1. Investigating Atheism

Comment #167546 by coretemprising on April 24, 2008 at 6:45 am

The site seems to present atheists as miserable despairing madmen.

2. Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

Comment #166308 by coretemprising on April 23, 2008 at 5:43 am

..."in the midst of the extreme deprivation, dehumanisation and despair of Auschwitz..."

Whether it's a concentration camp, a flood, being mugged, dying of boils, they rarely seem to mentally come to a full stop to consider the reality they're in, with a righteous indignation. Never that reasonable, "Hey, wait a minute, on the one hand, benevolent Creator, on the other--crap, nothing but painful, endless crap. What's up with that?"
Just how DO they square the painful reality of human living and dying with their idea of a omnipotent, omnicient, good God? The problem of evil concept is never satisfactorily answered by a theist.
Given the reality, and liking things logical, I always get a chuckle out of not believing there is no god, but imagining, and convincing others, that the creator god simply has to be, must be, an evil maggot. Yes, all things considered, that makes sense.

3. British schools are falling for the pseudoscience of Brain Gym. Why fill kids' heads with nonsense?

Comment #160579 by coretemprising on April 14, 2008 at 8:00 am

#21

Brain Gym hasn't made its way to the USA yet, has it?

4. Upside-down church sculpture on hit list

Comment #155285 by coretemprising on April 4, 2008 at 9:52 am

It's more amusing if you know that a steeple is a phallic symbol.

5. Dawkins warns of human extinction

Comment #155234 by coretemprising on April 4, 2008 at 8:55 am

Speaking of ignorance, has anyone here ever asked AD or any of the others if they've read any schorlarly work on the actual history of the (dare I say) creation of the so-called bible? Doing so is a truly enlightening experience, if one wants to be enlightened, that is. Myth writ large it all is, with only a few real people and situations thrown in. Of course, none of the gods were/are real. The evolution (ha!) of the character Yahweh is fascinating. But some want to, you know, dodge all that information.

6. Dawkins warns of human extinction

Comment #155186 by coretemprising on April 4, 2008 at 8:18 am

a christian
on an atheist site
calling himself "Artful_Dodger"
Does anyone else find that amusing?

7. Thy will be done

Comment #154346 by coretemprising on April 3, 2008 at 6:00 am

If you feel compelled to "pledge", and want to keep with the rythym, "one nation under sky..." works well. Plus, it's actually a truth statement.

8. My quest to get de-baptised

Comment #152846 by coretemprising on March 31, 2008 at 4:16 pm

Prankster, I don't know if you're still catholic, but I love your avatar--hysterical!

9. My quest to get de-baptised

Comment #152492 by coretemprising on March 31, 2008 at 6:35 am

If something was done to one in a "baptism" that left a lasting physical scar, say a tatoo or some such, I would be all for eliminating it. But since it is just a bogus ceremony with no attending bodily mark... ? I was both baptised and "confirmed" but of what possible relevance is that today, so many years later? If there was some sort of actual public listing of people who wish to declare their break with what was done to them as children, as Tycho said, I'd be all for it. And my name would be on it. But to expect religious officials to go along with a request for an "unbaptism" is ridiculous, even if imagining their emotional reaction is funny as heck. Closest they'd come to "WTF?" possibly.

Lee, you write as though you are under the thumb of your mother-in-law. I do hope that's not the case--may you not make your own decision for your OWN childrn?

10. Discussion on PZ Myers being expelled from Expelled

Comment #148624 by coretemprising on March 23, 2008 at 12:29 pm

Steve said:

Unfortunately not. Some very bright people can believe utterly crazy things...

11. Discussion on PZ Myers being expelled from Expelled

Comment #148476 by coretemprising on March 23, 2008 at 6:53 am

They just try SO hard to make it real, the poor dears.

12. Discussion on PZ Myers being expelled from Expelled

Comment #148473 by coretemprising on March 23, 2008 at 6:49 am

From Metcalf's site:

"While Dr. Metcalf presents a compelling scientific explanation of the resurrection of Jesus..."

Praise Jeebus!

Steve, can I call THIS one a clueless idiot without further investigation? Thank you.

ROFLMFAO

13. Richard Dawkins' US Tour begins this week

Comment #140960 by coretemprising on March 9, 2008 at 8:05 am

wooter:

"Sorry for the late reply. I have got other commitments on another thread as well."

Uh huh. Just another christian picking up a false sense of self-importance on an atheist message board. Pathetic. As usual.

