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Uh oh, this new book takes on the dreaded New Atheists in a way not done before! Maybe by addressing the actual arguments, avoiding logical fallacies, and presenting good arguments and evidence?3. Comment #137969 by Steve Zara on March 3, 2008 at 5:02 pm
4. Comment #137970 by Inferno on March 3, 2008 at 5:02 pm
5. Comment #137974 by Geoff on March 3, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Philip Law, academic editor and U.K./E.U. publishing director for Westminster John Knox, sought out John Haught, professor of science and religion at Georgetown University, to write God and the New Atheism, published in December. "As far as I know," Law says, "there have not been any credible responses to all of these 'new atheists.'"
6. Comment #137975 by Diacanu on March 3, 2008 at 5:08 pm
7. Comment #137977 by Diacanu on March 3, 2008 at 5:14 pm
Letter to a Secular Culture, described as "a well-reasoned case for the many benefits of faith."
8. Comment #137978 by HourglassMemory on March 3, 2008 at 5:15 pm
My God! These are Trekies who mean business!9. Comment #137981 by Radesq on March 3, 2008 at 5:28 pm
10. Comment #137984 by Cartomancer on March 3, 2008 at 5:43 pm
11. Comment #137985 by Dr Benway on March 3, 2008 at 5:45 pm
Hachette published Hitchens's God Is Not Great through its Twelve imprint, which led FaithWords, another Hachette house, to want to respond.Conflict pays, baby.
12. Comment #137986 by SPS on March 3, 2008 at 5:46 pm
Steve,13. Comment #137990 by robert s on March 3, 2008 at 5:56 pm
How to Be a Good Atheist explains the five types of atheism14. Comment #137993 by Goldy on March 3, 2008 at 6:03 pm
Henry VIII was an early flea :-) He did it for...hmmm, why did he do it? Anyway, didn;t help him much - the pope wouldn't let him divorce and look how all that ended up!15. Comment #138002 by Gymnopedie on March 3, 2008 at 6:14 pm
I think a huge part of the faith crowd simply sees faith as an integral part of a healthy life and see an attack on faith at best mean-spirited and at worst a dangerous subversion of society. The next wave of arguments should shift to the benefits of persisting in reality based thinking instead of delusion, regardless of the so-called benefits of faith.16. Comment #138008 by NormanDoering on March 3, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Steve Zara wrote:I am currently researching and writing a review of Vox Day's book, ...
17. Comment #138010 by LorienRyan on March 3, 2008 at 6:31 pm
18. Comment #138020 by Diacanu on March 3, 2008 at 6:41 pm
19. Comment #138025 by Diacanu on March 3, 2008 at 6:52 pm
That's it in a nutshell. It doesn't matter how it makes you feel. Is it true is what matters.
20. Comment #138026 by jonjermey on March 3, 2008 at 6:52 pm
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win. I'd say we're entering Phase 3 now...21. Comment #138028 by Quine on March 3, 2008 at 6:53 pm
... there will be response books, and lots of them.
22. Comment #138041 by pkruger on March 3, 2008 at 7:50 pm
The only thing the flea authors are worried about is the potential millions of dollars believers will no longer dish out blindly to their local church/evangelist after they become non-believers.23. Comment #138047 by notsobad on March 3, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Blogger and political columnist Vox Day comes at the issues from a nontheological perspective in The Irrational Atheist (BenBella, Feb.), relying on factual evidence to counter atheist claims ... that the Bible and other sacred texts are unreliable and fictitious.
24. Comment #138051 by OverUsedChewToy on March 3, 2008 at 8:18 pm
25. Comment #138056 by WhoDatNinja on March 3, 2008 at 8:33 pm
So read a book, ANY book, and you've got a part of the case against religion in your hands already! The only way you can avoid it is to cease reading any more books at all!
