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3. Comment #137282 by steveroot on March 2, 2008 at 3:43 pm
1. Comment #137249 by Deepthought on March 2, 2008 at 2:58 pm
I wonder what will happen to this statistic when my generation gets out of school? (I'm 14)
4. Comment #137283 by emmet on March 2, 2008 at 3:44 pm
Here's hoping natural selection prunes out the really stupid ideas...
5. Comment #137290 by Bruno on March 2, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Excellent article.6. Comment #137293 by digitalia on March 2, 2008 at 3:56 pm
7. Comment #137295 by BigJohn on March 2, 2008 at 3:57 pm
8. Comment #137309 by 4horsefins on March 2, 2008 at 4:16 pm
I think the atheist movement has caused a significant reduction in fundamentalism. I live in the bible belt of the US and this is what I see. The vast majority still hold on to their God belief, but it is a watered down version where God and evolution co-exist. "Yes we evolved, but God did that too."9. Comment #137310 by LorienRyan on March 2, 2008 at 4:17 pm
10. Comment #137314 by Frankus1122 on March 2, 2008 at 4:24 pm
looks like it's time to renew my ROM membership! :)
11. Comment #137324 by notsobad on March 2, 2008 at 4:46 pm
This is not to say that there is no God (and Darwin never suggested so), only that the idea of God itself must be rethought in a post-Darwinian world.
12. Comment #137334 by jo5ef on March 2, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Its unfortunate that an article that appears to support Darwins ideas contains the pharase "surely this is why God created computers"13. Comment #137371 by cal_mertes on March 2, 2008 at 6:11 pm
A general question ---14. Comment #137407 by lievemebe on March 2, 2008 at 8:03 pm
"As to why Darwins ideas are so scary, i have said it before , but i think it comes down to hating the idea that we evolved form apes and are therefore apes ourselves. Many if not most people are really uncomfortable with where that line of thinking leads."15. Comment #137432 by pkruger on March 2, 2008 at 8:44 pm
I think I'm going to scream.16. Comment #137434 by LorienRyan on March 2, 2008 at 9:00 pm
17. Comment #137437 by Eric Blair on March 2, 2008 at 9:28 pm
pkruger: on "begging the question."18. Comment #137446 by Teratornis on March 2, 2008 at 10:12 pm
19. Comment #137447 by Teratornis on March 2, 2008 at 10:15 pm
I'm amazed how many times I see posters in here commit this faux pas, in the print media, and on the radio--and what amazes me is that it gets by editors who I presume are defenders of proper use of the English language.
20. Comment #137448 by MaxD on March 2, 2008 at 10:23 pm
21. Comment #137466 by emmet on March 3, 2008 at 12:29 am
I wonder what will happen to this statistic when my generation gets out of school? (I'm 14)
22. Comment #137467 by Steve Zara on March 3, 2008 at 12:34 am
It will be nice when computers pass the Turing test. Then it's possible language will stop evolving the stupid way.
23. Comment #137514 by The Flying Trilobite on March 3, 2008 at 3:25 am
24. Comment #137528 by GBile on March 3, 2008 at 4:53 am
Maybe, just maybe, the 'getting dumber of America' is a good thing. It might even be evolution at work.25. Comment #137530 by black wolf on March 3, 2008 at 5:12 am
Unless, of course, the margin of ignorance between the US and Bulgaria and Slovenia widens, which isn't impossible: in 1993, the Iron Curtain had recently fallen and both were former Communist countries. Now, both are members of the EU and (in all likelihood) benefiting from EU structural and cohesion funds, which could plausibly lead to better education in these countries. I don't see much that encourages me to believe that education might have improved in the US since 1993.
26. Comment #137531 by Kell on March 3, 2008 at 5:12 am
this is why God created computers - Jurassic Park
27. Comment #137533 by black wolf on March 3, 2008 at 5:19 am
Religious people breeding profusely 'for Jezus or Allah' will eventually mean less science, less advanced technology, prayer instead of medicine and so on.
28. Comment #137536 by DeLan on March 3, 2008 at 5:22 am
"begs the question" - No, it raises the question.29. Comment #137540 by VanYoungman on March 3, 2008 at 5:33 am
30. Comment #137542 by padster1976 on March 3, 2008 at 5:39 am
31. Comment #137559 by phasmagigas on March 3, 2008 at 6:42 am
32. Comment #137563 by bamafreethinker on March 3, 2008 at 6:57 am
33. Comment #137578 by ridelo on March 3, 2008 at 8:02 am
jo5ef:"As to why Darwins ideas are so scary, i have said it before , but i think it comes down to hating the idea that we evolved from apes and are therefore apes ourselves. Many if not most people are really uncomfortable with where that line of thinking leads."
34. Comment #137744 by PJG on March 3, 2008 at 12:30 pm
35. Comment #137746 by Goldy on March 3, 2008 at 12:35 pm
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=82&objectid=1049594036. Comment #138084 by jwdink on March 3, 2008 at 10:02 pm
Damnit. Don't say "begs the question" unless you're referring to the logical fallacy!37. Comment #138087 by Teratornis on March 3, 2008 at 10:15 pm
I suspect that the only way that computers will pass the Turing test is to have them join in the stupid way.
It is worth noting that the Turing test is not that accurate anyway. In recent competitions for the Loebner Prize (awarded based on quality of attempts to pass the test), some of the human controls failed ...
38. Comment #138090 by Bonzai on March 3, 2008 at 10:27 pm
If you have ever visited an internet sex chat room you may realize that it is not very difficult to write a short program that would pass the Turing test if the judges are a bunch of horny men.39. Comment #138093 by Teratornis on March 3, 2008 at 10:44 pm
Teratornis, teratornis
you can always be counted on for that can't you.
40. Comment #138211 by PJG on March 4, 2008 at 4:18 am
41. Comment #138279 by Opisthokont on March 4, 2008 at 6:18 am
Re: #5 --... America is in serious decline, or if it continues on present track, will be very soon.
Perhaps only then will America wake up to the importance and value of a science education and how it translates or delivers values back to the society at large.
42. Comment #138380 by mikecbraun on March 4, 2008 at 8:54 am
43. Comment #138454 by Teratornis on March 4, 2008 at 11:13 am
Gosh, you don't mean to say that, maybe, the extra runway at Heathrow (to be opened in about 10 years) might be, well, not a good idea then?!
Maybe we should tell our imbecilic (UK) government?
The sarcasm is not aimed at you, Teratornis,
but at the people making these sorts of decisions who are either
a) totally incompetent
b) burying their heads so far into the sand that their noses are getting burned by the central core
c) pretending things are going to carry on the way they have been because the riots and mayhem that would result from them being honest would be out of their control
d) they think being honest would lose them votes
e) all of the above?
Any other suggestions?
(I think the answer is "e".)
44. Comment #138457 by al-rawandi on March 4, 2008 at 11:18 am
45. Comment #138472 by Teratornis on March 4, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Tera,
You should really copyright these publications of yours.
46. Comment #139064 by PJG on March 5, 2008 at 5:12 am
47. Comment #139068 by PJG on March 5, 2008 at 5:15 am
1. Comment #137249 by Deepthought on March 2, 2008 at 2:58 pm
I don't think the creationists have tried to get evolution out of schools for a while. Now they are busy citing the "teach both sides" in order to smuggle it in and create conflict where none exists.
This is the best statistic yet "In 1993, an international social survey ranked Americans last -- behind Bulgaria and Slovenia-- in knowledge of the basic facts of evolution."
I wonder what will happen to this statistic when my generation gets out of school? (I'm 14)
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