651. Scientists Draw Link Between Morality And Brain's Wiring

Comment #43542 by Logicel on May 22, 2007 at 12:54 am

steveroot, In addition, Mind_Rebel has previously posted that he is working on improving his English. I would point out, in general, though the communication on this site is done in English, posters here are not always native users of English, as this site attracts an international group, and some of these posters are capable of communicating in several languages, while the 'snotty' native users of English probably are not.

652. Hitchens on Falwell, Part 2

Comment #43539 by Logicel on May 22, 2007 at 12:45 am

French drivers will sometimes encounter a road sign stating, Rappelle. A straightforward translation is simply, Remember. However, what it means to the French is: Just because you think you are driving's gift to the world and your car is wondrous, don't forget that you can kill yourself and others if you drive like an idiot and ignore road conditions.

That is how Hitchens used the word, Sir, which when uttered by him repeatedly when interrupted by these pathetic excuses of broadcast journalists, meant, If you continue to ignore my polite, but firm repetition of 'Sir', the world will think that you are impolite, and you would not want that, so even though you want to shut me up, you want even more for the world to think Christians are fair and polite.

Superb tactic on the part of Hitch.

653. Scientists Draw Link Between Morality And Brain's Wiring

Comment #43468 by Logicel on May 21, 2007 at 2:36 pm

Tsjok45, thanks for the link. Your work is very much needed.

654. Scientists Draw Link Between Morality And Brain's Wiring

Comment #43455 by Logicel on May 21, 2007 at 1:55 pm

third paragraph, preface, page 1, TGD:

I suspect--well, I am sure--that there are lots of people out there who have been brought up in some religion or other, are unhappy in it, don't believe it, or are worried about the evils that are done its name; people who feel vague yearnings to leave their parents' religion and wish they could, but just don't realize that leaving is an option. If you are one of them, this book is for you. It is intended to raise consciousness--raise consciousness to the fact that to be an atheist is a realistic aspiration, and a brave and splendid one. You can be an atheist who is happy, balanced, moral, and intellectually fulfilled. That is the first of my consciousness-raising messages. I also want to raise consciousness in three other ways, which I'll come on to.

655. Scientists Draw Link Between Morality And Brain's Wiring

Comment #43453 by Logicel on May 21, 2007 at 1:49 pm

TGD, preface, page one, pissinintothewind

656. Freethinking Ruins All Things

Comment #43440 by Logicel on May 21, 2007 at 12:35 pm

89. Comment #43434 by Hammer on May 21, 2007 at 11:39 am
It's hard not to notice that most of the posters here seem to be responding to Larison's criticisms as if he were attacking their most sacred dogmas. Apparently reacting violently when one's pride is wounded is a human trait and independent of any or no religious belief.
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Since the religious get violent when their pride is attacked, you are projecting that reaction onto atheists? Ah, the religious, they filter everything through their religious viewpoint--if they do it, then everybody must do it in some way or another.

Reacting violently? Has any poster here physically attacked Larison? How is breaking down the fallacies and sloppy thinking of Larison have anything to do with pride and dogma on the part of the posters here?

657. Catholic Church Reconsiders Limbo

Comment #43324 by Logicel on May 21, 2007 at 5:51 am

jonecc, newsbiscuit is now duly bookmarked in my humor/irony file.

The Onion gets a bit predictable after a while, though they usually have a good tidbit buried in one of their longer articles.

So far, I prefer newsbiscuit--the wit is like a vise that just manages to squeeze a tortured laugh out, similar to the pleasure when one finally gives in to a violent sneeze.

658. Cult leader sparks Sikh riots with 'guru' stunt

Comment #43313 by Logicel on May 21, 2007 at 5:19 am

"All religions are the same."
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Yes. I agree! All religions consist of beliefs based on no evidence whatsoever--however different the imaginary raiments may be in clothing the same naked emperor.

659. Christopher Hitchens Is a Treasure

Comment #43302 by Logicel on May 21, 2007 at 4:52 am

Put another way: Isn't it unlikely that random chance alone has arranged the world so that many human qualities — the very ones that Plato, Aristotle, the Stoics, and Jews and Christians find good on other grounds — should also work better for the survival of the human race?
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This sentence is pathetically twisted into illogical knots.

Natural selection is not random, but as someone else has pointed out on another thread, religites regard anything that is not divinely designed as being random. Religites refuse to accept that the purpose of life is to propagate genes, and that the selfish gene leads to the altruistic society (paraphrasing Dawkins). No divine designer--no matter how nebulous it is painted to be--is required.

