Comments by Vaal

501. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #191490 by Vaal on June 11, 2008 at 4:03 am

199. Comment #191476 by Paula Kirby

The women wear frumpy clothes and clearly don't approve of hairdressers; the men wear dark suits and frowns

So, Paula, how did you avoid being lynched as it must have been obvious as you were the only woman in the audience that had some clothes sense and seen a hairdresser in the last decade. They must have seen immediately that you had been sent by Satan, sorry RD!

I have to say I admire your fortitude. I think I would have had to have a case of whisky after having to endure that.

Edit: reminds me of my old church in Belfast. The congregation seemed to consist of people who had never smiled in their lives, and who seemed to enjoy being miserable. Surprising, considering they thought they were the only ones being saved. Imagine meeting that lot in Heaven? You would have to give God some prozac.

502. Bacteria make major evolutionary shift in the lab

Comment #191453 by Vaal on June 11, 2008 at 2:13 am

Very interesting experiment. Evolution in action, fascinating. Experiments like this are the reason I love science. Those gaps are really getting smaller, except of course for the wilfully ignorant and deluded.

Listening to some of the comments of the most obstinate theists who sometimes populate this site, it is self evident that they will find no evidence that could ever persuade them. Unless of course God visited them to say that he doesn't exist!

503. Court Claim: Chimps Are People, Too

Comment #191184 by Vaal on June 10, 2008 at 10:39 am

I wonder what the legal status of a Homo Neanderthalus or Homo Erectus would be, should we miraculously manage to recreate them? Would they be considered human too? I suspect it would be more likely they would be considered abominations by the religites and hunted or put into zoos.

Of course, in the end, even we only have the rights that are accorded to us by our leaders, and those rights vary throughout the world, particularly where people are living under the tyranny of theocracy.

Didn't I see an article not so long ago where a parrot had a greater vocabulary than an average Chav. Would that mean it should also be accorded rights, according to its intelligence. How about crows?

Still, any legislation that protects these wonderful animals from the extinction that their human cousins are driving them towards has to be good news.

504. Louisiana's latest creationism bill moves to House floor

Comment #191180 by Vaal on June 10, 2008 at 10:26 am

Wow Steve

Is this the new you? One body blow followed by a right hook and the poor old theists are out for the count. Will they come back for round two?

Edit: Sorry, forgotten about bruiser Robertson, got a head like concrete, but can't throw a single punch.

505. A word for nonbelievers

Comment #190999 by Vaal on June 10, 2008 at 4:31 am

Comment by David Robertson:

I am always due to debate with atheists - it is something I do regularly - although I have to say that often it is like shooting ducks at the fairground.

Bet you miss them by a mile as well.

EDIT: Interesting use of the word debate. Spouting hogwash, not listening to anybody else, putting your fingers in your ears and going LALALALALA, the usual "atheist" creed non argument etc etc. Debating you David is like debating a bit of Lego. You just don't have an argument other than vacuous piffle and just talk in endless circles saying nothing. I'm surprised you don't give yourself a headache.

506. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #190690 by Vaal on June 9, 2008 at 11:52 am

And in the next room we shall have an astrologer, maybe Russell Grant, debating with Steven Hawking's about the origin of the Universe, or the flat Earth society having a debate with an astronaut.

Now if the hall was full of flat Earther's and the case for the flat Earth was popular, would that mean the flat Earthers would win the debate? Of course, it wouldn't make it true so it is utterly pointless.

Of course, RD would love to debate with the rational and "open minded" David Robertson. Wooooooshh ... there goes a flying pig.

507. Logical Proof of the Existence of a Divine Creator, Why Atheism is Not Logically Sound

Comment #190687 by Vaal on June 9, 2008 at 11:33 am

Oh Dear..

The youngest school child can tell you that a building does not build itself and that, by extension, neither does a universe

Ah, the youngest school child knows how the Universe was built then? Why bother going to school or trying to learn anything; after all "Goddidit" is the answer to anything. If it was down to that mind set we would all still be living in caves. Perhaps the youngest school child could tell me all about quantum mechanics then, as it is beyond me, even after trying hard to understand it. Moron!

Would human beings survive if one organ or cavity was missing or displaced, even after somehow being otherwise perfectly formed with no designer?

I was thinking this weekend that I could have used my prehensile tail to help me prune the trees in the garden. Damn that Abrahamic God for leaving me only a remnant. He must have just been teasing. Don't know, your God seems to have disposed of your brain and you somehow manage to survive.

