Comments by riandouglas

Comment #169226 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 4:21 pm

Dr Benway: Is it not within the power of the Lord to open my mouth, just as He once opened the mouth of Balaam's ass?

Not to bring down the tone of the thread (like I could after Truth), but was balaam's ass anything like goatse.cx guys ass?

Remnant: Flood?
TheTruthID: 5keptics ID question?

602. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169222 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 4:17 pm

Remnant: Science teacher: Today we are going to study this cake.
Student: Who made the cake.
Science teacher: It just happened let's just talk about the cake.
Student: But a cake can't just happen. Someone or something had to make it.
Science teacher: We are here to talk bout the cake.

And if the lesson was about the cake, the student would indeed be being disruptive to continually ask about who made the cake.
Would you not consider it disruptive for someone to continually ask about calculus while being taught trigonometry?
Oh, would you stop being such a gutless wonder and either trot out an argument for the flood, or admit you really have no idea?
You're being a great advertisment for the truthfullness of that book you place so much faith in. Remember, it's not just us godless heathens - there's likely to be a lot of "swing voters" coming from the expelled site.

Remnant: Flood?
TheTruthID: 5keptics ID question?

603. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169214 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 4:05 pm

Diacanu: So, Freddy Krueger, Spider-Man, Hulk, Terminator, Ash, HAL, Tron, Rocky, Blackadder, Baldric, Mr, Creosote, Rimmer, Lister, Kyten, I have to believe in all of them too?

Whoa! Hold on there egg head. It seem's you're implying that the Hulk is as imaginary as say Rimmer or Yahweh. You know very well that Dr. Bruce Banner is able to control his transformations now, and that accounts for the reduction in Hulk sightings we're experiencing during this age. When he's needed, he will return!

604. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169212 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 4:03 pm

masterbuilder: Which leaves me still with the question no one could answer me until now: Why is it unscientific to establish the thesis, that there could be the possibility of a intelligent designer to create the irreversible complexity (that was not known at Darwins times). Has science disproved the existence of God? Well why then it is called unscientific to propose that he may exists? To call this unscientific is the most unscientific statement one can make!

So, do you have a hypothesis regarding, say ID?
What makes ID science?
What predictions does it make?
How can these predictions be tested and falsified?
What tests have been made and what were the results?

605. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169210 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 4:00 pm

Masterbuilder, please check out www.expelledexposed.com to see the hypocrisy and untruth which has gone into the making of the film.

606. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169207 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 3:59 pm

Remnant:
You are in essence trying to hold him accountable to what you believe is a lie. If the Bible is a lie and morals are relevant to the individual, you have no grounds to criticize him at all. His morals would be equally valid to yours.

If you go back on this thread, you'll find some posts by "MPhil" where he soundly trashes someones idea's concerning morality from God/the bible.
Come back to us when you've read it.
Oh yeah, about the flood?

Remnant: Flood?
TheTrash: ID question?

607. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169204 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 3:57 pm

remnant:
Why are you referring to the Bible, taken out of context to what the passage reveals by the way, from the God you don't believe in? By doing this, you are pre-supposing that God exists, the Bible is His Word, and it is truth.

Actually, the good doctor is simply assuming the bible exists.
That you believe all of the other garbage concerning it is all the more reason to point out it's internal contradictions.
Have you gotten around to looking at the flood yet?

Remnant: Flood?
TheTrash: ID question?

608. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169200 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 3:51 pm

Origin of the universe.
Abiogenesis.
Evolution by natural selection.
Ohm's law.

These are distinct theories or sets of hypotheses. People who combine and confuse them reveal their own ignorance.

But Dr Benway, it's all a part of the "Grand Atheist Conspiracy" as you well know.
I think my chapter of the organisation is a sister chapter to the one you're in, though I'm pretty new.
Woops...I probably wasn't supposed to mention that, was I?

reamnant: Flood?
TheTrash: ID question?

609. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169196 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 3:46 pm

Bonzai: Do you think it was appropriate for TruthID to talk about other people's naked mothers? Is this the kind of "animal like" behavour that you would want to shield your children from? Would you allow your children to go to a Church with someone like TruthID?

implying that TheTruthID's behaviour was animal like simply will not do. He's saved, and is therefore filled with the holy spirit.
Isn't being saved supposed to change your behaviour so that you no longer indulge in such activities?
Keep on like that Truth, and you'll be joining both me and my mother in hell. Well you would, if hell were real. Have fun with your delusion though, it sounds great

EDIT: Nearly forgot

reamnant: Flood?
TheTrash: ID question?

610. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169192 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 3:42 pm

Podaar: Trying to threaten riandouglas mother with eternal burning. Wow.

He wasn't trying, he just came out and did it. Very Christ like of him. Good advertisment for the faith.

I actually like to think that Truth really meant my mothers eternal essence is holidaying at some type of tropical resort, and after having sat by the pool for some time, decided she was hot and went for a dip. That's actually what you meant, isn't it truth?

611. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169189 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 3:39 pm

Remannt, your paranoid fantasies make fascinating reading, but I'm more interested in your take on that whole global flood thing?

Remnant: Flood?
TheTruthID: 5keptics ID question?

612. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169184 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 3:35 pm

Diacanu: Prove me wrong, TTID.
Supply some peer reviewed positive proof of ID.

That's not fair diacanu. You're asking him to produce something from nothing, and Remnant thinks that's impossible.

Quetz: Why no insult for me? Everyone else got one.
-Pouts, kicks chair leg-

You're breath smells like Christians!
Plus, if you were in the D&D universe, green dragons tended to suck a bit

Remnant: Flood?
TheTruthID: 5keptics ID question?

613. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169180 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 3:33 pm

Truth: Why no comments on # 169151?

I did, you fool. Are you intending to attack the theory of abiogenesis, as it appears, or would you like to change your argument to be more against evolution. Your name suggests you have a problem with evolution, so I thought I'd ask.

Remnant: Flood?
TheTruthID: 5keptics ID question?

614. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169173 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 3:31 pm

Truth: What does Hawking say of the Universe having a beginning?

You actually want to discuss something instead of attempting to be offensive. Impressive, not.

The hawking-hartle model requires no beginning to the universe, unless I'm all mixed up. Steve would provide a more authorative answer. Or, you could look it up yourself, so as to not seem so ignorant while trying to argue your point. Though you've done precious little of that.

Remnant: Flood?
TheTruthID: 5keptics ID question?

615. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169170 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 3:27 pm

TruthID: Nope I can't. She's not in the right place for me to talk to her. She's too busy trying to cool off.

Good. At least she won't have to hang around with ignorant tosswads like yourself for all eternity.
Hope you didn't expect me to act all insulted by your insuation that my mother is roasting in the fires of hell. Stick to you delusion, I guess it must be cozy.

Remnant: Flood?
TheTruthID: 5keptics ID question?

616. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169163 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 3:24 pm

Truth, what you're having a go at is abiogenesis. Are you intending to, or do you mean to show us the flaws in evolution? Also, I think you're wanted on another thread by 5keptic.

Remnant: A first principle of knowledge is that from nothing comes nothing.

To which I'd say "quantum vacuum fluctuations".

Remnant: Scientific discoveries have confirmed that the universe had a beginning. Since the universe had a beginning, it therefore had a cause.

Wrong again. It's undecided (I think) whether the universe had a begining or not. Steve has tried to explain this, but you're again being willfully ignorant.

Given the poor start can I ignore the rest of your comment, or have you written something which is not dreadfully flawed?

Remnant: Flood?
TheTruthID: 5keptics ID question?

617. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169153 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 3:15 pm

Bonzai: Good luck. This one cannot even string a coherent sentence together, he would rather talk about your mother instead. Next to him Remnant looks like an intellectual.

My mother's been dead for 4 years now, so I hope he's only talking about her. Then again, given his beliefs, he might think he's talking to her. Truth, if you are, could you say "Hi" from me? Thanks muchly

Remnant: Flood?
TheTruthID: 5keptics ID question?

618. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169148 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 3:11 pm

Haha. Either that or bed time.

Nah, it's 8:10am here. time to get up (had I been to bed) :-(

Didn't get the flood story. Gutted.

I doubt there'll be any interesting developments while you're away

Remnant: Flood?
TheTruthID: 5keptics ID question?

619. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169147 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 3:10 pm

Epeeist: wish you joy of these two, but I rather think Dr. Benway's advice is probably apposite. Three strikes and they are out. The evasions speak for themselves.