660. Would the World Be Safer Without Religion?

Comment #43273 by Logicel on May 21, 2007 at 3:26 am

bitbutter wrote: Did i tread that right? Religious belief can lead to violence so the best thing to do it to believe even more strongly?

In what sense is the suicide bombing Jihadist not _already_ completely sincere in his religious belief?
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Moderates like this author regard that moderate belief is different in kind--and not in degree--than the type exhibited by rabid followers of religious superstitions. They fail to see that if you regard believing without evidence as virtuous, that then allows some to go full hog and become fanatics. Moderates blame the extreme followers, and not the moderates' own embracing that belief in belief is good.

In addition, moderates think that since they regard their belief as being different in kind, that it is unfair to lump them with extreme practitioners. But the unholy glue that is binding both groups together is the nonsense that believing in non-evidential beliefs are good.

661. Scientists Draw Link Between Morality And Brain's Wiring

Comment #43264 by Logicel on May 21, 2007 at 3:10 am

In particular, these people had injured an area that links emotion to cognition, located in the ventromedial prefrontal cortex several inches behind the brow. The experiment underscores the pivotal part played by unconscious empathy and emotion in guiding decisions. "When that influence is missing," said USC neuroscientist Antonio Damasio, "pure reason is set free."
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This study, along with past studies on brain-damaged people, is pointing to the complexity of morality, that is both emotional and rationally based. Just like some cling to either the nurture or nature side, some also cling to either the rational or emotional side in terms of morality. These studies show that such a cleaving is not possible in humans, unless it has been made possible by brain damage.

Luthien, as brain damage can affect the transmission of neurons, etc., it seems highly probable that unusual mental states, like mediation, praying, could pull off some interesting effects. Happily, neuroscientists are focused on these aspects, and we can look forward to some breakthrough discoveries on this front.

662. Would the World Be Safer Without Religion?

Comment #43258 by Logicel on May 21, 2007 at 2:57 am

Here is the link to the forum discussion regarding this test on the 5 bases of morality:

http://richarddawkins.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15021

663. Would the World Be Safer Without Religion?

Comment #43254 by Logicel on May 21, 2007 at 2:53 am

Men and women of all faiths must feel deeply chastened about the continuing violence in the name of religion. We ought to feel the very worst about violence, or hatred, perpetrated by those who say they believe what we believe. But this does not mean we should give up those beliefs. Rather, we must work to make belief sincere. Only then is there a chance the violence will stop.
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CJ recently posted a link to a site that tests your five bases of morality--one base being tradition. I tested very low on that one.

This author is saying that religious believers must not abandon the tradition of regarding believing in beliefs without evidence as being not only good in itself, but potentially EFFECTIVE in curtailing grievous human problems; tradition must be made to work even though he is quite honest in admitting that it does not work at present. Despite his honest recognition that religion does not do what it says to be done, he cannot embrace the possibility that this tradition needs to be replaced with a viewpoint that is rational and based on scientific knowledge. I would guess that this author would score high on the tradition base of morality.

664. Scientists Draw Link Between Morality And Brain's Wiring

Comment #43249 by Logicel on May 21, 2007 at 2:38 am

But if your prefrontal cortex has been impaired in the same small way by stroke or surgery, you would feel no such compunction in sacrificing one life for the good of all. The six patients certainly felt none. Any moral inhibition, whether learned or hereditary, had lost its influence.
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Are non-evidential religious beliefs equivalent to stroke and surgery? Allowing the religious believer to suspend the morality in which is used in dealing with the in-group, but then said morality can be scratched in dealing with the out-group?

Excellent article and study, and much more needs to be done in this regard.

665. A meeting of unlike minds

Comment #43242 by Logicel on May 21, 2007 at 2:22 am

English's main defense for his god is that humans are sinners?

On another recent thread, a poster at this site quoted something in the regard that it is not that humanity is not good enough for Christianity but that the Christian god is not good enough for humanity.

666. Christopher Hitchens Is a Treasure

Comment #43237 by Logicel on May 21, 2007 at 2:08 am

Still, even for believers Hitchens is useful. One can take the rake of his arguments to pull out dead grass in one's own sloppy thinking about God.
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Novak, be an angelic dear, and follow your own advice.

