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Note to radical Muslims: I've now named my favorite coffee mug 'Muhammad.' Hope that helps2. Comment #94884 by Nick Good on December 7, 2007 at 12:48 am
3. Comment #94899 by jonjermey on December 7, 2007 at 1:25 am
What's wrong with gay Popes? Would a straight Pope be any better?4. Comment #94900 by Eamonn Shute on December 7, 2007 at 1:27 am
5. Comment #94904 by sornord on December 7, 2007 at 1:38 am
I dropped a healthy sh*te once and proclaimed, "Oh...my god!" so naming your dog Allah seems perfectly acceptable too.6. Comment #94905 by Conrad on December 7, 2007 at 1:41 am
It is a common misconception that in the muslim world there exists anything called "moderate islam". Ayan Hirsi Ali would do well to give our columnist a good talking to. All too often assumptions are made and parallels pointed to that don't exist, but could be set right, if we only asked people who have actually been there, lived it and know.7. Comment #94914 by Fanusi Khiyal on December 7, 2007 at 1:57 am
Indeed, the distressed reaction from normal Muslims must be a very similar to what average Christians experience when they hear about yet another loud-mouthed gaggle of Bible zealots using Jesus as a weapon to attack and bash and impede, to go after gays and women and science and sex and terrifying little books about girls and magic dust and talking polar bears.
To me, both are dead right, and yet also deeply missing the point, if for no other reason than that they both argue their perspectives straight from the mind, the realm of reason and logic, when spirit is, of course, a matter of the heart. To me, the greatest argument against organized religion is not merely that it makes no logical sense — this much is obvious. It's how it puts the heart, the fluid and indefinable — and yes, hotly mystical — spirit, in a kind of theological cage, bound and gagged and fed only scraps of carefully censored truth, and dares to call it love.
8. Comment #94923 by Vaal on December 7, 2007 at 2:26 am
9. Comment #94931 by RascoHeldall on December 7, 2007 at 2:44 am
I'll again ask where all our muslim counter-protesters are? If they are indeed the greater majority, why do they not even write anonymous letters to editors, or to tv stations? Where is the widespread outrage that such action is taken in the name of their "moderate peaceful faith"? Or does it not exist?
10. Comment #94942 by Conrad on December 7, 2007 at 3:10 am
Rasco, I applaud you efforts. I am of course skeptical that any such "moderate" group actually exists. But nothing would delight me more than to see another group of muslims rallying against the zealots.11. Comment #94954 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on December 7, 2007 at 3:41 am
12. Comment #94964 by Conrad on December 7, 2007 at 4:16 am
Brian, while to some extent you may be correct about the 60 percent of british muslims who do not advocate Sharia law, this says little about those who actually live in those muslim countries under question. It is almost to be expected that some number of those who live in a tolerant land will easily feel free at relatively little expense to themselves to speak out. Where are our representatives from muslim countries (the countries where these atrocities take place most importantly)? The reaction from those in a free land and blunted by western democracy, should not be held as the prime example of muslim belief nor moderation. Where are those who actually LIVE there who are speaking out? Are there exactly zero people in Sudan who support freedom in regards to religion? Lets not talk about the british, lest we be reminded about the near 40 percent who prefer Sharia law.13. Comment #94968 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on December 7, 2007 at 4:32 am
14. Comment #94980 by kmichels on December 7, 2007 at 5:21 am
Looking at some of the comments here, I think we need to keep in mind that Islam is, and always has been, pre-disposed to violence as a means to an end, and so has Christianity. My opinion on the matter is that the only reason that we *don't* see christians burning down movie theatres and hacking off the heads of so-called infidels naming their soft toys Jesus, is that we've been really lucky in many Western nations that the Law has developed mostly independently of religion, which means that the legal basis of law and order in most Western is mostly free from the religious shackles with which Islamic states have bound their legal systems (although I'll bet someone will disagree with me on this and have half a dozen websites and publications to prove me wrong!).15. Comment #95002 by Fanusi Khiyal on December 7, 2007 at 6:30 am
I wrote to the allegedly-moderate Muslim Council of Britain (MCB) earlier this year to ask if they would consider staging, or at least being involved in, a peaceful demonstration against the terrorists acting in the name of their faith. It would have been an opportunity for the more progressive wing of Islam to show solidarity with the civilised world, and build bridges with other 'communities'.
No reply.
I wrote again. Still no reply.
Finally, on the third attempt, when I indicated I would be writing to my MP, they sent some cock and bull flim-flam which translated as "No, we're not going to protest against the actions of any muslim".
What this means is that just because it isn't Christian violence we're seeing doesn't mean it can't and won't happen
16. Comment #95006 by Jack Rawlinson on December 7, 2007 at 6:36 am
17. Comment #95092 by Conrad on December 7, 2007 at 10:42 am
Brian, I too agree that if there are indeed moderate muslims within islamic nations then they should be encouraged. I'm simply having a hard time finding them.18. Comment #95105 by arogop on December 7, 2007 at 11:03 am
19. Comment #95113 by upsidedawn on December 7, 2007 at 11:19 am
20. Comment #95130 by Pilot22A on December 7, 2007 at 12:14 pm
"Alas, I do not yet have a dog. When I finally get one, perhaps I shall name him Allah. Maybe I shall get a second dog and name her Buddha, my parrot Jesus"21. Comment #95572 by Nephite on December 8, 2007 at 3:50 pm
I wonder if there are any Prophet Muhammad coffee mugs. If anybody knows where I can buy one, please let me know.22. Comment #95618 by Luis_Cayetano on December 8, 2007 at 7:33 pm
"What's wrong with gay Popes? Would a straight Pope be any better?"23. Comment #98528 by dariusdeluded on December 13, 2007 at 8:40 pm
"What's wrong with gay Popes? Would a straight Pope be any better?"
I think he was being ironic.
All these thoughts swirl and dance when suddenly I read that the pope, perhaps the most dangerous, out-of-touch world figure in all of organized religion's dour pantheon, has declared that atheists — atheists! — are responsible for some of "the greatest forms of cruelty" in history. I laugh out loud. It is a wonder that lightning did not strike him dead on the spot.
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1. Comment #94882 by Theocrapcy on December 7, 2007 at 12:39 am
Brilliant.
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