651. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #194166 by al-rawandi on June 16, 2008 at 1:39 pm

KArda,






Like what pre-conceived notion? I am sure you can at least mention one of my "pre-conceived" notions.

652. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #194160 by al-rawandi on June 16, 2008 at 1:25 pm

Karda,






Well I have no pre-conceived notions I need to prove with carefully selected and dismissed evidence. Once you give up those notions life gets so very easy.


What material CD?

653. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #194132 by al-rawandi on June 16, 2008 at 12:57 pm

Karda,

Sea level rose by over 100m in a relatively short period of time. Assuming the ancient populations clustered on the coasts, near river deltas, they would see their homes consumed by the flood waters and the ocean.

Would this kill everyone as the Bible says. I think the people living in the mountains near Bishkek would no doubt have survived, as the people in Kashmir. So many mountainous people would have survived.

And all the animals still have to live within walking distance of Noah's house.

654. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #194124 by al-rawandi on June 16, 2008 at 12:51 pm

Steve, eppeist, rev. D,






The name "Received the Gift" reminds me of a bumper sticker they had a decade ago which said:

"I found it"

With all religious implications. Well my father's friend got a bumper sticker that said:

"I found it..... but now my finger stinks."


Makes me wonder what RTG's finder smells like.

655. Breaking the Silence

Comment #194100 by al-rawandi on June 16, 2008 at 12:18 pm

Fanusi,





Excellent point. There is no official condemnation of Bin Laden (except for some Saudi Shaykhs) coming from the Muslim world. It is rather shocking when these shaykhs launched numerous verbal assaults on Indian tennis star Saniya Mirza for her "un-Islamic" dress.


BTW, it is boring around here when you disappear.

656. How to reconcile Richard Dawkins?

Comment #194091 by al-rawandi on June 16, 2008 at 12:11 pm

epeeist,






The Tamil Eelam struggle is one of nationalism. Vallipulai Prabhakaran is a lapsed Christian and many of the bombers are secular Hindus, one soldier even saying she had never stepped foot in a Hindu temple.

Suicide bombing is largey an issue of Nationalism, specifically with respect to Tamil Eelam. Lebanon saw the same issue, in addition to Hezbollah there were Christian suicide bombers as well. Robert Pape does the best research on the topic, plenty of statistics, and a complete listing of all suicide attacks and the religion and profile of the bombers as well as the targets.

657. Saving Us from Darwin

Comment #194076 by al-rawandi on June 16, 2008 at 11:52 am

Look at you gentlemen. I am constantly amazed at the patience some people here show the benighted hoardes who constantly cycle through this place. I guess I don't fall under "helpful" or "educational" in my approach.

Such gentlemen you are, but me, in the duel I turn at 7 paces and fire.


MPhil,


You mean to say polite is better than the hack and slash approach to stupid arguments?

658. How to reconcile Richard Dawkins?

Comment #194055 by al-rawandi on June 16, 2008 at 10:43 am

D'arcry,






What right do you have to FORCE someone to give up the fruits of their labor for other people? That is what you are saying, people should be forced to live in your system.

You act, like MArx so blindly did, like there is no way for someone who labors to move up and become an owner. And of course you are ignoring every single business that has employee ownership. Why don't you start a business and implement an employee ownership system, maybe it will catch on.

The difference between current western systems and socialism, is that in western systems, you are allowed to change how things are, while in socialist societies there is no personal ambition. You could easily make use of your liberty by attempting to implement aspects of your proposed system, and perhaps one day you will get your dream of robbing people of their liberty.

I have said it once and I will say it again, people come to the US to pursue their dreams for a reason.

659. Saving Us from Darwin

Comment #194004 by al-rawandi on June 16, 2008 at 9:22 am

ketch22,

You tend to belittle those who say they know something different than you by saying they are the one's who are arrogant.

No, we ask them for evidence for these beliefs. Then when they have none they look irrational and foolish, and instead of deciding to base opinions on evidence, they decide to write little posts like you did, accusing those who demand rational proof of being "belittling" and "arrogant".


Arrogance isn't demanding proof. Arrogance is believing something without proof, and continuing to believe despite all evidence to the contrary. Don't confuse your fear of the truth with arrogance on our part.

