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Comments by decius


551. Those fanatical atheists

Comment #257976 by decius on October 1, 2008 at 9:58 am

Comment #257966 by Mitchell Gilks

It's true that he published many more pivotal papers than people remember him for. I addressed some specific and demonstrably false claims, though.

Also, I seriously doubt that a century on we still wouldn't understand gravitation, all considered.

552. Those fanatical atheists

Comment #257960 by decius on October 1, 2008 at 9:38 am

Comment #257959 by Mitchell Gilks

It's probably a nectarine.

553. Those fanatical atheists

Comment #257956 by decius on October 1, 2008 at 9:35 am

Comment #257948 by al-rawandi

:wink:

You are right, mate.

554. Those fanatical atheists

Comment #257944 by decius on October 1, 2008 at 9:25 am

Comment #257931 by mjr1007

Actually, you said 'relativity' and didn't correct Steve when he made direct reference to special relativity, whose paper was published prior to the one concerning general relativity.

However, moving the goal-post is something that should be expected from you.

In any case, it doesn't make much of a difference, considered that Hilbert arrived at the same conclusions published by Einstein at around the same time, someone says even earlier.

Both special and general relativity would have been formulated - with or without Einstein - during the same decade.
Einstein was indeed a genius, but has become something of a pop-icon, and you are buying into the legend that surrounds his name.

555. Those fanatical atheists

Comment #257902 by decius on October 1, 2008 at 8:30 am

Comment #257893 by mjr1007

I had no idea I had such a following.


Don't flatter yourself, your ego-trip is preoccupying as it is.
We are in the habit of countering nonsense when we see it.

Your insistence about leaps in the context of relativity demonstrates a profound ignorance of the relevant history of science.

In September 1905 (received June 30), Albert Einstein published his annus mirabilis paper on what is now called Special Relativity. This paper contains - in the mathematical sense and with exception of the relativistic Doppler effect and aberration - no new results, but the derivation and the interpretation were radically new. Because of his axiomatic method, Einstein was able to derive all results on a few pages, while his predecessors needed many years of long, complicated work to arrive at the same mathematical formalism.


Added quote.

556. Those fanatical atheists

Comment #257846 by decius on October 1, 2008 at 7:37 am

This argument would allow you to say that relativity was just a natural evolution from classical physics. Which would mean Einstein was just a hack, and not one of the most revered physicist in history.


What a preposterous non sequitur. :shock:
You don't understand how new theories build on pre-existing ones. Relativity couldn't have been formulated prior to Newtonian physics and the theory of electromagnetism, and it branches from them. This fact doesn't in the least diminish Einstein's stature, but even without Einstein, relativity would have been formulated in the same decade by others. Poincare and Lorents were responsible for the necessary breakthroughs.

557. Debate: Would We Be Better Off Without Religion?

Comment #257800 by decius on October 1, 2008 at 6:19 am

Does anyone know what made Plimer going from suing creationists over the legend of the flood, to make wild claims about evidence for the flood?

Was he joking, has he gone mad, did he make a deal with cretinists to avoid bankruptcy?

I can't find this info anywhere.

His lawsuit.

558. Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks

Comment #257786 by decius on October 1, 2008 at 5:40 am

Is the 'spammer' caption awarded by the site administration, or does it reflect a form of self-awareness?

559. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257459 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 1:06 pm

Supremacism and racism are different concepts, I wouldn't use those words interchangeably.

560. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257440 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 12:42 pm

Comment #257436 by al-rawandi

:lol: :lol: :lol:

If you want to deny that is what you did, that is fine.


I actually hired a couple of private detectives to follow you around, too.

Ah, and I tapped your phone.

561. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257422 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 12:02 pm

Comment #257415 by al-rawandi

I swear, highly entertaining.

I really appreciate that you saw fit to apologise to Hawkt, and I don't really mind the melodrama you added to attack me, if that helped you along. It certainly didn't offend me.


The Fanusi issue has been declared closed.

562. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257408 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 11:49 am

Comment #257404 by al-rawandi

So I get really angry when my character gets assaulted by pathetic and cowardly opportunists, who have long awaited a chance to paint me as some kind of monster, but never could find the evidence,



ROTFL

563. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257379 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 11:19 am

Comment #257374 by al-rawandi

I have long been an equal opportunity offender


I am glad that you are proud of it.

