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Comment #204206 by quill on July 4, 2008 at 11:49 am
"Our people are really suffering through this crisis," Twyman told Cybercast News Service.
2. Obama Wants to Expand Role of Religious Groups
Comment #203152 by quill on July 2, 2008 at 12:18 pm
First, if you get a federal grant, you can't use that grant money to proselytize to the people you help and you can't discriminate against them.
Second, federal dollars that go directly to churches, temples, and mosques can only be used on secular programs. And we'll also ensure that taxpayer dollars only go to those programs that actually work.
3. Obama Wants to Expand Role of Religious Groups
Comment #203142 by quill on July 2, 2008 at 12:08 pm
OMG.
Fuck him. First he closes the door on the Palestinian peace process, then he abandons public campaign financing, and now this. He is already turning into a major disappointment.
Making Bush's faith-based initiatives permanent is totally uncalled for. Expanding them is unthinkable. That's the end of church-state separation in this country.
4. Common New Atheist Fallacies
Comment #200506 by quill on June 27, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Dave,
You misunderstand me. :)
By "they" I meant crazy persons like the one in this video.
5. Common New Atheist Fallacies
Comment #200499 by quill on June 27, 2008 at 6:23 pm
First they ignore you,
Then they laugh at you,
Then they fight you,
And then you win.
6. Where do US lawmakers stand on science?
Comment #197608 by quill on June 22, 2008 at 11:23 am
I think an 80% carbon emission reduction by 2050 is achievable. For the most part, the technologies required have already been researched enough. It's just a question of production.
And by the way, most of those seven questions are extremely milquetoast - do you support research? How do you see technology contributing to health? - So it's no surprise they've gotten mostly milquetoast answers.
Comment #197600 by quill on June 22, 2008 at 11:16 am
What is it with these people and fake names? What was the name of that last guy? Vox Dei?
8. Pastors Challenge Law, Endorse Candidates From Pulpit
Comment #197269 by quill on June 21, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Comment #197014 by irate_atheist:
Thank fuck I'm not American.
In a way it's sad to see you guys slipping back into the Dark Ages. Perhaps it will serve as a warning to others.
9. Louisiana's Latest Assault on Darwin
Comment #197245 by quill on June 21, 2008 at 12:36 pm
To the Honorable Governor Jindal,
Hey Bobby,
Congrats on this new anti-science bill you're fronting. Those of us in the better-educated northern states benefit tremendously from having a laughingstock to ridicule, and you have earned our heartfelt gratitude for continuing Louisiana's legacy of service in that regard.
Thanks again for reaffirming your state's historic reputation as the educational and cultural backwater of our great nation,
Miles A. Casner
10. What Happens When a School Board of Religious Zealots Will 'Lie for Jesus'?
Comment #197239 by quill on June 21, 2008 at 12:22 pm
That's the feeling I get when talking to this people. It's depressing, but there's just no possibility to find any common ground with them. You can't even use the metaphor of tectonic plates the author mentioned, because when you do that, you find out that they literally do not believe in tectonic plates. They're just too far gone.
Comment #197027 by quill on June 21, 2008 at 12:27 am
These people are such losers. Reading this thing I'm reminded of Dembski's pathetic Flash animation he made of Judge Jones in which he inserted fart sounds because he thought it would make Jones look stupid and not himself.
Just let them pass their law, as soon as it gets to trial it'll just be slapped down just like their last one, and the one before that, and the one before that. They're never going to fool a Federal court with this transparent nonsense.
12. Pastors Challenge Law, Endorse Candidates From Pulpit
Comment #196811 by quill on June 20, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Haha, these guys are going down. You don't try this kind of bullshit with the IRS. Take it from Kent Hovind, suckers. They'll break down your doors, confiscate your property, and put your asses in jail for the rest of your miserable lives.
13. Scientists rally against creationist 'superstition'
Comment #187013 by quill on June 1, 2008 at 4:44 am
For those skeptical of the 40% figure:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4648598.stm
48% of Britons accepted evolutionary theory.
