Comments by Apathy personified

451. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #215490 by Apathy personified on July 22, 2008 at 2:31 am

Ha - Next years GR and QFT lecture courses would certainly be more interesting if the lecturer suddenly started calling things 'absolute wank' and refering to other scientists as 'fucktards'.

Science with attitude.... so instead of writing strongly worded letters to the times, they'd write to NME magazine? :)

452. Richard Dawkins on Al Jazeera English

Comment #215352 by Apathy personified on July 21, 2008 at 5:10 pm

1. Comment #215342 by ukvillafan on July 21, 2008 at 4:56 pm
Please make a comment about the interview.

It kinda felt like the interviewer was setting up RD for answers, rather than asking searching questions, though it was a better interview than most.
I just get the feeling that these interviews all deal with the same questions and know exactly what they are gonna get as an answer.

453. Surgeon General Nominee Dismisses Homosexuality Paper

Comment #215323 by Apathy personified on July 21, 2008 at 4:18 pm

Auraboy,
Get your coat, looks like you've pulled...

He may be trying to backtrack on his paper now, but has he said why he originally wrote it?

Edit: Spelling

454. The brain in love

Comment #215312 by Apathy personified on July 21, 2008 at 3:59 pm

"It's not the side-effects of the Cocaine. I'm thinking that it must be love"

Ha - Having never done cocaine or been in love - i couldn't possibly comment.:)

A great deal is placed upon 'love', as if it is the most important thing in the world. From the outside it just seems like it's a (maybe self-induced?) state of mind.
I think my opinion of marriage was made quite clear in my other comments on this thread.

455. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #215220 by Apathy personified on July 21, 2008 at 1:53 pm

I am NOT collecting kittens to make hats. This is NOT part of a plan to breed felines to avoid peak oil!

So you say... we are not angry, we just want to join in your diabolical scheme.

456. The brain in love

Comment #215180 by Apathy personified on July 21, 2008 at 1:06 pm

whitepearl,
I HATE ceremony of any sort, i'm really not big on dressing up and showing off - weddings are a definition of hell for me. I'm fully aware that weddings tend to be more important for the gal, who gets to be centre stage - however, it's refreshing to hear a female who isn't so needy.

Also, if i like where i am - i don't need a legal contract to keep me there, i don't shirk responsibilies. Yet the IDEA of being trapped in a legal contract where i know i'll get hammered if i try and break free is more likely to make me want to 'get the hell out' - does that make sense?

I very much agree with your point about inequality in some divorces - you are not as alone on your opinions on marriage as you think.

457. The brain in love

Comment #215148 by Apathy personified on July 21, 2008 at 12:00 pm

gcdavis,
I wouldn't recommend it. :)

I always thought i was the only one whose view of their future happiness wasn't shackled into the idea that i HAVE to get married and have kids at some point. Nice to know that some other people think along similar lines.

I'm not necesarily against having kids, but i can't see me ever planning for them and i certainly don't need my own kids to fulfil some 'inner completeness' - marriage, well if i ever want tax breaks, i'll think about it.

458. Nine face stoning death in Iran

Comment #215105 by Apathy personified on July 21, 2008 at 9:46 am

I could see the ABoC throwing a few rocks

Al, you are assuming that the ABoC can actually throw. He strikes me as the kid who got badly bullied at school and didn't do P.E. (physical education) because he couldn't run, catch or throw properly.

459. The brain in love

Comment #215080 by Apathy personified on July 21, 2008 at 8:46 am

hungarianelephant,
I've never watched any of the tv series and i point blank refuse to see the film. However, based on reviews of the film - Ouch, unlucky, you have my sympathies.

gcdavis,
Love is...
Not calling her by her sisters name

460. The brain in love

Comment #215060 by Apathy personified on July 21, 2008 at 8:26 am

Oh, and I'd recommend not running across Terminal 4. The police seem to be a bit trigger happy these days.

Haha - i now have a new idea for a high concept film, combine love actually with Total Recall.

Picture the scene, Hugh Grant charging across the airport to stop the love of his life flying off forever when - SMASH!, a rifle butt weilded by a Met Policeman collides with his face - down he goes. He is then arrested and held for 42 days on terrorism charges which are subsequently dropped.
fin

I try to avoid all chick lit and chick flicks - though maybe i should know my enemy.....

