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Wednesday, January 9, 2008 | Reason : Political | print version Print | Comments

Document New attempt to end blasphemy law

by Index Online

Thanks to Linda Ward Selbie for the link.

Reposted from:
http://www.indexonline.org/en/news/articles/2007/3/britain-new-attempt-to-end-blasphemy-law.shtml

Also see:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7178439.stm (thanks to Friend Giskard)

parliamentLiberal Democrat MP Dr Evan Harris will tomorrow table an amendment to the Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill calling for the abolition of 'blasphemous libel'. Here, Terry Sanderson of the National Secular Society explains why such a crime has no place in a liberal society

Religion in Britain was, until relatively recently, sinking quietly into oblivion. It was suffering a lingering death brought on by utter indifference.

But now, suddenly, it is on the front page of the newspapers just about every day of the week. It often leads on the news and its ubiquity is beginning to alert even the most news-averse citizen that something extraordinary, and quite alarming, is going on.

One of the aspects of the religious revival that seems to anger people most is the desire by religious bodies to restrict freedom to examine, criticise and mock their beliefs. Proposed restrictions on 'incitement to religious hatred' and 'defamation of religion' are suddenly pre-occupying legislators in parliaments around the globe, in the United Nations and the Council of Europe. We don't need to go over again the many cases that have sparked this frenzy of demands for censorship, from Salman Rushdie to Jerry Springer The Opera, from Bezhti to the Mohammed cartoons.

All of them spring from a very ancient concept: blasphemy. The idea that there should be a penalty for speaking or writing irreverently, disrespectfully or insultingly about a religion and its gods is as old as religion itself. Of course, the idea of blasphemy is a complete affront to the modern liberal, but the law that enforces it remains in place in Britain.

Now there is to be a new attempt to get rid of it. Liberal Democrat MP Dr Evan Harris will propose an amendment to the Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill on Wednesday 9 January, seeking to rid our legal system of this anachronism once and for all. As 'blasphemous libel' is a crime, the amendment can be submitted to a bill concerning criminal justice.

Those of us involved in agitating for this amendment know it follows many other brave attempts to achieve the same end. I have a personal interest in that some of my predecessors in the freethought movement were sent to jail with hard labour for extended periods after their (by modern standards, rather feeble) satires offended the pious.

One day, of course, the government and the Church will accept that blasphemy has had its day, is unusable (because of its incompatibility with the Human Rights Act) and discriminatory, given that it only protects the 'tenets and beliefs of the Church of England'. Maybe that day has come.

When David Blunkett was Home Secretary and fighting to introduce legislation to outlaw 'religious hatred', he made a vague promise that if such a law were to be accepted, then the blasphemy law would go as a quid pro quo. Well, the Racial and Religious Hatred Act is now on the statute book, but the blasphemy law remains stubbornly in force.

The crime of blasphemy and blasphemous libel has existed in England and Wales for more than 300 years as a common law offence (that is, a crime that has not been defined by parliament and does not appear on the statute book, but was invented and developed by judges. Indeed, blasphemy is one of the very few remaining judge-made laws, which explains why so many ambiguities surround it). At the last successful trial for blasphemy the judge said blasphemous libel was committed 'if a publication about God, Christ, the Christian religion or the Bible used words which were scurrilous, abusive or offensive, which vilified Christianity and might lead to a breach of the peace'. The judges can, of course, decide the punishment, and it is without limit.

Following the notorious Gay News trial in 1977, the Law Commission made two recommendations in the 1980s that the law of blasphemy should be abolished, but both came to nothing. Lord Scarman even argued that in order to make it compliant with human rights law, it should be extended to cover all religions. Subsequent events have shown what a disaster that would have been.

Recent incidents in Pakistan and Sudan have been perfect examples of the way blasphemy law can be misused. We have seen Christians and atheists in Pakistan being put on death row after show trials when they were accused of blasphemy. We have seen other victims being summarily executed by prison guards or lynched by mobs who apparently don't need to wait for a trial – for them an accusation is sufficient. The law is used ruthlessly to settle disputes between neighbours and to rid the authorities of inconvenient critics. It is the despot's best friend.

In Sudan, the teddy bear fiasco made headlines around the world. But there are others who have been accused of blasphemy and imprisoned since Gillian Gibbons, and their cases will not be rewarded with the same happy ending.

The existence of a blasphemy law in Britain makes it difficult for the British authorities to argue against it elsewhere. What hypocrites we seem when we rail against the injustice of it in the Islamic world, while clinging to it for some reason ourselves.