14. Ayaan Hirsi Ali asks for protection

Comment #128141 by coretemprising on February 16, 2008 at 10:25 am

Count me in for standing in front of people being threatened by agitated mops.

15. Ayaan Hirsi Ali asks for protection

Comment #128098 by coretemprising on February 16, 2008 at 6:55 am

I would not stand between AHA and harm. I suspect those who claim they would are just attempting to seem heroic and "manly." Saying things, anything, is just so easy.

Let's see, who would I jump to protect from, say, a speeding bullet? My son. Is my son good enough for you?

16. Inventor Doesn't Dare Say 'Perpetual Motion Machine'

Comment #124350 by coretemprising on February 9, 2008 at 6:43 am

Some of the credulity on this site is amusing. A few of you need to get a serious grip. Charlatans and crazy people still have an audience, and religion remains respectable, in part because some people can still assert nonsense, and SOME people will still get all pop-eyed over it. "Wow! Look at that! It's so cool! Maybe it's true!" LOL. I would bet a year's income that the article wasn't offered here because people were expected to debate the relative merits... More like comic relief, what?

17. Richard Dawkins on The Late Edition with Marcus Brigstocke

Comment #110120 by coretemprising on January 10, 2008 at 2:08 pm

Steve, you are wrong.

He is much more of a shithead than many many others. The proof is all over this board, annoyingly. He is not willing to find out more. He is here to mock and ridicule. Why don't you see that?

Patting ourselves on the back has nothing to do with it. Giving polite consideration to those who have proven over and over that they are about nothing but contempt, is.

18. Richard Dawkins on The Late Edition with Marcus Brigstocke

Comment #110101 by coretemprising on January 10, 2008 at 1:39 pm

One does have to wonder why.

19. Richard Dawkins on The Late Edition with Marcus Brigstocke

Comment #110099 by coretemprising on January 10, 2008 at 1:38 pm

Some of us still fooling around with the christian shithead ADH I see.

20. Hook, line and rapture

Comment #109471 by coretemprising on January 9, 2008 at 5:34 am

My besotted mother died last month. Thank god, now that I've got her money, no more $50 a month going to the Christian Broadcasting Network. Ack.

21. Hook, line and rapture

Comment #109467 by coretemprising on January 9, 2008 at 5:30 am

brian:

Guys, we Dawkins raiders have been "called out" by the atheists sucks brigade:-)

Give 'em erm .... hell ?

http://atheismsucks.blogspot.com/

22. Hook, line and rapture

Comment #109465 by coretemprising on January 9, 2008 at 5:25 am

Steve Z:

I deleted a slightly sour post that I made earlier. I find Pat Condell a guilty pleasure - a pleasure because he is funny, but guilt because he seems not to approve of soppy atheists like me with my "excuse me, but I happen to think you may be wrong - would like a chat about this?"

23. Is Infant Male Circumcision An Abuse Of The Rights Of The Child?

Comment #96932 by coretemprising on December 11, 2007 at 5:49 am

Reading this thread I was surprised at the number of people ignorant of the fact that circumcision in this country has had little to do with religion and everything to do with the medical profession. If you are interested in the subject, please do yourself a favor and check out this site, and particularly their history slide show.

http://www.icgi.org/medicalization/#Page_1

Other information supporting this history is easy to find, not the least of which would be:

http://www.historyofcircumcision.net/


Really, some of you need to get a little education and not be crying "religiondidit" at every turn. Sometimes, it's not religion.

24. Is Infant Male Circumcision An Abuse Of The Rights Of The Child?

Comment #96691 by coretemprising on December 10, 2007 at 8:39 pm

Hmmmm. Maybe pyota is a medical doctor...
Who performs circumcisions!