667. The Paradoxical Hatred of Christopher Hitchens

Comment #43086 by Logicel on May 20, 2007 at 1:47 pm

Here a bit of 'wisdom' from a female: whoever tries to pin Hitch to a dogmatic wall is a jerk. The guy is complex which is not an euphemism for shifty, evil conservative/liberal, delusional, or a fraud.

I am pro-choice as the next woman, but abortion sux for many reasons: health dangers, expense, idiotic substitute for birth control.

In the early 70's, when abortion was first made legal in America, I was only two out of 20 nursing students in my group that opted for clinical experience in the abortion clinic. You see a few deformed five-month-old fetuses lying between the bloodied legs of a young mother, after her having a saline solution upped her, you realize that abortion sux. Birth control is the way to go--it should be cheap and accessible. And the dumb Christians are actually furthering abortion because of their insane aversion to birth control and sex education.

Just in case some female armed with an internet laser or a machine gun, thinks that my complexity is an euphemism for anti-choice--think again, because I am PRO CHOICE.

668. Manufacturing belief

Comment #42985 by Logicel on May 20, 2007 at 8:17 am

newatheist, It is the recognition of our mortality that can also encourage embracing science, and not just religious superstitions. With scientific advances in sanitation, hygiene, and medical care, we can extend our precious lives. As many have pointed out in other threads, religion does not hold a candle to the real and effective changes to the quality and increasing the longevity of our lives.

Certainly, it does not make us immortal, but with the wonderful accomplishments done by science, it can behoove one to focus on it instead of religion, because religion does not do anything else but insist on faith to quell the doubts concerning its offer of immortality.

669. Goodness without Godliness

Comment #42929 by Logicel on May 20, 2007 at 5:50 am

bluebird, here are some online atheist dating services:

http://www.secularity.com/

http://www.secularsingles.com/

670. Goodness without Godliness

Comment #42905 by Logicel on May 20, 2007 at 4:57 am

Reg wrote, The power of lust oops! love.
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In other words, your pal is between a rock and a soft place.

Many here have questioned the accuracy of so called polls showing what percentage of atheists there are--your friend would most certainly put down the religion of his wife, and not the truth, that he is an atheist.

In the stock trading circles in which I move, I encounter many young, independently minded guys who work successfully at home trading the markets, and they wail frequently about though they love their 'cottage' business, they do not have the chance to meet young women. So they resort to on-line dating services, where they are often not even considered because they do not lie about their atheism. Some atheist should open up an online dating for atheists.

671. The Paradoxical Hatred of Christopher Hitchens

Comment #42891 by Logicel on May 20, 2007 at 4:23 am

micronut wrote, Maybe these people are just one step away from being sociopaths.
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If society is regarded as the entire group of humanity, yes, supporters of religious superstitions, with their emphasis on in groups/out groups are sociopaths, with the exception that in order to pull off this anti-socialism--to assuage their moral doubts--they hypocritically label themselves the opposite, as being caring and moral people. In other words, within their tiny world they are not sociopaths, but in regards to the rest of humanity, they are. They are truly disgusting.

672. Bible drawn into Hong Kong sex publication row

Comment #42763 by Logicel on May 19, 2007 at 12:08 pm

Bonsai wrote, Do you guys have any good suggestion for the biblical title of my upcoming porno flick? We can have a contest for that.
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Sadly, all I could come up with is:

Burning desire: bushwhacked in the Bible.

673. Freethinking Ruins All Things

Comment #42738 by Logicel on May 19, 2007 at 9:44 am

Prieten, Their reaction is a delight; you godless heathens did well double posting, esp. Luthien's. And the comments are still there, so apparently atheists are not a bunch of 'dogs' after all--some regular blog user there mentioned, "Who let the dogs out?". Poor dupe, maybe she/he does not realize that on the Net, articles get virally transmitted.

I browsed through some of the posts there, and what weirdness--incestuous Christianity in full decay--and boring to boot. The following excerpt from their posting guidelines is a clue to the homogeneity of the typical discussion:

The doctrines of orthodox Christianity shall not be scoffed at; while the doctrines of orthodox Liberalism will be abused and derided with impunity.

Pathetic and shameful--what other kind of behavior would be expected from a group that thinks aligning themselves to a crusade is moral and noble?

674. Jerry Falwell's Hit Parade

Comment #42670 by Logicel on May 19, 2007 at 2:53 am

oldskeptic wrote, When did faith come into whether the myths made sense, or not? My guess is it was when the old explanations started not to make sense. It is ironic that science probably was directly responsible for the invention faith.
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Since irony reigns supreme in human lives, your guess holds merit.

