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1. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #103388 by USA_Limey on December 25, 2007 at 11:44 am

Stryer

I've given your points serious thought. Perhaps I have allowed my sense of 'liberty first above all' cloud my judgement on this one. I was aware of Abu Hamza al-Masri, but have read up on him and similar toads alot more and yes, I agree these people should be open to prosecution anbd that 'freedom of speech' in these cases should not be without consequence.

2. Blair converts to Catholicism

Comment #102440 by USA_Limey on December 22, 2007 at 7:33 pm

I campaigned for the Labor Party under Blair in 1997. I knew absolutely nothing about his faith at that time. Would it have changed my decision to campaign for them? Probably not,but later, when we learned the extent to which his faith 'guided' him on decisions such as Iraq I did start to become uneasy about the man.

It most definitely should be a topic open for discussion in future elections.

3. The Pagan Christ

Comment #101956 by USA_Limey on December 21, 2007 at 9:07 am

Can't wait to get home I think I am going to like this...

Christianity has always been a house of cards on a terrible foundation. This is my favourite approach to tackling the religious.

4. Do the laws of God trump those of man?

Comment #101931 by USA_Limey on December 21, 2007 at 7:36 am

Comment #101908 by joeyoap:

I'm with you allan.Why waste your energy on someone you will never convince.


Be we can't know that for sure. Some of our finest posters here have told us they were once believers.

Brian is one of our best - and he used to be a missionary!

So I think its always worth the time to try. Or in my case someone elses time - I just sit back and read the excellent work of Brian, Steve, Epeeist, Doc Benway and many others! Can we ever know what seeds they sow out there....


[EDIT - in a moment of self introspection I realised this was not always my view; so this site has mellowed me. I didn't want any of my 'Dawkins/McGrath/Danielos Geordinos/ posts being thrown back at me. (Though that would have been justified)]

5. For the Love of Christ

Comment #101863 by USA_Limey on December 21, 2007 at 3:35 am

Sigh...

My only thought; this guy really needs to get laid.

6. What Your Brain Looks Like on Faith

Comment #101660 by USA_Limey on December 20, 2007 at 5:29 pm

What is 'human dignity'?

7. 2007, a bad year for God squadders

Comment #101654 by USA_Limey on December 20, 2007 at 4:59 pm

We could have fun with this logic for hours, couldn't we. Each person trying to out-do the other in implausibility


It would end badly.

In an effort to come up with the most implausible stories we'd have to drop a few tabs of LSD to really get our creative juices flowing.

8. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101635 by USA_Limey on December 20, 2007 at 4:16 pm

Doc,

Hell yes. I'm hetero and I wanted Richard Gere to carry me out of that textile factory in 'An officer and a Gentleman!'

Oh hang on.. that was navy pilots.

:-)

9. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101609 by USA_Limey on December 20, 2007 at 3:06 pm

"Please God, let some other bastard take that bullet in the face"

That's what it comes down to.

Nice

10. 2007, a bad year for God squadders

Comment #101604 by USA_Limey on December 20, 2007 at 3:03 pm

The only thing I hate more than the religious part of christmas is the pre-packaged quota of christmas articles that newspaper hacks spew out.

Boring.

11. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101587 by USA_Limey on December 20, 2007 at 2:35 pm

Generally it's the army who are most religious because they have a chance of the superstitous crap seeming to work. If you are on a battlefield getting shot at you can pray and when the guy next to you takes a bullet and you don't well there you are see?

If you're on a submarine or in a plane at 30,000 feet and your sub/plane takes a hit you know you're all fucked so no good praying. Makes for a more realistic outlook knowing you'll share the fate of the man next to you no matter what.

12. Interview with Richard Dawkins: On Christmas

Comment #101576 by USA_Limey on December 20, 2007 at 2:25 pm

[Pedants corner]

Hitler did change the direction of the arms on the swastika.

His went to the right. The Buddhists to the left.

No one knows why. Maybe he wanted to be consistent with his trousers.

13. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101564 by USA_Limey on December 20, 2007 at 2:10 pm

Fighting Falcon..

Back in my days on the American offshore aircraft carrier called Britain I met a few USAF boys from time to time and had a beer or two. Great guys one and all!

I think being stationed abroad has a mellowing effect on most American service people though. The National Guard types who have never left there home State can be real pricks I have found.

.... but i am sure some of them are great too! (tries to pull that one out the fire)

[EDIT - Right on Brian. That's pretty much how I feel about the USM]

14. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101559 by USA_Limey on December 20, 2007 at 2:06 pm

annabanana, I bet it's not dogmatism or militancy that bothers your beau. More likely it's competition for your attention.