It is because blasphemy accusations are being used to persecute Christians in Islamic countries such as Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Iran, that bishops of the Church of England are realising that it cannot remain extant here. And so former Archbishop of Canterbury George Carey and former Bishop of Oxford Richard Harries joined other worthies to sign a letter to the Daily Telegraph calling for the government to support Evan Harris's amendment. It is thought others will follow.

As the recent attempt by Stephen Green to bring a blasphemy prosecution against the BBC (over its screening of Jerry Springer The Opera) illustrates, blasphemy is a dead letter in this country. But its continued presence in our legal system causes affront and inconvenience to many people.

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1. Comment #109662 by Devolution on January 9, 2008 at 12:34 pm

 avatarGreat! Now you Brits can say "Suck my balls God" just like us Yanks say in the states. Give it a try, it feels good.

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2. Comment #109664 by Phaeonix on January 9, 2008 at 12:36 pm

 avatarIf there were such a law on the books over here, I can't even begin to imagine the level of abuse...

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3. Comment #109668 by Roger Stanyard on January 9, 2008 at 12:47 pm

Devolution: IIRC the blasphemy laws only apply when the alleged blasphemy is against the beliefs of the Church of England.

We can say what we like about other denominations and religions. That's why it is a complete anachronism.

The laws were basically dead, IIRC, until the 1970s and I guess it is exceedingly difficult to bring a prospecution under them.

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4. Comment #109670 by Peacebeuponme on January 9, 2008 at 12:55 pm

Great news. Good to see the Bishop of Oxford on the case. He seems to be one of the good guys on the theist side.

I'm sure there will be some who think its a fuss over nothing when the law is seldom used these days (and given its conflict with human right laws, I think it would be difficult to). But the fact that its there written down makes a statement. We should all be free to say what we want, so good luck to Dr Harris.

Maybe they can remove the treason laws next.

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5. Comment #109672 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on January 9, 2008 at 12:58 pm

 avatarWe interrupt this program to bring you latest from "Talking to Theists".

http://richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=33112&p=611833#p611833

Apologies for the hiatus, normal programming resumes:-)

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6. Comment #109676 by threespeed on January 9, 2008 at 1:23 pm

Here's a documentary from 2005 (screened just after Jerry Springer: The Opera was aired by the BBC) about the idiotic religious hatred law and freedom of speech under religious censorship. As well as JS:TO it examines the cases of 'Bezhti' and 'Submission' and has footage of Evan Harris and Rowan Atkinson making statements in the Cambridge Union.

Dispatches: Holy Offensive
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cam_mqaSioA
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xf5Og_0eAw
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4Ou7Pqb6z4
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgMiNQyEktI
Part 5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LwpWnjpCuM

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7. Comment #109679 by Ivan The Not So Bad on January 9, 2008 at 1:29 pm

There is a live discussion about this tonight on BBC Radio 5 Live after 23.00 GMT if anyone wants to listen or join in via text or e-mail.

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8. Comment #109685 by Steve Zara on January 9, 2008 at 1:42 pm

 avatarThis is excellent news, and a small step in the direction of removing the influence of the established Church of England.

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9. Comment #109686 by Dunc-uk on January 9, 2008 at 1:43 pm

 avatarComedian Stewart Lee co-wrote Jerry Springer the Opera, I recently posted in the forums about his 2005 show in which he talks a bit about the blasphemy debacle and how it affected him:

http://richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=31042

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10. Comment #109687 by Synchronium on January 9, 2008 at 1:44 pm

If this is something we never use anyway, I don't see how anyone could refuse.

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11. Comment #109692 by AllanW on January 9, 2008 at 1:54 pm

 avatarI just e.mailed my MP asking her to support the proposed amendment. The National Secular Society has a piece on it today (after an article earlier in the week) and suggest you contact your MP.

However she is a NuLab drone so may not :(( although it looks like it might be a free vote.

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12. Comment #109703 by Matt7895 on January 9, 2008 at 2:19 pm

 avatarThe government have delayed the bill until they make their own amendment, which will still get rid of the blasphemy law, but they want to do it on their terms. I've already emailed my MP (Caroline Spelman, Chairman of the Conservative Party) regarding the issue and have asked for her support. I am yet to receive a reply.

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13. Comment #109704 by 3ddm on January 9, 2008 at 2:22 pm

 avatarAs an NSS member, I received an email from them, and petitioned my MP a couple of days ago; oddly I didn't think to make a fuss about it here. It seems in retrospect a perfectly obvious thing to do. Does anyone know if there is anything else we can currently do to try and make this happen? Much as I love this web site and forum, I'd relish the opportunity to be a bit more militant in the real world.

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14. Comment #109723 by Cartomancer on January 9, 2008 at 2:58 pm

 avatarGo Evan Harris! I knew I voted for him as my MP for a reason...

