A Christian viewer from Phoenix named Shane called in to Sunday’s show with the hopes of convincing host Matt Dillahunty and co-host Tracie Harris that the fact that even atheists had a “moral code” proved of the existence of God.

“Divine command theory, the religious proposition that God dictates morality is in fact immoral,” Dillahunty explained to the caller. “It forces you to sacrifice your humanity and pollutes your moral compass because you are stuck doing whatever this God supposedly says is good, whether or not it’s actually good. And we already know that there are, for example, commands in the Bible that are not morally correct.”

“I think you’re more moral than your God and you just haven’t figured it out yet,” Harris added.

“Why is God so immoral?” the caller asked.