I wonder if the web site powers that be (Josh) could add some feature whereby your profile lugs around a set of questions you're yet to answer, and who has asked them. Would be interesting, but I'm sure it would be ripe for abuse.

Remnant: Flood?
TheTruthID: 5keptics ID question?

620. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169143 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 3:06 pm

Stuart, someone probably sharted. i'm to far away to be able to tell absolutely.

Remnant: Flood?

621. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169140 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 3:01 pm

Remnant: Flood?

622. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169130 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 2:55 pm

I remember an automated insult generator back in the day which would make Truth look like the babe he is.

Then again, I think you could get "Elisa" to profer more insulting advice than that clown.

623. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169118 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 2:51 pm

TruthID: What am I doing here? Simple. How do you keep a bunch of ignorant stupid morons busy?

Apparently by asking them for some kind of verification for their beliefs, but I asked what you were doing here, not me.

Remnant: Flood?

EDIT: Wrong quote. Sleep would be helpfull

624. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169113 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 2:48 pm

Remnant: I don't disagree that humans are a part of the animal kingdom. Being a part of the animal kingdom does not mean that one must act like one.

So you accept evolution? Bravo! And here I was thinking you were being willfully ignorant concerning this stuff.

Now, about that flood?

625. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169111 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 2:47 pm

Remnant: If that cake has finished baking, could you answer a question concerning the flood instead of continually deflecting it into other areas. If I didn't know better (and I don't) I'd say you don't have any sort of answer. If you don't, it's ok to say "I don't know". Heck, it's somewhat encouraged around these parts.
If you want to claim you've answered the question by telling us to research it ourselves, please provide either a summary or a link to something which you would endorse concerning this flood hypothesis of yours.

626. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169093 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 2:42 pm

MaxD: But are you sure that is Havok? I thought it was one of the elementals.

Not absolutely certain no, but when I snarfed it (some time ago) I was.

627. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169089 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 2:40 pm

So Remnant or Truth, any chance you enlightened and saved individuals could channel the holy spirit, stop your inane, childish insults, and answer some questions?
If not, what are you doing here? Why not simply piss off back to wherever you came from? Surely there are otehr souls to be deluded?

Remnant: Any idea about the biblical flood?

628. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169070 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 2:34 pm

Quetz: Sure, call me what you like. Was Havok in the original X-men cartoons? He looks vaguely familiar. (I know this question makes me sound geeky, but it'll nag at me if I don't ask).

Not sure. He's cyclops's brother. The choosing of the nick and the super-hero were unrelated - the only time I read the comics was while in newsagents.
you could check http://www.marvel.com/universe/Havok for details

629. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169053 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 2:28 pm

Remnant: No, I don't think it wise for children to associate with uncivil, foul mouth people, basically near animals.

We (homo sapiens sapiens) are animals you dolt!
Woops, you meant it as some kind of insult concerning our rude behaviour.
Didn't you say your kids were (mid-late) teenagers (or am I mis remembering)? If so, they're probably not "children" anymore. Thought of cutting the apron strings at all?

630. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169045 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 2:25 pm

Quetz (can I call you Quetz - I've never addressed a deity before), it a pic of Havok from the Marvel X-Men universe. I chose the name while playing "Wing Commander III" and decided to hang on to it.

631. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169028 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 2:18 pm

I think we have a small selection of questions at present, Remnant:

- What is your flood hypothesis? When? How?
- Does Genesis 1 & 2 represnt a truthfull account of the creation of the universe?
- What do you consider good and evil?

I've probably missed a couple, but these seem to be a little recuring. They're somewhat sorted chronological by time of asking, so if you could answer them in that order, that would be nice, but it isn't necessary.

Oh, please list those unanswered questions of yours and we'll probably rectify that for you.

632. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169014 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 2:11 pm

Bonzai: As Diancanu so insightfully pointed out, if he is not afraid to show his children the X rated material in the Bible, which is full of gratuitous sex and violence, what is a little bit off hand swearing and man to man love (I never talk about my non existent sex life, maybe steve did. :)P)

The bible is all about love. Can't have love without a bit of lovin'. Don't think there is much of the "tender" sort in there however. Probably a bit rough for most, though Remnant seems to like it - closet (or not so closet) S&M fetish?