Ironically both he and Rowan Williams are alumni of my college at Oxford, Wadham. I can remember one occasion when they were both invited to dine at high table and the warden rather wisely decided to put them at opposite ends...

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15. Comment #109727 by quill on January 9, 2008 at 3:01 pm

 avatarWas Lord Scarman some kind of parliamentary supervillain?

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16. Comment #109735 by steveroot on January 9, 2008 at 3:21 pm

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1. Comment #109662 by Devolution on January 9, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Great! Now you Brits can say "Suck my balls God" just like us Yanks say in the states. Give it a try, it feels good.

What ever happened to the "Suck it, Jesus!" campaign? And would that be legal in the UK?
Steve

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17. Comment #109759 by Vaal on January 9, 2008 at 4:15 pm

 avatarGood news, and not before time. Who would ever think that in the 21st Century, there would still be such anachronistic asinine laws in modern day Britain. Nice to see some good news for a change. Perhaps the zeitgeist really is changing.

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18. Comment #109762 by kaiserkriss on January 9, 2008 at 4:22 pm

 avatarIt's about high time such ancient violations of basic human rights (blasphemy) gets taken off the books everywhere, together with the literally thousands of other outdated pieces of legislation than are still on the books and rule our world today. Hope it passes in the UK and shows the way to the rest of the world.

Along the same lines, is it still illegal to call the reigning monarch a prick?

My proposal: for every new law that gets enacted, one of the outdated ones should be taken off the books. Is it any wonder, even lawyers have to hire "expert" lawyers to defend them? What is the average person with an IQ of 100 supposed to do.

Not everybody is as smart as the contributors to this site. That's a joke by the way...jcw

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19. Comment #109764 by Radesq on January 9, 2008 at 4:26 pm

 avatarInteresting that we don't have such a thing in Puritan USA. If you are being honest over there in Britain is this action (to remove legal protection for religion) made more possible by rationalism or by a growing Muslim population? Go ahead and shoot the messenger if you will, I think it is worth arguing. Also "tabling" an amendment in the USA essentially means killing it. Funny isn't it?

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20. Comment #109770 by Crazymalc on January 9, 2008 at 4:37 pm

 avatarWhat is interesting about this is that they are legalizing "sin'.

Maybe the Catholic Church could take not and relax it stance on condoms.

Because, of course, promoting sex outside of marriage is sin and sin in bad.

Much worse than AIDS, war and famine

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21. Comment #109785 by drcancerman on January 9, 2008 at 5:33 pm

 avatarI wish I could say "God, suck my sweet hairy balls!" in Brazil, but there, you can get punished for criticizing or to say "bad things" about god... yeah, there's an ONG there who doesn't like me for that!

Thankfully I live in UK :) and there's the 29J law and then there is the abolition of the blasphemy law... I'm so...happy!

I'll give and serve Britain 'till my death, and yes, I will become a British citizen ...sometime this year or next year...

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22. Comment #109789 by Don_Quix on January 9, 2008 at 5:56 pm

 avatarGood luck getting this silly law abolished. I'm actually kind of surprised that such a thing still exists in the UK. It almost seems like everyone just kind of forgot about it until recently.

I don't think any kind of "blasphemy" law like this could ever pass legal muster in the US for the same reason that British-style libel laws would never fly in the US...the first amendment.

Of course, with the amount of power that has been grabbed by the federal government in the past 60+ years, there's always a chance some crazy president *coughuckabeecough* could declare a "national emergency" and try to impose his vision of a theocratic utopia. But I also suspect that this may be exactly why the amendment regarding the right to bear arms was placed immediately after the one about the freedom of speech in our constitutional bill of rights ;)

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23. Comment #109861 by urn on January 10, 2008 at 12:55 am

threespeed, that documentary you just linked to pissed me off to no end.

The thought that certain religious people are so willing to circumvent the right of free speech.... gahhh!!! Completely unacceptable!!!

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24. Comment #109870 by davorg on January 10, 2008 at 1:17 am

 avatarThe BBC have a story (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7178439.stm) explaining what happened in the debate.

The Justice Minister, Maria Eagle, said that the government has "every sympathy" with the case for abolishing the blasphemy laws and has promised a "short and sharp" consultation with the Church of England which is likely to be followed by a government amendment to remove the laws. On the basis of this, Dr Harris withdrew his amendment.

You can read the full debate on TheyWorkForYou at http://www.theyworkforyou.com/debates/?id=2008-01-09a.437.4 (hmm, not sure why that URL hasn't been recognised and automatically made clickable - there might be a bug in the URL recognition regex).