22% chose creationism.
17% chose "intelligent design".
The rest said they did not know.
40% of those questioned believe that creationism or intelligent design should be taught in school science lessons.
14. 1968 Supreme Court case of Epperson v. Arkansas
Comment #185821 by quill on May 28, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Unfortunately, people like this can always defend their use of the term "Darwinism" by pointing out that atheists and "evolutionists" like Dawkins also say "Darwinism" when they're talking about Darwinian theory. It gives them cover.
15. Car dealership advert tells atheists to 'shut up'
Comment #185456 by quill on May 27, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Excuse me, but "America's non-Christian minority of 14 percent"? Try 33 percent. I apologize if someone has pointed this out already, but what bull.
16. Americans pray at the pump for cheaper petrol
Comment #179187 by quill on May 12, 2008 at 8:57 pm
How much you wanna bet these idiots voted for Bush?
17. The History Channel might do something right
Comment #176088 by quill on May 6, 2008 at 2:14 pm
They should show intermittent clips from Ben Stein throughout the series just to highlight his ignorance on the subject. "And somehow that MUD..."
18. Was the new finger a 'natural' miracle?
Comment #174409 by quill on May 2, 2008 at 11:43 am
Wait a minute. He didn't even cut into the bone? Unless I'm reading this wrong, it seems he only cut off a part of the tip of his finger, and only superficially. Yet when it grew back - a miracle!!
19. Anti-Evolution Film Misappropriates the Holocaust
Comment #173742 by quill on May 1, 2008 at 7:42 am
Oh the irony. I find it extremely annoying, the way people like this (the Anti-Defamation League) try to co-opt the Holocaust and make it about Jewish people, to the exclusion of all the other groups, including homosexuals and atheists, Hitler tried to exterminate. The holocaust was not "Hitler's plan to destroy the Jewish people". Ugh..
20. Judge orders La. school district to stop Bible giveaways
Comment #167125 by quill on April 23, 2008 at 4:33 pm
Azven,
In my public school (in Illinois) we went over various religions during the course of our "world history" classes, but you are correct, religion itself cannot be a subject in American public school currculae because our government is supposed to be entirely secular and even discussing religion under the pretense of objectivity opens the door to religious indoctrination.
This is one case in which our church-state separation might actually be counterproductive to the goal of spreading atheism, but for my part I would not change the law, as I think it prevents more problems than it creates.
Besides, an hour spent on a comparative religion class is an hour not spent on science.
21. Pope's Views on Science Invoke Spirited Debate
Comment #165362 by quill on April 21, 2008 at 11:48 am
In fact, in a July 2007 speech in Italy, Benedict called the debate between evolution and creationism "an absurdity." He noted that "there is much scientific proof in favor of evolution" but that the theory still had room for God to play a role.
22. Richard Dawkins' secular army must be stopped. God is behind some of our greatest art
Comment #160305 by quill on April 13, 2008 at 11:15 pm
As an artist myself I feel compelled to point out that the field of art has been dominated by nonbelievers over the past century or so, just as the sciences have been. This is even true here in the "culturally poorer" USA, which incidentally has been the center of the modern art world for much of that time.
23. 'Expelled' ripped off Harvard's 'Inner Life of the Cell' animation
Comment #159266 by quill on April 11, 2008 at 7:47 pm
Of course this kind of makes the case for them, since plagiarism is one of many things that actually does get people expelled. :/
24. Rep. Davis: The Worst Person in the World
Comment #158551 by quill on April 10, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Good for Keith! This woman really does appear to be one of the worst people in the world regardless of what she said about atheists. Kids in chicago schools are gunning each other down and she, a member of the House educational committe, has nothing better to do than milk the state's treasury for the benefit of religious groups.
25. Rep. Davis: The Worst Person in the World
Comment #158542 by quill on April 10, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Davis sits on the House committee responsible for public schools. One of the bills she sponsored last year was the "Moment of Silence and Student Prayer Act" which attempted to sneak prayer into them. Meanwhile as public school students continue to be killed, her priorities seem to be finding ways to funnel millions of dollars into churches instead of, say, metal detectors? So in my opinion it does seem clear that the reason our educational system is in such a mess is due to the gross incompetence of people like her.