What unmitigated drivel. That is your argument for God? It wouldn't persuade my cat.

508. John McCain: America a Christian nation, needs Christian president

Comment #190242 by Vaal on June 8, 2008 at 3:36 pm

Wow, excellent contribution from Obama. The voice of rationality, rarely seen in politics. I suspect that this man will make a great President.

However, is McCain serious or is he just playing to the powerful religious lobby? Will the witch doctors be baying "vote McCain" from their pulpits? Are the religites really that dumb they just jump to the tune of whatever their shamans tell them? What a tragedy for America if that is true.

509. Prayer to feed the hungry

Comment #190031 by Vaal on June 8, 2008 at 8:56 am

Ah, so better stop my payments to charity, and just send five loaves and fishes, and pray a lot. That will stop world poverty for sure. Nothing like a bit of blind faith to address a world crisis. I'm sure those dying of starvation will appreciate my faith.

Why bother praying, might as well just have a dump for all the good it does.

510. A word for nonbelievers

Comment #189726 by Vaal on June 7, 2008 at 4:21 am

33. Comment #189725 by Obecalp

Would love to read a reply from 'clearthinker'

Really? I think I would rather hang by my testicles in the garden than have to listen to another essay of befuddled mental gymnastics by Mr Robertson.

511. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #188510 by Vaal on June 4, 2008 at 7:02 am

My goodness, I have only just seen this. It is absolutely disgusting. "Death was God's punishment". I am profoundly upset at this poor brave women's foul murder and the odious mind set that approves it in the name of their vile non existent God.

Even Shakespeare could not have thought up anything as sad and tragic. I sometimes despair of the human race. Religion really is the curse of humanity.

PZ remarks on it on his blog as well..

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/06/a_barbaric_tragedy.php

I sincerely hope that the murderers and the wretched husband and sons are bought to justice. Hanging is too good for them.

512. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188389 by Vaal on June 4, 2008 at 3:25 am

884. Comment #188388 by Appleby

You actually have no good reason to believe in a god of any kind, if you don't mind my saying so

HAHAHAHAHA. You have obviously never read any of my posts. Yes, you could say I don't believe in any gods of any kind.

Anyway, I will let the others have their fun with you... ciao

513. Storm erupts over 'virginity' divorce

Comment #188386 by Vaal on June 4, 2008 at 3:16 am

You guys are having too much fun with Appleby :-)

I usually bed virgins for crying out loud!

Maybe he should be a Muslim. He will be ploughing virgins for eternity. Probably get a bit tedious after the first year or so though.

514. When two worlds collide: threat of class warfare over faith-based schooling

Comment #187559 by Vaal on June 2, 2008 at 10:07 am

Students who know themselves and are confident in their own faith are far more likely to be open and generous towards others of faith

So, as long as you have a faith you will be open and generous towards other faiths, yet there is no mention at all of those with no faith, which in Australia is the majority of the population. What a fucktard. Sorry Irate.

515. Scientists rally against creationist 'superstition'

Comment #187435 by Vaal on June 2, 2008 at 6:18 am

92. Comment #187384 by Philip1978

One thing that grabs me about this article is the "hurt and insults" that seem to arise whenever this subject is raised

Common theme now Philip. I have noticed it more recently on these boards and in debates. I suspect that the Christian apologists have seen the success of the Islamic model of repressing freedom of speech with threats of "insulting their religion".

When you haven't got an argument, then what have you got other than obscurantism, lies, disinformation, and playing the persecution card as shown by the disgracefully unethical behaviour of the "Expelled" bigots.

However, what it really means is that they are on the run, which is encouraging. They may achieve some short term successes but tomfoolery of this scale will in the long term mortally wound their campaign. In short, they are doing more to discredit their cause then any of us, which can only be good news.

516. Scientists rally against creationist 'superstition'

Comment #186978 by Vaal on June 1, 2008 at 2:27 am

24. Comment #186973 by clearthinker

I write as someone who went with an open mind

Ah man, that has made my Sunday morning. I haven't laughed so hard for ages. Thanks Opaquethinker.

517. That's it. Texas really is doomed.

Comment #186330 by Vaal on May 30, 2008 at 6:52 am

Irate ... please please please don't mention peak oil. I don't want to have to read one of those eternal missives once again!

On a completely different point. How about this fantastic image of the Pheonix Mars' probe parachuting to the surface of Mars. Wow! Beats images of Jesus on toast any day of the week...

