Response to Dinesh D'Souza op-ed2. Comment #85235 by crazy4blues on November 5, 2007 at 10:40 am
3. Comment #85239 by Gymnopedie on November 5, 2007 at 10:48 am
Dinesh D'Souza: Dishonest or Deluded?4. Comment #85241 by savroD on November 5, 2007 at 10:52 am
5. Comment #85242 by Matt7895 on November 5, 2007 at 10:53 am
"Well, that was pretty awful." wrote Janus.6. Comment #85246 by Janus on November 5, 2007 at 10:59 am
7. Comment #85251 by Nebularry on November 5, 2007 at 11:07 am
I would like to suggest that we christen "D'Souza Dilemma" a bona fide pathology.8. Comment #85252 by konquererz on November 5, 2007 at 11:12 am
9. Comment #85256 by DarwinsPitbull on November 5, 2007 at 11:17 am
Janus,10. Comment #85258 by Matt7895 on November 5, 2007 at 11:26 am
I agree with DarwinsPitbull. The RRS have never claimed to be intellectuals in the same category as Dawkins, Harris, Dennett and Hitchens. If you listen to their podcasts you'll see that they put across their side in a colloquial fashion, something quick and easy for the average Joe to understand. I don't mean that in a degrading way, of course. Not everyone is into reading essays and theses whenever they want to hear a side of the argument. 11. Comment #85260 by jimmm33 on November 5, 2007 at 11:31 am
Awful?12. Comment #85263 by Janus on November 5, 2007 at 11:36 am
13. Comment #85268 by Fanusi Khiyal on November 5, 2007 at 11:42 am
While reading it, one must wonder if he is either a blatant liar or simply downright deluded.
14. Comment #85271 by oxytocin on November 5, 2007 at 11:44 am
15. Comment #85282 by ChrisMcL on November 5, 2007 at 12:07 pm
16. Comment #85285 by LoneStarTravis on November 5, 2007 at 12:15 pm
savroD,17. Comment #85289 by rcphelan on November 5, 2007 at 12:24 pm
No, D'Souza is actually brilliant, jumping in to be the most likely one to make money from attacking "the new atheists" (who is not sick to death of that term already?), given his obvious ties to a great publishing agent.18. Comment #85296 by Diacanu on November 5, 2007 at 12:45 pm
19. Comment #85308 by sapient on November 5, 2007 at 1:14 pm
20. Comment #85315 by Bonzai on November 5, 2007 at 1:18 pm
Our antics in the past have been designed specifically to reach the layman. Major media publications want material that is more scholarly, and so therefore this entire year will be a demonstration in just how scholarly we can be
21. Comment #85316 by steve99 on November 5, 2007 at 1:19 pm
22. Comment #85323 by sapient on November 5, 2007 at 1:38 pm
23. Comment #85327 by Janus on November 5, 2007 at 1:44 pm
24. Comment #85331 by PrimeNumbers on November 5, 2007 at 1:49 pm
25. Comment #85337 by Mr DArcy on November 5, 2007 at 1:58 pm
26. Comment #85338 by BaronOchs on November 5, 2007 at 2:01 pm
the entire basis for belief in any god is faith, the definition of which is the antithesis of reason,
. . manifests itself in the fanaticism of its adherents
Whether you call this invisible and undetectable being Yahweh or Allah is of little consequence
27. Comment #85342 by Janus on November 5, 2007 at 2:12 pm
As a retired professional newspaper editor, I am inclined to say that is a bunch of crap.
28. Comment #85351 by Diacanu on November 5, 2007 at 2:29 pm
29. Comment #85353 by GoatBoy36 on November 5, 2007 at 2:37 pm
30. Comment #85361 by Ducklike on November 5, 2007 at 2:58 pm
31. Comment #85370 by Corylus on November 5, 2007 at 3:24 pm
32. Comment #85374 by v4ri4bl3 on November 5, 2007 at 3:38 pm
I will concede that in light of the unfavorable opinion I have of Kelly, as well as Brian, of RRS, I think this article was pretty well done. It abstains from including the word fuck in every sentence...wait...make that all sentences, in fact, it appears to contain no vulgarity at all. I can say that I am in essentially 100% agreement with this article. It shows of good workmanship. Or is that workwomanship? Bravo.33. Comment #85383 by Frankus1122 on November 5, 2007 at 4:38 pm
34. Comment #85395 by HereticChick on November 5, 2007 at 5:29 pm
35. Comment #85396 by HereticChick on November 5, 2007 at 5:30 pm
36. Comment #85397 by nother person on November 5, 2007 at 5:39 pm
I am in basic agreement with Janus. That's my conclusion stated in the first sentence.37. Comment #85400 by flobear on November 5, 2007 at 6:09 pm
38. Comment #85403 by Janus on November 5, 2007 at 6:38 pm
39. Comment #85415 by cyris8400 on November 5, 2007 at 7:20 pm
The author is listed as "Kelly O'Connor". Am I to understand that Kelly has relented in identifying her last name, then?40. Comment #85425 by okmichigan on November 5, 2007 at 8:29 pm
since the RRS has bent over backward to represent the new media atheists, i will suggest they take the heavy hitters seriously and reconsider what has been a rather embarrassing PR problem from the very beginning.41. Comment #85451 by quill on November 6, 2007 at 12:04 am
42. Comment #85455 by Corylus on November 6, 2007 at 12:39 am
43. Comment #85457 by Philip1978 on November 6, 2007 at 12:44 am
44. Comment #85472 by BT Murtagh on November 6, 2007 at 1:34 am
45. Comment #85491 by Logicel on November 6, 2007 at 2:35 am
46. Comment #85495 by steve99 on November 6, 2007 at 2:51 am
I have to say that I would have found D'Souza's really article hard to respond to, not because I would have nothing to say, but because there is just so much fallacious bollocks in it that it is hard to know where to start.
47. Comment #85512 by GoatBoy36 on November 6, 2007 at 3:35 am
48. Comment #85534 by GoatBoy36 on November 6, 2007 at 5:19 am
49. Comment #85586 by SilentMike on November 6, 2007 at 9:31 am
42. Comment #85403 by JanusGasp! Have I been called an amateur? Well of course I'm an amateur, much more so than Kelly.
However, Corylus is obviously not. I wish had I read her little guide half a decade ago. Listen to her. :)
50. Comment #85615 by Conrad on November 6, 2007 at 12:29 pm
I likewise was left wanting more from the article argument and style wise, if of course it was meant to be a scholarly refutation and not simply a blog forum rebuttle. Though I enjoyed it nonetheless. But to simply state that a writer could improve on their presentation and admiting that it read in a lackluster way is in no sense trollish behavior. It's a simple observation and not deserving of the quite over-the-top response from Sapient.This article is reposted from a website that accepts comments.
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