What makes it even worse is that, according to VoteSmart, not only does she attend Jeremiah Wright's church, but in the past she's actually been on its board of directors. What kind of church even has a "board of directors" in the first place? There is something seriously rotten going on in that parish.
26. Rep. Davis: The Worst Person in the World
Comment #157856 by quill on April 9, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Wow, I almost choked when I saw this. So nice to have someone in the national news media on our side for a change. It would've been even better if he'd quoted Lincoln directly, but still, amazingly gratifying that he did this much. Thanks Keith. :)
Time to apply some additional pressure. Please, everyone send a polite email to the Honorable Representative Jack D. Franks (jack@jackfranks.org), chairperson of the Government Administration Committee at which Davis' remarks were made, asking him to censure her for her disgraceful behavior.
27. Get out of here, atheists!
Comment #156555 by quill on April 7, 2008 at 9:04 pm
Some other suggestions:
1. Write a letter / send an email to the Chicago Tribune's opinion section.
2. I don't expect it to come to anything, but I sent Keith Olbermann (countdown@msnbc.com) a link for his Worst Person segment just in case.
28. Get out of here, atheists!
Comment #156540 by quill on April 7, 2008 at 7:28 pm
No, things are not all bad here. Just a couple of weeks ago, the IL House of Representatives voted to repeal the "Moment of Silence" law which was enacted briefly at the end of last year as a way of sneaking prayer into schools. I can only guess that was what Mrs. Davis was so upset about. We secularists won that battle. And we'll win this one, too. That money is not going to any church.
29. Get out of here, atheists!
Comment #156529 by quill on April 7, 2008 at 6:44 pm
Representative Davis' email address:
mdavis2147@aol.com
Provided by VoteSmart.org.
And regarding Obama - she supports him now, but doesn't seem to like him. She's told reporters that she felt he had "snubbed" her when they worked together in the state legislature. Now we know why!
30. Get out of here, atheists!
Comment #156406 by quill on April 7, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Don't write - phone! Her contact information is as follows:
Springfield Office:
241-E Stratton Office Building
Springfield, IL 62706
(217) 782-0010
(217) 782-1795 FAX
District Office:
1234 West 95th Street
Chicago, IL 60643
(773) 445-9700
(773) 445-5755 FAX
Cook County
I called earlier and although she wasn't in, they said the phones had been ringing all day.
31. Get out of here, atheists!
Comment #156396 by quill on April 7, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Apparently she actually goes to Rev. Wright's church as well.
32. Get out of here, atheists!
Comment #156383 by quill on April 7, 2008 at 12:39 pm
"My earlier views at the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures, have become clearer and stronger with advancing years, and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." - Abraham Lincoln
33. Get out of here, atheists!
Comment #156377 by quill on April 7, 2008 at 12:25 pm
Comment #156367 by TheSwede:
To all:
If this had happened in my country... By Thor's hammer! - there would be no end the the following debate, but there would be a very quick end to her career!
34. Christian Founders 3D Adventure Computer Game
Comment #153902 by quill on April 2, 2008 at 7:40 am
These games - including Zoo Race and Noah's Adventures - are really something remarkable. As someone involved in game development, it looks as though they were made on a budget of approximately $2000 each. I would say it appeared they simply bought premade stock objects (crates, ladders) off of websites, except I don't know where in 2008 you could find stock meshes that look this bad.
35. The science of religion: Where angels no longer fear to tread
Comment #148878 by quill on March 24, 2008 at 12:44 pm
Similarly, signs of religious commitment that are hard to fake provide a costly and reliable signal to others in a group that anyone engaging in them is committed to that group. Free-riders, in other words, would not be able to gain the advantages of group membership. [...] Religion might have emerged as a way of improving group co-operation while reducing the need to keep an eye out for free-riders.I assume we're talking about "free riders" other than priests, haha.
