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3. Comment #200516 by PristinePanda on June 27, 2008 at 7:11 pm
4. Comment #200517 by Nick6742 on June 27, 2008 at 7:12 pm
5. Comment #200522 by julianstirling on June 27, 2008 at 7:31 pm
Make a blank screened video with it as the soundtrack and put it on YouTube? Easy enough with windows movie maker, but would have to do it in 10 minute segments.6. Comment #200524 by Enlightenme.. on June 27, 2008 at 7:45 pm
7. Comment #200537 by 35bluejacket on June 27, 2008 at 8:33 pm
If it is true; that the most sane person is a person devoid of delusion, then why don't these learned psychiatrists see this? Have they been that poorly taught? Is our education system that bad?8. Comment #200538 by TeraBrat on June 27, 2008 at 8:34 pm
"Yet we find that psychiatrists are at the same time the least religious physicians and the physicians most comfortable addressing patients' spiritual concerns."
9. Comment #200540 by mordacious1 on June 27, 2008 at 8:44 pm
If the god-stuff really worked, why would these people need to turn to psychiatrists?10. Comment #200541 by justwondering on June 27, 2008 at 8:44 pm
11. Comment #200542 by mordacious1 on June 27, 2008 at 8:47 pm
Dr.: So what do you think about god?12. Comment #200546 by TeraBrat on June 27, 2008 at 9:03 pm
Both.13. Comment #200547 by Herbert on June 27, 2008 at 9:15 pm
I would rather be depressed than deluded.14. Comment #200555 by Dr Benway on June 27, 2008 at 9:51 pm
15. Comment #200557 by mordacious1 on June 27, 2008 at 10:08 pm
Boy, tough crowd tonight.16. Comment #200558 by TeraBrat on June 27, 2008 at 10:12 pm
mordacious1,17. Comment #200567 by epeeist on June 27, 2008 at 10:51 pm
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me...To complete the joke for those who don't know it.
18. Comment #200568 by black wolf on June 27, 2008 at 11:05 pm
19. Comment #200571 by HAMMERHEAD on June 27, 2008 at 11:13 pm
This very disconcerting to me. On one hand, it seems obvious that religion and the belief thereof is a serious problem and can be very damaging to the psyche. On the other hand, it seems that psychiatrists are trying to encourage religion as a band-aid to overcome symptoms of deeper issues. That scenario sounds like the makings of a vicious cycle (Maybe if I just got more involved in the church and fully surrender myself to Jesus, then I'll really be happy...).20. Comment #200579 by black wolf on June 27, 2008 at 11:43 pm
21. Comment #200583 by Nick6742 on June 28, 2008 at 12:08 am
22. Comment #200644 by Enlightenme.. on June 28, 2008 at 2:53 am
23. Comment #200660 by Pyllyri on June 28, 2008 at 3:45 am
@Nick674224. Comment #200667 by mmurray on June 28, 2008 at 4:02 am
The results "surprised us," said Curlin. "Among physicians in general, those who are less religious are generally less likely to believe it is appropriate to discuss spiritual issues," he noted. "Yet we find that psychiatrists are at the same time the least religious physicians and the physicians most comfortable addressing patients' spiritual concerns."
25. Comment #200673 by steveroot on June 28, 2008 at 4:42 am
14. Comment #200555 by Dr Benway on June 27, 2008 at 9:51 pm
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me...
17. Comment #200567 by epeeist on June 27, 2008 at 10:51 pm
...Than a pre-frontal lobotomy.
I'd rather have a free bottle in front of me
than a pre-frontal lobotomy..
26. Comment #200700 by Nick6742 on June 28, 2008 at 6:10 am
27. Comment #200707 by Herbert on June 28, 2008 at 6:22 am
Nick, you made me proud. Sounds like you will make a wonderful physician.28. Comment #200713 by Mathesis on June 28, 2008 at 6:32 am
The main benefit of religion on mental heath has nothing to do with the specifics of the belief or whether or not the person believes in God. It has more to do with shared values within a social context which offers the psychological support of feeling connected with other human beings. Also, and generally speaking, having any principles, perspective, values, world view can help you (as opposed to having nothing in your head). It does not matter if you believe in god or not. Atheist Buddhists get the same benefit from their religion.29. Comment #200776 by moderndaythomas on June 28, 2008 at 8:22 am
Almost all physicians agreed that religion and spirituality often give patients a positive, hopeful state of mind. More than 75 percent of psychiatrists and non-psychiatrist agreed that religion "often or always" helps patients cope with their illnesses.
