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Sunday, July 13, 2008 | Science : Evolution and Biology | print version Print | Comments

Video Ants, terrorism, and the awesome power of memes

Dan Dennett, TED

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[ Filmed Feb 2002; Posted Jul 2007 ] Starting with the simple tale of an ant, philosopher Dan Dennett unleashes a devastating salvo of ideas, making a powerful case for the existence of memes -- concepts that are literally alive.



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1. Comment #210144 by clearmind on July 14, 2008 at 2:35 am

A tale of two professors vs A TALE OF ANIMALS

Memesis, reason, elephants mind terrorizm

The so-called professor found a book on the table. He opened it up and looked at it. And he said, "this book's letters are survival of letter evolution. Survived letters came together and created this meaningful book.

A professor found a book on the table and look INTO IT ND SAW THAT the book was meaningful and checked the writer's name.


The memesis of elephant was confused when it was told that survival of memesis ended up in elephant and worse the and and Him were the ancestors to each other; it beats him who came first? He fainted when he heard that he came from a worm.


Memesis
The ants
The elephant
Ancestor worm

What is the difference between atheism and Stalin?

Stalin killed innocent people and Atheism is TRYING ITS BEST TO KILL INNOCENT MINDS. So far it failed and it will be failing since it is not based on logic and reason but just an assumption jungle. The funny, maybe as funny as Mr Dennet's video, thing about assumption jungle is that when the first assumption is wrong, then, rest of the assumptions are all wrong since they rely on each other like a dome.

Meaning life comes through meaningful and logical thinking.

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2. Comment #210279 by clearmind on July 14, 2008 at 7:52 am

I am not high and never be

(You understand, do you, that many of us find your comments unintelligible ? You may have a point, but your ability to explain it clearly is not very high.)

Indeed, me and other readers think different. All my analogies are based on;

1. Nothing can happen by itself.
2. Books letters cannot created anything.
3. Art and artist are different.
4. If there is an art, then, there is an artist. If you tell me a simple Monalisa has a maker but a real alive human being does not have a maker, then I and rest of the believers will oppose this.

Briefly, my point was taken well but since I defeat the evolution with logic, there is no defense except CENSORSHIP WHEN you are stuck. Your is typical as well. Evolution is very complicated â€" I notice that when I see evolution tree- we talk high etc is a kind of another way to be evasive to save the evolution.


So tyler
We got it. You say the letters of the books wrote the book. Good. Everybody agreed, right? Or you speak for yourself only? That is meaningful, isn't it? (stress is on the first word)


To crazymalc says
I AM 99% SURE THAT THERE IS NO CRAZYMALC.

Clearmind clears
I AM 99% SURE THAT THERE IS NO CRAZYMALC.


Atheism is a philosophical position.
Stalin was a man.

Correction: Atheism became the source of massacres and all killings in the past. Stalin was one of them. People who have no real faith can do anything, no faith at all , just run away.

I oppose all killings and murders as any common sense guy would do. But killings and massacres cannot attach to any religion. Personalities, perceptions interpretations, political justifications are today a threat to human beings. The only solution is to have real faith in our hearts where there would be no hatred.

Okay Mr Mitchell, let's hear you what memes are ? I would not advise you to attempt to tease me. Second you are killing me softly when you talk about coherence and intelligibility imagining you leaning to SOOOOO complicated evolution tree as an evolin.

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3. Comment #210732 by clearmind on July 15, 2008 at 3:09 am

Selfish genes in DNAs and lead the animals "I wanna save myself ' urge and there you go all species with different colours, features and needs popped up suddenly in a delusional way While atheism AGAIN fails to figure out how we, HUMAN BEINGS are conscious have common sense that is very different from other animals.

So I am conscious so are my memes. Then why can't I have a Chinese look while I have the tendency in my Genes? But only Far East country people have them. If I can't digest milk because I have no enzyme called lactase, so, there you go I have got selfish gene that cause me to have that.

The problem is that evolution has got many holes and Dawkins and Dennet vainly try to patch the holes with make-up stories, selfish gene, blindwatcmaker, meNOTTHINKING, etc that is not based on any scientific findings and proofs, which make it look worse since people who read it, they are lost in what they read.

So selfish genes say ME ME ME Just ME in a delusional world of evolution while Logic, reason, religion and science agree that each creature is unique and created uniquely according to the time and place they live. Logical is that.

