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Saturday, November 3, 2007 | Reason : Commentary | print version Print | Comments

Document Jesus Rides the Number 7 Train

by Mickey Z, The Smirking Chimp

Thanks to Gregory Elich for the link.

Reposted from:
http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/10763

I'm riding a rush hour #7 train from Queens to Manhattan when suddenly: I sense danger. My eyes dart to the left. No more than 15 feet from me, a woman is in possession of that common haven for misplaced trust: a bible.

Some years ago, comparative study of religious attitudes found that nearly 75 percent of Americans literally believe in religious "miracles" and the "devil"; only 9 percent of Americans accepted Darwinian evolution while about half the population believed in divine-guided evolution; 40 percent thought the earth was created about 6000 years ago.

Nowhere else in the industrial world can such pre-Enlightenment levels as this be found. The development of highly irrational and self-destructive attitudes is one of the consequences of the growing alienation and isolation of people I am wallowing in right now on the #7. Indoctrinated to leave governing to the people who we're told can actually "handle" it, we've almost given up demanding results from our leaders. Instead, we take State Department press releases and New York Times editorials at face value and end up directing our pleas for help to the heavens instead of to the people we voted into office.

But that is the penultimate function of religion, isn't it? It supplies a "carved-in-stone" set of laws to save us from the hardship of thinking for ourselves. Instead we look to media-created stars like the Pope or the Dalai Lama to confirm our self-doubt.

The followers of any religion are pacified not by having their abject circumstances changed, but by being taught ways to tolerate the intolerable. Organized religion-fueled by all our doubts, fears, and repressed desires-gives some meaning to their perpetual suffering. So, in the name of endless suffering, here are some probing questions for the next bible-thumper you encounter:
* If your god is all-knowing, why do you need to pray in order to let him know what you want?
* For that matter, if he already knows what's going to happen, what good is prayer anyway?
* If your god sent his son to earth to save it, and there's life on other planets, did he send the same son to those other planets or does he have other kids to spare?
* By the way, why did he pick Nazareth in the first place? I mean, it wasn't exactly Times Square. This choice made the spread of Christianity a rather laborious project, wouldn't you say? And why did he wait so long? Did your god not care about the generations that came before Jesus?
* Then, when Jesus supposedly came back from the grave, he still didn't announce it far and wide. Hey, if your god is so omnipotent, why did he hatch such a hare-brained scheme to begin with?
* Finally, here's a favorite: Who would win in a fight, Jesus Christ or Godzilla?

My guess is that the giant lizard would blast JC with the atomic breath, not realizing that Jesus would rise again three days later. This pattern would repeat itself a few times until JC looked skyward and turned the Pacific Ocean into wine. Godzilla would partake in a sip or two and upon seeing his opponent strolling on the water, check into reptile wing of the Betty Ford Clinic.

TKO: Jesus.

Mickey Z. can be found on the Web at http://www.mickey.net.

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1. Comment #84731 by zythum on November 3, 2007 at 11:14 am

No more than 15 feet from me, a woman is in possession of that common haven for misplaced trust: a bible.

I always carry a bullet in my shirt pocket in case someone throws a bible at me.

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2. Comment #84738 by nancy2001 on November 3, 2007 at 11:39 am

Great little essay. I enjoyed it.

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3. Comment #84747 by Logicel on November 3, 2007 at 12:27 pm

 avatarLast paragraph had me squealing with laughter.

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4. Comment #84759 by kurtdenke on November 3, 2007 at 1:04 pm

But that is the penultimate function of religion, isn't it?


Forgive me if I'm dim, but I cannot figure this out. Is the author suggesting that this is the second-most-important, or second-to-last, function of religion, and making some sort of indirect reference to whatever the "ultimate" function is? Or is the author just one of those people who really, really likes big words but isn't sure what all of them mean?

It's an okay sort of essay, I guess. I think the only really good part is the "Jesus vs. Godzilla" bit, though, which does bring colorful imagery to mind...

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5. Comment #84764 by DV82XL on November 3, 2007 at 1:27 pm

"It is the final proof of God's omnipotence that he need not exist in order to save us. - Peter De Vries

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6. Comment #84773 by A. Person on November 3, 2007 at 2:02 pm

"A boss in Heaven is the best excuse for a boss on earth, therefore If God did exist, he would have to be abolished." - Mikhail Bakunin

In the long run, nothing changes about the church. Or the arguments against it.

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7. Comment #84775 by Diacanu on November 3, 2007 at 2:17 pm

 avatarMy Jesus takes the morning train!
He works from 9 to 5 and then!
He takes the train back home again!
To find me waiting for him!

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8. Comment #84784 by idragosani on November 3, 2007 at 2:57 pm

Ummm... penultimate means "next to last"... so what is the ultimate function?

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9. Comment #84790 by Satanburiedfossils on November 3, 2007 at 4:00 pm

 avatarAmerican Fundies believe...

* Believe that all humans on the planet are descended from two people of European ethnicity who lived in the Middle East.