25. Richard Dawkins on 'Have Your Say'

Comment #96017 by coretemprising on December 9, 2007 at 6:13 pm

Still with ADH.
Just a few random thoughts from the atheist troll (that would be me).
You'd have to wonder after awhile how he has time for GodFather, Jesus, prayer to both, church, job, bible study, wife, and children, wouldn't you?
Still wondering about the motivation. Hmmm, maybe Jesus told him to come here. You know, like he's infiltrating us or something? Of course, Jesus and GodFather can't change our minds and hearts somehow; they have to "send" someone.
I wonder if he prays before he posts, so as to get it just right. Do you think? Maybe his church and some of his friends are in on it. Maybe they're all praying for us! Now wouldn't that be a hoot? The devil has a strong hold on us though, maybe they need to fast as well! Prayer and fasting together seem to get GodFather's attention better than either alone for some reason. Ooooo, maybe we have DEMONS! Maybe we need exorcisms all of us!
But no, given his tactic, all we need is to be talked to death about Christianity. All we need is to change our minds! He has to prove he's SMARTER than us, that's it! And look, he's trying just SO hard to do that, don't you think?
ADH, why don't you tell us about how we will suffer eternal hell if we don't accept Jesus? Why are you not trying to scare us? Why aren't you trying to convince us that God just loves us so, and look, there's Jesus hanging dead on the cross to prove it! ADH, gee, you'd think that would be enough, right there, wouldn't you? Why oh why can't we see the truth of all this, hmm?

What IS your motive?
Is this your self-appointed "ministry"?
Your personal contribution to the salvation of the world?
Why are you here?

26. Biologist fired for beliefs, suit says

Comment #96013 by coretemprising on December 9, 2007 at 5:39 pm

Yep, ADH is just as much of an annoying, disingenuous idiot on this thread as he is on any other.
Still boring.
And everybody fooling around with him on and on and on and on is still just not giving any consideration to his motive. Are you people ever going to get smart?

27. The art of the soluble

Comment #95791 by coretemprising on December 9, 2007 at 8:09 am

Omigod, I was IMPOLITE to the poor sensitive fellow!

Here, let me try again:

ADH, why don't you just **** off?
You are a ******* idiot.

Better?

28. The art of the soluble

Comment #95789 by coretemprising on December 9, 2007 at 8:02 am

Steve dear, should I mark MYSELF as a troll, and beat you to the punch?

29. The art of the soluble

Comment #95787 by coretemprising on December 9, 2007 at 7:58 am

ADH, why don't you just fuck off?
You are a fucking idiot.

30. Richard Dawkins - Science and the New Atheism

Comment #95508 by coretemprising on December 8, 2007 at 1:29 pm

Brian said: "Since becoming an atheist, I've become acutely conscious of our cats. I really see them in a completely new light, and interact with them as partners, rather than toys. I now see them as biological entities in their own right, with drives, needs and motivations broadly similar to my own."

Brian, I am at a loss to understand why becoming an atheist brought about this change in your thoughts. You still, you know, play with them, don't you? Cats are such funny creatures! Cats and dogs together are hilarious!

31. Richard Dawkins - Science and the New Atheism

Comment #95470 by coretemprising on December 8, 2007 at 12:14 pm

Diacanu, yes! Always had the same question; never've heard an answer. I never wince at the dumb cat who brings dead birds to the front porch, except that I have to clean up the mess.

It looks to me like if everything stopped killing every other thing, "life" as we know it, would cease. So it must be an issue only if humans kill something. Why? Because we can choose another way?

32. Richard Dawkins - Science and the New Atheism

Comment #95457 by coretemprising on December 8, 2007 at 11:40 am

Logicel! Ok, so you're lurking, huh? Sneaky. Thanks much for your agreement; very welcome, very appreciated. You know what's just so very weird? I'm not given to across-the-board politeness either (duh!), I've always liked your posts, and, I'm a morning glory freak. Really. I even grow them indoors in pots in the winter! Ah, "heavenly blue"!

Northern, thanks for all your comments.

Steve, carry on guy. I was not suggesting earlier, actually, that you or your comments were necessarily boring, but just that the actual engagement with yet another theist, was, and you do seem to be the one most, ummm, inclined in that direction. Good luck with the research, and forgive me in advance if I just skip over all that stuff in a bit of an exasperated huff.

33. Richard Dawkins - Science and the New Atheism

Comment #95453 by coretemprising on December 8, 2007 at 11:28 am

Whoo hoo! Re last 20 or so comments... See? Plenty enough fuel for any fire, no theists required!

34. Richard Dawkins - Science and the New Atheism

Comment #95422 by coretemprising on December 8, 2007 at 10:01 am

Diacanu-- I understand. I mourn. Not ready to move on. Thanks anyway, you perspicacious little twit. [said in all affectionate seriousness] ;)
you hurt my iddy biddy widdle feewings earlier.
LOL

35. Richard Dawkins - Science and the New Atheism

Comment #95417 by coretemprising on December 8, 2007 at 9:51 am

krisking--"I'm sure he loves you, really!"

LOL!