Small matters

To David
You are looking at the mirror and Oh My God, you are swearing yourself. That is not good.


Ishruul:
(Of course all the holy wars, jyhad, crusade, holocaust and genocide or all atheist-based-slaughter. Thank you for opening my eyes on such warped view of the world.)

Real believers, peace, harmony, feeling safe, honesty, no swearing, no lying, and no slandering, that is what we call Faith.

Extremists, puppets, oil, justifications, killing innocent people and let American soldiers be killed and there you go, believers did it. Yeah Oh yeah!
What we call is Politics. Watch thomas Moore

To Mitchell
(you need to actually take action in order to make a difference.)
Already. I started with this atheism fairy tale.



To david again

(Clearmind, I have to know - what is your native language? I can't quite pinpoint it, but I do notice your use (or lack thereof) of prepositions is off (quite common when crossing a linguistic barrier of any kind), but your verb conjugations and fragmented sentences I can't decode as Romantic, Semitic, East Asian, or any other. I'm not flaming you, I'm just interested (as a linguist).

Nobody can because I do not exist according to some guys. I promise when this web page is close down because of Logic, I will tell you. I have been writing many articles and letters for quite a while. Don't worry about prepositions; they have got selfish memes in them so they took off.

To Mitchell again

If I were you I would be sorry about evolution theory. Memes are leaving evolution but not saying me me me, just saying logic, logic, logic, help us.
Killing the logic.


To village idiot

an argument and opinion
a fact and conviction
a proof and misconception
a reason and faith...

a chemical rain out of no reason
Dna , worm, selfish genes
Blindwatcmaker
Mutation
Delusion
Monkeys became me
No creation

Is surely not possible. Sorry 84 percent believers, that is why, are not idiot.
Big letters apply to atheists who cannot catch on.

To Cluebot

I am totally clueless why you are wearing helmet while using the computer. Selfish genes, memes?


To William
Every single fossil ever found has fit perfectly geologically and temporally into the theory of evolution.

Are you sure?
http://www.nwcreation.net/evolutionfraud.html

http://www.internetweekly.org/2006/04/cartoon_missing_link_denier.html (just for fun)

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread361442/pg1

There is more if you want.


Figures talk

However at Salem the *actual* death percentage was 18/550*100=3.3%
At http://www.gendercide.org/case_stalin.html it estimates 10 million died under Stalin when the population of the USSR was estimated to be around 160 million. That is 10/160*100=6.25%


(Would God not be the greatest work of art ever created? Then who painted the wonder that is YahWeh? Your argument is flawed)

Now you admit that art needs an artist but you ask who made the artist and you answer yourself without listening to me, you say "no answer" then you conclude that my argument is flawed. Can I say more or no need?



Rod-to-the farmer

Who is the maker of Mona Lisa?

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4. Comment #210873 by clearmind on July 15, 2008 at 7:32 am

Rod _farmer

(The obvious answer to who made the Mona Lisa is the human artist who painted her. The next question you pose is "Who made you/me ?" The answer is, "My human parents)

Let's have a hypothetical conversation to see the logical fallacy in your answer.

Mona Lisa: Who made me?
Rod-F: Da Vinci
Mona Lisa:Who is your maker?
Rod-F:My parents
Mona Lisa:I am not asking how you are made. I am asking you who designed you? Your eyes, ears, face, body etc
Rod-F:I told you my parents.
Mona Lisa:Now you are talking nonsense. What you are saying now is that I was made by water and colours. They are mixed by themselves and there you go without Da Vinci I happened.
Rod-F:But?
Mona Lisa:No Buts/ I am asking you who designed you in your mother's womb? In nine months, a small piece of meat turned to be a perfect human being who can smile eat, see etc. Much more perfect than me. So Just think about it and give an answer? Don't tell me water and colours who are not capable of anything but just tools in the hands of the ARTIST.

Mitchell

You know what? Whatever! Enjoy!

To Cold lazarus

My daughter is asking different things like why our eyes are so perfect? Is our brain like a computer? Why is there sunlight needed? Why is there rain and connection to the plants and why we are different from monkeys?

She does ask about memes yet but I already taught her that being selfish is not a GOOD HUMAN TRAIT.

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