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The Vatican is doing its utmost to frustrate him, but the Spanish PM's reforms are marching on, and they're going to be taught in schools.2. Comment #84722 by artemisa on November 3, 2007 at 10:33 am
Bravo Zapatero!!!!!!!!!!!3. Comment #84723 by phil rimmer on November 3, 2007 at 10:38 am
4. Comment #84726 by ridelo on November 3, 2007 at 10:54 am
I saw Zapatero on the Belgian TV. And I thought: 'I like this man.', because he reminded me a bit of Jacques Rogge, our own 'mister clean of the Olympics'.5. Comment #84734 by detox on November 3, 2007 at 11:32 am
6. Comment #84741 by tieInterceptor on November 3, 2007 at 12:10 pm
7. Comment #84742 by Jonathan Dore on November 3, 2007 at 12:12 pm
Detox: waste of time, I'm afraid. The Catholic Church has never considered biblical texts to be essential to doctrine -- it considers itself, as an institution, to be an equally valid source of authority. After all, the whole theological edifice of veneration around Mary (immaculate conception, perpetual virginity, flying to heaven on her deathbed etc.) has been entirely contrived by the church over the centuries without any help from the bible. To believing Catholics, every papal bull and encyclical carries as much weight as a gospel.8. Comment #84752 by alfonso on November 3, 2007 at 12:37 pm
As a Spaniard living in Ireland, I've had the chance to see the effects of the roman catholic church and I can only say, I'm happy I voted for this man! Oh, and it was postal vote from Ireland, so no chance for my vote to be decided by the Madrid bombings.9. Comment #84756 by SilentMike on November 3, 2007 at 12:58 pm
"The catholic church. Screwing everything up for absolutely everyone since 313"10. Comment #84757 by Logicel on November 3, 2007 at 1:02 pm
11. Comment #84760 by Veronique on November 3, 2007 at 1:09 pm
12. Comment #84788 by Mr DArcy on November 3, 2007 at 3:25 pm
13. Comment #84789 by BAEOZ on November 3, 2007 at 3:46 pm
14. Comment #84797 by Russell Blackford on November 3, 2007 at 4:32 pm
Ya gotta love Grayling. Well said!15. Comment #84798 by Dax on November 3, 2007 at 4:33 pm
The problem with Zapatero and other European socialists like him is that they are willing to attack Christianity, but leave the door wide open for Islamic fundamentalism. It was Islamic fundamentalism that paved the road for Zapatero to gain power (remember the bombings?), but he and other European leaders are unwilling to focus on this.16. Comment #84819 by koldito on November 3, 2007 at 5:41 pm
I just wanted to point out that the top boss of Spanish catholicism, cardinal Antonio Caņizares, recently declared (literally) that those who support the civics course at school are guilty of supporting evil. I guess the Church has no place for human rights.17. Comment #84822 by PrimeNumbers on November 3, 2007 at 6:05 pm
18. Comment #84823 by BAEOZ on November 3, 2007 at 6:13 pm
Fascism and Catholicism - what's the difference?
19. Comment #84826 by Crazymalc on November 3, 2007 at 6:50 pm
and encouraging greater participation and opportunities for women in Spain's society and economy.
20. Comment #84830 by nothing on November 3, 2007 at 8:27 pm
How can any sane minded organisation oppose something as basic as this?
21. Comment #84838 by Veronique on November 3, 2007 at 10:10 pm
22. Comment #84883 by Marie-Louise on November 4, 2007 at 2:57 am
Answer to Veronique comment 8476023. Comment #84905 by PrimeNumbers on November 4, 2007 at 6:36 am
24. Comment #84919 by Veronique on November 4, 2007 at 7:58 am
25. Comment #84943 by LBraschi on November 4, 2007 at 10:10 am
26. Comment #84962 by kaiserkriss on November 4, 2007 at 10:57 am
27. Comment #84966 by Corylus on November 4, 2007 at 11:27 am
Or is this too simplistic?
28. Comment #85191 by irate_atheist on November 5, 2007 at 9:04 am
29. Comment #85276 by annabanana on November 5, 2007 at 11:53 am
30. Comment #85284 by epeeist on November 5, 2007 at 12:13 pm
It would vary from company to company here in the UK, but for most I suspect it would be grounds for disciplinary action.
I think there was an article on here about the Golden Compass, but I don't have time to link it. I live in the "Bible Belt" in the U.S. and there is actually an e-mail going around the office of the state agency I work for. The e-mail tells everyone to boycott the books and the movies because they are "anti-Christian".
31. Comment #85402 by annabanana on November 5, 2007 at 6:21 pm
32. Comment #86682 by Goodwithwood on November 10, 2007 at 12:27 am
33. Comment #87910 by Veronique on November 13, 2007 at 3:35 pm
I felt like we were making progress, but in the last week or so, that thought has been vacated.
34. Comment #87912 by BAEOZ on November 13, 2007 at 3:48 pm
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