










Banned From Church
Half an hour later, 71-year-old Karolyn Caskey, a church member for nearly 50 years who had taught Sunday school and regularly donated 10% of her pension, was led out by a state trooper and a county sheriff's officer. One held her purse and Bible. The other put her in handcuffs. (Listen to the 911 call)
Amy Hitt, 43, a mortgage officer in Amissville, Va., was voted out of her Baptist congregation in 2004 for gossiping about her pastor's plans to buy a bigger house. Her ouster was especially hard on her twin sons, now 12 years old, who had made friends in the church, she says. "Some people have looked past it, but then there are others who haven't," says Ms. Hitt, who believes the episode cost her a seat on the school board last year; she lost by 42 votes.2. Comment #115007 by Colwyn Abernathy on January 23, 2008 at 12:19 pm
3. Comment #115014 by PJG on January 23, 2008 at 12:27 pm
4. Comment #115016 by irate_atheist on January 23, 2008 at 12:28 pm
It would be nice if this experience would make Mrs. Caskey realize it's all a crock.I doubt it will, however. After all, with her statement that:
"I don't intend to abandon that church," Mrs. Caskey says. "I feel like I have every right to be there."She shows herself to be a true
5. Comment #115018 by Deepthought on January 23, 2008 at 12:34 pm
Thou shalt not kill
6. Comment #115019 by Lithium_joe on January 23, 2008 at 12:34 pm
7. Comment #115027 by Paula Kirby on January 23, 2008 at 12:41 pm
8. Comment #115031 by notsobad on January 23, 2008 at 12:46 pm
9. Comment #115035 by home8896 on January 23, 2008 at 12:51 pm
10. Comment #115036 by Prankster on January 23, 2008 at 12:52 pm
11. Comment #115037 by Verylee on January 23, 2008 at 12:53 pm
12. Comment #115042 by Prankster on January 23, 2008 at 12:59 pm
13. Comment #115049 by jdb on January 23, 2008 at 1:18 pm
14. Comment #115054 by jdb on January 23, 2008 at 1:22 pm
15. Comment #115069 by shemp333 on January 23, 2008 at 1:40 pm
16. Comment #115070 by ksskidude on January 23, 2008 at 1:40 pm
17. Comment #115073 by brian_d_w on January 23, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Fantastic! All this kind of behavior will do is weaken the church going community. Keep up the good work guys.18. Comment #115075 by scottishgeologist on January 23, 2008 at 1:49 pm
19. Comment #115081 by Double Bass Atheist on January 23, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Others point to a passage in the gospel of Matthew that says unrepentant sinners must be shunned.
20. Comment #115084 by PJG on January 23, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Thou shalt not kill
I brought this up with a "biblical literalist" because he supports war and he says that it is "Thou shalt not murder"
I wonder how this changes matters and what translation he is looking at?
21. Comment #115085 by al-rawandi on January 23, 2008 at 2:17 pm
22. Comment #115090 by theantitheist on January 23, 2008 at 2:31 pm
I think this clearly demonstrates that Atheists have more morals then the religious. If a little old women gave me 10% of her earnings and sold her car for me, oh and paid my electricity bill when i was a bit strapped, i would always let her sit on a hard bench and listen to what ever crap she liked be it Terry Wogan or Pope John Paul Ringo George III, let her gossip away and feel smug in herself with no harrasement what so ever. I suppose i'm just that kind.23. Comment #115092 by CambrianExplosion on January 23, 2008 at 2:34 pm
24. Comment #115097 by notsobad on January 23, 2008 at 2:40 pm
I think this clearly demonstrates that Atheists have more morals then the religious.
25. Comment #115101 by Deepthought on January 23, 2008 at 2:52 pm
26. Comment #115102 by Steve Zara on January 23, 2008 at 2:58 pm
What would happen if an atheist was converted to religion? Would they retain the atheism inspired morals?
27. Comment #115106 by Deepthought on January 23, 2008 at 3:05 pm
28. Comment #115108 by Corylus on January 23, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Out of curiosity how would you approach an atheist who has converted to christianity?