675. Manufacturing belief

Comment #42337 by Logicel on May 18, 2007 at 4:58 am

And that's what causal beliefs are really about. If we believe that something has a particular cause, we should be looking for the evidence.
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Sounds contradictory. Wolpert said that being hard-wired for detecting causality and soft-wired for supernatural causality is both most likely. This quote above is implying that because of this hard-wired causality humanity is compelled to look for evidence. So why is the soft-wired, supernatural goddidit stronger than the tool-making causality based on evidence?

Interesting interview, all the same. I am reluctant to label Wolpert as a religious apologist, because he sounds so weary and tired in accepting the reality that most people are religious so that the biological basis must be overwhelmingly strong and cannot ever be overturned. However, why is 10% of humanity able not to succumb to this biologically wired push, including Wolpert? Man was a rape machine at one time; yet, this machine is somewhat rusty due to societal rules and changing moral factors.

Reasons--that I have collected so far--which scientists give for the existence of supernatural beliefs are:

1) they are derived from our hard-wired bent for causality
2) they encourage social cohesion/benefits, therefore allowing survival and passing on genes.
3) they are connected to our beginnings when we were preyed on by predators, so we are always on guard for something that is not there.
4) credulity which allows children to be protected from harm by following parental instruction has backfired, allowing the embracing of supernatural superstitions.

676. Freethinking Ruins All Things

Comment #42325 by Logicel on May 18, 2007 at 4:16 am

From Wikipedia, In some parts of the world, the Narwhal is... referred to as a "reamfish."
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Hmmmmmm. A good one, Russell. I am cracking up!

677. Freethinking Ruins All Things

Comment #42320 by Logicel on May 18, 2007 at 4:08 am

infidel_michael, nice post.

678. Freethinking Ruins All Things

Comment #42311 by Logicel on May 18, 2007 at 4:00 am

Corylus wrote, Here's hoping some female theists read this and tell Mr Larison to (tries hard to think of a non-swearing four letter word... ah yes) SPIN.
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Suck Pins In Neverland?

679. Jerry Falwell's Hit Parade

Comment #42291 by Logicel on May 18, 2007 at 3:17 am

Rachel Holmes, nice posts.

Biz wrote, I must believe what is most reasonable. I cannot accept the scientifically and philosophically absurd notion that matter created itself or possesses aseity. I cannot accept that molecules can organize themselves into complex life that we are just beginning to understand. I cannot accept a world with no logical justification for belief in a transcendent moral code. My journey has thus led me to a belief in Christ. If you think I am ignorant and uneducated, or that I am not receiving a proper education at Liberty, then I invite you to come to the campus, sit in with me in all my classes, and have a nice discussion afterwards over Starbucks (I know, how cliché).
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I hope a nearby atheist will take you up on your invitation. In that way, an atheist could get to know you personally and your history/story.

Your I must believe, I cannot accept statements reek of a mentality begging the question, because you do not like what is more probable and less absurd than your beliefs. You need to believe, and you will twist rationality and logic so you can dubiously regard yourself rational while holding non-evidential beliefs simply because you do not like the alternative, you do not like the truth staring you in the face.

Though I can understand your difficulty in confronting what is true based on the best evidence we have to date, I do not respect your non-evidential belief system and your attempts to twist logic and rationality so you can feel better about reality. Humanity will never be able to advance if we are unable to accept, embrace, and work with reality based on evidence.

680. Jerry Falwell's Hit Parade

Comment #42281 by Logicel on May 18, 2007 at 2:51 am

Biz wrote, First, natural selection can't do jack but weed out genetic information. It is not a source of increased genetic variability, but rather of decreased and more highly specialized population genomes. Keep in mind however that common descent requires an increase in genetic information, yet we observe conservative tendencies in population gene pools, and never has any scientist observed an information-adding beneficial mutation.
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This sounds bogus to me. Hopefully, someone can identify why. Billy Sands, where are you?

681. Jerry Falwell's Hit Parade

Comment #42279 by Logicel on May 18, 2007 at 2:43 am

And Biz is correct, Liberty University is an academically credited school, but it is a school whose academic reputation is not stellar and shares a position way down on the academic totem pole with many other American universities, secular or religious, despite their accreditation. American Universities are certainly not all created equal even though they may be accredited.

