501. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188564 by al-rawandi on June 4, 2008 at 7:54 am

Stop feeding the troll!

502. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188529 by al-rawandi on June 4, 2008 at 7:25 am

elephant,






It would naturally go both ways. His girlfriend would be free to fellate Mr. Ed.



I wouldn't tell your wife any of this. But then again, I wouldn't even get married, I am just trying to keep variegation in the gene pool if you get my drift.

503. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188521 by al-rawandi on June 4, 2008 at 7:09 am

irate,






Evidence of the foregone conclusion of an idiot, constantly changing arguments. First it is adoption, then it is sheep shagging. "I hate gay people, let's see which argument sticks".

504. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188515 by al-rawandi on June 4, 2008 at 7:05 am

Appleby,





Did it ever occur to you that the equipment for sex is evolved to work only with other members of the species?


Or would you mind your girlfriend getting slammed by an elephant dong?

505. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #188513 by al-rawandi on June 4, 2008 at 7:04 am

Mom was gunned down simply for speaking up.




I am shocked that John McCain still thinks things are "going well" and we can establish civilized democracy.

506. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188509 by al-rawandi on June 4, 2008 at 7:01 am

epeeist,





You can get amino acids in supplement form. For instance, after every workout I take Branch Chain Amino Acids, but the fact remains, that even though the nutrition industry has made amazing supplements, the best way to get nutrition is through food.

For instance protein absorbtion rates are highest in eggs and fish. It is hard to get these levels of absorbtion elsewhere, if not impossible. Like I said, one can be a vegetarian and be just fine, but they won't be able to achieve tip top performance or physique. I have respect for vegetarians, they way I respect anyone who takes a principled stand, but I don't think it is sensical to say it is "all the same" in terms of dietary value.


Also protein concentration is higher in meat as well. For instance Mr. Olympia winner Jay Cutler eats 5 lbs. of fish per day (mostly Orage Roughy). He would never be able to take in an equivalent amount of protein with another substance, while maintaining protein absorbtion rates as high as with fish.

But I should say my goals are different from most people, I lift 5 days a week and eat 275-300 grams of protein per day. Others don't share these goals and this is fine.

507. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188492 by al-rawandi on June 4, 2008 at 6:47 am

Quetz,






I rather wish it was women that found me irresistable, but I will take what I can get. Although I couldn't date him, I would be worried he would be seeing a possum on the side.

508. Town moves against Islamic school

Comment #188491 by al-rawandi on June 4, 2008 at 6:44 am

Fanusi,






The ranks swelled through conversion.


And besides this, I already said the Islamic empire was spread by military adventure.

You also ignored the case of Indonesia, there was no Muslim army, no Caliphate, it was mass conversion.

509. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188479 by al-rawandi on June 4, 2008 at 6:26 am

epeeist,






I mean no disrespect, but that vegetarian thing is nonsense IMHO.


The reason is that amino acids are different in plants than they are in meat, for a truly healthy and balanced diet one needs both plant amino acids as well as animal. And as for tofu, it has an estrogen like substance in it which can have some unpleasant effects on the endocrine system.

So meat is necessary for a proper diet, but one can certainly live a life that is healthy without it. But if you look at any peak performers in the exertion sports... football (American or British), bodybuilding, etc... Meat is a necessary and ubiquitous part of the diet. Certainly no bodybuilder could survive as a vegetarian, and very few performance athletes have ever managed it, and those that did suffered major damage to their bodies.

510. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188470 by al-rawandi on June 4, 2008 at 6:09 am

All,








If anyone has noticed, Appleby flails about. Firing all potential arguments off that he can. This is a good clue.

When someone has arrived at a logical conclusion they usually have some process of logic which they can recount. If you look at people who have dogmatic a priori beliefs (conclusions) they generally will try any crazy argument that comes to mind, and as each are shot down they move on to the next.

When someone tries this many arguments, most of which are ad hoc, it suggests to me that they are trying to support a conclusion they have arrived at long ago, without evidence or argument. It is a common theme in both theism and bigotry, two of the most pernicious forms of dogma.


So our friend here has tried:

1) Unfit to raise children
2) Not the norm.
3) Same as bestiality.


Can anyone remember any of the other arguments clumsily deployed by this half wit?



Appleby,


Pick one argument and stick with it. You are just throwing things at a wall and hoping it sticks.

511. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188468 by al-rawandi on June 4, 2008 at 6:06 am

Steve,





This guy is so incredibly dumb as to put wooter in the running for a Nobel Prize in literature.


Animal flesh contains protein and invaluable amino acids that are necessary to human muscle development and health. Without eating animals humans would have been unlikely to survive in their environment. Thus eating meat is a necessary part of the human diet.

I doubt appelby can demonstrate sex with an animal is necessary to human survival.

512. Town moves against Islamic school

Comment #188460 by al-rawandi on June 4, 2008 at 5:47 am

Fanusi,

This is why both Wikipedia and the Encyclopaedia Britannica say the same thing. Islam has always spread by the sword.


This is somewhat misleading. The Islamic empire was spread through military conquest. However the conquerers maintained forces in garrison towns leaving local religion and justice systems in place. The only instance of forced converssion was in Bukhara.

In fact the largest Muslim country, Indonesia, is somewhere no Muslim army ever went. The largest vehicle of Islam was spirituality. However it is fair to say that the economic and social apartheid implemented by Islamic rulers made conversion the only option to most minorities. Otherwise the system was too oppressive.

513. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188271 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 3:05 pm

I responded.




He is just sad. He acts like it is so awful to do research on the internet, like where I tracked down Jerusalem Post articles.


Why does he think newspapers have an online edition? Does he expect me to book a flight to Tel Aviv and pick up the fucking evening edition?


At 6'5" 250 lbs, I don't really worry much about internet cowards showing up on my door step. Besides if he reads through other threads he will find my staunch defense of 2nd Amendment rights. He is better off keeping up with online anti-semitic rants, and not go looking for trouble.

514. Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks

Comment #188268 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 3:00 pm

righton,





Thanks for reposting what the Greek wrote before he could go back and edit out all the nasty bits without note. I have always been honest about what I posted.




Greek,




The most comical thing about you is that you think it is illicit to look up a Ha'aretz article online. You act like it is so dishonest to use the internet for research. What do you want me to do fly to fucking Tel Aviv and pick up the Sunday edition? Want to check my fingers for ink stains?


Now we are done with your comedy, we can start with your out and out lies. Here is what I said, and you simply omitted from your response:

You leave out the fact that Azmi Bishara spoke at a memorial for Hafez al-Assad, and made glowing remarks about Hezbollah. How would a US congressman be treated if he/she went to a country that was de facto at war with the US and praised a group dedicated to the destruction of the US. A group that also said that the US spreads AIDS intentionally (as Hezbollah said of Jews)? This congressman would be instantaneously evicted from his/her seat. Should this happen, I don't know, would this happen, absolutely.


This isn't the end. Bishara visited Syria once again, telling his audience that Israel may launch an offensive attack on Syria. His party (Balad, perhaps you could look up the connotations of this word in Arabic) made supportive statements of Hezbollah on visits to Lebanon.

Quoted in the Jerusalem post the Balad MK's Azmi Bishara, Jamal Zahalka, and Wasal Taha told Fuad Saniora that Hezbollah's resistance "lifted the spirit of the Arab people". This was a "solidarity mission". The same article notes the treasonous act of Bishara warning Syria of potential Israel attacks.

Not finished, Bishara also spoke of Syria' struggle to free "occupied Arab land" and praised Syrian support for "resistance to occupation". Syria the very same country that has sought to destabilize Lebanon. That has assassinated Lebanese politicians. The very same.

It has been a law, since 1948 in Israel to incite violence against that state, and to lend support (verbal or physical) to terrorism. This law has been around for a great long while.

These statements he made in support of various terrorist organizations and states are quoted in Ynet, the Jeruslaem Post, among others. He was praising a terrorist organization which had launched numerous suicide attacks against Israel throughout the years. The legality of the Israeli invasion (immoral in my opinion) is not at issue, the issue is that Azmi Bishara violated a law that was on the books since 1948.


What do you say:

So what did the fuckers do? They changed the rules yet again.

You act like the Israelis are just making it up as they go. The law was enacted in 1948, in part to deal with JEWISH terrorists, left over from the anti-British and anti-Arab activities of the mandate period.

You simply dismiss things quoted from, let's take for example, the Jerusalem Post. Why is that, do you just think all Jews are liars who cannot publish proper journalism? I think that is more the case than anything else.

Azmi Bishara went and told the Syrian government and people (an enemy to the state in which he is a citizen and a member of the government, sworn to protect its people) that Israel was planning attacks. What kind of treason is this? What state wouldn't punish this kind of behavior?