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap080530.html

518. Flea of the week

Comment #186266 by Vaal on May 30, 2008 at 3:11 am

93. Comment #186257 by Quetzalcoatl

Before anyone says it- Elvis is very much dead.

What, Elvis is dead? No, he has risen. The new religion of Elvisology is on the rise...

http://www.elvislives.net/

519. Flea of the week

Comment #186254 by Vaal on May 30, 2008 at 2:46 am

90. Comment #186252 by irate_atheist

Including or excluding Clapton?

Don't forget Elvis.

520. Flea of the week

Comment #186235 by Vaal on May 30, 2008 at 2:11 am

Yep, I saw that Irate.

What faith can do is not tell you what is right but give you the strength to do it.

That is a VERY worrying statement by Blair. I am astonished that a man who was the leader of this country can come out with such flim flam reasoning. He seems to have completely lost the plot. I am actually quite surprised. It is the sort of thing I would have expected to hear from some demented mullah or our friend Mr George Bush.

The great strength of this country is that few politicians would dare to invoke God or they would be ridiculed. However, worryingly, a journalist recently asked a politician if he "believed in God". The politician, I believe it was David Cameron should have replied "which one?".

521. Car dealership advert tells atheists to 'shut up'

Comment #185924 by Vaal on May 29, 2008 at 5:47 am

None of us at Kieffe & Sons Ford is afraid to speak out. Kieffe & Sons Ford on Sierra Highway in Mojave and Rosamond, if we don't see you today, by the grace of God, we'll be here tomorrow

Go on God, send them down a nice lightening bolt or a flood, just for a laugh!

522. Top 6 Incestuous Relationships In The Bible

Comment #185917 by Vaal on May 29, 2008 at 4:50 am

So, were Adam and Eve white? I presume of course that they were English Presbyterian's. Believe it or not, I actually spoke to an American once who was convinced that Jesus's natural tongue was English. Even if my American half wit was right, I am not sure he could have understood the English of 2000 years ago. I can hardly understand Chaucer!

So, where did Eskimo's, Chinese, Maoris', Australian Aborigines come from? 6000 years to produce such a variety of human beings from 2 people? What about our poor cousin the Neanderthal? Was he descended from some forgotten Judean tribe? If it wasn't so ridiculous it would be laughable.

Actually, as Irate says, everybody was descended from Noah, as the loving and despotic Abrahamic desert God decided to murder all the other humans he "loved" in a mass genocide that made the holocaust look like a tea party. What a nice chap. Definitely deserving of a good worship.

523. These dim-wits believe in anything but God

Comment #181698 by Vaal on May 18, 2008 at 1:41 am

I see David Roberston is posting on the telegraph comments page with his usual inanities, ridiculous ad-hominems attacking atheists and his view of the universe through his blinkered eyes of personal incredulity.

The most powerful argument for the existence of God is the vehemence and vitriol in the denials of those who oppose Him. David Robertson

THAT is his most powerful argument for the existence of God, the fact that religion has had a free ride for too long and that people have the gall to actually criticize it. What a pathetic and intellectually barren argument. Is THAT the best that you have got? Shame on you.

524. Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens

Comment #179739 by Vaal on May 13, 2008 at 3:37 pm

New film by Ben Stein.. Aliens Expelled!!

Darwinism is to be blamed for the invasion of the Earth by the Godless Zeeerookks, who claim that God was made in THEIR image!! That desert God gets about...

525. Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens

Comment #179720 by Vaal on May 13, 2008 at 3:05 pm

Ah, moving the goal posts again. But then, as Darth Ratzinger is from Palpatine, it is hardly surprising that they believe in Aliens :-)

526. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #179717 by Vaal on May 13, 2008 at 2:57 pm

Nice to see one Islamic country getting tough on "honour killings". Perhaps their Iraqi cousins should take note. Lets hope that Mr Abdel-Qader Ali takes a short holiday to Jordan, and get his just deserts.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7399084.stm

527. 'My daughter deserved to die for falling in love'

Comment #178364 by Vaal on May 11, 2008 at 9:53 am

I hope the SAS pay this disgusting excuse of a human a little visit.

528. Church of Scotland mediators to quell disputes

Comment #178246 by Vaal on May 11, 2008 at 2:23 am

What? Isn't David Robertson in the Scottish Judean people's front, or is it the Scottish peoples front of Judea?

Splitter!

Sorry, couldn't resist it...

529. How to reconcile Richard Dawkins?

Comment #173646 by Vaal on May 1, 2008 at 3:18 am

Steve

Sorry to see you go. Your posts are some of the best to read on here, and you have a great way of cutting through all the crap and administering the coup de grace to most of the ignorance we encounter on this site.