While on poetry....
'The Shattered mirror that left glass on the floor,
Her quick exit that left an up-turned bedroom,
The memory of her screaming still burns my ears,
If only i'd put the lid back on the toothpaste'

461. The brain in love

Comment #214931 by Apathy personified on July 21, 2008 at 4:32 am

21. Comment #214927 by hungarianelephant on July 21, 2008 at 4:19 am

First,

Yes, but apparently a "tongue in cheek" comment in response to a "tongue in cheek" comment doesn't come across well over the interwebs ;)

Touche :) - Serves me right for trying to be clever and funny at the same time, although i don't think i did either.

Second,

Blaming vested interests is like trying to explain the origins of religion by reference to the wealth and power of the 13th century church.

That's fair enough.

The semi - serious point i was trying to make is how it is portrayed in modern culture. I was taking a swing at a lot of modern literature, films and all other crap that sells this gross caricature of a thing, which, i'm sure, had/has an evolutionary advantage attached to it.

As you are one of the intelligent posters on here and you may not have got what i was on about - i'd have to say it's a swing and a miss from me.

462. The brain in love

Comment #214921 by Apathy personified on July 21, 2008 at 4:06 am

15. Comment #214914 by hungarianelephant on July 21, 2008 at 3:38 am

Maybe brainwashing? Consistantly ramming it down our throats? If you made films about people wearing tin hats, showing how great it was, wrote novels where people are only 'happy' at the end when they finally get their own tin hat, etc. - now do that for 120 years - kinda pushes it into the mainstream culture (a meme, maybe?)
However, I wouldn't know, i don't harbour any illusions about 'love' - if i suddenly have a mad dash accross Heathrow terminal 4 to stop someone getting onto a plane - i'll let you know.

Also, are you aware of the concept of 'tongue in cheek' comment?

463. Antony Flew reviews the Index of The God Delusion

Comment #214903 by Apathy personified on July 21, 2008 at 3:18 am

Richard,
Hmm, very good point.
Though i'm sure this isn't the first time that someone has used a well known name to publicise there own views - i guess maybe it's similar to the argument from authority, 'You have to believe him, he's written books before you know'.

What's sad is that there was no one around Flew to advise him against this.

464. The brain in love

Comment #214897 by Apathy personified on July 21, 2008 at 2:48 am

*groan*
Ahhh, they're in love, so sweet!
Bollocks, bollocks i say!
To quote a leading modern philosopher,
'What's love got to do, got to do with it, what's love but a second hand emotion' - Tina Turner

Call me cynical, but love is just a load of claptrap made up by Jane Austin (Oh, Mr D'Arcy!), then subsequetly sold on to card companies and Disneyland (don't get me started on Disney).

465. Nine face stoning death in Iran

Comment #214692 by Apathy personified on July 20, 2008 at 7:10 pm

Carto - I think (no evidence to back this up, pure speculation) jealousy and personal insecurities are very widespread in most societies, just some societies train people to deal with them better.
Stoning a women to death for adultery (assuming she was a willing participant) sends a powerful message to other women - especially ones wife, so maybe it would benefit a man to stone another women to death, as a threat towards his wife.

(I don't agree with stoning women to death, btw - just speculating on why killing people for adultery came about)

466. Nine face stoning death in Iran

Comment #214664 by Apathy personified on July 20, 2008 at 6:29 pm

Carto - The simple answer would be jealousy, possibly linked to personal insecurities. However, there are probably deeper and more complex issues.

467. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #214650 by Apathy personified on July 20, 2008 at 6:21 pm

whitepearl,
no worries.

468. Nine face stoning death in Iran

Comment #214648 by Apathy personified on July 20, 2008 at 6:16 pm

kkelly,
Not cool - what's your problem?

469. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #214617 by Apathy personified on July 20, 2008 at 5:11 pm

phil,
Cool - I've done a bit on both - prefer plasma by far.
What does a technologist do?

470. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #214604 by Apathy personified on July 20, 2008 at 4:49 pm

Teratornis,
No - I'd mark them irrelevant if i could, but not offensive.

phil,
What area of physics were you in before? (i'm a theory undergrad)

Radesq,
The 'muscles from brussels'? - Ok, i'll accept.

Edit: Spelling (thanks Mitchell - i should probably stop drinking and watching family guy as i do this)

471. Antony Flew reviews the Index of The God Delusion

Comment #214583 by Apathy personified on July 20, 2008 at 4:20 pm

Laurie,
How were your pope related adventures? Were you one of those throwing condoms at catholics? (*immature man giggle*)

472. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #214575 by Apathy personified on July 20, 2008 at 4:08 pm

Radesq,
While we are dividing stars from 80's films between atheists and theists....
Do atheists get Arnie or Sly Stallone?

