1. On Fitna, the Movie

Comment #178915 by Naug on May 12, 2008 at 8:18 am

Clintonjason:

You're linking a report from -FOX news- about swedish immigration? If you're not taking it with a grain of salt I'm not even sure where we are going to find some middle ground to even start our discussion on. The way I see it, FOX news is little better than Al-Jazira.

Sure, there is segregation problems. Sure there is ill conceiled racism here and there (especially down south, in for example Malmö). But those are societal problems that stem from alienation and bad integration, not religion. And that is what we're here to discuss isn't it, religion? :>

I mean, religions are pretty stupid and no one here particularly likes them. As religions go this day and age, Islam (and especially political Islam) clearly has the most obnoxious elements and presentations of religion. This still doesn't mean that if a person is a muslim abroad he automatically starts torching cars.

There are more motivations than religion to a persons actions. We as atheist should undoubtedly know this :>

2. On Fitna, the Movie

Comment #178750 by Naug on May 12, 2008 at 2:07 am

Finally! Someone that has a sound perspective on the piece of crap that is Fitna and the state of middle eastern immigrants in Europe. I love Sam Harris I really do, but the picture he paints of the so called "Muslim immigration" into Europe just doesn't correlate too well with reality, the only gripe I have with him. Being a neuro scientist and not a political scientist maybe he should not "pretend to be certain about things which he is not certain about" ;)

Well, cheap puns aside. This is a good article. As a swede I see more middle eastern immigrants wearing wearing jeans and sunglasses than the hijab, and the one's wearing the hijab is usually older women, to whom it surely just is something "they've always done." Rarely is the practice "passed on" to the next generation (but it happens sometimes off course, but the occasional religious nutjob is prevalent everywhere).

Anyway, I feel relieved.

3. Churchgoing on its knees as Christianity falls out of favour

Comment #177358 by Naug on May 9, 2008 at 1:14 am

Dragonfirematrix said:
Why is Islam increasing?

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Because children tend to get their religion from their parents. Not rocket science :>

4. Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks

Comment #175345 by Naug on May 5, 2008 at 9:35 am

Sam Harris wrote:

Meanwhile Kurt Westergaard, one of the Danish cartoonists, threatened to sue Wilders for copyright infringement, as Wilders used his drawing of a bomb-laden Muhammad without permission. Westergaard has lived in hiding since 2006 due to death threats of his own, so the Danish Union of Journalists volunteered to file this lawsuit on his behalf. Admittedly, there is something amusing about one hunted man, unable to venture out in public for fear of being killed by religious lunatics, threatening to sue another man in the same predicament over a copyright violation.

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I would believe that this is because Gerhart Wilders is a right wing quasi racist nutjob and a copyright infringement was probably the only way Westergaad had to kick his shins. Everything is not about how infected religious Islam is at the moment. I would be pissed too if someone used my work without asking me.

Wilders is a moron and the film Fitna is piece of sad propaganda. If you've seen it just consider that it is in fact a 15 minute long appeal to emotion, no way make an argument. Actually, the hallmark of a bad one. Had it been 1 hour longer we might have called it Repelled - No Islam allowed.

But yes it is a travesty that no one wanted to show it due to religious sensibilities and even more so that they recanted it due to threats from the other idiots who wanted the blood of anyone who would publish it on the net.

5. Ore. Court: Boy Has Say in Circumcision

Comment #172701 by Naug on April 30, 2008 at 12:13 am

As a European and a Swede, I have to admit that reading the article feels like I've just fallen down the rabbit hole to crazyland where down is up and up is down.

If the boy doesn't want a piece of his body cut off, then don't. How hard is it?