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It would appear that Expelled's producer Mark Mathis was not being truthful when he told me tonight that Crossroads was a 'working title' for the film Expelled. As Wesley Elsberry points out, the domain for Expelled was purchased before most, if not all, of the interviews were conducted -- and yet Richard Dawkins, Eugenie Scott, PZ Myers, and others were told they were being interviewed for a film called Crossroads.
Mr. Mark Mathis, do you want to come here and explain yourself?
3302. Comment #166206 by Quetzalcoatl on April 23, 2008 at 2:05 am
3303. Comment #166215 by irate_atheist on April 23, 2008 at 2:29 am
3304. Comment #166227 by Goldy on April 23, 2008 at 2:50 am
PhilipSo let me get this straight, you believe that God took 6 days to create EVERYTHING from scratch, including a human male made from clay and a woman made out of that man's rib.
3305. Comment #166238 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 3:14 am
I never said it wasn't, matey. I said that an unbeliever cannot properly interpret Scripture without guidance from the Holy Spirit.
You have not only proven that, you have also proven that you have a problem with reading comprehension as well.
The truth is not an insult except to one like you that rejects the truth.
I have no contempt for unbelievers I pray for them and feel sorry that they choose to remain blind to the truth. I do not send anyone anywhere. You do that by rejecting God's plan of salvation in Jesus Christ. God will reluctantly give you whatever destination you choose. I cannot determine or change your destination, only you can do that through faith in Christ.
You, "Do you happen to believe in the flood too?"
Yes
3306. Comment #166241 by Philip1978 on April 23, 2008 at 3:22 am
3307. Comment #166243 by epeeist on April 23, 2008 at 3:25 am
That means a total of 1 billion species have ever existed (I said it was conservative). Noah is given a week (604800 seconds) to round them up. He is therefore rounding up and placing 1 species on the ark every 600 micro secondsThat is one seriously large boat. Built out of wood wasn't it? That would make it a bit larger than this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyoming_(Schooner)
3308. Comment #166245 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 3:38 am
Of course Noah would have been a better boat builder
I know this isn't particularly good evidence, since China isn't mentioned in the bible.
3309. Comment #166250 by irate_atheist on April 23, 2008 at 3:47 am
3310. Comment #166251 by epeeist on April 23, 2008 at 3:47 am
Whenever I am on an apologetic web site (or directed to one) the first thing I do is check out what it says about dinosaurs.My approach is a little more gradual. Lure them in to start with by mentioning the varves in Lake Suigetsu (40,000 counted, one per year). They usually respond with something like Mt. St. Helens laying down multiple varves per year. Then you point out that there are thin and thick varves corresponding to known weather patterns and catastrophic events such as Krakatoa. And how this matches with tree rings. And how it all fits together with ice cores.
3311. Comment #166254 by Quetzalcoatl on April 23, 2008 at 3:51 am
God's last words to Noah, immortalised on film by S. Spielberg, were: 'You're gonna need a bigger boat.'
3312. Comment #166257 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 3:58 am
Not only do they have to show why each of the dating methods is wrong, but why they are all wrong by the same amount.
3313. Comment #166266 by debbyo on April 23, 2008 at 4:24 am
Is it true that the unicorns didn't make it? What about the goblins?3314. Comment #166272 by Philip1978 on April 23, 2008 at 4:28 am
3315. Comment #166274 by epeeist on April 23, 2008 at 4:32 am
3316. Comment #166276 by epeeist on April 23, 2008 at 4:36 am
Well yes, because salt water fish can't live in fresh water and vice versa (in general, there are some that can live in both). So he would have to have had some stonking great aquariums on board as well.
Though Eddie Izzard was right about how the Flying things and the swimming things get out due to a loophole! (Said in the voice of James Mason, who was playing God) Did Noah really have to collect them as well?
3317. Comment #166279 by Brian English on April 23, 2008 at 4:48 am
I'm sterblich.
3318. Comment #166282 by debbyo on April 23, 2008 at 4:59 am
OMFG. Listen to the creativity of Flood apologists :We also find many dinosaurs that were trapped and fossilized in Flood sediment. Widespread legends of encounters with dragons give
another indication that at least some dinosaurs survived the Flood. The only way this could happen is if they were on the Ark.
Juveniles of even the largest land animals do not present a size problem, and, being young, they have their full breeding life ahead of them. Yet most dinosaurs were not very large at allâ€"some were the size of a chicken (although absolutely no relation to birds, as many evolutionists are now saying). Most scientists agree that the average size of a dinosaur is actually the size of a sheep.
For example, God most likely brought Noah two young adult sauropods (e.g., apatosaurs), rather than two full-grown sauropods. The same goes for elephants, giraffes, and other animals that grow to be very large. However, there was adequate room for most fully grown adult animals anyway.
As far as the number of different types of dinosaurs, it should be recognized that, although there are hundreds of names for different varieties (species) of dinosaurs that have been discovered, there are probably only about 50 actual different kinds.
