen people. And secondly, when you can't make up your mind which delicious pasta dish to order it is such an elegant solution to lump them all together in one recipe and avoid the problem entirely. (I think you can get the recipe from the vatacan if you ask nicely.)

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36. Comment #78044 by prettygoodformonkeys on October 11, 2007 at 3:25 pm

 avatar35. Comment #77234 by kev_s on October 8, 2007 at 8:10 pm

Pasta Tricolore:

It is Three, and yet it is One!
It is One, and yet it is Three!
I am lost in the mystery....

Honk if you love Cheeses!

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37. Comment #78178 by halbard101 on October 12, 2007 at 3:59 am

Comment #76333 by prettygoodformonkeys


^^

Simply Awesome!

It sounded very python-esque :P it would have made an awesome sketch.

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38. Comment #78608 by edwaltthespisactor on October 13, 2007 at 7:40 pm

 avatarIn the manner championed by Saint Francis of the Salted Boiling Water, I have begun to ONLY consume wholewheat spaghetti in order to quickcook my way to the rapture.

Come forsake the heady and mispent luxury of refine wheat pasta, and humble thyself to the slightly off brown magesty of the WHOLE of LORD.

Available at Tesco. Every little helps.

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39. Comment #103270 by panajache69 on December 24, 2007 at 8:58 pm

 avatarArrr me noodly darling. Bless us all this squidmas. Yee are the light of the bowl and yee bring justice and meaning to forks and spoons, now working for a common gouda. All hail the prince of pasta, lord of linguini and marvel of macaroni. May the sauce be with you.

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