I am no more fake than you, except that I don't claim to know everything, only God. And for you to scoff at that sincere belief makes you fake.

Show me where he claimed to know everything? He never said this, nor acted that way. You are simply fabricating things, which is a common habit with the theistic visitors here. Epeeist has only ever claimed to know what he can prove, while you claim to know what you cannot prove.

If the truth is the truth, why would it change? It seems to me that science is changing all the time and finding falicies w/ past theories and developing new ones. Which one is the truth? The one that steadfastly doesn't change or the one that changes daily?

Holy smokes. Read that back to yourself. Religion has changed a great deal my friend. Do Catholics still burn witches or torture Jews into fake conversions? Even the Pope eventually conceded on the point of evolution. The Church long ago gave up Ptolemy's solar system. So you obviously aren't up to date on what has "changed".

660. Divine Impulses: Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Comment #193986 by al-rawandi on June 16, 2008 at 9:05 am

Vin,





Arizona can be brutal, no doubt about it.


It was 90 defrees (f) in Jeddah in December.

661. Divine Impulses: Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Comment #193938 by al-rawandi on June 16, 2008 at 8:24 am

vinelectric,






The settlers are religious whackos... that is why the Israelis stick them in settlements. They do it because they don't want them in Israel proper, and also they will defend vigorously against any invasion.

662. Gay brains structured like those of the opposite sex

Comment #193926 by al-rawandi on June 16, 2008 at 8:12 am

Dhamma,





Don't sell yourselves short... 9.2 million.

663. Divine Impulses: Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Comment #193885 by al-rawandi on June 16, 2008 at 7:33 am

qomak,






Israel is proof that the Middle East is a screwed up place.


Read the Old Testament, a nasty and violent text. And Jews were nasty and violent. They then spent 2,000 years in Europe and came back a lot nicer than the people who remained in the region (Arabs). Even 2,000 years in the west didn't wash off all the fanatics and undesireables. Still so many whack job Jews... they send these to the occupied territories, arm them, and allow them to live on stolen land. That isn't particularly smart. 2,000 Sky daddy real estate contracts are a bad way to run a state.

664. Saving Us from Darwin

Comment #193863 by al-rawandi on June 16, 2008 at 6:50 am

Steve,

I just hope he/she doesn't start thinking they can fly.

I hope just the opposite. I would love to see some demonstrations of God's power. Perhaps a few believers making attempts at flight or some other miracle would be just what we heathens need to convince us of "God".

I, as of today, have yet to get someone to follow the words of Jesus in Mark 16:18 or Luke 10:9 where he says his followers can drink poison.

665. Divine Impulses: Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Comment #193845 by al-rawandi on June 16, 2008 at 6:08 am

rrazdan,





Let's not forget that after the "explosion" in Gaza which killed several civilians including a child, Hamas blamed Israel for a "strike" and in response launched al-Qassam rockets into the western Negev. But then last Thursday Hamas admitted that the blast was actually a bomb making shop which exploded and it wasn't Israel that "attacked" Gaza.

The problem is that Hamas will lie, lie, and lie some more. I too want to have the Palestinians realize a state, but that requires credibility, and the Palestinians have none at this point. I would also like to point you to youtube videos of Israeli soldiers shooting journalists, and international peace activists. The evidence is damning.

666. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #193842 by al-rawandi on June 16, 2008 at 6:01 am

Secularist,





I am growing extremely weary of your stupidity which you continue to shat upon this board.


You are the one lying:

It is not something that you denial in Wahhabis and accuse Judaism.

Show me where I denied anything to defend "Wahhabis"?

Can you even define what a Wahhabi is? Can you name one book bin Abd al-Wahhab wrote? Can you tell me in what century he was born? Can you fucking do anything right?

What I said was that it was impossible for Wahhabis to have committed atrocities in the sub-continent in the 15th Century because bin Abd al-Wahhab was born in 1701. How the fuck would Wahhabis kill someone if THEY DIDN'T EVEN EXIST yet? Can you answer that you fucktard? It is a matter of math, another topic on which you are completely ignorant.

The problem is that while you told lie about jews and Judaism you reject the true about Wahhabis.

Show me where I rejected something true about Wahhabis? ONE FUCKING place you repellent liar. And why don't you go check the "Losing our Spines" thread where I am defending Israel on a number of fronts.