26. Comment #138069 by dkv on March 3, 2008 at 8:51 pm
The needless debate is going to kill the reason of science... In many cases the rationalist apply the principle of "I dont know" but in the case of God.. they aggressively pull the defenceless God.27. Comment #138074 by MaxD on March 3, 2008 at 9:09 pm
The Delusion of Disbelief: Why the New Atheism Is a Threat to Your Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness
28. Comment #138099 by Teratornis on March 3, 2008 at 11:37 pm
Publishers generally agree that apologetics publishing will persist, but the trend of huge sales in the category may be dying. Zondervan's Delffs believes "the market is always open to authentic, well-written apologetics titles." Baugher says, "Apologetics will always be around, but there will be more titles and higher sales as long as contrary titles continue to sell well." HarperOne's Tauber doesn't think there are "many more huge books left in the category." Says Anfuso at Free Press, "You have to examine these books much closer now, sales-wise, because there are so many. It's a topic that will continue, but it can't sustain these huge sales. It's not going to become perennial, like diet books." BenBella publisher Glenn Yeffeth believes that as the political climate changes, particularly if a more liberal presidential candidate is elected, the chorus will die down.
29. Comment #138112 by Diacanu on March 4, 2008 at 12:36 am
30. Comment #138114 by LorienRyan on March 4, 2008 at 12:44 am
31. Comment #138115 by JemyM on March 4, 2008 at 12:44 am
32. Comment #138132 by Justanotheratheist on March 4, 2008 at 1:24 am
I have to agree with Diacanu's view that the internet has done a great deal to strip away the bullshit of belief. I had never thought of it in those terms before, but no other invention has allowed the free exchange of ideas on such a scale as the WWW.33. Comment #138133 by PJG on March 4, 2008 at 1:28 am
34. Comment #138137 by robotaholic on March 4, 2008 at 1:36 am
35. Comment #138140 by Mitchell Gilks on March 4, 2008 at 1:38 am
36. Comment #138141 by robotaholic on March 4, 2008 at 1:43 am
HarperOne's Tauber doesn't think there are "many more huge books left in the category." -
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37. Comment #138142 by clodhopper on March 4, 2008 at 1:46 am
38. Comment #138149 by irate_atheist on March 4, 2008 at 2:00 am
39. Comment #138155 by hungarianelephant on March 4, 2008 at 2:15 am
Chris Hedges, a war correspondent and graduate of Harvard Divinity School, believes that evolution alone can't make us goodâ€"we need to believe in something. In I Don't Believe in Atheists (Free Press, Mar.), Hedges equates the new atheists to the fundamentalist believers they critique and suggests that they're just as dangerous. Dominick Anfuso, v-p and editorial director, says, "Hedges attacks the atheists as being as dogmatic, if not more so, than what they're criticizing. Based on his experience as a war correspondent, he takes on their worldview, the idea that we are capable of spiritual improvement. Hedges says we're clearly not progressing morally as a species."
40. Comment #138158 by Corylus on March 4, 2008 at 2:28 am
Is this the same Chris Hedges who posted here on the leprechology thread, and was told by revcort that he was on the slippery slope to a worse hell than mere atheists?
41. Comment #138159 by Steve Zara on March 4, 2008 at 2:30 am
The insecurity rises...Blogger and political columnist Vox Day comes at the issues from a nontheological perspective in The Irrational Atheist (BenBella, Feb.), relying on factual evidence to counter atheist claims ...
42. Comment #138160 by Nefrubyr on March 4, 2008 at 2:30 am
Inclusive publisher O Books offers God Without God: Western Spirituality Without the Wrathful King (June) by former Church of England priest Michael Hampson, arguing that "the God the atheist denies is not the God that people of true faith affirm," according to the book's description.
43. Comment #138162 by irate_atheist on March 4, 2008 at 2:37 am
44. Comment #138165 by Clapton_is_God on March 4, 2008 at 2:43 am
45. Comment #138167 by hungarianelephant on March 4, 2008 at 2:51 am
46. Comment #138172 by Steve Zara on March 4, 2008 at 3:01 am
We deny all gods.
47. Comment #138173 by Logicel on March 4, 2008 at 3:04 am
48. Comment #138178 by PJG on March 4, 2008 at 3:16 am
49. Comment #138181 by AshtonBlack on March 4, 2008 at 3:19 am
In not more than your own words, write a condensed version of all the flea books (marks will be deducted for any pretence that any of them contain evidence):
"There is a God because I say so and people who don't agree are horrid. So there!"
50. Comment #138183 by Corylus on March 4, 2008 at 3:22 am
1. Comment #137962 by maton100 on March 3, 2008 at 4:51 pm
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