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Comment #199626 by clodhopper on June 26, 2008 at 5:04 am
"There is no doubt that when you eat a Bible Bar, you are getting nutrition as God intended"
...wheras the rest of starving humanity (ethiopia etc) are not getting much, if any, nutrition at all, as god no doubt intended.
52. God hates Mars
Comment #199619 by clodhopper on June 26, 2008 at 4:38 am
Oh Well, if we're scraping the barrel.
"The Milky Bar kid is tough and strong...
The Milky Bar kid just can't go wrong"
53. God hates Mars
Comment #199604 by clodhopper on June 26, 2008 at 4:08 am
But you gotta admire this Atum chappie....
"As creator he was seen as the underlying substance of the world"
"he was considered to be the first god, having created himself"
no logical problems there then.
54. God hates Mars
Comment #199602 by clodhopper on June 26, 2008 at 4:04 am
Atum must have a very bendy neck then.....
.....'speaking' the world into existence is just so much more civilised. Gud Ol Yaweh eh?
55. God hates Mars
Comment #199558 by clodhopper on June 26, 2008 at 1:35 am
Morning All. Praise The Lard.
Comment #199544 by epeeist
Did somebody mention chocolate?
56. God hates Mars
Comment #199537 by clodhopper on June 25, 2008 at 11:48 pm
A Crunchie bar is not really about the chocolate....but it's still great IMO
Comment #199338 by clodhopper on June 25, 2008 at 2:38 pm
Oh...he's (RM) just basking in Davianity right now. When the strokes stop coming it'll be on to the next thing.
'til then expect sniping.
58. Fleabytes
Comment #199046 by clodhopper on June 25, 2008 at 5:51 am
Now e's avin a larf an e bein condersending 2. ow e kno us dusurv ow suma olids? E dant no this, e no ave t'nolidge. Onli Dave. E ave nolidge, no one els ave it. E is blessd wi Davianity an is way is lit by ful beem. E wil tek us an drop us off. them as is by wayside e will pikkup agin. one day we will alus see thru the screen a is majersty an will join Dave in is cab an luk wi is blessin thru the screen an see wa is twu. Is onli way to escape fom de seeseeteevee men innit?
It bst 2 ignor RM convershun. It meen nowt. It jus scrapeep chalenj goin on in is ed.
59. PZ Myers - Science and Atheism in the Blogosphere
Comment #199022 by clodhopper on June 25, 2008 at 4:49 am
Comment #197300 by AtheistJon
It's not knowledge that is vital when going against a preacher, rather, you have to keep in mind about preachers that they and their ilk (eg. the kind you can read about in Christopher Hitchen's short book on Mother Theresa, The Missionary Position) are professional con men. They live on the money that they sucker out of their faithful flock. Con men aren't really idiots... they know all the tactics of professional car salesman and use them ruthlessly against debaters even as good as Hitchens and Dawkins. For us atheists, it is all transparent BS.
60. Should We Rid The Mind of God? A Debate
Comment #198457 by clodhopper on June 24, 2008 at 2:45 am
clatz: You're right....just me being slow....but in that case he could've been a bit more generous and said millions of years.
As I was watching I noticed in the list of related videos is 'Voodoo Child - Jimi Hendrix live at Woodstock' - Now that is tempting!
Peter Atkins:
"eating your grandmother might be a good thing to do"
61. Should We Rid The Mind of God? A Debate
Comment #198448 by clodhopper on June 24, 2008 at 1:44 am
McGrath:
When I was young I used to be an amateur astronomer and I used to look at the night sky and I knew just enough astronomy to know that the light from some of those stars wouldn't hit earth for hundreds of years
62. White Patches Found in Mars Trench Are Ice, Scientists Say
Comment #197992 by clodhopper on June 23, 2008 at 3:14 am
some white patches that were seen earlier in the week have shrunk, and eight small chunks have disappeared
Comment #197983 by clodhopper on June 23, 2008 at 3:02 am
Clearthinker:
what do I know?
64. Oystein Elgaroy - the Christian defender who became an Atheist
Comment #195905 by clodhopper on June 19, 2008 at 2:48 am
In the relationship between David Robertson and God, there is only one important person.
David certainly knows which it is.
65. Oystein Elgaroy - the Christian defender who became an Atheist
Comment #195505 by clodhopper on June 18, 2008 at 11:10 am
If humans have created God and religions, and not the other way round, then it explains most of the paradoxes that Christians are struggling with today. As an example, it's not a problem that evil exists if everything around us is a result from natural processes that don't separate between good and evil.
66. Oystein Elgaroy - the Christian defender who became an Atheist
Comment #195499 by clodhopper on June 18, 2008 at 10:58 am
Oystein:
A belated welcome from me too. I do hope you will stick around on RD.net. There are some really wonderfully conversations that go on here despite all the gibberish from the likes of clearthinker and others of that ilk.
best
clod
67. Oystein Elgaroy - the Christian defender who became an Atheist
Comment #195497 by clodhopper on June 18, 2008 at 10:54 am
Clearthinker:
Must I really list all the posts that you promised not to post when you posted that you were going away? You really have lying off to a fine art.
68. Rapture site sends unbelievers their last chance ... via email
Comment #194925 by clodhopper on June 17, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Youvebeenleftbehind.com
Dear Richard
Ner ner ne ner ner!
Raptureously yours
David Robertson
FCOS
Think before you print this e-mail. Do you really need to?