To be quite honest Wahhabis hate many type non-Wahhabis and not only Jews.

Of coursae they do, but not because of what Bin Abd al-Wahhab wrote, they hate Jews for the same reason many other Muslims do. It is an issue of causation, but you are clearly too stupid to figure this out.

As for your link, I have published more on Wahhabis than you have ever read.

So some evidence of my so-called "denials" of true fact. And maybe you could also explain why Jews need special ambulances? Can you possible answer that... you stupid twat.

667. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192597 by al-rawandi on June 13, 2008 at 2:03 pm

Quine,





How about an interpersonal relationship? Isn't that ontologically untenable. It does not "exist" as a thing, however it can make someone happy or ruin their life. Strange is it not?

668. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #192589 by al-rawandi on June 13, 2008 at 1:29 pm

MPhil,






You mean to tell me that "meme" has no ontological value.... I am shocked.... :-)

669. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192564 by al-rawandi on June 13, 2008 at 11:51 am

Fanusi,

Actually, they weren't. They really weren't. The Muslims overran two-thirds of Christendom before they were stopped, and you can see the blight they have visted on the once hellenized and civilized North Africa.

Uhhhh it was the crusaders who killed the men in Acre and then raped the women. That WAS barbaric. The Crusades were barbaric on both sides, they were both barbarians, you cannot say only one side was and still be considered intellectually honest.

The Christians visited horrible atrocities upon the populations they encountered. No question about it.

Carol Hillenbrand wrote a good book on this.

670. Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks

Comment #192555 by al-rawandi on June 13, 2008 at 11:24 am

Vecingetorix,





I certainly agree. We may have to wait until Hamas totally fails at governing for there to be talks.

Part of the problem with these talks is that diplomacy only works when the two sides share basic principles. For instance, Hezbollah tells its children that Jews spread AIDS... once these children grow up, how do you expect them to engage in peaceful negotiations with Jews? You simply can't, thus negotiation will be inherently fruitless.

If you remember the Nahr al-Barid situation. The Lebanese army claimed there was a terrorist group in the Nahr al-Barid Palestinian refugee camp. They said it was named Fath al-Islam and was allied with al-Qaeda, of course no one who knew anything about Lebanon or Palestinian religious groups had heard of this group. The Lebanese army assaulted the camp, and then nothing was heard. At the same time US flights came in to "supply" the army for the operation. The whole thing was a cover for the US to send supplies and arms to the Lebanese government for a clash with Hezbollah.

Hamas is basically sequestered in Gaza now, and the Israeli pressure on Gaza is designed to squeeze the population and turn them against their Hamas leaders. This has not been totally effective, and Hamas has proved they are exceptional opportunists.

In an incident which I think evidences Hamas' duplicity... there was a large explosion in Gaza, and the Hamas government accused Israel of launching an attack, and immediately Hamas launched Qassam rockets into Western Negev. Well, just yesterday Hamas said that it was not an Israeli attack, but rather a Hamas bomb making factory that had exploded, they had been preparing a "special operation" there.

These are just examples of how both sides have manipulated events to gain a foothold in a very painful power struggle.

671. Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks

Comment #192547 by al-rawandi on June 13, 2008 at 11:00 am

Greek,







Look at you. Look at this pathetic shit.


Hezbollah = propagating old anti-semitic myths.

Evidence, 29 Episodes on al-Manar
Evidence, Text books given to school children
Evidence, Public statements.


lastgreek, tries to change subjects.


Can't weasel your way out, you defended Hezbollah but refuse to condemn their outrageous behavior, that is tacit commendation.


Let me hear you shout:

Bi-ruh bi-dam nafdeek ya Nasrallah

672. Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks

Comment #192540 by al-rawandi on June 13, 2008 at 10:35 am

Greek,






Hezbolllah said it, on al-Manar in fact. How is it an absurd accusation? You simply don't want it to be true, yet it is. How do you hand wave away the 29 episodes of al-Shatat?


What I asked Finkelstein was whether or not he knew of the statement and his opinion on the matter. He, unlike you, was able to address some of the issues at hand.

No, fish, I am not Finkelstein (nor _riverrun_, as you and your guppies seem to believe). It's funny because all this time I thought you were Alan Dershowitz.