No, not really. He might like to THINK he does, he might like everyone to THINK he does, but he doesn't. And nothing lost, by the way.

36. Richard Dawkins - Science and the New Atheism

Comment #95415 by coretemprising on December 8, 2007 at 9:48 am

To all who say we need the theists' opposing opinions, no we don't. The differences between and among atheists is enough, thank you very much.

37. Richard Dawkins - Science and the New Atheism

Comment #95410 by coretemprising on December 8, 2007 at 9:42 am

hey Northern Bright
Your cool and collected posts are always respected, no doubt, and such a contrast to my raving, to be sure. Thanks for responding thus. And I can see your point about having one's intellect piqued, although I find that the real world (so to speak) gives me enough food for thought.
But here is MY point: I have (as have so many others) been subject to nonsensical xtian garbage all of my life, I've been there and done that, and I don't have even the slightest interest in wading through same on the message board of an atheist site. If you might then say that I should just not visit, then what you are proposing in effect is that an atheist should stay away so that a theist can have their foolish voice heard, and those who wish to go round and round and round with their blathering should be allowed, encouraged even, to keep up the good fight, in order to strenghten their arguments. Well, I just don't buy it. In fact, I think that conversations that devolve that way should be put on an alternate thread. Yeah. Really.

I can hardly adequately express my sense of disappointment and annoyance when I see "ADH" pop up on my screen. I'm calmly reading comments of fellow atheists, sipping my coffee perhaps, placidly minding my own business, enjoying like-minded opinions [which there is nothing wrong with, I might add, having been subject to wrong-headed stupidity most all of one's previous life], when--ZAP!--here pops up mr. I'm-a-christian-and-I'm-better-than-you-and-you're-going-to-hell-if-you-don't-repent-of-your-sins-and-accept-jesus-as-your-lord-and-savior and my enjoyment of the moment is lost.

I'd be sure there are others similarly persuaded, but without the nerve to complain as I have.

As I said before, it's like an unwanted invasion. I'm one of the people who hasn't all the knowledge of some, nor all the smart, intelligent arguments (I won't say who I always look for because I don't want them to get a big head about it-lol), but I do enjoy poking in the occasional comment, and I do learn quite a bit from the opinions of the collected minds here.

Someone like ADH having a free rein here just spoils my enjoyment, that's all. It's that simple, and that selfish. I am an atheist surrounded by irrational faith, I have enough of it IRL, I'm sick to death of it, I don't want to hear/see that nonsense on an atheist board, and this is especially hard now considering the season. Sigh. Sometimes I wish I could hibernate or somesuch during the "holidays." Bah humbug!!!

38. Richard Dawkins - Science and the New Atheism

Comment #95380 by coretemprising on December 8, 2007 at 7:58 am

yet another thread of comments muddied up with ADH and Steve. Boring!
so says the atheist troll.
My original question to ADH, deemed so unacceptable in polite internet company, stands.

ADH is not here to learn anything (none of them are) and he mocks atheism and atheists every chance he gets.

Are we having fun yet?

I think I'll go back to just reading the articles. Having ADH here is like having an UNINVITED annoying stranger in your house who's intent to challenge and make wrong everything you say.

I also think the people who go on and on and on with theists here just like to see themselves in print, so to speak, because nothing ever comes of it, even if the thread goes on for months. NO ONE will be convinced of anything in this venue. And, to repeat, they don't want to be either.

To anyone who will listen I say again, if ADH is having his day at the zoo, what does that make you?

One poster I really liked and respected (who's gone now, seemingly) agreed with my previous assessment of this guy, which I will now repeat:

He's a passive-agressive nutter.

But, what the hey, for all who will, enjoy the mockery. Fries with that?

39. Secret Swami - About Sai Baba

Comment #95022 by coretemprising on December 7, 2007 at 7:25 am

Here's another one for anyone interested.
Amrit Desai, kicked out of his own ashram for sexual misconduct. In my 20s I lived in this ashram for 2 years, and left before the conflict here described ensued.

http://www.strippingthegurus.com/stgsamplechapters/desai.asp

But look, he's back!

http://www.amrityoga.org/

I wonder if he's cleaned up his act?
People never learn.

40. Interview with Christopher Hitchens

Comment #94297 by coretemprising on December 5, 2007 at 7:38 am

heh, I think we ought to get ADH and Steve their own private thread.