Here is quote from this article: http://teenink.com/Past/2006/September/20451.html

The university is proud of the Liberty Difference: all its professors "integrate a Christian world view into every subject area. This biblical foundation is the cornerstone upon which we build academic excellence. Our faculty ... joins Liberty only after completing a rigorous interview process that confirms a born-again relationship with Christ."

Biz, your 'quality' education is far from it--it is riddled, subjected to, diluted with, a bunch of irrational absurdities. Every single subject taught at Liberty is drenched in a single viewpoint, that of a particular religious mindset, i.e. Christianity. Everything, and I mean everything, is suffused with Christianity. Your mind is hobbled with this burden, this burden of a belief system without evidence.

682. Jerry Falwell's Hit Parade

Comment #42275 by Logicel on May 18, 2007 at 2:33 am

Unfortunately, I cannot find again an article written for The Review.com (a local Ohio newspaper) which described how Falwell expanded and made a tired and former industrial Lynchburg into a prosperous town.

After reading that description of the positive economic impact upon Lynchburg set into motion by Falwell, I realized that for the inhabitants of that town, deeply criticizing Falwell--grasping that his negatives grossly outweighed the positives in his actions and life--would be akin to biting the hand that feeds them.

683. Jerry Falwell's Hit Parade

Comment #42263 by Logicel on May 18, 2007 at 2:12 am

As far as I can research, Falwell was not caught either stealing or committing adultery. I am hazarding a guess that some are confusing Falwell with Jim Bakker. Bakker encouraged Falwell to take over the PTL (Praise the Lord TV ministry) when Bakker's adultery was revealed.

684. Jerry Falwell's Hit Parade

Comment #42134 by Logicel on May 17, 2007 at 5:11 pm

Biz wrote, Now, if you perceive that someone has made inappropriate comments,...
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IT WAS FALWELL'S ACTIONS that set back America, it was not just a bunch of harmless comments. And America is reaping the damage that Falwell sowed and is sowing beyond the grave via you, stagnating in that travesty of an university, wasting your beautiful, young mind. It makes me weep!

685. Jerry Falwell's Hit Parade

Comment #42133 by Logicel on May 17, 2007 at 5:06 pm

Biz wrote, If this is the face of atheism, then God forbid it ever becomes the dominant religion in America.
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Yet another example of your confusion. Are you taught at that useless university of yours, that atheism is a RELIGION? It is nothing except an absence of belief in a personal god.

686. Jerry Falwell's Hit Parade

Comment #42129 by Logicel on May 17, 2007 at 5:00 pm

Biz wrote, People said what was on their minds, and there was nothing wrong with that. Doc was still used to that culture,...
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No, what was wrong was that they believed in racism, sexism, and homophobia--whether or not they voiced it or not is not the issue. Your implication is if Falwell kept his racist mouth shut, then his racism would have been OK.

You are a very confused young man, and it so sad to see such a young man, with apparent intelligence and a gentle way, with his wonderful life ahead of him, wasting his time at that joke of an university which you attend.

687. Jerry Falwell's Hit Parade

Comment #42123 by Logicel on May 17, 2007 at 4:53 pm

Biz, Your going to Falwell's school and not having A CHANCE IN HELL to get a decent education is one, just one reason, why Falwell is not dead, his despicable legacy lives on, and your attendance at his pathetic university is proof of it.

688. Television evangelist Falwell dies at 73

Comment #41827 by Logicel on May 17, 2007 at 6:34 am

230. Comment #41646 by The Spaghetti Monster/
Wasting their lives…….? Oh I get it, because they (people who believe in a God, or creative life force…. or whatever) choose to live a different life; their life is a waste….. and that makes you sad.

Well we can hope…….. we can hope that one day, mankind will evolve to act in accordance to your will. Unfortunately for you, I don't think that will happen anytime soon……. That makes me happy. You see, I'm happy…… you're sad.

I do have a question for the brighty brights……. You see, life is a force that is constantly consuming; using what it needs and excreting what it doesn't need. So it should follow that mankind is really just a bunch of shit…….. right?

Indeed….. a little perspective is all you need. You're all just the excrement of life, tinkering away on your goofy little computers, espousing your half baked idealism while commenting on the death of one of your own……. As if your belief system is somehow "magically" superior to that of the indigenous folks who lived under a bush and worshiped the dirt.

I do know this….. what happened to the Rev will happen to you too. The only difference is that the "blogisphere" will be deafeningly silent when it's your turn.
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SpaghettiO's insane--and incorrect--use of ellipsis is worth noting. O Spathetic One, here's a handy mnemonic trick, THREE ellipsis, like the THREE-in-one Christian God.