That makes you an equal opportunity wanker.

564. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257372 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 11:09 am

Well, I agree about the boredom, and I cut it right here.

The issue has been eviscerated, everybody should know everybody's else position, by now.

565. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257365 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 11:00 am

Comment #257357 by al-rawandi

Well, those men may have a point. I don't know because I don't find you intimidating, just stereotypically funny.

It is a fact that three women complained, earlier.
I really don't need that to score points with you, actually, you do the hard work.

566. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257352 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 10:51 am

Comment #257349 by Peacebeuponme

No, sorry, you have it backwards.

Sharon, Titania and Hawkt complained within 2 hours of exactly the same thing.
I just broke to him that 3 complaints on a stretch may mean something.

567. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257339 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 10:37 am

Comment #257329 by al-rawandi

I am bothered by insinuating he is a racist


I think his connivance with supremacists on a supremacist site disqualifies him from rational discourse, particularly after his denial of the nature of the site.
His forma mentis is nothing new to me, I have encountered it in cranks, creotards, homoeopaths, and pseudo-scientists.
Denial of single or multiple aspects of reality is the unmistakable symptom.

Furthermore, his extreme dogmatism is a matter of public record, I've never seen him changing his mind about anything to which he has an ideological commitment.

I am not calling for his ban, but I share Steve's concern that Fanusi on the long run may prove to be a liability to the image of this site, or worse, to Richard's efforts.

568. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257317 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 10:06 am

Comment #257309 by al-rawandi


I already addressed the Fanusi issue, broadly. So did many others more eloquently than I.

I am not calling for his ban, if that is what bothers you.

569. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257307 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 9:54 am

Comment #257299 by al-rawandi

Yes, I did say that.

What I meant is that your manners with women are less than sterling. Whether you do it on purpose or not, I couldn't say.
If I were personally the object of those complaints, I would take a step back and see if I could remedy the problem.

I am glad that you are an advocate for women rights, it certainly will help you to see my point.

570. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257296 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 9:41 am

Comment #257288 by al-rawandi

I didn't accuse you of misogyny.

You could simply be less aggressive and condescending, as a matter of common courtesy. I am sure that the highly intelligent women who complained can take any fair criticism and rebut it with ease, if it's not yelled at their faces.

Just take it as a friendly suggestion, and everyone will be better off.


To your question, the manifesto and the message of the chief blogger are not separate entities.
Actually, one could suspect that the manifesto is a sort of window-dressing, since it contradicts somehow the overtones of the blog.

Our Fanusi calls himself a Loyal Citizen of his emperor, regardless of what the emperor advocates.
That's subscribing to one's views, in my book.

571. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257281 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 9:17 am

Comment #257274 by al-rawandi

Al, why don't you try and intimidate me?

Your bullying is selectively directed toward women. We have had three complaints, just today: Sharon, then Titania, then Hawkt.

That really says something about you, young man.

572. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257259 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 8:43 am

Comment #257251 by Fanusi Khiyal


actually, it turns out there is something of a manifesto, and I know it's not going to be believed, but this is the first time I've read it.

Anyway, now I'll return to the ether.




Yeah, do that. I'll summon you next time I need to mop the floor.

573. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257247 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 8:32 am

Comment #257240 by Fanusi Khiyal

There is no "manifesto"


Manifesto



the status of LC is not awarded but achieved by being able to edit your name.


I called it self-labelling in three occasions.

I never said it's awarded.

Would anyone here or anywhere call themselves a Loyal Citizen of a community whose manifesto they wouldn't adhere to?

575. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257227 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 8:13 am

Comment #257225 by al-rawandi

Not his personal life, but what he posted here, yesterday night.
Black on fucking white.


Sorry, but if you don't care to read what has happened, you are in no position to argue and criticise.

576. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257222 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 8:04 am

Comment #257219 by al-rawandi

Yeah, but that's only one of my points, what about the rest?

You can find confirmation of everything I said there, if you just take the time to do it.

It will help, I suppose. You don't seem to follow in great detail.

577. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257218 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 8:00 am

. Comment #257216 by severalspeciesof

It's Brother Epeeist, actually.
Steve can confirm.

578. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257207 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 7:44 am

Al,

I already did point you yesterday to what is, in my opinion, the relevant part: the denial in which Fanusi engaged as to the quality and content of the site.

Unless you agree with him that nicedoggies is a 'rant site', I made my reasons very clear - he is apologising for it, rationalising away its disturbing contents, minimising incitement to grievous and indiscriminate violence, pretending that he selectively failed to read relevant parts.

All this is clear sign of intellectual dishonesty, and I can no longer grant the benefit of the doubt.

Another revealing detail that yesterday I wasn't aware of: no nicedoggie poster is automatically labelled a Loyal Citizen, only those committed to its manifesto.

579. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257185 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 7:20 am

Thanks for your 'fair and balanced' assessment, al-limbaugh.

Comedy at its finest.

580. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257177 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 7:04 am

Comment #257172 by Peacebeuponme

Brilliant!
You definitely master the old-school interpretation (aka Robertson method), I am trying to learn from the right-wing nouvelle vague, instead.

581. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257171 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 6:52 am

Comment #257167 by Laurie Fraser

My socialism does, indeed, lead me to interpret events from a certain perspective, I am a hard-liner, and have resorted to tit-for-tat violence on the extreme right in Israel.


Here, readily quote-mined for the next occasion.

582. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #257070 by decius on September 30, 2008 at 2:38 am

From Urban Dictionary


anti-idiotarian

1.Idiot.

2.Any delusional internet-addict to be found in an echo-chamber.

3.One addicted to politics and/or religion.

4.Arduous and contrary simpleton.

5. Sociopath.

Honey did you see that Anti-idiotarian frothing at the mouth at last weeks dinner- party? If it didn't touch itself under the table each time it contradicted itself it would have been almost cute.


anti-idiotarian

1. (noun) Idiot

2. Person convinced that the world is in some way less impressive than they.

Today, whilst burning some incense to get rid of the smell of fried bacon, I was told by a passing anti-idiotarian that 'God would fill me with love for Objectivism if I woke up to the fact that I was a traitorous crack-whore fag-loving feminazi in need of a violent insertion of his 'gigantic' clue-by-four'. He then called my employers to tell them that I was a traitor to my country.

584. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256907 by decius on September 29, 2008 at 5:39 pm

Comment #256905 by GoatBoy36

I did.

Honestly, I couldn't march side by side with the BNP, whatever the reason. There must be other ways.

585. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256906 by decius on September 29, 2008 at 5:37 pm

Comment #256903 by Laurie Fraser

It is absurd that your character was even called into question.

What a travesty.

586. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256902 by decius on September 29, 2008 at 5:32 pm

Comment #256896 by Steve Zara

Actually, I am tempted to accept his offer, if he (rightly) feels that he has exhausted his role here and for the benefit of your future mood.

587. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256899 by decius on September 29, 2008 at 5:22 pm

Comment #256882 by Fanusi Khiyal

What line, precisely?

I am free to doubt every last word from a source of that calibre, who wouldn't hesitate to blow things out of proportion for portraying his side as being victimised.
Was it an attempted murder or what was it?
I would suspect anyone's will to participate in a demonstration which is organised by the like of the BNP as a sign of extremism.
I would call into question anyone's self-labelling as Loyal Citizen of a rabid supremacist and brand that, too, as a clear hallmark of extremism.

Opposing Islam is the right thing to do, in my opinion, but I cannot bring myself to respect the language of hatred, the threats of violence and the siding with thugs.

588. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256873 by decius on September 29, 2008 at 3:50 pm

This is interesting too.

The brave emperor of dogshite.net recounts the events that lead to Fanusi's father 'attempted murder'.

The post comments on an external article, that you should read first.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4799490.ece


Says his imperial highness:

Never mind the instant, kneejerk condemnation of the protesters as "far-right European extremists" in the first paragraph without as much as a hint of a justification for the charge. Instead, kindly note the barely contained glee of the "reporter" at the violent disruption of a peaceful protest by hoodlums, thugs and common criminals.

