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Yes I have. You know, I respect you as a human being and you have done great work exposing psychics and frauds, but this is a very touchy issue that affects me and family emotionally. Our family business was affected because of Auschwitz because now, our family has nothing. It is gone. Things began to make sense once I saw the movie and I am just appalled. I have learned a lot from Ben Stein, a Jewish brother, who has opened my eyes up a bit.
Now I truly understand who you atheists and darwinists really are! You people believe that it was okay for my great-grandparents to die in the Holocaust! How disgusting. Your past article about the Holocaust was just window dressing. We Jews will fight to keep people like you out of the United States!Just look at those words of yours. Probably you regret them by now. I certainly hope so, but I'll continue to write my letter to you, on the assumption that you still feel at least a part of what you wrote.
Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.Hitler's obscene anti-Semitism was able to hold sway in Germany because there was a deeply embedded history of anti-Semitism in Germany, and indeed in Europe generally.
302. Comment #165478 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 1:58 pm
303. Comment #165479 by righton on April 21, 2008 at 1:59 pm
Nice post reverend!304. Comment #165480 by The Reverend Dark on April 21, 2008 at 1:59 pm
We are knocking 10 points off his estimated IQ every time he refuses to come up with any answers.
At the moment I think it is down to about the level of a very small beetle.
305. Comment #165481 by epeeist on April 21, 2008 at 2:01 pm
We didn't have a dialogue. You asked some questions, we gave you some answers.
I will look into the Spartina grass species you recommened. You seem like the only one who will have respectful dialouge. Is there any way I can e-mail you privately in order to continue this dialouge?
306. Comment #165482 by clodhopper on April 21, 2008 at 2:01 pm
307. Comment #165485 by clodhopper on April 21, 2008 at 2:04 pm
308. Comment #165486 by epeeist on April 21, 2008 at 2:04 pm
Epeeist thrust thuslyHey, want to see my body guards
309. Comment #165487 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 2:06 pm
If I were walking in a desert and came upon a highly detailed intricate sand castle, would I assume it developed by chance because I did not see the creator?
310. Comment #165488 by clodhopper on April 21, 2008 at 2:07 pm
311. Comment #165490 by Dr Benway on April 21, 2008 at 2:12 pm
TheTruthID: Please don't tell me to read a book or go to some gibberish website. You explain to me the process.Some of us work for a living. If we are required to write an essay each time a creationist asks a question that has been well addressed elsewhere, we will lose our jobs and our children will starve.
312. Comment #165491 by The Reverend Dark on April 21, 2008 at 2:12 pm
313. Comment #165493 by epeeist on April 21, 2008 at 2:15 pm
epee: you're a bit chuffed about that, aren't you?Just a bit :-D
314. Comment #165494 by Geodesic17 on April 21, 2008 at 2:15 pm
So, please, read the link. Do it for the children.
315. Comment #165495 by epeeist on April 21, 2008 at 2:18 pm
(Nice way of saying my arse would be kicked so hard that it would end up as a set of hairy Canadian earmuffs.)Total aside. I had some lessons off the former Canadian national coach (he was the British national coach at the time). A guy named Bob Anderson, he did one or two other things as well ;-)
316. Comment #165496 by clodhopper on April 21, 2008 at 2:19 pm
317. Comment #165497 by The Reverend Dark on April 21, 2008 at 2:21 pm
318. Comment #165498 by Teratornis on April 21, 2008 at 2:21 pm
Why so defensive. Usually one turns to aggresiion and name calling when they feel inadequate or not confident in their point of view.
Instead of defending your view you turn to name calling.
319. Comment #165503 by clodhopper on April 21, 2008 at 2:28 pm
320. Comment #165505 by hoops mccann on April 21, 2008 at 2:32 pm
321. Comment #165507 by moderationsmuse on April 21, 2008 at 2:33 pm
epeeist322. Comment #165513 by Quetzalcoatl on April 21, 2008 at 2:39 pm
You are of course still struggling to explain where our morality should come from - if it is not a product of evolution.
However I do know that Dr Dawkins and his followers are most certainly attempting to dupe you
Perhaps they genuinely and sincerely believe it, although other actions by them, which you can read about all over the internet, persuade me that they are fully capable of deliberate and calculated deception
323. Comment #165514 by Dr Benway on April 21, 2008 at 2:41 pm
You explain to me the process.Strange that someone I've never met might imagine I'm at his or her service.
324. Comment #165515 by Frankus1122 on April 21, 2008 at 2:46 pm
So, please, read the link. Do it for the children.
Do it for your country and its economy too.
Do it because everyone on this planet is stuffed if you don't.
325. Comment #165516 by TheTruthID on April 21, 2008 at 2:47 pm
So why do you believe in evolution?326. Comment #165520 by Quine on April 21, 2008 at 2:52 pm
327. Comment #165523 by dyak on April 21, 2008 at 2:54 pm
To BillySands (#312) Thank you - even funnier than your one word assessment of that Robertson twit!328. Comment #165524 by iamb_spartacus on April 21, 2008 at 2:54 pm
It is always a pleasure to see Professor Dawkins employ terms such as "lying," "propaganda" and "fact-checking" because it gives his readers a chance to recall that he has still not apologized for his slander of Mary Midgley, in his repeated insistence (as recently as last Fall on this site) that she had not read The Selfish Gene before discussing it in the journal Philosophy, in 1979 and that he had been told by the journalist Ullica Segestrale that Midgley had confessed as much to her. Both assertions are plainly false.329. Comment #165525 by Quine on April 21, 2008 at 2:55 pm
So why do you believe in evolution?