41. Interview with Christopher Hitchens

Comment #93878 by coretemprising on December 4, 2007 at 11:25 am

LOL!
ADH is a christian, I'm calling him on motive (again, based on the interaction I've had with him previously and his zoo cages comment), and I'm the troll? That's rich!
ADH must be SO amused!

42. Interview with Christopher Hitchens

Comment #93780 by coretemprising on December 4, 2007 at 7:55 am

what's the matter, ADH?
Lacking enough negative attention in the real world these days?

43. Banishing the Green-Eyed Monster

Comment #92058 by coretemprising on November 29, 2007 at 7:48 pm

This all reminds me of my cult days.
It was a cult attempting to follow all of the OT laws. And of course following all the OT examples of conduct.

It turns out the leader of this pathetic group was an inveterate philanderer, but he hit upon the idea that if he pointed out that the OT guys had multiple wives (and/or concubines) and THEY were honored by Yahweh, well then, who are we to think it should be done any differently?

Well, as it turns out, all the men were all rah rah about this development, and all the women were aghast, to put it mildly. In my time there I saw sad utter misery perpetrated as men threw off or put aside loving wives and waved their cocks after other, mostly young, women, brought them into the home and demanded that the "first wife" give the "second wife" (or the third or the fourth) her due respect. I saw many many women despairing and grieved, and children confused and freaked. My own husband, although he didn't disagree with the concept, set his mind to not joining in, allowing that one wife was plenty enough.

For this group of men, all this was about was a justification to act emotionally irresponsibly in the immature pursuit of more than one cunt. Plain and simple. I would guess that across the board in society, it is mostly the same. It is mostly the men that want this "freedom."

44. Pupil defends teacher in Muhammad teddy furore

Comment #91737 by coretemprising on November 29, 2007 at 5:34 am

This whole thing is ridiculous of course, but I must be quite the idiot because I don't understand why the woman did this in the first place. What, has she been in a cave for the past 10 years? Didn't she have any sort of clue that what she did might bring about some sort of "outrage"?

"No, no, Muhammad, we can't name a TEDDY Muhammad, that just wouldn't be right [and I have some bit of interest in retaining my job and my life]."

What a dim bulb she must be.

45. Mitt the Mormon

Comment #91415 by coretemprising on November 28, 2007 at 9:00 am

I had NO idea about the "garments."
That is just so wrong.

46. Why Science Will Triumph Only When Theory Becomes Law

Comment #88183 by coretemprising on November 15, 2007 at 5:12 am

So go sit naked in your garden.

47. Richard Dawkins at AAI 07

Comment #86961 by coretemprising on November 10, 2007 at 4:49 pm

He's still here? He's been going to leave about 5 times now.

ADH, you know what to do about the door on the way out.

48. Richard Dawkins at AAI 07

Comment #86841 by coretemprising on November 10, 2007 at 9:35 am

coretemprising, I agree with your assessment pretty much--conversing with ADH is not my idea of delight either. I see no real difference between the puffed-up inanity of his reasoning than from any other religious believer with whom I have conversed. Though he might have stayed so he could answer questions which his appearance on this site triggered, he did choose to make his appearance in the way he did, which was far from delightful--I do agree with your describing him as a passive-aggressive nutter (with manners and some polish, of course).

49. Richard Dawkins at AAI 07

Comment #86805 by coretemprising on November 10, 2007 at 7:27 am

Steve99, people like ADH who are equiped to back up all their insane, bat shit claims with bogus arguments and evidence, and all of their arguments from (equally insane) authority, really are the dangerous ones. Your warm hearted treatment, along with some others, suggests that you imagine this is all just some sort of silly parlor game with no real consequences out in the real world. Please do enlighten me as to the nature of your "delight." I am sincerely interested.

Personally, I don't think ADH was joking about the zoo; his reference to our "tearing the stuffing..." only strengthens my view.

And, do you really think civility is the highest value in all cases? Isn't this "be nice no matter what" sort of a, you know, Christian thing? And the rest of you, how completely and harmfully and gleefully divorced from reality does a person have to get before your smiles and all your warm fuzzies turn to chills?

I'm open to suggestions. Am **I** the nutter here? ADH will enjoy hearing so, if so. And we do want to give him that satisfaction, surely.

50. Richard Dawkins at AAI 07

Comment #86791 by coretemprising on November 10, 2007 at 6:48 am

You know, I take it all back. People love you here! They have a real, live Christian crazy to practice on. What could be more useful or more fun?