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3. Comment #91679 by bucketchemist on November 29, 2007 at 1:05 am
4. Comment #91684 by toaldingham on November 29, 2007 at 1:22 am
5. Comment #91686 by gcdavis on November 29, 2007 at 1:33 am
6. Comment #91687 by Scott McMeekin on November 29, 2007 at 1:33 am
7. Comment #91700 by tieInterceptor on November 29, 2007 at 2:10 am
8. Comment #91705 by Nick Good on November 29, 2007 at 2:28 am
9. Comment #91714 by RickM on November 29, 2007 at 3:51 am
10. Comment #91715 by USA_Limey on November 29, 2007 at 4:08 am
11. Comment #91716 by logical on November 29, 2007 at 4:16 am
12. Comment #91717 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on November 29, 2007 at 4:25 am
13. Comment #91719 by BaronOchs on November 29, 2007 at 4:35 am
14. Comment #91745 by USA_Limey on November 29, 2007 at 6:07 am
Turn off and unplug appliances at night.
Heat with renewable wood.
Get a smaller car or use public transport.
Pester your representative to endorse green solutions.
Install small scale solar or wind power (if you can afford it).
Buy locally grown, organically produced goods
15. Comment #91753 by Dr Benway on November 29, 2007 at 6:34 am
16. Comment #91760 by hungarianelephant on November 29, 2007 at 7:10 am
17. Comment #91762 by Floris Meijer on November 29, 2007 at 7:21 am
18. Comment #91765 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on November 29, 2007 at 7:33 am
19. Comment #91766 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on November 29, 2007 at 7:36 am
20. Comment #91770 by Cartomancer on November 29, 2007 at 7:53 am
21. Comment #91771 by AdrianB on November 29, 2007 at 7:57 am
22. Comment #91772 by hungarianelephant on November 29, 2007 at 8:02 am
23. Comment #91775 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on November 29, 2007 at 8:19 am
24. Comment #91777 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on November 29, 2007 at 8:21 am
25. Comment #91778 by stereoroid on November 29, 2007 at 8:25 am
26. Comment #91779 by Fanusi Khiyal on November 29, 2007 at 8:32 am
I have to agree. There only a very limited interpretation of the events. These mad bastards endorsed the flogging of a healthy 19 year old girl for being gang raped, and having the temerity to question her treatment. They are also trying to have her lawyer disbarred!!!
27. Comment #91781 by paulifa1 on November 29, 2007 at 8:44 am
The UK establishment isn't just tolerant of the Saudi regime because of oil, they have just completed a sale of state of the art aircraft and arms to the saudi's for several billion pounds sterling, only the latest of many such transactions! To see the queen giving the king of this disgusting regime the full pomp and circumstance treatment recently makes me feel ashamed to be british...28. Comment #91782 by hungarianelephant on November 29, 2007 at 9:05 am
29. Comment #91784 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on November 29, 2007 at 9:21 am
30. Comment #91791 by Steven Mading on November 29, 2007 at 10:08 am
One really sad thing is that the only reason she even got any attention from the courts to try to bring her rapists to justice at all is because her husband stood up for her and helped force the issue, and since he's a MAN, they had to listen. His associates were telling him that the "right" thing to do would be to divorce her, but instead he fought for her. He deserves some credit for bucking the trend and instead believing the radical notion that women are actually people.31. Comment #91795 by AdrianB on November 29, 2007 at 10:43 am
24. Comment #91777 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on November 29, 2007 at 8:21 am
21. Comment #91771 by AdrianB on November 29, 2007 at 7:57 am
In the context of this story, isn't our reliance on Saudi oil a bit irrelevant?
No it's pretty pivotal. Zimbabwe gets a fair bit of justified stick for their governments dodgy behaviour. While all we get on Saudia Arabia, is a little intermittent muted mewling.
Whats the difference? Oil.
32. Comment #91799 by Fanusi Khiyal on November 29, 2007 at 10:56 am
But that's my point. Zimbabwe gets a fair bit of justified stick, and they STILL behave like shits.
33. Comment #91800 by Bonzai on November 29, 2007 at 10:59 am
Comment #91795 by AdrianB34. Comment #91804 by Fanusi Khiyal on November 29, 2007 at 11:00 am
Bonzai I'm with you on this. We need to quarantine this problem before it gets worse. And you will notice that those Muslim countries that are the least radical are the ones where they have no oil, and hence have needed to depend on commerce - and hence, not acting like barbarians.35. Comment #91805 by Stew282 on November 29, 2007 at 11:01 am
36. Comment #91814 by Bonzai on November 29, 2007 at 11:17 am
You don't need more warfare. All you need is a bit of honesty.37. Comment #91832 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on November 29, 2007 at 12:15 pm
38. Comment #91836 by Fanusi Khiyal on November 29, 2007 at 12:32 pm
The only way to stop it (short of mass killing) is to put binding global laws in place as regards human rights and accept as binding on us as well as anyone else.
39. Comment #91850 by Bonzai on November 29, 2007 at 12:58 pm
There is another matter. The U.S. ,--and to a lesser degree other Western countries as well,--props up governments like the House of Saud to ensure that the oil is in "friendly" hands. The Saudi know that they have bargaining power because they provide a useful service. They are taking full advantage of it.40. Comment #92007 by kaiserkriss on November 29, 2007 at 5:16 pm
41. Comment #92108 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on November 29, 2007 at 10:14 pm
42. Comment #92143 by AdrianB on November 30, 2007 at 12:29 am
43. Comment #95639 by Dr Benway on December 8, 2007 at 9:57 pm
kaiserkriss: I might be naive...Things will be busy at the Hague. In Saudi Arabia, beheadings, floggings, and amputations happen weekly after Friday prayers. The executioner is appointed by drawing lots among the men.
1. Comment #91670 by suffolkthinker on November 29, 2007 at 12:13 am
I seem to remember our own (British) Royal Family just entertained the Saudi Royal Family on a state visit without a mutter about how they behave yet our Prime Minister is happy to refuse to attend a meeting is the Prime Minister of Zimbabwe is also attending.Zimbabwe has an obnoxious government so credit on that, but Saudi has an even more obnoxious government and set of laws. Double standards or what?
Surely it's not oil that makes the difference?
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