Your position is so manifestly absurd as to require no further comment. You see my posts as abusive, and at times they are, but always within the framework of some point of fact. You have simply devolved into absolutely insane nonsense:

LOL (You know, your username "al-rawandi" sounds Arabic, and looks similar to "al-Qaeda". You're not like those "Arab shitholes", are you?)
In case you haven't figured it out, I am purposely rude and arrogant towards you. Why not? You're a selfish bastard. You don't give a damn about the things you write. And why should you? It's all a game, no? You get your kicks by pretending that you know your stuff. You know dick! And when you get caught talking out of both sides of your mouth, well ... that's when your bullshit goes into overdrive. "You what?" "You're entitled to change your mind?" Give us a break, A-hole! You have no principles to start with. And talking about A-holes, this Greek owns your ass. (You feel those hemorrhoids flaring up? Cream?) Don't worry, I want no part of it. You're so covered in shit that I wouldn't touch your ass, not even with the proverbial 10-foot pole! Lucky bastard. LOL

I haven't heard anything this stupid since I was a freshman in high school. This is evidence that you are truly pathetic. Look at your obsession with me, look at how you have made a fool of yourself. This is just sad, I am not even mad at you over this, I am truly sad to see someone behave like this, even under an assumed name.


"al-Rawandi sounds Arabic".


Excellent work detective.


And the final window into your personality, you, being the whimpering coward you are, edited this away, without note. You made the comment and took it out, and righton had to save it for "posterity". How sad.

Let me tell you something, I have the fucking courage to criticize someone when they are wrong. I criticize Israel, even recently when they shamefully banned Norman Finkelstein, and I criticize the Palestinians when they hurl anti-semitic rhetoric and suicide bombers at Israel. You, what do you do? You cannot discern between right and wrong. Israel is always wrong, you simply cannot discern what is a just act and what is an unjust act. That, along with your ravings, is evidence of an extremely weak intellect.


Sad sad sad.

515. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188265 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 2:36 pm

righton,




No I am just ignoring him at this point.

516. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188244 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 12:11 pm

Quetz,






I was just kidding, I don't need the praise, but I have to say, there is some ripe material for zingers on the page today.

Any thread that touches homosexuality, tea bags, and beastiality is bound to be rich fodder!

517. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188237 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 11:58 am

Q,




I drop "kitty fiddler" (Like a priest is a kiddie fiddler) and you are worried about your teabags? Humor is lost on the great god quetzacoatl.

518. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188231 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 11:52 am

Elli,





I would also add, to the SPCA, keep Appleby away from any animal, as he is a kitty fiddler.

519. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188176 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 9:54 am

Damn it.

520. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188170 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 9:46 am

Doctor Dee,








The men are at least, because they don't deal with women....



*ducks*

521. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188163 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 9:39 am

Elephant,






I walked into a gay bar in the Mission district of San Francisco once. A girl I was seeing loved the place, and didn't tell me it was a gay bar... I came in and there was a guy wearing a sailor's outfit dancing on the bar. I was offended about not getting hit on more, until one of the guys told me I "so wasn't gay. It's obvious".

Once I went back in the leather chaps though....

522. Character Attacks: How to Properly Apply the Ad Hominem

Comment #188157 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 9:31 am

j.mills,







I read the article. I have criticized him before for his Alan Dershowitz man crush. But thanks for keeping everyone on topic for these threads, what would we do without it?

523. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188148 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 9:18 am

Now gays are smarter than homosexuals?



Wowowow.

524. Character Attacks: How to Properly Apply the Ad Hominem

Comment #188147 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 9:17 am

scooternyc,






You mean Dershowitz the plagarist, or are you referring to a different Dershowitz?

525. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188133 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 8:54 am

Appleby,







You are a slippery little bastard. Epeeist got you on that one.

Gays go to non Gay bars all the time. Why wouldn't they be happy in a normal "community" as opposed to one that is segregated? Are you suggesting that gays cannot stand heterosexuals? Or is it you that cannot stand gays.


*EDIT* more importantly gays can choose to go to a gay bar for a few hours, but wouldn't want to spend all their time there. Why would they be happy being permanently segregated?

526. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188094 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 8:09 am

All of you are wasting your time. You are asking an irrational person to explain his irrational belief, on a rational basis. What a waste of time.