Yeah right, after I called Dershowitz a plagarist. You are not very bright, that is for sure.


Hand waved away. Anyone can see what you are up to here, dogmatic defense of anything anti-Israel, including the blood libel.... Oh ya forgot to mention when this al-Manar program said Jews consumed the blood of gentile babies... but you knew that since you, no doubt, have the whole set on DVD.

673. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #192536 by al-rawandi on June 13, 2008 at 10:18 am

Keith,







Sometimes it just feels good to get up and just pummel a faith head for his stupid views. Sometimes it isn't about converts but showing atheists that they are still in the right. Although I do generally agree with your statements.


A faith will go to a debate and no matter the conclusion will claim victory. So here is how the systme works:


1) Faith head debates atheist
2) Faith head trounced
3) Faith head claims victory
4) Other faith heads agree, since they have alread determined faith is the correct position.
5) Other faith heads then cite this victory in other conversations with atheists.

That is how the cookie crumbles.

674. Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks

Comment #192518 by al-rawandi on June 13, 2008 at 8:59 am

Ooooh more on Hezbollah and AIDS accusations:

The CSA cited as evidence an al-Manar broadcast last week that spoke of "Zionist attempts to transmit dangerous diseases like AIDS through exports to Arab countries". The broadcast said Israel had "no scruples" about infecting Arabs and Muslims.

-Lebanonwire



Seems Hezbollah was saying Jews DELIBERATELY spread AIDS, through exports to Arab countries.

This goes nicely with the accusations that Jews brought AIDS to Iran and the Hamas cleric who said Jews are an infection just like AIDS.


But don't worry, lastgreeklying supports this group's "self defense".


Honestly does any rational person here have any doubt about what Hezbollah has said about Jews (don't forget 29 episodes of Al-Shatat which was a visual expression of the Protocols and The Blood Libel).

675. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #192509 by al-rawandi on June 13, 2008 at 8:34 am

irate,





When Robertson speaks, he is arrested for breach of wind.

676. Discussion between Richard Dawkins and Paula Kirby

Comment #192500 by al-rawandi on June 13, 2008 at 8:08 am

Steve,





He wouldn't win. He would simply claim victory. He has never one in any argument here. He has claimed victory.

677. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192491 by al-rawandi on June 13, 2008 at 7:19 am

Elephant,






Sounds like Muhammad cartoons are illegal in England.


That is too bad, I am so thankful for the freedom to say whatever the hell I please. It is really great... I can march down Market St. here in S.F. and shout "Fuck Muhammad" and that won't get me in trouble. I might have to punch a few Muslims, but the police would probably protect me.

Great isn't it. But the converse is that I have to put up with pro-life demonstrations and other nonsense. But it is well worth it to be able to say anything I please!

678. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192480 by al-rawandi on June 13, 2008 at 6:43 am

Epinephrine,

I do object to the "rifle droppers" comment, as someone whose relatives in Europe did anything but drop rifles. That attitude is horrible, and suggests that the USA was the only one who stood up and fought.

I said in this thread that the British mounted the noblest defense of their homeland, and in other threads I have mentioned the French resistance. So when I talk about rifle droppers it is a somewhat hyperbolic reaction to some fucktard who thinks "The Biggest Loser" is a Gallop Poll of Americans. And yes alvorin is a complete and utter fucktard.


I really don't know how to answer your nuclear weapons query.


I will say this, the formation of the military in the time of the Revolutionary War was of state militias. In 1903 the Militia Act rolled these groups into divisions of a national army, under the Dept. of Defense. Theoretically this was a violation of the understanding, and thus changed the nature of the 2nd Amendment, as states should ultimately control arms through the militia.

Now the 2nd Amendment has become more practical than theoretical. And the final words are "Shall not be infringed". I take that seriously.

679. Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks

Comment #192478 by al-rawandi on June 13, 2008 at 6:31 am

Vecingetorix,






Excellent point. Lebanon had been moving in a positive direction until several things tripped it up:


1) Syrian meddling
2) An awful Israeli invasion.



But to be honest, Lebanon was far from a jewel (perhaps compared to Syria it was). The basis of Lebanese democracy was confessionalism, which maintained a Maronite president. This of course meant that Maronites became unwilling to take a census because they would have lost power. Although they have overcome this.