I do like asking deep philosophical questions, i know.

473. Nine face stoning death in Iran

Comment #214572 by Apathy personified on July 20, 2008 at 4:06 pm

kraut,
Nobody is suggesting the US is perfect (i'm a Britisher, btw) - but that doesn't exclude us from being outraged that people are being STONED TO DEATH for adultery.

Also, I don't like the idea that people should be excluded from having opinions because of nationality.

474. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #214562 by Apathy personified on July 20, 2008 at 3:48 pm

Radesq,
Haha :) - However, I do think, as atheists, we need someone who can do sound effects like the dude from the police academy films.

475. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #214554 by Apathy personified on July 20, 2008 at 3:41 pm

whitepearl,
'Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it, you'd have good people doing good things and evil people doing bad things, but for good people to do bad things, it takes religion.' ~ Steven Weinberg

I got it from http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Religion
some real jems in there.

476. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #214531 by Apathy personified on July 20, 2008 at 3:17 pm

physicist,
No need to say sorry, on the quality of that post, please post more.

I think the problem is that although everyone and everything has irrational thoughts/moments, etc. religion positively encourages it, basks in it, where as in other situations maybe you are more likely to be challenged.

477. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #214493 by Apathy personified on July 20, 2008 at 2:16 pm

Mitchell,
I'm not so much a recluse, just an out and out wanker - i have a nasty habit of opening my mouth and speaking my mind, so you can see why i had nothing to contribute to the talks about friends earlier.

Whitepearl,
In my more pessimistic moments i think of rational thought like small pox, erradicated everywhere except a few isolated, controlled areas (labs).

478. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #214482 by Apathy personified on July 20, 2008 at 2:04 pm

joe,
Seek Help

479. Antony Flew reviews the Index of The God Delusion

Comment #214480 by Apathy personified on July 20, 2008 at 2:02 pm

he has since announced his intention to retire

Isn't it a mandatory retirement?

or rather lack of contents

Hmm, maybe people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones?

apparently deliberate refusal to present the doctrine

He did, very early on. Also, it is very difficult to do this, as he would get the response, 'That's NOT my religion he's talking about'.

a secularist bigot

That can go on the list with; strident, evangelical atheist, etc.

480. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #214277 by Apathy personified on July 20, 2008 at 5:08 am

joebot the incredibable trolling machine,
I thought i told you to stay under your bridge? Can you give me the link to the peer reviewed scientific papers that back up your assertions? I couldn't give a flying fuck about opinions, i want objective, reproducable evidence.
Seek Help joe.

Steve,
Have you not heard, all the dead scientists are rising up again - Next week we get Feynmann, time to party!

481. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #214069 by Apathy personified on July 19, 2008 at 12:57 pm

Buwahahaha!
What did I miss?
epeeist, *standing ovation*

joe,
You deluded idiot.
All you can do is copy and paste, you have shown no thought, intelligence or any characteristics of what would pass as human.
I'd call Turing test on you but your misogynistic tendancies gave you away for the fuckhead you are.
When you have real proof - science is not about words or opinions, it's about experimental results - come back, until that time, fuck right off buttercup.
It amuses me that you think you are anything more than a small dead bug in the very corner of a large windscreen.
Seek help.

482. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #213949 by Apathy personified on July 19, 2008 at 9:01 am

Joe,
You didn't need to, it was implied by the wording.

The west only caters to money and profit to the degradation and selling of their Mothers, daughters and sisters in the name of so-called art.

My emphasis.

You can't sell what you don't own.
Has it not occured to you that some women may have their own plans about their life, plans that don't fit in with your narrow world viewpoint?

483. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #213942 by Apathy personified on July 19, 2008 at 8:53 am

Joe,
You seem to be basing all your arguments on the flawed premise that women need protecting and looking after (i.e. being owned) by men.

484. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #213925 by Apathy personified on July 19, 2008 at 8:30 am

thewhitepearl,
I've got 2 entries on the jokers list but none on the cowboy list, now THAT'S disapointment.

485. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #213921 by Apathy personified on July 19, 2008 at 8:28 am

I guess our chances of Joe;
1. Thinking for himself
2. Actually providing evidence for his numerous wild assertions
3. Quoting the source when he copies and pastes large sections
4. Answer the questions directed at him

are slim to none and slim doesn't look to healthy.

486. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #213908 by Apathy personified on July 19, 2008 at 8:13 am

*Suddenly, that Celine Dion song from Titantic starts playing*

Near, far, where-ever you are...

joe,
Why should the women have to cover up to be respected for what they say?

487. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #213902 by Apathy personified on July 19, 2008 at 7:58 am

tangerine_tree,
empty beer cans can be recylced, they have a use.:)

joe on the other hand is no use to anyone, least of all himself.
joe, you troll, get back under your bridge.

488. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #213855 by Apathy personified on July 19, 2008 at 5:12 am

I personally can't wait for 'The Genius of Charles Darwin' to be shown, RD is the man when it comes to science on TV (my evidence, his RI christmas lectures and 'The enemies of Reason') - in fact, hopefully the whole Darwin program of events will actually explain what evolution is - never has a scientific theory been so woefully misunderstood by so many, who then form opinions on it.

489. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #213625 by Apathy personified on July 18, 2008 at 5:07 pm

8teist,
Don't tease, how could they possibly work out a double digit IQ, you know numbers aren't their strong point, what with confusing 6 billion and 6 thousand.

Carto,
Pack is charged up, but DON'T cross the beams!

490. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #213603 by Apathy personified on July 18, 2008 at 4:31 pm

Good Morning Goldy

491. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #213600 by Apathy personified on July 18, 2008 at 4:29 pm

isthatclear,
You wouldn't be clearmind, would you?

492. The Return of Religion

Comment #213598 by Apathy personified on July 18, 2008 at 4:26 pm

While we are on the subject of new music - James Blunt anyone?

493. Texas State Board of Education approves Bible course for high schools

Comment #213551 by Apathy personified on July 18, 2008 at 2:46 pm

Sophie,

What if there is one mormon sitting in with those students as well?

Ha - I guess the magic underpants would certainly get in a twist.
They could well be opening a Pandora's box here.

494. Texas State Board of Education approves Bible course for high schools

Comment #213531 by Apathy personified on July 18, 2008 at 2:28 pm

Ian,
I wonder what would happen if the bible class was taught with the 'wrong' interpretation - say if it's given the pentecostal treatment, when half the kids in the class are from baptist families?

What sort of legal issues does that raise?

495. The Return of Religion

Comment #213520 by Apathy personified on July 18, 2008 at 2:18 pm

Gregg,
I had to wiki that - Are you referring to him or the BASEketball stuff?

Just a small town girl,
Living in a lonely world,
She took a midnight train going annnyyywheree

496. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #213513 by Apathy personified on July 18, 2008 at 2:12 pm

Joe,
You are a first class idiot - you have nothing to contribute to any discussion, you have presented no evidence, you have been a misogynistic fuckface of the highest order.
The only thing you have proven is that you are totally incapable of independent thought.

Kindly take the hint and fuck off.

Also, what is your definition of style??

497. The Return of Religion

Comment #213504 by Apathy personified on July 18, 2008 at 2:05 pm

Dhamma,
Hmmm, maybe i should revisit them then, i haven't heard them for a few years now.

Greatest band ever: I would have to dispute the claim from Nirvana -
I would put Queen, Pink Floyd and maybe Journey (ok, last one is a joke) up - although my musical knowledge is shockingly poor so my opinion carries little weight in this discussion.

498. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #213467 by Apathy personified on July 18, 2008 at 1:22 pm

Joe,
You need to quote the source of where you have copied that from - otherwise it shows you up as deceitful and a fuckface - not what allah wants.

It'd be 'interested' to hear YOUR opinion on something other than females on this site - Why did you convert to islam? What makes you qualified to disregard and dispute all other religions and all scientific knowledge in a debate?

Can you explain, in YOUR words, what is false about evolution?

Edit: By interested, i mean i'm doing a science experiment, Hypothesis: Joe is incapable of independent thought.

499. The Return of Religion

Comment #213455 by Apathy personified on July 18, 2008 at 1:16 pm

Dhamma,
Were/Are you a fan of Audioslave? I thought Soundgarden plus Rage = Amazing, but i don't think it ever really worked, though i've only heard their first album

500. Calling World Conference on Dialogue a Symbol of Unity Among Different Traditions

Comment #213441 by Apathy personified on July 18, 2008 at 1:04 pm

Interesting ... i've always thought that every religion worked on the assumption that 'we are right, the rest are wrong' - that seems like a pretty intractable situation.
However, if the talks are, 'We agree to disagree and we won't attack you, if you don't attack us' then i guess it's worth it, for now anyway.

This seems to be treating religions like cultural groups - not belief systems - i know they are both but the UN and all other bodies need to be openly honest and say that 'These are non commutable operators here, there is guarenteed to be issues' instead of pretending it's solely down to misunderstanding each other.