As a layman, I have been most interested and learned a lot from the more qualified people on this site, particularly yourself. I was very sad to see Veronique leave, as her posts were marvellous, and it will be the same for you.

However, it has been getting a bit tedious to hear the same banal inanities being hashed by the religiously credulous and it is depressed to realise how ignorant so many of the Religites are about basic science, and how gullible they are, so I am much in the same mind as yourself, and will take a break from the site for a bit.

530. Anti-Evolution Film Misappropriates the Holocaust

Comment #172770 by Vaal on April 30, 2008 at 4:34 am

As Darwin was English, does that mean the English by association are Darwinists. Strange that it was the English "Darwinists" who were among the first to arrive at the death camps to liberate Ben Steins relatives from the horrors of totalitarian genocidal fascism. What poppycock! He should hang his head in shame.

I wonder what Darwin himself would think if he was alive today, to hear such drivel being propagated in his name. He may have been a product of his era, but his views, particularly on race, were well beyond the Zeitgeist of his time. I suspect he would be utterly horrified.

531. Girl, 17, killed in Iraq for loving a British soldier

Comment #172719 by Vaal on April 30, 2008 at 1:45 am

Lighten up fellas.

Al, I agree with most of your posts, but I feel that Bunny has been bullied off this board. It is a shame to lose her and I hope she returns.

532. Orangutan attempts to hunt fish with spear

Comment #172001 by Vaal on April 29, 2008 at 5:28 am

Ben Stein in a monkey suit, pursuing his new career after "Expelled"?

533. Science leads to killing people

Comment #172000 by Vaal on April 29, 2008 at 5:27 am

Irate

LOL :-))

534. Science leads to killing people

Comment #171972 by Vaal on April 29, 2008 at 3:53 am

Is it just me, or does Ben Stein look like Dr. Strangelove? Hmmmm....

535. Girl, 17, killed in Iraq for loving a British soldier

Comment #171965 by Vaal on April 29, 2008 at 3:37 am

Any culture that supports this inhumanity and cruelty is an abomination and should be addressed. Cultural relativism does not cut it. If a culture is capable of such an appalling and odious crime, then it should be cut out of that culture like a cancer and recognised for the evil that it is.

What concerns me is that her brothers turned on their 17 year old sister as well as the bigoted father, instead of protecting her. To have such a mind set beggars belief. Anybody who ever tried to hurt my sisters would only do it over my dead body.

Where does this come from? Unfortunately it has its roots in religion. These people are taught to hate "kaffirs" from birth from their religious leaders. There have been several appalling "honour" killings in Britain recently, where people have sought help from the authorities, but have found little solace as the police are terrified of being accused of upsetting communities, ultimately leading to tragedy.

The law should come down very hard on this, so that people of all communities and religions recognise that it is totally unacceptable. I would also like to see the law come down on the religious bigots that espouse this hatred in their places of worship, as they are the ones laying down the roots of this vile, inhuman culture. These children are not born with this hatred, but taught it.

536. Tyrannosaurus rex protein proves dinosaurs evolved into birds

Comment #170929 by Vaal on April 28, 2008 at 6:35 am

So, Chicken Licken was right. The sky did fall on him, 65 million years ago...

537. Tyrannosaurus rex protein proves dinosaurs evolved into birds

Comment #168658 by Vaal on April 25, 2008 at 9:11 am

Another nail in the coffin of the ReligIdiots.

538. Humans nearly wiped out 70,000 years ago, study says

Comment #168520 by Vaal on April 25, 2008 at 7:21 am

Humans are evolving into two separate species now, Homo Sapiens Religites (otherwise known as Morlocks) and Homo Sapiens Rationalists.

In several thousand years the Morlocks will be living in the deserts with their camels or underground living in fear of their small despotic desert God. The rest of us will be colonising the galaxy, with the occasional foray back to Earth as an anthropological exercise to see how our our superstitious cousins are getting on.

Every now and then we shall light a burning bush and chat to them about some new laws for them to follow, or what food not to eat, so as to preserve the other species they haven't driven to extinction. Thou shalt not eat Whale on pain of stoning. The Tiger is sacred. Follow the shoe. No wait, follow the gourd...

539. Lynchings in Congo as penis theft panic hits capital

Comment #168346 by Vaal on April 25, 2008 at 4:26 am

So that's what happened to my sister. Oh, ..wait.

