1. Jay Spears: Smak Dem Christians Down

Comment #115266 by jayspears on January 23, 2008 at 8:39 pm

Oops I forgot to mention the Paine quote is from his Age of Reason, Part First, Section 1.
JS

2. Jay Spears: Smak Dem Christians Down

Comment #115153 by jayspears on January 23, 2008 at 5:10 pm

Hello ladies & gents, thanks for responding to my video and to Mr. Dawkins for posting it.
The answer is no -- Abe Lincoln was not a Christian at all. In his congressional campaigns he said so. Jefferson did alter the New Testament, removing references to Jesus' miracles and divinity. I consider deists like Washington, Franklin, et al, since they don't believe Jesus is divine, to be non-Christian. They did respect him as a great moral teacher, but didn't believe he was God.
Jefferson was a Unitarian, who, as the name implies, believe in one God the creator, not like Trinitarian religions who have Father, Son, & Holy Spirit. Again, since Unitarians don't consider Jesus to be any more divine than you or I, I don't consider them Christian, which I certainly don't hold against them.
FYI I come from a Catholic background.
I only wish I had room in my song & video for Thomas Paine, another of the American Founding Fathers, who wrote "I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of.... Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all."
Cheers!
Jay Spears