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25. Comment #109932 by BNCbright on January 10, 2008 at 4:51 am

 avatardavorg: "has promised a "short and sharp" consultation with the Church of England"

Why bother?

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26. Comment #109936 by Eventhorizon on January 10, 2008 at 4:57 am

 avatarThis always seemed to me like one of those laws that was still officially on the books but would never be used to prosecute anyone. Its in the same league as the treason laws. Its doubtful anyone in their right mind would want to call too much attention to these laws for fear of opening up debate and getting a good public mauling over them.

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27. Comment #109949 by Steinsky on January 10, 2008 at 6:23 am

 avatarI wrote about this yesterday, because it turns out that there are people who oppose the law being repealed because of "the signal it would send".

It's not that suprising that this is still on the books -- all sorts of old laws get forgotten. I was rather suprised to discover how many countries (and not just the usual Islamicist suspects) have such laws -- many of them far stricter and better enforced than our own. South Africa I thought was a rather bizarre one, what with their famously liberal constitution.

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28. Comment #110005 by Matt7895 on January 10, 2008 at 9:27 am

 avatarI am reading Dr. Harris speech now. My heart swelled when he mentioned the good Professor as one of the signatories of the Telegraph letter:

"Professor Richard Dawkins, who is well known and admired by many of us"

Shine on Harris, you legend.

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29. Comment #110063 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on January 10, 2008 at 12:32 pm

 avatarThe debate with theists across the globe continues:-) For those of you who have had your fill of "atheism sucks", try some of other links at the top of the thread.

Or just browse the thread for the meaty arguments. There is some good stuff in there:-)


http://richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=33112&p=602964#p602964

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30. Comment #110069 by sent2null on January 10, 2008 at 12:45 pm

 avatarGreat news, hope the law is rescinded as it deserves. I am sure that there are similar antiques written in to the law books of several American states that probably also need to be purged.

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31. Comment #110070 by al-rawandi on January 10, 2008 at 12:48 pm

 avatarsent2null,

I don't remember which state, but there is a law that states if there are more than 3 or 4 Indians on your property you can shoot them.

And I am not talking the Subcontinental ones.

You can look up crazy laws online.

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32. Comment #110246 by MelM on January 10, 2008 at 5:20 pm

I think getting rid of the Blasphemy law is a great idea. I you don't think so, check out what might be the consequences. An Old Testament-Blasphemer Stoned story from the Brick Testament should make the point clear.

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33. Comment #110349 by bamboospitfire on January 11, 2008 at 2:57 am

 avatarFrom the BBC site. Very, very well said, sir.

Nicholas Hytner, told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "What we have now is essentially a secular country based on a common bond of decency which includes free speech.

"And free speech includes the expectation that there should be mutual respect between those with different beliefs.

"And I don't believe that the law should address what people believe. The blasphemy laws protect belief; they don't protect people."

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34. Comment #110636 by mjwemdee on January 11, 2008 at 5:18 pm

 avatarA lawyer friend of mine tells me that there is still a law on the statute books that says that every true-born Englishman must, in defence of the nation, practice his archery skills at least once a year - I think New Year's Day was the traditional time for this. If this is true, I have to say I have been terribly remiss in my duty as a UK citizen...

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35. Comment #110745 by mrjonno on January 12, 2008 at 9:03 am

If god wants to sue for libel he should turn up in court like everyone else!

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36. Comment #110850 by greenius on January 13, 2008 at 3:11 am

mjwemdee, I don't think you need to worry about being arrested for your lack of duty as a UK citizen, http://www.archery.mysaga.net/archlaws.html indicates that the archery law was probably repealed in 1863 or 1960.

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37. Comment #110856 by crabsallover on January 13, 2008 at 4:18 am

 avatarI wrote to my MP (Desmond Swayne, New Forest) after National Secular Society and British Humanist Association emailed asking us to write to our MP.

I've followed the story here: http://hassers.blogspot.com/search/label/blasphemy

Desmond Swayne MP wrote two letters to me saying that he had sponsored the amendment to abolish the offence of blasphemy (along with 75 other MPs).

Evan Harris MP and Keith Porteus Wood of NSS, amongst others, deserve praise.

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38. Comment #110878 by Serious on January 13, 2008 at 6:04 am

So the law didn't pass; not, defeated, just delayed. There is still time for a grand spectacle!

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39. Comment #110879 by posiedon on January 13, 2008 at 6:19 am

 avatarDoesn't the blasphemy law go against the European bill of human rights? And as such MUST go.
Also as has been said on these boards before, "blasphemy is a victimless crime"

Off topic, an interesting article here by the "wee flea"
http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/scotland?articleid=3667427#2368648
[Wee Free maverick wants to ditch 'doom and gloom' image]

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