Bonzai: If he thinks his kids are so easily corruptible, that is an indication of lack of faith, either for his children or God, or perhaps he thinks God would use the opportunity to test them and they would fail?

Doesn't jesus say that any who take the faith from a child would be better of drowned with a large rock or something? Perhaps Remnant fears that, by exposing his children to us he'll be in danger of joining us in hell.
Is that it Remnant?

Remnant: When was the flood? Why doesn't the fossil record match a flood?

633. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #168991 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 1:56 pm

Dr Benway: You cannot defeat a revenant.

I'm pretty sure you can, though my memory is a little hazy on the details. I could dig out my Dungeons & Dragons monster manual if you'd like. From memory the easiest way is to let it fulfill its vengefull purpose.

Remnant: Flood all tidied up?

634. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #168985 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 1:52 pm

Bonzai: Exactly, I wonder why Remnant doesn't tell his children about this site and his debate with us here. Maybe he doesn't have enough faith in them, or in God, or both?

I said before, it's an irrational fear of the way Diacanu, Al, Rev Dark, irate and others (apologies if I missed anyone) wield profanity.
That, or he's afraid they'll catch "the gay" off your good self and Steve (again, apologies if I missed anyone)

635. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #168974 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 1:45 pm

RevDark: I know you don't want to answer this; I understand why you don't want to answer this. It has nothing to do with your strange paranoid fantasies of atheist/libera/fascist/intolerant/demanding cabals; and everything to do with you looking like a bell end when the historical reality of the flood is proven to be impossible.

Surely Remnant, who sounds like he's thoroughly researched the issue and come to hold a great deal of confidence in his position due to that, is eager to answer the question. I don't think it's really fair to talk about paranoid fantasies, because when the evidence is presented we'll surely not be able to doubt the veracity of the flood account as presented in the bible (and the epic of gilgamesh, but lets not quibble).

So how about it remnant? Any news on the flood? Year? Mechanism? Fossil record?

636. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #168964 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 1:37 pm

Remnant: Sir, I have asked dozens of questions that are not responded to.

Perhaps because you've refused to indulge in the normal give and take which this sort of "debate" takes.
Also, you might want to list those questions, as I don't remember any going unaddressed - the other side to you being bombarded by questions by lots of "us" is that most of yours are likely to be answered due to there being lots of "us".

Remnant: Have you tested your flood hypothesis yet? How did it turn out?

637. Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

Comment #168956 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 1:32 pm

I don't actually want to encourage either wooter or clearmind to post more of their gibberish, but perhaps running a first language version of your presumably ill thought out ideas through an automated translater would result in something which was semi-coherent enough for people to respond to.
Then, you could take the responses and run them back to your native tongue.

I can't see how the result could be any worse than what you currently post.

638. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #168943 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 1:19 pm

Dr Benway: Isn't Reverend Dark's avatar a dog looking out a window?

Ah, but the dog is obviously lacking in vurility.

Remnant: Got an update on the flood yet?

EDIT: Remnant, it wasn't nice to draw attention to Rev Darks problem like that. He was a victim of a sorcerer in the "Penis panic" mentioned earlier, and could not afford to pay to have his manhood returned

639. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #168940 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 1:17 pm

MaxD: That seems to be the way it is used isn't it?
They can't even accept their book is a cobble that could be wrong, and actually is internally inconsistent.

That might be akin to going into set theory or peano arithmatic (or however it's done) to prove the "2 2=4" statement.
Who in the general public even knows there is a way to do that, let alone could follow along.

Remnant: Flood?

640. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #168937 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 1:14 pm

Dr Benway: The onus is on the person making the positive claim to defend that claim.

The default position, "claim X has not been proven" requires no defense.

To be fair(ish), ipashchuck is trying to word things in a way that implies it's me/us making a claim, and asking what evidence we would like. Thanks for calling him/her/it on it

I should leave the calls for Remnant to answer questions until it is actually active, I suppose...Nah
Remnant: Flood hypothesis?

641. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #168931 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 1:10 pm

MaxD: I think another part of the disconnect at least on Remmynant was his inability to believe that people could remain unconvinced of God's existance with out willful rebellion.

It might be the lack of sleep talking, but it seems that quoting the bible is akin to asking someone "What's 2 2?" - the truth of the biblical statements should be/are obvious, and yet we still do not worship. Therefore we must be denying Yahweh (or whoever) willfully.

642. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #168926 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 1:07 pm

ipashchuck: What kind of evidence are you looking for?

What do you have? If I can assume you're a believer, what evidence made you believe?

ipashchuck: Logical inconsistencies How so?

All religious books are internally inconsistent. An omni-everything god is not logical. The trinity is not logical. problem of evil.

ipashchuck: Do you need a logical explanation though?

I need the explanation to make sense. If someone claims access to that which no greater can be imagined, and then I find the belief is worthy of ridicule, I'm not likely to believe am I?

Remnant: Finished with the flood thing?

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Comment #168917 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 12:57 pm

MaxD: Remnant certainly dropped lots of perspiration into his key board feverishly fretting about imagined strawmen.

Well, given his slavish conviction to the reality of the imaginary, he's likely trying to clean the straw up, or use it to soak up the sweat.

Remnant: Flood?

EDIT: That sentence almost makes sense. Maybe I should get some sleep? Nah, I'll have to catch up on 10 pages here if I do.

644. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #168913 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 12:54 pm

Al: Some people lack one of these. And some people (*ahem* Remnant *ahem*) lack them all.

I think remnant has decent distract intelligence. They've been able to distract the conversation away from actually answering anything of note.

Remnant: Thesis concerning the reconciliation of the geoligical column and associated fossils with a world wide flood available anytime soon?

645. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #168895 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 12:42 pm

ipashchuk: Ah, but what leads you to believe that there is no reason to believe in the existence of a deity?

Lack of evidence. Logical inconsistencies. Oh, and probably the initial reason - lack of need.

Anyone: Flood questions answered?

646. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #168882 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 12:25 pm

ipshuk: A lack of belief in something constitutes a belief to the contrary or simply "I don't know". A religious view is a view that either supports the existence of a deity or denies it. You may define the two views by categorizing them as "religious" and "irreligious" but they are both views regarding the existence of a deity nonetheless (i.e. pertaining to religion). You must be thinking about agnosticism (or variations of it)...

No denying of a deity. If you provide some evidence, I might consider the existence of your deity of choice a possibility, but with so many to choose from, and no way to distinguish which might be the right one (or ones - shout out to my homeboy Thor and his dad Odin - word!), I don't deny, I simply see no reason to believe in existence.

Remnant: Flood hypothesis coming along nicely, is it?

647. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #168878 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 12:19 pm

RevDark: It is only with Saul and the new testament that hot girl on girl action is given the licking that the faithful believe it deserves.

And I'd been told saul was such a nice guy. Well, there goes any sort of respect I may have had for him. How dare he condemn those lovely ladies! Who does he think he is - Jesus?

Remnant: Flood?

edit: bold tag ended

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Comment #168873 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 12:16 pm

Awesome, I got a Dr Benway mention. Thanks Doc
"this is a great honour. I'd like to thank the academy. And my mum. I'd also like to thank Yahweh, but being imaginary, he had fuck all to do with it

Al, you mentioned your mispelling of the good Doc's name earlier in this (or another) thread. I thought you were doing it in reference to her avatar, assuming the bird to be a wren.

TheTruthID: What ya talking about?

Trying to get blood from a stone, or more accurately a scientific theory of the flood from a Christian.

You probably wouldn't be interested.

Remnant: Flood?

649. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #168863 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 12:10 pm

Tyler Durden: I should kill my room-mate who's gay, as well as his friend, who both stayed over at last night and slept together. In the same room. In the same bed.

I think the passage is clear. Such deviant behaviour surely calls for a stoning or 2.

My bible skills are not too great, having had many better things to do, but would I be right in thinking lesbians are safe from the wrath of Yahweh and his followers?

Remnant, why don't you folk call your God by his name?

Remnant: Any update to the search for the real global flood?

650. Is religion a threat to rationality and science?

Comment #168859 by riandouglas on April 25, 2008 at 12:06 pm

Copson: Clearmind, why do you call yourself this??? You produce nothing but unintelligible gibberish!

It's only gibberish because your inferior mind cannot comprehend the brilliance of clearmind's LOGIC. See, I put it in capitals, so it must be correct.
On second thoughts, it's 5am and I haven't slept, so I'd say you're on the money.