29. Comment #115114 by Steve Zara on January 23, 2008 at 3:27 pm
Out of curiosity how would you approach an atheist who has converted to christianity?
[Edit: sorry Steve, on rereading, - think that question was directed to you - but I can't help interrupting sometimes]
30. Comment #115117 by Lycosid on January 23, 2008 at 3:31 pm
It would appear that we reap what we sow.31. Comment #115118 by Deepthought on January 23, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Out of curiosity how would you approach an atheist who has converted to christianity?
Bewilderment.
32. Comment #115124 by 82abhilash on January 23, 2008 at 3:43 pm
Deepthought if you are talking about Francis Collins, I think I can explain. Collins was a default atheist. He decided to become a scientist, and serious scientists where atheists, so he decided to be one.
25. Comment #115101 by Deepthought on January 23, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Out of curiosity how would you approach an atheist who has converted to christianity?
33. Comment #115128 by gyokusai on January 23, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Once, when the congregation voted out an adulterer who refused to repent, an older woman was confused and thought the church had voted to send the man to hell.
Deepthought sez:
I brought this up with a "biblical literalist" because he supports war and he says that it is "Thou shalt not murder"
I wonder how this changes matters and what translation he is looking at?
34. Comment #115129 by mmurray on January 23, 2008 at 4:04 pm
After that, the county prosecutor dismissed the charge and told county law enforcement not to arrest her again unless she was creating a disturbance.
35. Comment #115134 by Corylus on January 23, 2008 at 4:15 pm
36. Comment #115148 by MelM on January 23, 2008 at 5:02 pm
With holy men issuing punishment against sinners and opponents, I think we're seeing what a "Christian Nation" with the wall of separation broken will look like. Not satisfied with respect for their b.s., these drivelers now are asserting power to mess around in peoples lives. This is a rather serious development.37. Comment #115168 by babrock on January 23, 2008 at 5:32 pm
It strikes me as a great idea. They are carying their smug arogent pomposity to the next logcal level therefor showing more their true colors.38. Comment #115228 by Celandine on January 23, 2008 at 7:02 pm
He did say that while the church does not "blacklist" anyone, a strict reading of the Bible requires pastors to punish disobedient members.
39. Comment #115290 by Logicel on January 24, 2008 at 12:08 am
40. Comment #115293 by Smith on January 24, 2008 at 12:37 am
41. Comment #115309 by Tyler Durden on January 24, 2008 at 1:42 am
The charge was trespassing, but Mrs. Caskey's real offense, in her pastor's view, was spiritual. Several months earlier, when she had questioned his authority, he'd charged her with spreading "a spirit of cancer and discord" and expelled her from the congregation.They called the cops for this? And the cops actually answered the call? Idiots!
42. Comment #115311 by yanco on January 24, 2008 at 1:48 am
43. Comment #115319 by hungarianelephant on January 24, 2008 at 2:20 am
44. Comment #115322 by GordonH on January 24, 2008 at 2:31 am
45. Comment #115359 by GBile on January 24, 2008 at 5:01 am
... included adultery, drunkenness and refusal to honor church elders
46. Comment #115436 by jimbob on January 24, 2008 at 7:40 am
Wonder if Ted Haggard ever "disciplined" members of his congregation?47. Comment #115437 by irate_atheist on January 24, 2008 at 7:43 am
48. Comment #115489 by GoneGolfing on January 24, 2008 at 8:40 am
49. Comment #115515 by Erik on January 24, 2008 at 9:22 am
You really have to wonder about someone who accuses some poor old lady of being "guilty of idolatry". Seriously, idolatry? Like the woman is secretly worshipping a statute of Baal or something. It's as suspicious as someone regularly using the word "for" instead of "because", or the phrase "at hand" to mean "happening soon". Just grow up and leave the stupid phraseology behind.50. Comment #115535 by notsobad on January 24, 2008 at 9:49 am
I can't stand it when these dickwad pastors cherrypick scriptures
1. Comment #115004 by Lana on January 23, 2008 at 12:16 pm
That makes no sense from a marketing standpoint. The church had been down to 12 members and it's kicking people out? And people who contribute 10% of their income?It would be nice if this experience would make Mrs. Caskey realize it's all a crock.
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