Ding ding ding ding! We have a winner!

15. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101535 by USA_Limey on December 20, 2007 at 1:40 pm

Doc...


my husband told me that he'd felt at the mercy of any female he was involved with


I have never met a woman who couldn't crush me like a beer can.

16. Interview with Richard Dawkins: On Christmas

Comment #101528 by USA_Limey on December 20, 2007 at 1:31 pm

Anna,

Given your job, (for the state), you might be right to be cautious.

Fortunately for me I work in the mammon centred corporate world!

:-)

17. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101522 by USA_Limey on December 20, 2007 at 1:26 pm

Comment #101520 by annabanana

Overall, I think it's more a power struggle between the two of us?


Oh that's an easy one! The power is always with the woman.

Why do you think religion is so inherently misogynistic? When he gives up God, he'll give up that power struggle, (and be happier for it!)

:-)

18. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101504 by USA_Limey on December 20, 2007 at 1:03 pm

Also, he was raised in a pretty conservatively (if not fundamentalist) Christian household, so he's come a long way as it is.


Based on that, I would suggest he is holding on for purely kinship reasons. His parents couldn't tolerate atheism, but they'll go along with Deism?

Ah, just throwing that out there, what the hell do I know.


think my roommate and I are the only atheists in the whole city we live in...


No, that is unwarranted pessimism. Remember Hitch, Harris and Dawkins all made the same comments that on their book tours they were constantly being told by people in the 'bible belt' that they thought they were the only atheists UNTIL they showed up to a book event.

Start an atheist group and you'll see.

:-)

19. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101497 by USA_Limey on December 20, 2007 at 12:54 pm

Atheist Cyclists?

Yeah Me.

Though I see the point; a belief in an afterlife and a protecting Deity would be an advantage riding a bike in Urban USA traffic. As it is I feel so terribly alone and vulnerable out there.....

20. Interview with Richard Dawkins: On Christmas

Comment #101489 by USA_Limey on December 20, 2007 at 12:37 pm

A personal anecdote;

My wifes parents are notionally religious; lapsed catholics - my first ever sit down meal with them was still something of a cultural shock for me because they said grace, (I had not one bit of a religious upbringing), I just politely stayed silent but I did not bow my head. It was noticed but nothing said.

I would call that passive participation; If people want to do 'religious stuff' around me that's fine I won't cause a scene. BUT last year at a gathering an awful thing happended, my wifes sister, who is becoming rather a religious baptist, asked all present at the table to join hands for a saying of grace. I said I could not.

This caused quite a stir but in my mind that was crossing over the line from passive to active participation; and I will not actively participate in an act of religious worship.

Just where I draw my own personal line that is all.

21. Interview with Richard Dawkins: On Christmas

Comment #101478 by USA_Limey on December 20, 2007 at 12:21 pm

Who's this Steve Zara chap?

He stole Steve99's avatar!

22. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101473 by USA_Limey on December 20, 2007 at 12:12 pm

Comment #101448 by annabanana

I probably would be more addicted if it weren't for my boyfriend (who isn't an atheist and is sometimes offended by the things on here)


Tell that boyfriend of yours to get with the program! He's missing out on some very smart things his girlfriend is saying that he could learn from.

Nothing less than his complete conversion to atheism is acceptable. You have your orders.

:-)

23. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #101445 by USA_Limey on December 20, 2007 at 11:21 am

Annabanana said:

Yikes! I went home for the day and started a whole debate that I wasn't there for!


Don't worry this just means you are not quite hopelessly addicted yet. This site is like crack cocaine. I'm lucky if I can go a couple hours without logging in these days.

24. Al Qaeda: We're open to questions

Comment #101309 by USA_Limey on December 20, 2007 at 8:03 am

Fortunately USA_Limey quoted it so it's still there for us all to enjoy!



... Once you commit something to the internet it's there FOREVER. MUH HA HA!

But I'll take the wrap for keeping it on the thread - Diacanu you are absolved of guilt my son.

25. Al Qaeda: We're open to questions

Comment #101281 by USA_Limey on December 20, 2007 at 7:14 am

Comment #101270 by Diacanu:

And would you orally satisfy the prince of darkness as hard as you flat out suck here on Earth?
Greedily, and with reckless shameless abandon?

Or, would you suck it tenderly, knowing you had eons to build up to the rough stuff?



I'm at work and that gave me a hard on you bastard.

;-)

[EDIT - OK post missing now - thought better of it did ya!]

26. Whale 'missing link' discovered

Comment #101241 by USA_Limey on December 20, 2007 at 6:16 am

Keep this stuff coming I love it.