36. Oklahoma: One Step from Doom
Comment #141411 by quill on March 10, 2008 at 11:11 am
E. O. Wilson is from Alabama, I think. I know a lot of intelligent people are. It's just that if these people are so determined to create their godly society of true believers, they should be allowed to do it. I just wish it weren't part of my society. :/
37. Oklahoma: One Step from Doom
Comment #141397 by quill on March 10, 2008 at 10:54 am
The people of Dover voted OUT their school board when that happened.
38. Oklahoma: One Step from Doom
Comment #141393 by quill on March 10, 2008 at 10:44 am
Just let them secede!
I'm sorry, I know it's wrong, but every time I open the news, something hopelessly and tragically stupid is going on in Texas, or Kansas, or Oklahoma, or Florida, or some other former confederate state.
39. Interview with Richard Dawkins
Comment #135403 by quill on February 28, 2008 at 11:10 pm
Well, to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if most of the Popes throughout history had been more often atheists than Christians. You could probably say the same for Ted Haggard, Jimmy Swaggert, Jerry Falwell, Benny Hinn, and on, and on, and on. I'm sure none of those guys believe that God is actually going to punish them for stealing money from the gullible. But these people are still religious figures and the movements they lead are religious movements. In the future I will probably just point out that Hitler was at least outwardly Christian, without making claims as to what he privately believed.
40. Interview with Richard Dawkins
Comment #135394 by quill on February 28, 2008 at 10:45 pm
No problem, same here. We'll never know what Hitler believed in his own diseased mind, but I don't like being told that he was the leader of an atheist regime. Especially considering the large number of atheists he had shipped to the furnaces, it seems almost a crime against history. I am not primarily upset with you, as much as I am with the people who propagate this stuff. You have to understand that the "Hitler was an atheist" thing comes up in every single debate an atheist ever has with a Christian - it seems church pastors like nothing better than to spend their Sundays reminding their flocks that atheists are all Hitlers in waiting - and it gets very old.
41. Interview with Richard Dawkins
Comment #135385 by quill on February 28, 2008 at 10:31 pm
"In the years to come I shall continue on this road, uncompromisingly safeguarding my people's interests, oblivious to all misery and danger, and filled with the holy conviction that God the Almighty will not abandon him who, during all his life, had no desire but to save his people from a fate it had never deserved, neither by virtue of its number nor by way of its importance."
- Adolf Hitler, radio address, 30 January 1945
I don't have to defend other atheists who think Hitler's Table Talk is reliable. Some atheists are boneheads and others are just ill-informed. The fact is, those quotes were never written down or published during Hitler's lifetime and the only thing we have to verify them with is the word of the one man who claimed years later that Hitler told them to him in person. Or in other words, not verifiable, sorry.
Edit: And anyway, even supposing that Hitler did believe in private that Christianity was bogus, which is entirely possible, it doesn't change the fact that he was in public a committed Christian, and the millions of Nazis who believed his every word believed that he was a Christian. National Socialism was a Christian movement regardless of what Hitler may have believed in the privacy of his own thoughts. Hitler's Germany was not an atheist regime, it was a religious one.
42. Interview with Richard Dawkins
Comment #135370 by quill on February 28, 2008 at 10:01 pm
Hitler identified himself as a Catholic. If you want to call it simplistic, argue with him.
43. Interview with Richard Dawkins
Comment #135366 by quill on February 28, 2008 at 9:55 pm
More Hitler quotes:
"I am convinced that I am acting as the agent of our Creator. By fighting off the Jews, I am doing the Lord's work." - Speech before the Reichstag, 1938
"I am now as before a CATHOLIC and will always remain so." - Letter to a general
"We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out." - Speech in Berlin, 1933; this refers to Hitler's widespread persecution of atheists, whom he deported to concentration camps because he considered them affiliated with Communists.
Under Hitler, all Nazi soldiers were issued belts inscribed with the words "Gott mit uns" ("God is with us"), which became the German national motto. You can still buy them on eBay today. All Waffen SS took their oath of loyalty first to God, then to the Fuhrer.