He simply wants to deny homosexuals rights and dignity, he will toss about any argument which he feels may make it harder to get to the bottom of the issue. It is deflection after deflection. He simply refuses to answer your questions.

Stop wasting your time with this pathetic loser.

527. Mark Steyn vs. the 'Sock Puppets'

Comment #188074 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 7:42 am

Troll.



Marked accordingly.

528. Mark Steyn vs. the 'Sock Puppets'

Comment #188052 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 7:20 am

brainsys,








I am talking about on this thread. Why don't you put a ball in play, or play with the one we have already put in play? Don't come here and bull shit for 6 posts then tell us you are bored and accuse us of ad hominems.


I will be more clear, post something or respond to something posted. It is really pretty simple, even you should be able to figure it out.

529. Mark Steyn vs. the 'Sock Puppets'

Comment #188048 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 7:18 am

Fanusi,







I think he has gone to more "fruitful" threads. He didn't seem to have a grasp on the "course material" anyhow.

530. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188044 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 7:12 am

elephant,







Were you here when Appleby was coming on to me yesterday? I am not so sure he doesn't have about a bakers dozen male cats running around his studio apartment.



I don't get it, why is it when you talk homosexuality someone immediately brings up bestiality.

Person 1: "I think gays should be able to adopt"
Appleby-like-person: "What, so is it ok to ass fuck a goat?"


It is a compulsion with these idiots.

531. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188029 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 6:59 am

Quetz,








Unlike that cat, he better take me to dinner first. If he thinks he can open a can of Whiskis and get me naked, he has another think coming.

532. Mark Steyn vs. the 'Sock Puppets'

Comment #188026 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 6:58 am

brainsys,






Cheap shots? What else do I have, you have not posted anything of value or substance. If you want to have a "fruitful" debate bring something to the table other than labrynthine posts that don't really say anything.

And for the record, Fanusi and I have the most fruitful debates on the site, IMHO.

533. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188023 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 6:56 am

Appleby,







How did the vaginal sex go for you? Did your girlfriend like your vagina?

534. Mark Steyn vs. the 'Sock Puppets'

Comment #188019 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 6:52 am

Fanusi,



Well I was reading an article on it yesterday, I didn't finish.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/06/02/080602fa_fact_wright?currentPage=all


I agree, I think he was saying, like al-Suri, that direct confrontation with the west isn't workable, because the Muslim forces will be crushed, and I think Fadl is saying that there must be political action to correct things in the Muslim world, while al-Suri is saying that the jihad must continue but just less well organized.

535. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188016 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 6:48 am

Q, Irate,






You should have been here yesterday when Appleby was making homosexual advances towards me. He kept trying to convince me I was gay and all this other stuff. I was flattered, but I didn't know what to tell him.

536. Mark Steyn vs. the 'Sock Puppets'

Comment #188010 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 6:39 am

Brainsys,






What the hell are you saying?


You are just popping off. There are criticisms you can make of Fanusi, the question is are you smart enough to make them.

537. Mark Steyn vs. the 'Sock Puppets'

Comment #188002 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 6:26 am

One more thing,








The face of jihad is changing precisely because of the ideology espoused by al-Suri.


He has used the term Nizam la Tanzim... meaning a "loose system not an organization". He is advocating decentralized Jihad. Because rigid organization has found itself penetrated by western intelligence services, and loosely formed, unconnected cells of "jihad" will be more effective.

The only problem pointed out with this strategy is the need to recruit, and that the need to act (for these groups) will exceed the opportunity to act wisely. So if we leave Iraq, we will be doing our part to suck the oxygen out of this Nizam la Tanzim. Thus their recruiting will be damaged.

538. Mark Steyn vs. the 'Sock Puppets'

Comment #188000 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 6:21 am

I was reading The American Interest Last night. There were several good articles. One of which was on Afghanistan and how the Pakistani military is basically selling us out, trying to allow the Taliban to operate to keep Afghanistan a country defined by religion and not Pashtun nationalism, which might spread to Pakistani Pashtuns. They also do this for strategic depth against the Indians.

Another interesting point made was that Iran could make our lives much worse there, and that in fact at the beginning Iran was helping us by supporting the Northern Alliance, but now are supplying various jihadist groups just to screw us. So I had an idea.