Exactly the kind of article that finds a perfect home with a website set up by RD.

Thanks.

27. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #100900 by USA_Limey on December 19, 2007 at 2:53 pm

Comment #100892 by Styrer:

Annabanana was in fact responding to my question


Sorry - that means I can't comment?


Coulter's comment is, in stark contrast, arguably incitement to racial or ethnic hatred


I couldn't care less if she calls for me and my family to be hung drawn and quatered.

As long as I still have the right to respond in kind.

28. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #100883 by USA_Limey on December 19, 2007 at 2:11 pm

Comment #100816 by annabanana:

We have free speech, so unfortunately, Ann Coulter can go on saying whatever she wants and she did say this along with a lot of other hateful, inciteful, inhumanely gross things


Just remember annabanana the first amendment cuts both ways. It also allows people like Christopher Hitchens to say that Jerry Falwell was an odious toad who could be given an enima and buried in a matchbox. I liked hitch saying that about the despicable Falwell, but if he gets to say that, Coulter gets to say whatever she wants to. There is nothing 'unfortunate' about her right to say those things therefore.

It is infact essential that she can.

29. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #100881 by USA_Limey on December 19, 2007 at 2:05 pm

Yeah, I know Ron Paul is crazy as all hell, I just liked the quote nand thought it apt in the context of the article.

30. Religious Freedom in Military Questioned

Comment #100811 by USA_Limey on December 19, 2007 at 11:27 am

"When Fascism comes, it will be wrapped in a flag, and carrying a cross"

- Ron Paul, (Paraphrasing James Madison)

31. Clegg 'does not believe in God'

Comment #100781 by USA_Limey on December 19, 2007 at 10:23 am

Political honesty in these matters is a long road and a tortuous process.

Britain is much further along than the USA, but not as far as some European countries. Overall the trend is positive and inexorable.

32. Jesus ad angers church groups

Comment #100647 by USA_Limey on December 19, 2007 at 3:43 am

Whilst agreeing with all above, I think we should acknowledge a double standard here. Makers of this kind of advertisement would not give Islam the same treatment and we all know why.

In that sense I think the Christians have a right to get sniffy.

Doc, sorry about your cat. I'm a cat lover; check out the talking cats vid on u-tube it's becoming something of a phenomenon. Last time I looked over a 1.5 million people had viewed it.

{EDIT} couldn't resist looking again myself, holy crap it's up top almost 6 million views now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3U0udLH974

33. This Week's Flea

Comment #100335 by USA_Limey on December 18, 2007 at 2:01 pm

It is sad that we will all die not ever seeing the day that the human race finally grows up and faces reality.


It's a long shot but it could happen that in our lifetime all this nonsense goes away.

How?

Simple. ET shows up, shows us video footage of himself tinkering with some ape DNA to create us, says, "hi, were back, how you been doing since we saw you last - oh no bad, made a few decent advances but best drop that religious crap eh? Oh - here's the secret to faster than light travel come join us in the galactic community".


Well - that's how it goes in my head anyway.

34. Way of the Master Radio talks about Dawkins' Christmas Comments

Comment #100244 by USA_Limey on December 18, 2007 at 12:20 pm

Oh, there are Christian stations up and down the dial where ever you live in the States. My local version is 'word FM'.

I tune in now and again when I need to empty my mind of thought. Dawkins does get mentioned a fair bit and I agree with Bruno, they hate him.

All good stuff.

35. Abstinence Programs Face Rejection

Comment #100217 by USA_Limey on December 18, 2007 at 11:45 am

The more I think about this the more I wish I was a teenager again in the midst of all this.

I'd have great fun telling my girlfriends; "it's ok - we can get naked together - we've both taken vows of abstinence so you know nothing is going to happen"


Ahhh.... such missed opportunities.

36. Borders Tags Atheist Book with 'O Come All Ye Faithless' Cards

Comment #100208 by USA_Limey on December 18, 2007 at 11:38 am

It's another thing to take a Christian festival and abuse it.


*** Quick time warp ***

... Circa, 1,800 years ago.


Pagan: "Damn Christians, taking our winter soltice festival and abusing it"


:-)

37. Abstinence Programs Face Rejection

Comment #100093 by USA_Limey on December 18, 2007 at 8:30 am

Insisting horny teenagers resist all temptation until they get married is the very definition of stupidity IMHO.

On another point I've often thought that western society has created an artificial situation where adulthood is delayed for far too long in some cases. Too many teenagers are straining against the bit in their mid teens where a hundred years ago they could have gone to work, gotten married, joined the navy, basically explored alot more options than are seemingly available to them now. Extended education is not for everyone.