30. Comment #200783 by Bonzai on June 28, 2008 at 8:33 am
Nick6742I can put it on rapidshare, but that isn't the friendliest of sites.
31. Comment #200785 by moderndaythomas on June 28, 2008 at 8:39 am
"several recent studies have found that religiosity is often associated with improved mental health outcomes such as quicker recovery from depression. Now most training programs teach developing psychiatrists about the potentially beneficial influence of religion and spirituality on patients' mental health."
32. Comment #200791 by Bonzai on June 28, 2008 at 8:45 am
So why are some of us so dismissive of the notion that religion may have some utility and try so desperately to refute it? Indeed some of the posts above,--and reactions from some atheists whenever the topic comes up,-- can only be described as desperate.33. Comment #200798 by Bonzai on June 28, 2008 at 8:49 am
My point is this. Are the religious then more likely to consult a psychiatrist than the agnostic or atheist?
Are they more needy and misguided?
Are they the more likely to seek others to guide them?
I think that the answer would most probably be yes.
34. Comment #200800 by monoape on June 28, 2008 at 8:52 am
35. Comment #200803 by Bonzai on June 28, 2008 at 8:53 am
How is it possible that someone can get in to med school and not know something so fundamental to biology?
36. Comment #200807 by moderndaythomas on June 28, 2008 at 8:59 am
37. Comment #200812 by Border Collie on June 28, 2008 at 9:09 am
Psychs will use whatever path works to build rapport with their patients. Sometimes it's religion, sometimes it's not. But, religion is so pervasive, it's almost unavoidable. It could be any subject, however.38. Comment #200817 by Nick6742 on June 28, 2008 at 9:14 am
39. Comment #200881 by robsica on June 28, 2008 at 11:36 am
This is exactly as I would have expected. Instead of wasting time engaging the superficiality of the doctrinal superstructure of their religious patients, a psychiatrist is typically going to be far more interested in the needs and interests involved that sustain it, regarding it as semiotics rather than substance.40. Comment #200885 by TeraBrat on June 28, 2008 at 11:44 am
Our curriculum (at Albany and throughout the US)is full of the evidence of evolution and the professors teach it appropriately. She and her ilk are willfully ignorant, they've been presented with the evidence and facts and have chosen to ignore them for superstition.
41. Comment #200903 by Nick6742 on June 28, 2008 at 12:38 pm
42. Comment #200908 by notsobad on June 28, 2008 at 12:53 pm
It makes perfect sense to me. Psychiatrists treat mental illnesses...
43. Comment #201015 by elad-usa on June 28, 2008 at 6:51 pm
Greetings, all. This is my first posting on this site, although I have been an avid reader here for quite some time now. And the first thing I'd like to say is: thank you all so much! This site, and others like it, have served as virtual life-lines to me for the past several years, and I am deeply grateful.44. Comment #201045 by jo5ef on June 28, 2008 at 9:18 pm
"several mental illnesses are known to be associated with hyper-religiosity"45. Comment #202802 by Hugo on July 2, 2008 at 2:39 am
46. Comment #204196 by Aztek on July 4, 2008 at 11:16 am
47. Comment #204307 by elad-usa on July 4, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Indeed, a most profound and fascinating point! Often it is like dealing with one delusion embedded within another delusion nested within yet another -- sort of like stepping "through the looking glass" (with all due respect and gratitude to Lewis Carroll), where the Red Queen happily states that on some days she's already believed 6 impossible things before breakfast!
1. Comment #200512 by 35bluejacket on June 27, 2008 at 6:52 pm
It makes me wonder how many psychiatrists have helped tarot card readers out of depression and back on the business road, or sharing the feelings about the refrigerator size diamond buried in the back yard. (S. Harris)Other Comments by 35bluejacket