Why doesn't the US leave Iraq, then Iran can waste its money funding Shi'a groups in the coming blood bath versus Sunni (Saudi supported groups) groups. If we left Iraq there would be a flow of Sunni radicals into Iraq to fight the heretical Shi'a (most of these being of Wahhabi influence), and at the same time Iran would have a big job on their hands. That would give us the flexibility to provide the support to the Afghan government that they need, and the opportunity to negotiate a status of forces agreement.

Another article was discussing a book called "Architect of Global Jihad" on Abu Musab al-Suri who is this pseudo-rationalist Jihadi writer. A die hard pragmatist who has little religious training, but who remains very influential in the Jihadi movement. Expelled from Syria he married a Spanish woman and began writing, including a 1,600 page tract on Jihad.

I think the face of Islamic radicalism is changing somewhat. You have the hard core central al-Qaeda, but you also have the peripheral "Social al-Qaeda". Many of these peripheral persons are coming to Pakistan for training, and the scary part is many are English, and al-Qaeda is not using them in the war in Afhanistan, but is turning them around and sending them back to their European countries of origin, and this may well be the source of training for the 7-7 bombers.

Also Dr. Fadl (former al-Qaeda ideologue) wrote a tract rejecting violence from his Egyptian jail cell and has created a rift between himself and al-Zawahiri, as the two became friends in an Egyptian jail.

Interesting developments. My two cents since things were slowing down.

539. Mark Steyn vs. the 'Sock Puppets'

Comment #187994 by al-rawandi on June 3, 2008 at 5:57 am

Fanusi,





As for Hobbes, the portion you quote, I like Robespierre... "Virtue without terror is nothing, and terror without virtue is nothing."

A great book by Slavoj Zizek is "Virtue and Terror". It's a collection of works by Robespierre on terror, and revolution.

I am not quite sure what your detractors are trying to say here. Are they actually making a point? Sometimes I have trouble deciphering liberal nonsense.

540. Town moves against Islamic school

Comment #187760 by al-rawandi on June 2, 2008 at 2:43 pm

Fanusi,




I need to leave, but I will construct a quick response.


It was a land grab. No doubt in my mind. The question is why? Moshe Dayan himself said "this is not a war of necessity, it is a war of choice." Many would say, and I would concur that Israel grabbed the land for safety and security, which to some is acceptable and others not. I am really ambivalent at this point in my life. I used to fault Israel for this, but one has to remember that the Jewish/Israeli mentality is strongly shaped by near annhilation, so I can forgive more of their actions when I keep that in mind.


I understand your point about being less willing to criticize tactics in Israel. That is fair enough for me. But I think Israel has a decisive advantage at this point and isn't facing organzied and powerful resistance, it is facing weak and disparate resistance. And Israel is mainly using its power to maintain settlements it should abandon anyway.

I am still convinced that shooting journalists is wrong, and there is no excuse for it.


As for the Wikipedia article, like I said, it left out the part about the Egyptian vice president, the straits of Tiran being a non-Issue and Abba Eban's lies. Those are all tangential to my point that Israel was going to launch the war one way or another. The question is, did they have a right to conquer the territory for protection.

And if they did, then they are bound to treat the people there well and ensure their civil services and the like, under international law. The occupier assumes final responsibility for all civil matters. So Israel has obligations, and as a decent people the Jews should follow through there (decent because most are secular and not crazed bigots like the settlers).

541. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187756 by al-rawandi on June 2, 2008 at 2:35 pm

Elli,



Lol, Sammy Davis Jr. Good one.

Are you left handed too? All you need are some fucked up scissors and life would be perfect.

I was about to say "Lawyer? Well I hate you too!" But then you said you kicked the habit. Do they have patches, or did you use the gum?

542. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187748 by al-rawandi on June 2, 2008 at 2:05 pm

Elli,





Are you gay too? Ass clown must really hate you.

543. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187740 by al-rawandi on June 2, 2008 at 1:52 pm

Mitchell,






My opinion towards people who are condescending to women is quite well known here. People who refuse to deal with their arguments and comment on photos or whatever are simply terrified of women, specifically intellectual ones, as Elli obviously is. It takes a true coward to behave in such a fashion towards a woman. Appleby certainly has to be uncomfortable with his own sexuality (or ability):


1) He cannot tolerate gays.
2) He cannot behave civily with women.
3) He has to sign off saying he is going to have sex with a woman.

All this indicates a serious psychological problem. Perhaps closet homosexuality, perhaps tiny genitalia.... who knows.

544. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187736 by al-rawandi on June 2, 2008 at 1:43 pm

ooooh




Now he is busy and has to go, once evidence is demanded for the 50th time, he gets busy and has to go annoy his "girlfriend".

Classic dogmatist, get's busy when the heat gets turned up.

545. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187734 by al-rawandi on June 2, 2008 at 1:40 pm

Appleby,







Let's be clear, you cannot provide one shred of evidence to support your conclusions. Which means you arrived at these conclusions without evidence. Furthermore this means you are irrational.

You are also against extending certain rights to homosexual couples, this is based on irrational assumptions, and lack any evidence. This means you are discriminating against these people simply because of their sexual orientation.


This makes you a bigot. If I am wrong, please show me where I am wrong, point to the place and tell me why.

546. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187692 by al-rawandi on June 2, 2008 at 1:07 pm

Appleby,

Between homosexual and heterosexual parenting? Are you serious? Perhaps I should also assume being raised by orangutans is equal until proven otherwise.

A curious hyperbole. Are you suggesting that being raised by a same sex couple is at all analogous to being raised by a troop of primates?




Bonzai,



And how did people justify objections to interracial marriage, and parenting?


"It doesn't feel right."
"It doesn't look right."
"It doesn't seem right."


And now for gay parenting we get Appleby's "feelings" on the matter. I just don't get the problem people have with gays. I simply don't understand it. So they like the same sex, I don't really care. Get over it already.

547. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187674 by al-rawandi on June 2, 2008 at 12:50 pm

Appleby,




Mitchell Gilks said:

I specifically said already that I was not saying that there is no difference, what I said is that there is no reason to assume different is bad. That is irrational.

Then you say three posts later:

Some idiot comes to me and says there's no difference between homosexual parenting and heterosexual parenting.

I ask him to prove it. He tries. I say it's not enough. He tries again. I still say it's not enough. Why? The idiot is trying to prove a negative.

Then he tells me *I* have to prove there is a difference. Go figure.

You are truly a fucking idiot.

548. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187653 by al-rawandi on June 2, 2008 at 12:25 pm

Appleby,







Feel free to ignore my posts. But don't be so self congratulatory as to confuse what you are doing with intellectual discourse.

You simply ignore all evidence. I will leave it to the rest of the crowd here to continue making you look like a totally bigoted moron.

Your feelings aren't evidence of anything other than your own irrational beliefs.

549. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187646 by al-rawandi on June 2, 2008 at 12:19 pm

Appleby,




I am a very fair guy, as most people here will tell you. I usually give ideas, even the most bullshit ones, a chance. I was giving you such a chance, despite all my better judgement, then you go and say the following:

Simply on account of the children's likelihood of future unemployment and delinquency? That proves nothing and certainly doesn't point to gay adoptions as a solution.

No. You simply cannot read, that is your first problem. That or you refuse to read the evidence put before you. The fact is that those in "foster" care more often than not end up incarcerated. Incarcerated is fancy atheist talk for "in prison". Now that I have fulfilled my didactic duty for the day, I can move on to more general points about this crap you are attempting sell us here.

First, I have to ask, you don't think that the risk of being an unemployed criminal is greater than the risks associated with being teased over having homosexual parents? Choosing between a life of crime (yes a life, if you look at simple rates of recidivism for inmates) and some nasty teasing as a youth is so easy as to make me wonder if you are in fact a wilfull idiot and not one of those so handicapped by genetics as to be unable to comprehend simple points.

Second, your consistent willingness to ignore evidence and plain fact suggests that you are either the biggest idiot in the world (unlikely since I have already met wooter), or that you are such a seething bigot as to be unwilling to let your dogmatic hatred be shaken by obvious fact.


You are clearly a bigot. A bigot is someone who persists in his irrational hatred despite all evidence to contrary. A bigot usually adduces his feelings of "wrongness" to indict his victims, whom he always treats as a monolith. So the only question that remains is whether or not you are a complete bigot, or some of your nonsense can be accounted for with bungling stupidity.

I am going to side with the more modest, as I rarely attribute to malice what I can account for with stupidity.

550. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #187628 by al-rawandi on June 2, 2008 at 11:55 am

Peace,








These care homes, find over 50% of their products are imprisoned at some point and between 30-40% are unemployed. These homes are exceedingly poor at developing well adjusted children. The studies absolutely and undeniably bear you out. It isn't even close.

As for gay homes, I don't have the stats, but I would guess they are MUCH better than "care homes".