And finally, if God set things up so teens have been through puberty and are beginning to get curious who are we to question?

38. God rest you merry atheist

Comment #100002 by USA_Limey on December 18, 2007 at 3:40 am

'Tis the season folks.

Journalists have a quota to fill.

Moving on, moving on...

39. Dawkins: I'm a cultural Christian

Comment #99730 by USA_Limey on December 17, 2007 at 12:37 pm

I think Conservative MP Mark Pritchard will find that indifference, apathy and consumerism are more the root cause of any 'undermining' of christmas, rather than some sinister agenda of the 'politically correct'.

Always good for a few votes from the Tory blue rinse brigade though.

40. Synthetic DNA on the Brink of Yielding New Life Forms

Comment #99701 by USA_Limey on December 17, 2007 at 10:56 am

Can't wait for them to come up with their own artifically created bacterial flagellum.

41. THE FOUR HORSEMEN - Available Now on DVD!

Comment #99555 by USA_Limey on December 17, 2007 at 3:38 am

Comment #99500 by empyrean:

It would be wonderful if Fox News would play this during the O'Reilley time slot


Please don't hold your breath empyrean.

Anyway, what we had here were four great thinkers who broadly agree but have some differences of opinion and emphasis.

Now try imagining four theists who broadly agree, (on the existence of God), but have some differences of opinion and emphasis, (Catholic, Mormon, Muslim, Evangelical), and imagine how that conversation would have gone compared to our four protaganists.

I conducted that thought experiment and any minor qualms I had with the arguments of one or more of our guys melted away.

42. THE FOUR HORSEMEN - Available Now on DVD!

Comment #99277 by USA_Limey on December 16, 2007 at 8:28 am

ADH,

You are so insular it's painful to read your words.

Have you no concept of a wider world 'out there' that does extremely well thank you very much without any of the 'grace of god' you seem to think is vital.

Take Japan for example. Over 127 million Japanese crammed in a relatively small space, (relative to the USA), with vastly lower crime rates and hardly any of them Christian or a believer in any kind of monotheistic God.

How do you explain that?

You need to realise that there is a wider picture, both historically and geographically that you are just not seeing.

Merry Christmas to you.

43. THE FOUR HORSEMEN - Available Now on DVD!

Comment #99127 by USA_Limey on December 15, 2007 at 5:03 pm

I'm not biting harth.

I hope the rest of us won't either.

44. THE FOUR HORSEMEN - Available Now on DVD!

Comment #99118 by USA_Limey on December 15, 2007 at 4:22 pm

vulgar schistosome Ayaan Hirsi Ali



Hmmmm... harth,

You register today and your first two posts are immediately aggressive and extremely rude; this the DAY after Ruht is banned....

.. coincidence anyone?


Anyway, flagged as a troll as far as I am concerned.

45. Creation college seeks state's OK to train teachers

Comment #99116 by USA_Limey on December 15, 2007 at 4:15 pm

DON'T PANIC!

The catholic church accepts evolution.

So... when Mexico takes back Texas - PROBLEM SOLVED.

I hope I've put all your minds at ease.

46. THE FOUR HORSEMEN - Available Now on DVD!

Comment #98869 by USA_Limey on December 14, 2007 at 7:26 pm

Hour three was the drinking competition but it wasn't filmed.

47. U.S. Congress Recognizing the importance of Christmas and the Christian faith

Comment #98829 by USA_Limey on December 14, 2007 at 2:10 pm

Sorry to disagree with you but before the federal government was established the states were founded on Christian laws and traditions.


Just a question, I am not trying to be a smart ass because I really don't know:

What are these "Christian Laws"?

48. Voyager 2 probe reaches solar system boundary

Comment #98826 by USA_Limey on December 14, 2007 at 2:00 pm

BTW, that Captain Kirk joke was hilarious!


Thanks, I am here all weekend and am available for birthdays and Bar Mitzvahs

49. Why Science Will Triumph Only When Theory Becomes Law

Comment #98819 by USA_Limey on December 14, 2007 at 1:40 pm

Upon further review, Ruht will be banned for blatantly trolling


On balance this seems like the best outcome; though of course he has just been made a martyr and I am sure he will now wear his "banned from richarddawkins.net" T-Shirt with pride!

Poor old Ruht.

50. Why Science Will Triumph Only When Theory Becomes Law

Comment #98736 by USA_Limey on December 14, 2007 at 7:04 am

I really want to talk to Ruht about Jesus Christ.

Ruht?

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