* Believe that a virgin born in what is now modern-day Palestine -- but who was somehow of European descent -- gave birth to a man/god and was later teleported to Heaven, but the best trick she can perform today is to transmit her image in the form of food products and hard-water stains.

* Believe that Jesus was the embodiment of God and thus knew everything but had no clue when he would return.

* Believe that Bronze-age Mesopotamian desert-dwelling nomads really had it going on when it comes to the natural sciences.

* Believe in a supreme being that is omnipotent, eternal, and indestructible yet has an ego that is so fragile that the slightest affront causes it to go to pieces like a small child.

* Believe that the sky is lined with spigots which the Almighty sometimes absentmindedly forgets to turn on.

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10. Comment #84792 by Satanburiedfossils on November 3, 2007 at 4:17 pm

 avatarExcerpt from Adrian Swindler's "The Flat-Earth: Still an Embarassment to Bible Inerrantists" examining some ridiculous questions (at least in light of modern day understanding) that God asked Job:

Let's look, for example, at the questions this god allegedly asked Job.
They are either questions that little children in school could easily
answer or those that are based on erroneous conceptions. "What holds
up the pillars that support the earth? Who laid the cornerstone of the
world?" (v:6). ANSWER: There ain't any, and nobody! "Who closed
the gates to hold back the sea?" (v:8). ANSWER: Nobody, because
there are no gates. "Have you walked on the floor of the ocean?"
(v:16). ANSWER: People have, so what? "Do you know where light comes
from or what the source of darkness is?" (v:19). ANSWER: What a
question! It reminds me of an old "little moron" joke. In a
class discussing the relative importance of the sun and the moon, the
teacher asked, "Which is more important, the sun or the moon?"
The little moron answered, "Why, the moon is more important! It gives
us light at night when we need it; the sun is there in the daytime when
it's already light." This entire chapter in Job is laughable to
anyone educated in science.

http://www.skepticfiles.org/sr/3flat90.htm

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11. Comment #84817 by Duff on November 3, 2007 at 5:34 pm

To mention State Department press releases and New York Times editorials in the same sentence is a bit much. Otherwise, it was a cute piece.

Satanburiedfossils, how dare you minimize the neat trick of Mary appearing in a hard water stain. I'll have you know that is very difficult to pull off. Getting your face in a tortilla is a piece of cake, so to speak, but staining a window with a sprinkler takes time and a lot of special powers.

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12. Comment #84825 by Crazymalc on November 3, 2007 at 6:45 pm

 avatarJesus vs. Godzilla?

No Contest.

Jesus would whip some but.

http://overcompensating.com/posts/20071030.html

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13. Comment #84851 by Big T on November 4, 2007 at 12:47 am

Jesus vs Gojira? (Gojira is the orignal Japanese name of the monster - a combination of 2 Japanese words that comes out to mean roughly "Gorilla Whale" - The Hulk could beat both of them at the same time!

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14. Comment #84878 by keith on November 4, 2007 at 2:28 am

 avatarKurtdenke,

No, I don't think you're dim. I can't make out why the writer used the word 'penultimate' either and suspect he doesn't understand it.

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15. Comment #85084 by Conrad on November 4, 2007 at 11:42 pm

Penultimate is just another linguistic fad. Much like "schadenfreude" was there for a while and "raison de etre" was before that. It'll pass. Forgive him his writers weaknesses.

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16. Comment #85093 by Diacanu on November 5, 2007 at 12:42 am

 avatarI tried to get "insouciance", going around the net at the same time "schadenfreude", was hip, but it didn't take.

:(

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17. Comment #85432 by kurtdenke on November 5, 2007 at 9:06 pm

Penultimate is just another linguistic fad. Much like "schadenfreude" was there for a while and "raison de etre" was before that. It'll pass. Forgive him his writers weaknesses.


Well, it might be a fad; but could people use it in some sense that roughly resembles its definition? It means "second to last," (from the Latin paene ultima, "almost last") and I suspect that the error here was that he thought it meant "ultimate" with emphasis: really, really ultimate, not just ordinary ultimate. "Imagine something ultimate, then something ultimater, then the ultimatest thing you can imagine. Then imagine something even more ultimate than that, and that's penultimate." I feel like mailing him a dictionary.

Raison d'etre reminds me of something, though. Once when I was in high school, a friend of mine wrote a hilarious essay for a satire school paper we were doing, which began by saying that people had been asking us what our "raisin debtor" was, and he noted that we had not one, but several raisins debtor. As was the tradition at the time, I responded to the essay by blowing milk out of my nose.

As for schadenfreude: heck, that's a useful concept, and hard to put into words otherwise. I can't say I use the word more than once every couple of years, but it's a handy one when you need it. I'd hate to see people diluting it by tossing it around as a way of referring to Sigmund Freud's shoes or something.

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18. Comment #102117 by star4liberty on December 21, 2007 at 3:34 pm

There's a Lion in the Subway who stands on his hind legs, puts his paws together and proclaims, "Beloved Creator, Thank You for these meals that I am about to partake of.

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19. Comment #102122 by Radesq on December 21, 2007 at 3:45 pm

 avatarWhat about Jesus versus eleven tiny Ditka's?

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