540. Lynchings in Congo as penis theft panic hits capital

Comment #167360 by Vaal on April 24, 2008 at 12:41 am

So THAT is what happens when I dive into ice cold water?

541. Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

Comment #166193 by Vaal on April 23, 2008 at 1:39 am

One decisive knock-out hook from Bennett, and a feeble empty parry from Winston. Like Muhammed Ali versus Adrian Mole. I am sure Epeeist can better describe it in fencing parlance.

542. Evolution exhibit shows why nobody's perfect

Comment #165642 by Vaal on April 22, 2008 at 1:05 am

Yep, that would be great to see in the UK. Richard, any chance of having a word in somebody's ear here at the Natural history museum to get somebody to promote it.

I would LOVE to see the Lucy skeleton and wouldn't it be great to be able to get hold of the Homo Erectus skeleton of the Turkana boy, although I can't see Kenya releasing it for tour. Maybe a replica?

Of course, we could get a replica of a Homo Robertson skeleton otherwise known as Homo inanity, Homo diarrhoea or Homo Ostrich. Anybody else got any suitable names? Don't know if you could get its head through the door though?

543. If God Is Dead, Who Gets His House?

Comment #165628 by Vaal on April 22, 2008 at 12:44 am

Can I have the Vatican please.

544. Pope's Views on Science Invoke Spirited Debate

Comment #165337 by Vaal on April 21, 2008 at 11:07 am

Its verdict against Galileo was rational and just, and revisionism can be legitimized solely for motives of political opportunism

Well done Ratzinger, you are affirming one of the Church's biggest own goals by threatening Galileo with death and "letting him off" by imprisoning him for the rest of his life, and for what? For describing the world around him as it ACTUALLY is? What a complete dick head.

At least the previous Pope had the dignity to admit that the Church had made a mistake with its persecution of Galileo and issued an apology, albeit 400 years late. He at least was a likable old codger, instead of this current reptilian primate. I have always thought that the irony of them calling themselves primates is completely lost on them :-)

There should be a special word for intelligent people who are willfully ignorant, instead of their cerebrally challenged acolytes, and then I realized that Irate already had the perfect word. So Irate, do the honours...

I hope Darth has taken a sailing ship over to the States and is cycling everywhere. Surely by flying isn't he committing the sin that he made up the other day regarding environmental pollution? Or is he exempt?

545. Mecca should become core to measure time zones: scholars

Comment #165268 by Vaal on April 21, 2008 at 9:22 am

If God had a sense of humour, he would aim an asteroid at Mecca.

He would then sit back to see the debates of "it was God's will" and "It was because we have sinned", and have a chuckle...

546. Pope's Views on Science Invoke Spirited Debate

Comment #165264 by Vaal on April 21, 2008 at 9:19 am

Beware the dark side of the Force, oh Darth Ratzinger. How dare he criticize Obi Wan Galileo!

547. Ben Stein Vs. Sputtering Atheists

Comment #165212 by Vaal on April 21, 2008 at 8:19 am

I came out of it stunned

I am stunned too, that 21st Century sentient and supposedly educated human beings with a vast reservoir of accumulated knowledge, that our ancestors could hardly even have dreamed of, are so utterly credulous as to swallow this blatant and mind choking propaganda. Seems stupidity is ageless.

548. Mecca should become core to measure time zones: scholars

Comment #165198 by Vaal on April 21, 2008 at 7:48 am

So, dark ages one side of the Meridian and enlightened world on the other side. So, what happens to a time apostate, would he be put to death?

Wonder how they will worship Mecca in a few million years when it is under the sea. It would be like a fish bowl with all those pilgrims scuba diving around it. Be quite hard to stone that wall under water, and would that mean the devil is aquatic?

549. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #164769 by Vaal on April 20, 2008 at 5:06 pm

Tragic that Richard has to write this letter at all. Not only is "Expelled" utter tripe and a nasty dose of Religious right wing propaganda, it seems to have the unfortunate side effect of regarding atheists and evolutionary scientists as people to blame and hate for the disgusting holocaust, a blemish on all humanity.

In fairness though, J seems to have been easily duped by such obvious propaganda. I would have thought somebody whose family had been murdered in the holocaust would not have been so impressionable.

However, I am sure we shall hear the same theme quite often from the gullible, regardless of what Richard or anyone else says, unfortunately.

550. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #164326 by Vaal on April 20, 2008 at 4:32 am

You are being too kind Steve, to be intelligent and foist that model on yourself, takes a special kind of stupidity.