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3. Comment #27375 by karlJ on March 24, 2007 at 9:22 am
4. Comment #27379 by davyB on March 24, 2007 at 9:52 am
KarlJ, I think I understand your question. I am thinking about how it might be tested, but nothing is immediately obvious.5. Comment #27381 by VanYoungman on March 24, 2007 at 10:08 am
6. Comment #27386 by karlJ on March 24, 2007 at 10:22 am
7. Comment #27387 by DavidMcC on March 24, 2007 at 10:25 am
8. Comment #27389 by davyB on March 24, 2007 at 10:52 am
Because we have three kinds of color receptors, our "color space" is three dimensional. Some brainy person - was Munsell the first? - hit upon a very useful and intuitive scheme that has coordinates called hue, value, and chroma. If we had four kinds of color receptors, our brains could probably learn to discriminate a four dimensional color space. The idea is not as bizarre as it might seem at first. We experience taste based on four or five kinds of sensors: bitter, sweet, sour, salty, and maybe you want to throw "hot" in there.9. Comment #27395 by karlJ on March 24, 2007 at 11:19 am
10. Comment #27396 by karlJ on March 24, 2007 at 11:29 am
11. Comment #27401 by ridelo on March 24, 2007 at 11:46 am
Could this mean that with some genetic tinkering we could learn to see see infrared or ultraviolet?12. Comment #27407 by Katana on March 24, 2007 at 12:29 pm
Will be interesting to see if this research can be used to help people with colour blindness.13. Comment #27408 by davyB on March 24, 2007 at 12:34 pm
KarlJ, I cannot pretend to answer your questions about the experience of color. Experience baffles me. Consciousness awes me. I look out my window and see the world, "in living color." I hear the voice of my own mind. I taste food and hear sounds and music. I presume your experiences are similar to mine. Beyond that, I just have to keep quiet.14. Comment #27416 by DavidMcC on March 24, 2007 at 1:05 pm
15. Comment #27417 by DavidMcC on March 24, 2007 at 1:11 pm
16. Comment #27419 by ridelo on March 24, 2007 at 1:21 pm
DavidMcC, why can bees see in the UV-range? Is it because they have smaller and dryer(?) eyes with less absorption in those wavelengths?17. Comment #27425 by DavidMcC on March 24, 2007 at 1:49 pm
18. Comment #27436 by karlJ on March 24, 2007 at 3:07 pm
19. Comment #27437 by karlJ on March 24, 2007 at 3:13 pm
20. Comment #27438 by PsyPro on March 24, 2007 at 3:13 pm
21. Comment #27442 by davyB on March 24, 2007 at 4:17 pm
PsyPro, why didn't I think of that? Do you know for a fact that mice retinas have the opponent process stuff built in? But then (thinks I), why wouldn't they?22. Comment #27487 by karlJ on March 25, 2007 at 1:08 am
23. Comment #27489 by DavidMcC on March 25, 2007 at 2:39 am
24. Comment #27494 by karlJ on March 25, 2007 at 3:04 am
25. Comment #27498 by karlJ on March 25, 2007 at 3:21 am
26. Comment #27506 by DavidMcC on March 25, 2007 at 4:27 am
27. Comment #27558 by TeapotInOrbit on March 25, 2007 at 9:25 am
28. Comment #27563 by karlJ on March 25, 2007 at 9:58 am
29. Comment #27565 by karlJ on March 25, 2007 at 10:06 am
30. Comment #27663 by DavidMcC on March 26, 2007 at 3:32 am
31. Comment #27668 by DavidMcC on March 26, 2007 at 4:00 am
32. Comment #27723 by Steven Mading on March 26, 2007 at 10:43 am
DavyB said: "Purple is not really a spectral color. It is true that some people see a faint band of violet at the far blue end of the rainbow. I don't think anyone knows for sure why that is."33. Comment #27822 by DavidMcC on March 27, 2007 at 1:23 am
34. Comment #107749 by the_ultimate_samurai on January 5, 2008 at 6:37 am
most interesting, to me the idea of a colour ive never seen is fascinating, perhaps slightly because it is so impossible to imagine. how do you imagine a colour you have never seen, what do you call it, how would others percieve it. the visual range of the human eye is about 1 octave, around the same octave of light that filters through our atmosphere, its totaly arbitrary, if i were an alien and on my planet gamma and x rays as well as our visual rays filtered through the atmosphere my eyes (and my cells) would be immune to their harmful effects and able to see them. to me, much of the world would look transluscent, like painted glass, light would reflect in colours no one else could imagine, it would seem normal to me, if i saw you i would think "cant you see that man over there" to which you would say "there is no one there" "look he is right there behind the wall" to which they may check and see it is true (or worse think you mad) but to you it would seem so obvious that there is someone there because you can see him and so madening that no one else can. when you look at something which looks black to someone else and see shades and hues of colour, you discribe them, but to your dismay no one can comprehend.35. Comment #107756 by sent2null on January 5, 2008 at 8:10 am
i predict some time in the future, a creature (probably a bird) will develop a sensory organ to detect radio waves. first off, they are relatively unique to this time, radio has existed on earth but was rather scarce, second, radio wave indicate the existence of radio towers and perhaps of power lines, thus for migratory birds the ability to fly towards sources of radio makes an evolutionary advantage (since power lines and towers have more area to perch than trees. and less predators)
thus it seems likely that a bird may develop a sense to detect radio (not to mention perhaps the ability for something akin to natural radar though i believe that requires the source to be the person percieving it...so maybe not radar..)
but then again, im still waiting for animals to evolve the knowlege to avoid cars...that may be just as likely eh?
36. Comment #107974 by the_ultimate_samurai on January 5, 2008 at 5:51 pm
well the detection would be much like any form of light, in fact it doesnt need to be a certain frequency because the bird isnt trying to listen to the oldies...just find the source. it would have the advantage with each step of making the bird more capable of finding a telephone wire or radio tower to perch on (as i said these have less predators, and more perch area than trees, that is a selective force alone, birds already do this) the device would only have to detect the EXISTANCE and INTENSITY of radio waves (and would take probably a two antenae array, much like an insect has) in order to navigate towards it.37. Comment #108188 by sent2null on January 6, 2008 at 8:01 am
well the detection would be much like any form of light, in fact it doesnt need to be a certain frequency because the bird isnt trying to listen to the oldies...just find the source. it would have the advantage with each step of making the bird more capable of finding a telephone wire or radio tower to perch on..
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