3319. Comment #166287 by debbyo on April 23, 2008 at 5:06 am
Uh-oh. According to this, birds are in:The Ark did not need to carry every kind of animal�"nor did God command it. It carried only air-breathing, land-dwelling animals, creeping things, and winged animals such as birds. Aquatic life (fish, whales, etc.) and many amphibious creatures could have survived in sufficient numbers outside the Ark. This cuts down significantly the total number of animals that needed to be on board.
3320. Comment #166289 by The Reverend Dark on April 23, 2008 at 5:08 am
3321. Comment #166290 by phasmagigas on April 23, 2008 at 5:08 am
You are claiming god does not exist, so prove it.
Simple isn't it.
3322. Comment #166292 by irate_atheist on April 23, 2008 at 5:13 am
3323. Comment #166293 by phasmagigas on April 23, 2008 at 5:13 am
Believe in Zolar. That's called free will. See how far that gets you at judgement day.
3324. Comment #166297 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 5:25 am
3325. Comment #166298 by The Reverend Dark on April 23, 2008 at 5:25 am
That's called free will. See how far that gets you at judgement day.
3326. Comment #166302 by phasmagigas on April 23, 2008 at 5:31 am
3327. Comment #166307 by phasmagigas on April 23, 2008 at 5:42 am
The thing that is supposed to be Eryops just cracks me up.
3328. Comment #166324 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 6:26 am
id say it was closer to Canis.
3329. Comment #166342 by gr8hands on April 23, 2008 at 7:08 am
Quick note: amazing that all the marsupials -- not mentioned in the bible, or known about in that part of the world at that time -- somehow managed to be collected by god and driven to the ark, were saved, and then taken back to exist only in Australia. And without being observed by anyone in between, or leaving any carcasses to be found (except in Australia).3330. Comment #166345 by Steve Zara on April 23, 2008 at 7:17 am
3331. Comment #166346 by Dr Benway on April 23, 2008 at 7:17 am
remnant: You are claiming god does not exist, so prove it.No, we don't know there is no God. We're saying that the proposition "God exists" has not yet been proven. The burden of proof remains upon you, the person claiming that God exists.
I said that an unbeliever cannot properly interpret Scripture without guidance from the Holy Spirit.The logical consequence of this position is facism, with something like a priestly caste ruling over the unsaved and novice believers. The power of the priestly caste would be unchecked, as there exists no reliable method to corroborate degrees of Holy Spirit guidance.
3332. Comment #166352 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 7:26 am
One of the main problems I can see with the flood is the change in salinity of many aquatic environments. Many fish are adapted to only specific osmotic conditions, and all of the extra water, no matter what its composition, would have been a real problem. There would have been considerable mixing of fresh and sea water.
3333. Comment #166354 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 7:33 am
The power of the priestly caste would be unchecked, as there exists no reliable method to corroborate degrees of Holy Spirit guidance.
3334. Comment #166355 by Sargeist on April 23, 2008 at 7:34 am
3335. Comment #166357 by epeeist on April 23, 2008 at 7:35 am
You see that's where your problem is, actually thinking about. You just have to have faith.
Yup, once you start doing the math, using reality, actually thinking about it, you can't help but arrive at the conclusion that it isn't true.
3336. Comment #166360 by Sargeist on April 23, 2008 at 7:37 am
3337. Comment #166361 by Quetzalcoatl on April 23, 2008 at 7:37 am
3338. Comment #166363 by Remnant on April 23, 2008 at 7:41 am
Re: Comment #166119 by MaxD on April 22, 2008 at 7:02 pm3339. Comment #166366 by irate_atheist on April 23, 2008 at 7:42 am
What's that Jesus? Liquid into liquid again?! Woopee-fucking-doYeah, I can do better than that. Hell, I can turn water into a solid. I use something called a freezer. Even Jebus didn't have one of those.
3340. Comment #166367 by The Reverend Dark on April 23, 2008 at 7:43 am
3341. Comment #166373 by irate_atheist on April 23, 2008 at 7:49 am
3342. Comment #166376 by gr8hands on April 23, 2008 at 7:51 am
Remnant -- answer the "unicorn" mistranslation question! Feel free to get help from the holy spirit.3343. Comment #166379 by Remnant on April 23, 2008 at 7:54 am
Re: Comment #166175 by Quetzalcoatl on April 23, 2008 at 12:53 am3344. Comment #166381 by Philip1978 on April 23, 2008 at 7:56 am
The power of the priestly caste would be unchecked
3345. Comment #166382 by gr8hands on April 23, 2008 at 7:57 am
Remnant -- answer the "unicorn" mistranslation question!3346. Comment #166388 by irate_atheist on April 23, 2008 at 8:03 am
3347. Comment #166389 by Remnant on April 23, 2008 at 8:04 am
Re: Comment #166298 by The Reverend Dark on April 23, 2008 at 5:25 am3348. Comment #166393 by gr8hands on April 23, 2008 at 8:05 am
Remnant -- answer the "unicorn" mistranslation question!3349. Comment #166395 by The Reverend Dark on April 23, 2008 at 8:06 am
3350. Comment #166397 by epeeist on April 23, 2008 at 8:08 am
Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;Now I don't hate you, but I do want you to do some good to me.
3301. Comment #166204 by epeeist on April 23, 2008 at 2:01 am
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