330. Comment #165526 by Peacebeuponme on April 21, 2008 at 2:57 pm
TheTruthIDSo why do you believe in evolution?Of course your application of the word "believe" in this sense is entirely different to a religious person believing in God or the resurrection. Bearing that in mind, rational folk believe in evolution because it is the best explanation for the propagation of life that we observe. It has amazing explanatory power, can make predictions and has an enormous amount of evidentiary support.
331. Comment #165527 by Frankus1122 on April 21, 2008 at 3:00 pm
So why do you believe in evolution?
332. Comment #165529 by AllanW on April 21, 2008 at 3:06 pm
333. Comment #165531 by mjosef on April 21, 2008 at 3:14 pm
This is in response to a comemnt a long while back by Roland F. First, Shermer is not just relaying a message about the wonderfulness of the current economy - he explicitly states his fondness for how "moral" it is, how this alleged "unseen hand" is a factual and powerful as "natural selection." His attempts a providing some sort of balance to himself are not exactly ruggedly self-questioning. This is absolute claptrap, to think that this dismal world of mega-rich satraps cavorting with unearned tax breaks stepping over starving children in their communities is somehow "natural," "evolutionary" - this is completely dangerous, inhuman thinking, from someone trying to steep his extreme "libertarian" twaddle in "skepticism" or "rationality" labels. To have Mr. Dawkins now bathing this man Mr. Shermer, confidante to one of the henchmen to the Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II-III, in awe and reverence is fraudulent, and if Mr. Dawkins wishes to recover his integrity in my eyes, he can try to explain how you pervert "science" into justifications for neo-fascism. That's all I'm asking, that's all - but if you like the current state of affairs, and like atheism to stand for absolutely nothing that smacks of actual political worth, then go with Shermer, Alan Greenspan, PJ. O'Rourke, Rush Limbaugh - maybe Mr. Dawkins wants to call them "kind and decent" also.334. Comment #165535 by Brian English on April 21, 2008 at 3:36 pm
MPhil, that was a brilliant take down of Robertson's lies. Kudos.335. Comment #165537 by Dr Benway on April 21, 2008 at 3:43 pm
336. Comment #165538 by Barry Pearson on April 21, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Dr Benway: Some of us work for a living. If we are required to write an essay each time a creationist asks a question that has been well addressed elsewhere, we will lose our jobs and our children will starve.
337. Comment #165540 by Dr Benway on April 21, 2008 at 4:02 pm
So why do you believe in evolution?You're starting off on the wrong foot. My "beliefs" are irrelevant. Settle the matter for yourself by reading about the evidence for evolution via the link eepeist provided.
338. Comment #165541 by Barry Pearson on April 21, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Quine: Another particularly ignorant piece of crap mentions Prof. Dawkins by name.
The Evolutionists have lost a great deal of ground in the past few decades and feel the sand slipping away from beneath their feet. No wonder they are frightened, angry and vengeful.
339. Comment #165545 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 4:18 pm
So why do you believe in evolution?
Here's a scientific question: can evolutionary biology explain how creationists developed the ability to write without ever having developed the ability to read?
340. Comment #165546 by Brian English on April 21, 2008 at 4:19 pm
/Off topic341. Comment #165553 by phasmagigas on April 21, 2008 at 4:37 pm
How can you begin to explain evolution when you can't even begin to explain where life came from in the first place?
342. Comment #165555 by phasmagigas on April 21, 2008 at 4:41 pm
I would love to see how evolution is recorded in the fossil record?
343. Comment #165557 by phasmagigas on April 21, 2008 at 4:47 pm
You ask, what does ID predict? How has MACRO-evolution predictions been tested and whether it can be falsified and misrepresented? I want to know what tests were cunducted and what the results were. I challenge you to show me one shred of scientific evidence that proves MACRO-evolution?
344. Comment #165558 by ficklefiend on April 21, 2008 at 4:49 pm
345. Comment #165559 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 4:51 pm
How can you begin to explain evolution when you can't even begin to explain where life came from in the first place?
346. Comment #165560 by phasmagigas on April 21, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Your question of the Bird Flu. I agree, I want the scientists to use their ideas of MICRO-evolution to try and trace the origin of the infection, not Macro-evolution. I assume you know the difference?
347. Comment #165561 by Kenneth on April 21, 2008 at 4:54 pm
I am currently in the middle of reading The God Delusion. So far, it makes some interesting points. Most seem refutable, but some are quite fascinating.348. Comment #165562 by sidelined on April 21, 2008 at 4:57 pm
TheTruthID says349. Comment #165563 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 4:59 pm
350. Comment #165565 by marv78rpm on April 21, 2008 at 5:03 pm
As a broken-off American Jew (actually I was never particularly attached in the first place), I am all too well acquainted with this "they're out to get us" mentality that uptight Jews have. Religion (Jehovah)is not the main force behind Mr. J.'S yelling:it is the Jewish meme that he is carrying and making him see an anti-semitic plot wherever he looks. Boy, have I met a lot of people like this. Some are my close relatives.
301. Comment #165477 by Quine on April 21, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Al, it was just a set up for a ref to this very nice piece by PZ explaining the change in chromosome number by so called micro-evolution.
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