Lebanon was set to be a good case of reconcilliation between disparate groups, but the meddling of Iran, Syria, and Israel effectively destroyed this.


You were right to observe the Bush administration's complicity and the Israeli responsibility, but you should also mention the other players in the mess. And you will no doubt have noticed that Hezbollah backed off some of the harsher tactics once they were included in politics.

680. Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks

Comment #192476 by al-rawandi on June 13, 2008 at 6:26 am

Greek,



You are so unoriginal:

Hezbollah successfully defended their country against Israeli occupation. I admire that. As for their politics, I couldn't care less; I don't live in Lebanon.

Do you cut and paste from Norman Finkelstein articles or do you write out the plagarism. This is virtually a word for word copy of what Finkelstein said. And as I correspond regularly with him, it is almost identical to what he wrote me when I asked him about the AIDS comment. Either you are Norman Finkelstein or you are a petty imposter.

The Israeli security services have been wiretapping the phone lines of Arab MK's for years. That's no big secret. Bishara knew his phones were tapped. I don't believe anyone (except you) would be that stupid to pass classified information knowing full well others were listening in. Besides, what information could this "little guy" (exactly) give? This is absurd

He suggested to Hezbollah that they should target the missile south of Haifa.

You can look up the articles yourself. I am tired of you harping on minutia when the serious issues go unaddressed.

We covered this already.

This should have read:

I hand waved this already

There that's a better description of what you did.





I will detail one instance of your dubious argumentation and then be done... When I said Hizbollah claimed that Jews spread AIDS, you said that they didn't say the Jews did it intentionally. Why the apologetics... how would the Jews spread AIDS to the Arab world accidentally? How would that happen since there is all of zero intermarriage? Are the Jews rapists? Do they weaponize AIDS? Which one is it? See, this is the difference, when Israel is wrong, I say "Israel is wrong", I can criticize people for wrong actions when I don't have a dogmatic allegiance. Yet when Hezbollah does something nasty you have to lose yourself in details to avoid the condemnation of their racist propaganda and disgusting abuse of the people of Lebanon as well as Israelis. They told 5 and 6 year old school children that Jews spread AIDS, how is that ever acceptable, and why are you so morally perverted as to be unable to identify it as such?


You are just a dogmatically confused moral pervert. I have never excused Israeli occupation, Israeli racism, Palestinians suicide attacks, Hezbollah's anti-semitic propaganda and lies. You view this as hypocrisy, it isn't, it is honesty.

You are the hypocrite, only able to criticize Jews, not Arabs. I wonder why that is?

You called me the racist, ha, look in the mirror.

681. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192472 by al-rawandi on June 13, 2008 at 6:08 am

Secularist,







I am sorry but I don't except every accusation about Judaism, although I find it particularly repellent due to the racial aspects.


As for Wahhabis hating Jews, this is not specific to Wahhabis, in fact bin Abd al-Wahhab himself doesn't really mention Jews in a critical sense. And only really mentions them in a historical sense as Bani Isra'il (Chilren of Israel). He probably never met a Jew in his entire life, and only maybe if you accept the widely discredited notion that he traveled to Damascus and Persia.


And you will have to be specific about what I reject about Islam that I accept about Judaism. If you are referring to my denial of the role of Wahhabism in the sub-Continent, it is because the actions PRE DATE the coming of the founder of Wahhabism. That is like saying that America was responsible for the Spanish Inquisition... it is non sense.


*EDIT*


I remember you now.... You are an apologist for Jewish racism.... When I mentioned Hatzollah The Jews only ambulance service you defended it vigorously. Much like white farmers defended slavery.

682. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192255 by al-rawandi on June 12, 2008 at 3:32 pm

History_Junky,





So we are clear, I am not apologizing for Muslim violence, I am just a pedant about that stuff.

I would say it is the same brand of narrow and evil thinking that caused the violence as is expounded by Bin Abd al-Wahhab.

683. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192253 by al-rawandi on June 12, 2008 at 3:30 pm

Fanusi,





I wouldn't call it a hell hole. I had a great time with friends, and for the most part you are left alone, it is surprisingly libertarian in some ways.

I was visiting there for a number of reasons, mostly academic. But like I said, in the privacy of spacious beach front homes on the Red Sea more fun has never been had!

684. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192240 by al-rawandi on June 12, 2008 at 3:18 pm

FF,






I am well aware of the French assistance provided to America. But I get sick of Europeans acting like Americans are accurately represented on "Jerry Spriner". And I notice the accuser, once called on his foolishness, has scurried off. He (alvorin) is also a socialist, of the "Cuba isn't a socialist country" variety.

685. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192233 by al-rawandi on June 12, 2008 at 3:14 pm

Fanusi,







Well Barelwi was initially allied with Amir Khan, but they split. Barelwi wrote a book called Sirat al-Mustaqim where he droned on and on about Tauhid, the ubiquitous Wahhabi topic, but he was an initiate of the Muhammadiyya and Chigishtiyya Sufi orders (and two more I cannot recall). Wahhbism is diametrically oposed to Sufism as they reject taqlid outright.

If you say Barelwi is a Wahhabi then that goes for Ahmad Tijan, who was also described as a Wahhabi, despite the fact that the Tijaniyya order still worships at tombs, a practice abhorred by Wahhabis.



*EDIT*


Regarding Barelwi, people (the ones who can't tell one Muslim from another) often assume that since Bin Abd al-Wahhab spoke at length about tauhid that anyone who does this is a "Wahhabi", but the problem is that Tauhid is a central theme in ALL forms of Islam, and is not even remotely specific to one.

686. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192227 by al-rawandi on June 12, 2008 at 3:07 pm

Fanusi,

Honestly, why don't they just import the Mutaween and be done with it? Then we could at least rise up with a clear conscience

I have actually been harrassed by Mutawa'in, not pleasant... thugs, nothing more.




Peace,


Yes the Russian kicked some serious ass, no doubt. And the British mounted the bravest defense of a homeland I could imagine. America would have been wise to enter the war sooner, but we were trying to mind our own business and figured the French army would actually fight back.... but realizing the Germans were not Algerian women and children, were helpless to stop them (Attack on their colonial efforts, don't get ruffled).

I am proud that Americans have had the courage to face down evil, even though we have done some pretty terrible things overseas, to largely innocent people.

687. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192225 by al-rawandi on June 12, 2008 at 3:02 pm

Fanusi,






Which Wahhabi uprisings?


Sayyid Ahmad Barelwi? Not even close, he was an initiate of FOUR Sufi orders, hardly a Wahhabi by traditional accounts.

688. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192223 by al-rawandi on June 12, 2008 at 2:59 pm

Fanusi,



Get it together grouch!

Why aren't the whole bloody mess of instructors kicked out of the country

What about US citizens, where do we expel them to?

689. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192221 by al-rawandi on June 12, 2008 at 2:58 pm

AutodaFe,







I have nothing in common with someone dumb enough to watch "The Biggest Loser" and assumes this is the real "America". It is "Clear Thinking Oasis", says it right there at the top, too bad we don't have a screening process.


That is like me taking Amy Winehouse and saying "look at those Brits".

All this after I had to put up with his confused and rambling defense of some vague "socialism". Blech....

690. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192206 by al-rawandi on June 12, 2008 at 2:45 pm

Peace,





I am not being crass, but honest.



America has been a friend to Europe and happy to stand up and have American soldiers die to maintain freedom in Europe... however imperfectly we did it. And then I get this ass clown making crass generalizations about the country that was the only reason he doesn't salute a Fuhrer right now. It is rather amusing, in a sad pathetic way.

Europe is a great place, America could learn a lot from Europe... but some of the people there have a memory of about 5 minutes and an ego the size of German Panzer division.


Thousands of Americans died at Normandy, Anzio, Arden, and numerous other places, defending their common allies in freedom. Now look what these people say, rather impressive, it takes an exceptional ignorance of history combined with an exceptional large ego.


And I am damn proud of my individualism, and I don't always subscribe to Falcon's "animated" rhetoric, but you will have to pry my individualism from my lifeless hand. And so I get real annoyed when some European rifle dropper launches into an arrogant rant.

691. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192198 by al-rawandi on June 12, 2008 at 2:35 pm

alvorin,







No no, you are right, all Americans are exactly like the ones on those shows.


Your insight into the matter is, once again, priceless.... And by priceless, I mean worth nothing.