Heck, even the Völkischer Beobachter, in the Glory Days of the Nazi regime, would have hesitated to exhibit such joy at the news of deliberate and unprovoked violence against dissidents.
Which, of course, is all that matters. That the citizens of Cologne should have a say in the appearance of their city, a city that they've inhabited for a great deal longer than the Saracen hordes recently imported, is of course wholly irrelevant. This is no different from a bunch of pisslamic morons insisting on erecting a megamosque in the Vatican, and to suggest that any protest against such a move is "far-right extremist" only serves to tell us everything we need to know about the bias of the "reporter."

Imagine if Christians were trying to build a cathedral in Riyadh? His Majesty is pretty sure that the "reporter" in this story wouldn't be condemning pisslamic protesters in quite the same terms, if at all.

Again: Note how the only ones using violence, vandalism and thuggery are the pro-pisslamic vandals, yet it is somehow the other side that is labeled as "extremists."
The "reporter" is obviously trying to be cute here. No, it probably wouldn't be "conducive to law and order", but reasonable people would concentrate on the "why" of this, to which the answer would be: "because of 7th century barbarian savages who cannot and will not tolerate anybody else's right to have an opinion", rather than smugly chuckle at the "effrontery" of "right-wing extremists" daring to drive through an apparently "off limits" part of what used to be their own city.

Pause and consider the above quote again. Nowadays, the "police" of Eunuchistan are busying themselves with denying their own citizens access to certain parts of their own cities on the grounds that their mere presence is an affront worthy of police intervention.

THAT is how far down the path of subservient dhimmitude Eurabia has traveled.

Yet all the "reporter" of this story can find in itself is to chuckle at how the bloody "extremists" deserved it by daring to exist. Next week in the Times of London: A four page essay on how the Christian harlots of London deserve to be raped by pisslamic monkeys because they dare show themselves outdoors without wearing a burlap sack over their heads.

Note how the only party to this conflict actually guilty of violence are merely "anti-fascists trying to remonstrate", whereas the other party, who at no point initiated any sort of violence but were merely trying to express their disagreement publicly are automatically branded "right-wing extremists" who obviously deserved everything they got

Also not mentioned, and we can mention it only because we have other sources, in this case the father of our very own LC Fanusi who was actually present at the protest, is the fact that those "brave democratic anti-fascists remonstrating with the vile right-wing extremists" weren't "merely" resorting to vandalism, random violence and assorted other thuggery, there was also a "mysterious" explosion at a local train station preventing a lot of protesters from attending, an explosion that obviously wasn't nearly mysterious enough to make it into the Dhimmi Stream Media.

LC Fanusi's dad who is well past 70 years old was, by the way, nearly murdered by a couple of pisslamic turkish "democratic anti-fascist remonstrators", and when he appealed to law "enforcement" for protection against the would-be murderers, he was told that they had other, presumably much more important, things to do.

Yes, it has come to this. Neither the press nor the police are willing to do their jobs anymore. It is up to individual citizens to set things right if they're to be set right at all. Obviously, this has nasty implications, since such a solution will inevitably end up being a whole lot more messy than it needed to be, but it's either that or surrender to the Haji hordes.

We didn't start the fire, but it looks like we're going to have to dig out our own fire hoses to put it out, because it's becoming increasingly obvious that those elected to do so for us have absolutely no interest in doing their jobs.

It may "only" be Eurabia today, but you can rest assured that it will reach our shores too.

Unless we start hosing the Saracen savages down ourselves.

With lead.


At least now we know that it runs in the family, and where the indoctrination comes from.

589. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256862 by decius on September 29, 2008 at 3:31 pm

Comment #256859 by Corylus

Let us know what you think.

590. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256851 by decius on September 29, 2008 at 3:17 pm

Comment #256841 by Fanusi Khiyal

Fanusi, Fanusi.

Now, do you really want me to tear apart that accretion of sloppy thinking and logical fallacies?

And to answer your previous post, what you conceded falls short of any serious acknowledgement of facts.

591. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256839 by decius on September 29, 2008 at 3:06 pm

Comment #256837 by al-rawandi

How else do you explain this?


How is 'irrelevant to today's issue' as an explanation?

Tu quoque logical fallacy, as another?

592. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256834 by decius on September 29, 2008 at 3:00 pm

Comment #256831 by SharonMcT

Please, mr Genocidal Maniac, could you be more gentle with those mean sandniggers, while you lead me like an ass?

593. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256826 by decius on September 29, 2008 at 2:54 pm

Comment #256824 by al-rawandi

Al, I am not sure whether you understand what was being discussed between Fanusi and me.

