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SPOKANE, Washington (AP) -- Washoe, a female chimpanzee said to be the first non-human to acquire human language, has died of natural causes at the research institute where she was kept.2. Comment #85406 by NakedCelt on November 5, 2007 at 6:43 pm
Not so; Washoe never mastered complex grammar and never discussed abstractions, but she was quite capable of conversing in simple sentences about her immediate world. Read Roger Fouts' Next of Kin. He does draw some possibly unwarranted conclusions, but if Washoe was no more than a trained parrot then he's not just jumping to conclusions, he's lying through his teeth.3. Comment #85409 by aquilacane on November 5, 2007 at 6:51 pm
4. Comment #85438 by Inferno on November 5, 2007 at 9:46 pm
learned to imitate sign language, but did not develop true language skills
5. Comment #85471 by eric.malitz on November 6, 2007 at 1:33 am
I think people make too large a deal over the line between imitation and full grammer usage. The chimp made appropiate gestures at appropiate times and combined those to describe things and situations.6. Comment #85508 by Diacanu on November 6, 2007 at 3:25 am
This chimp used language like any trained parrot.
7. Comment #85536 by prettygoodformonkeys on November 6, 2007 at 5:26 am
8. Comment #85594 by JFHalsey on November 6, 2007 at 10:34 am
I admit that I don't know anything about Washoe, but I've watched documentaries on Koko, the gorilla who learned sign language, and I assure you she understood what she was signing. She even learned to make up new words to describe things she was unfamiliar with ("Finger-bracelet" for a ring, for instance).9. Comment #85604 by Zakie Chan on November 6, 2007 at 11:41 am
10. Comment #85610 by arogop on November 6, 2007 at 12:03 pm
11. Comment #85650 by Corylus on November 6, 2007 at 3:34 pm
12. Comment #85714 by eric.malitz on November 6, 2007 at 11:29 pm
Prettygoodformonkeys- hilarious picture.13. Comment #85819 by lpetrich on November 7, 2007 at 9:17 am
14. Comment #86211 by troyreynolds86 on November 8, 2007 at 5:47 pm
One wouldn't expect for a chimpanzee or a gorilla to be able to construct complex sentences or abstract ideas through sign language, and deeming this as being the core of language is both inaccurate and unjustified. The primary purpose, though not the extent, of language is communication. The ability of these other primates for such communication is at its most basic language, in much the same way as a dog is capable of communication by scratching a door or peering into an empty dish with pained eyes. Our language is our evolved trait, as is our brain's capacity for abstraction, but where we miss the lesson of Washoe and Koko is that thoughts, desires and emotions, and a contructive way of relaying them, is not ours alone. I think, in my most humble opinion, that to dismiss such, if in fact it is communication, as not being language we again fall victim to self-centered elevation of our species as being of the most regal design. Such plays well into the hands of those who trace their lineage to Adam.15. Comment #86337 by fiagottpf on November 9, 2007 at 2:09 am
I found this video on the TED website.16. Comment #117676 by Y-bloc on January 29, 2008 at 11:09 am
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