Americans are far more indiviualistic than Europeans, Europeans tend to look down there nose at Americans, until some thug dictator over runs their country at which point they get very happy at the sight of American flags. Twice American fat lazy losers have come to Europe to trounce some evil ass holes. You're welcome.

692. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192178 by al-rawandi on June 12, 2008 at 2:19 pm

Peace,





People shouldn't weapons of mass destruction, they should be allowed to protect themselves in a reasonable way. The meaning of the amendment is seen when you look at the weapons available in the 18th century, they were personal weapons, muskets and rifles... what were used to fight the british. I feel like personal weapons should be permitted.

A nuclear weapon is useless to expel an intruder.

London probably has a well staffed police department, Oakland does not. And although I live in a good neighborhood, when people riot they may take the antics up town.

693. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192169 by al-rawandi on June 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm

Peace,






Anyone can own a gun, provided they pass a background check. Felons may not purchse, own, or possess a firearm. Most gun crimes are committed by people who are prohibited from owning a firearm.

I sleep with a shotgun next to my bed, precisely because I live in Oakland, and when there are riots (which may well happen) and the police are understaffed by 100 officers, I intend to not be looted and killed.

When you call 911 in Oakland, sometimes the police don't even show up. It is somewhat lawless, and I keep a gun close to protect myself and my property from wanton violence. I think this is legitimate and no one should stop me. And I have also thought about joining the police force to help stop some of this nonsense, since I complain about it so much. But being a police officer in Oakland is EXTREMELY dangerous.

694. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192159 by al-rawandi on June 12, 2008 at 1:51 pm

FF,





I usually make the diversity argument. Black gangs fighting with Mexican gangs is pretty common here in Oakland. Their neighborhoods often border one another.

695. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192151 by al-rawandi on June 12, 2008 at 1:48 pm

Peace,





Switzerland has one of the highest gun ownership rates in the world, little gun crime. Why is that?


To be honest the majority of violent crime occurs in African American communities. For instance African Americans are 13% of the population, while they make up 50% of the murderers in the US.

It is often drug related. In my city (Oakland) the are shootings every weekend. Mostly gangsters killing other gangsters. A DA told me they call those "two-fers", one thug is dead, the other goes to jail.

696. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192134 by al-rawandi on June 12, 2008 at 1:32 pm

heretic,



Oh no!

It's not a right we have ever needed in Europe and we're better off without it - just look at the amount of gun crime in the US vs Europe. I do like most of the other bits though.

Well it would have been nice to see Germans take to the street with arms to stop the Nazi rise to power, or its abuse of power.


The US has a lot of gun crime for a lot of reasons, reasons that don't always exist in Europe.


I will let FF handle the rest of this.




FF,




Holocaust denial laws are so ridiculous. Who cares if someone is stupid enough to deny the Holocaust, as long as they aren't attempting to incite another one, I don't really care.

697. Report: Troubling texts at Va. Islamic school

Comment #192111 by al-rawandi on June 12, 2008 at 1:10 pm

History_Junky,






You aren't much of a junkie.... the Mughal genocide was in the 1500's. Muhammad Ibn Abd al-Wahhab was born in 1701 in al-'Uyayna. He didn't start to outline his beliefs until the 1740's.


It would be quite impossible for his ideology to have been responsible.

698. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192093 by al-rawandi on June 12, 2008 at 12:44 pm

Colwyn,





It is no coincidence that Islam means "submission" and the word for "peace" (salam) comes from the same root. Peace is achieved when someone submits. The language is a key to understanding how people think.

699. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192076 by al-rawandi on June 12, 2008 at 12:27 pm

heretic,




What don't you like about the bill of rights?

The right to due process?

The right to not be forced to incriminate yourself?


Which one?

700. Unlike Others, U.S. Defends Freedom to Offend in Speech

Comment #192072 by al-rawandi on June 12, 2008 at 12:25 pm

Muslims have become increasingly litigious. Many of them are using our own revulsion against prejudice as a cover to spread their doctrines, unchecked.


They whine about discimination, yet continue to espouse hateful doctrine behind closed doors. It seems to me Muslims are happy to use the extensive rights in a free country to propagate Islam, only to turn and deny these very rights to others. It is the height of selfishness and hypocrisy.