Or do you agree with him that the site (NOT FANUSI) is not a supremacist site promoting revolting ideas?

594. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256822 by decius on September 29, 2008 at 2:47 pm

Comment #256818 by Fanusi Khiyal

We have found plenty of that.

Seriously, what is it you want from me?


An acknowledgement of plain facts, less hypocrisy, no denial of objective reality, more intellectual honesty.

I am not going to beg for it, mind you.

I extended you the possibility to explain yourself and offered a honourable way out from an untenable position.
Your entrenchment is duly noted.

Thanks, the issue is now clear to my full satisfaction.

595. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256815 by decius on September 29, 2008 at 2:38 pm

Fanusi

Dig deeper, be my guest.

as I said, I'd file that under a rant... - how many have been killed for that? How many laws have been broken? Nada.



By this ludicrous logic, file Hitler's threats in the Bierhalle in the early twenties under 'rants', after all, back then, how many have been killed for that? Nada.

Secondly, laws were arguably broken. There is a law in the UK against incitement to racial hatred and violence.

596. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256804 by decius on September 29, 2008 at 2:21 pm

Comment #256782 by al-rawandi

If you excuse me, with all respect, I wasn't present and I do not rely on second-hand information in so delicate matters.

When Laurie - who to my best knowledge isn't posting in supremacist sites advocating indiscriminate killings or the destruction of a country - is present, I will ask him if he actually supports any such views, and get back to you.

597. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256797 by decius on September 29, 2008 at 2:15 pm

Comment #256778 by Fanusi Khiyal

Sorry, any website, and organization promoting a political view, does not automatically advocate killings or resorting to indiscriminate violence. You are playing with words and minimising the repulsive nature of the views espoused by your beloved and pathetic emperor.

I am deeply saddened by the trivialisation that you are attempting in order to exculpate a bunch of would-be criminals.

The language, ideas, racial expletives and threats here expressed are stronger and more poisonous than those contained in Mein Kampf.




Bright move, you subhuman sand niggers. Somebody really ought to give you a lesson about how the Angels in Denmark dealt with past, er, "problems." They don't give a flying shit about consequences, and they're quite happy to unload an over-under in your fucking simian faces even if it means life in prison and, unlike you medieval savages, they actually know how to hit what they're aiming for.

I expect the total population of pisslamic savages to decline dramatically in the near future, and I'll be ever so fucking happy to hear about you assholes for allah the moon god eating hot lead. I've had it with you. I've heard about the "silent majority of moderate puslims" being against all of this for seven fucking years now, yet you have yet to lift a fucking finger against your monkey brethren. If you're that fucking silent, then you're of no fucking use to humanity, and it might just be a good idea for Europe to quit using the old camps as museum pieces and start firing up the ovens again.

THIS time, they'd be doing some good.

It's called "pest control."

Fuck you, your moon god and your pedophile prophet. Your asshattery has brought MY FAMILY into the firing line now, people that have done nothing but welcome your unworthy arses to their country, so now all bets are off. If only the paranoid ravings of Hamass and Fatah were true and the Evil Zionistsâ„¢ really had come up with a deadly disease that would only infect pusslims then I'd be all in favor of carpet bombing every fucking nation harboring as much as one of you with it.

I've smashed cockroaches more worthy of living than you, and that means ALL of you.

Ragheaded fuckheads.



It is now clear to me that you either refuse to face reality, either you are being extremely dishonest to us.

598. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256772 by decius on September 29, 2008 at 1:52 pm

Third attempt at getting a direct and clear response.

Encore:

So, Fanusi, I think you still owe me a clarification.

Are you or are you not satisfied that nicedoggies.net is in fact a supremacist site?

599. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256762 by decius on September 29, 2008 at 1:39 pm

So, Fanusi, I think you still owe me a clarification.

Are you or are you not satisfied that nicedoggies.net is in fact a supremacist site?

I really need to know how your cognition works.

600. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #256753 by decius on September 29, 2008 at 1:25 pm

Al,


as much as I may disagree with Laurie, there, I see no direct support of supremacist or genocidal ideas.

Also, ask Fanusi directly if I ever condemned him for simply posting there.

Outfoxed is excellent.