And how about these words:
"Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith... We need believing people."
Pat Robertson? Jerry Falwell? No, it was Adolf Hitler, when he introduced SCHOOL PRAYER and Catholic religious instruction into all German schools in 1933, abolishing secular schools.
Again, some atheistic regime. Please do yourself an intellectual favor and read some actual history books sometime and stop relying upon church-sponsored propaganda for your information.
44. Interview with Richard Dawkins
Comment #135363 by quill on February 28, 2008 at 9:45 pm
wyattroberts,
First of all, it's "Quill", not "Quinn". How hard is it to spell someone's username?
Second, the quotes you gave all came from a book called "Hitler's Table Talk," which is widely refuted. They were never written down, published or broadcast during Hitler's lifetime. They come to us secondhand from one man who alleged to have conversations with Hitler years later, but is widely considered a fraud.
Here is an ACTUAL Hitler quote:
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.
In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross."
This, unlike the BS quotes you provided, was written by Hitler himself in Mein Kampf and you can read it anytime you like.
Anyone who understands the history of National Socialism in Germany knows that it was a Catholic movement, not an atheistic one. Every senior ranking member of the Nazi Party was a Catholic. Hitler, Himmler, Goebbels, Goering, all Catholics. Any biography on Hitler will confirm this fact; it is in no way controversial. I have hopes that someday you will look beyond the propaganda you've been reading, but to be honest, I don't expect you to.
45. Interview with Richard Dawkins
Comment #135336 by quill on February 28, 2008 at 8:56 pm
Bonzai:
To argue against it we have to get at the source of the fallacy and explain clearly that no, God is not necessary for meaning and that atheism doesn't logically leads to nihilism.I usually prefer just to quote Hitler on God, the importance of religion, and the evils of atheism; and to mention that Josef Stalin was a priest.
46. Interview with Richard Dawkins
Comment #135332 by quill on February 28, 2008 at 8:52 pm
Haha, this is fabulous. The woman clearly does not want to conduct this interview.
I love her Wisconsin accent, though. She doesn't have too much of one, but I never tire of hearing it, for some reason. Everyone in the Minnesota/Wisconsin/Michigan area comes from Scandinavian descent, and you still hear a definite Swedish accent all over the place.
47. Are they running for President or Pastor-in-Chief?
Comment #134632 by quill on February 28, 2008 at 4:01 am
I'm not a fan of Hillary Clinton, but anyone can see that her quote in this video, "I think you can sense how we are attempting to try to inject faith into policy," was taken way out of context. Are we actually supposed to believe that she was saying this was a good thing?
What an amateurish video. I'm amazed that this kind of article gets listed here, while the groundbreaking Pew study on American religious attitudes which came out several days ago was not, even though br0k3nglass created a thread for it on the politics forum and I know several people emailed it in to articles@RichardDawkins.net to be listed.
48. Church is paying a high price for its celibacy rule
Comment #132798 by quill on February 25, 2008 at 8:04 am
Plus, this Pope's hard-line tactics seem to be imploding the Vatican. Any thoughts?Yeah, I don't know what they were thinking, voting in a former Hitler Youth. But then, you could say the same thing about their continued attempts to protect child molesters from the law. The Catholic Church seems to be its own worst enemy these days.
49. Evidence can't shake your faith if your faith excludes it as evidence
Comment #132520 by quill on February 24, 2008 at 11:08 pm
This man is a douche. Please let us leave an overabundance of comments to this effect at the OC register. :L
50. How he was sentenced to die
Comment #132519 by quill on February 24, 2008 at 11:02 pm
And this is the kind of "democracy" that my country is putting in place worldwide.
Disgusting. Why isn't our President doing something about this? Or the US Congress? I'm sure there are thousands more people like Mr. Kambaksh being persecuted by the Afghan government, and yet not one peep of criticism has come out of my country's official administration except for that of Condoleeza Rice.