Per this definition excerpted from Wikipedia, as an ellipsis is sometimes used to indicate a pause in speech, an unfinished thought or, at the end of a sentence, a trailing off into silence (aposiopesis), I can only think from such constant and consistent use of ellipsis, that SpahettiO's is exercising on a goofy stationary bike while commenting via his goofy computer, and as the blood is rushing from the frontal lobes into the neutered one's motor cortex, poof, any thinking is stopped in its tracks, thusly the neutered one is incapable of finishing a thought. However, and very sadly, the use of ellipsis does not result the neutered one into trailing off into silence.

I think the neutered one LOVES us atheists, in all our dastardly brighty brightness.

689. Ted Haggard Is Completely Heterosexual

Comment #41817 by Logicel on May 17, 2007 at 6:10 am

Russell Blackford, Thanks, a nice one. My husband, almost 20 years ago, courted me while we were separated by thousands of miles of religious wasteland--he was on the West Coast, while I was on the East Coast of America--with limericks which of course he named Lovericks. So, I am a bit impartial to that poetic vehicle even though I can't compose one to save my little atheistic butt. However, I have been known to do a mean Haiku from time to time.

690. Hitchens' flat world

Comment #41812 by Logicel on May 17, 2007 at 5:45 am

drbreakfast wrote: Why, oh why, can they not get just a little more creative?
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Because their god has the monopoly on creativity?

691. Thought vs. feeling in religion

Comment #41591 by Logicel on May 16, 2007 at 11:20 am

When it comes to emotional religion, the cerebral Benedict is the skeptic-in-chief, with a long history of warnings against the flight from rationality.
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Interesting article in the sense that it does pinpoint the kind of religious appeal which could affect political change for the positive.

However, The Pope and Liberation Theology are both based in irrationality, regardless of the degree of emotion which is encouraged. The Pope is a cold, irrational believer of superstitions, while the Liberation Theology followers are emotional believers in irrationality.

What is seldom stressed is that one can be emotional and rational at the same time, one does not preclude the other. Studies have pointed to the fact that without emotions, rational people could not function.

692. The stone is cast

Comment #41455 by Logicel on May 16, 2007 at 6:25 am

jonecc, I get URL not found when clicking on your link.

693. Hitchens' flat world

Comment #41411 by Logicel on May 16, 2007 at 5:08 am

God has no place in the world Hitchens wants, but nobody else has ever lived there either.
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Atheists are pegged as being 10% of the world's population (I think). Therefore that percentage of the world does live without a god. These guys make silly arguments. Consistently.

694. Educated, Inspired Conservative Christians

Comment #41408 by Logicel on May 16, 2007 at 5:02 am

...he loved people.
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These Christians are an odd bunch to regard Falwell stance towards people as loving. What a cherry-picked load of tripe this author has penned. What do you expect from a lot of ninnies that regard their tyrannical and terrifying god as loving?

695. The stone is cast

Comment #41403 by Logicel on May 16, 2007 at 4:56 am

Excellent--an astute and fair review of the impact and meaning of Falwell's misused life.

696. Television evangelist Falwell dies at 73

Comment #41183 by Logicel on May 15, 2007 at 3:29 pm

80. Comment #41180 by Yaweh on May 15, 2007 at 3:24 pm
Thus sayeth me:

Schadenfreude causes acne.

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I always thought it caused impetigo.

697. Television evangelist Falwell dies at 73

Comment #41179 by Logicel on May 15, 2007 at 3:23 pm

I am a Christian.
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Wow! What a surprise. He sure had millions fooled.

698. Television evangelist Falwell dies at 73

Comment #41177 by Logicel on May 15, 2007 at 3:20 pm

I do not believe we can blame genetics for adultery, homosexuality, dishonesty and other character flaws.
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As the Church Lady would say, "How convenient!" If we did, Falwell would have been out of a job.

699. Television evangelist Falwell dies at 73

Comment #41174 by Logicel on May 15, 2007 at 3:15 pm

I take the Bible as the standard.
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Not the American constitution?

700. Television evangelist Falwell dies at 73

Comment #41171 by Logicel on May 15, 2007 at 3:11 pm

I truly cannot imagine men with men, women with women, doing what they were not physically created to do, without abnormal stress and misbehavior.
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Why did he think he had to imagine sexual behavior in which he is not interested? Hmmmmmm.