69. Vatican bans Dan Brown film Angels & Demons from Rome churches
Comment #194106 by clodhopper on June 16, 2008 at 12:28 pm
Wall to wall bollocks from both Dan Brown and the Ratzis.
70. Scientists rally against creationist 'superstition'
Comment #187963 by clodhopper on June 3, 2008 at 4:54 am
Clearthinker: Can't keep away can you? Knew you couldn't. Best if you just go get 'RUN' tattoed on your forhead as soon as possible.
71. Fleabytes
Comment #187728 by clodhopper on June 2, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Comment #173044 by Richard Morgan
For my friends on RDNet, especially S.Z, P.K. and B.E.
And for those whose knowledge and wisdom have taught me so much, especially, S.Z., MPhil and Dr Benway.
And for those, who, behind intellectual brilliance hide a profound emotional anguish, especially.....
72. Character Attacks: How to Properly Apply the Ad Hominem
Comment #187701 by clodhopper on June 2, 2008 at 1:15 pm
I just called myself a right twat.....in the circumstances, seems like fair comment.
73. Losing Our Spines to Save Our Necks
Comment #175374 by clodhopper on May 5, 2008 at 10:24 am
The lesson we should draw from the Fitna controversy is that we need more criticism of Islam, not less. Let it come down in such torrents that not even the most deluded Islamist could conceive of containing it.
74. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166996 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 2:30 pm
...about those questions
There's
50/50
Phone a Friend
Ask the Audience
Make it all Up
take your pick.
75. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166988 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 2:27 pm
ID: You are hilarious aren't you aren't you. stste flbgy gheib bnfli
now then, about epeeists questions?
76. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166970 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 2:17 pm
We must all remember that TTID's stated aim here is to educate us. He is doing fine because we have all learned....we have all learned....er....we have all...er
Wait a sec, what have we learned?
77. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166918 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 1:41 pm
ID: Try one.
Is the principle of the seperation of church and state:
a) Extremely Important
b) Quite Important
c) Not Very Important
d) Of No Importance
78. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166908 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 1:37 pm
ID: Would it make it easier for you if we asked multiple choice questions?
79. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166906 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 1:36 pm
"Our luquacity is almost ineffecient when viewed next to Diacanu's terse and trenchant responses"
Indeed. And his generosity is exceeded only by his personal beauty and charm.
80. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166899 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Anyone?
Nope. Your turn.
81. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166880 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 1:24 pm
Fortunately ID, every day, thousands of ID'ers are coming to realise that they've been sold a pack of lies, duped, used, exploited. Soon there will be very few of them left except maybe you.
82. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166867 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 1:16 pm
ID: Would you prefer your cancer to be diagnosed by a doctor with a set of rhunes or a doctor with a CT scanner?
What are your beliefs? Getting tired of asking. It's not a difficult question is it?
83. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166859 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Quine: The irony is that dumski is proving for us that ID can never be science. Nice of him don't you think?
84. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166842 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 1:00 pm
ID: What spiritual beliefs?
85. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166822 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 12:49 pm
ID: "My spiritual beliefs have nothing to do with scientific fact."
Well stop pussyfootling around and spell out what your beliefs are. Too scared to do that?
86. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166810 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Ah but dumsky thinks that asking for proof of ID is also a category error.....
"But what about the predictive power of intelligent design? To require prediction fundamentally misconstrues design. To require prediction of design is to put design in the same boat as natural laws, locating their explanatory power in an extrapolation from past experience. This is to commit a category mistake. To be sure, designers, like natural laws, can behave predictably (designers often institute policies that end up being rigidly obeyed). Yet unlike natural laws, which are universal and uniform, designers are also innovators. Innovation, the emergence to true novelty, eschews predictability. Designers are inventors. We cannot predict what an inventor would do short of becoming that inventor. Intelligent design offers a radically different problematic for science than a mechanistic science wedded solely to undirected natural causes. Yes, intelligent design concedes predictability. But this represents no concession to Darwinism, for which the minimal predictive power that it has can readily be assimilated to a design-theoretic framework."
we stuffed then?
87. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166784 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 12:30 pm
Greybishop: "Aside from being way, way off topic, it's been entertaining."
Off Topic. This? Try the Fleabytes thread, it's so far off it's on.
88. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166779 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 12:27 pm
epee: "nobody seems to be pressing them particularly hard"
no fair man. If I exert any more newtons I'll die!
89. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166768 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 12:21 pm
ID: "You can't even explain how life originated in the first place."
Working on it.
Please give me an answer to the above.
edit: as it's no longer above here it is again:
Your earlier statement implied a universal source of morality. How are the moral imperatives required by this revealed to us. I want the mechanism.
90. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166764 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 12:18 pm
ID: OK here is another one maybe you will condescend to look at. Honestly, getting blood out of a stone is much easier!
Your earlier statement implied a universal source of morality. How are the moral imperatives required by this revealed to us. I want the mechanism.
91. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166753 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 12:09 pm
ID "but you know deep down what causes you to respond in this way."
Yes, it's utterly simple, you won't answer our very reasonable questions.
Start with Diacanu's if you want. That was a simple one.
92. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166737 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 12:01 pm
ID: "Are not all standards of morality based on some universal belief."
No.
C'mon man, your inadequacy is showing! Have the courage of your convictions and stand up for the designer you believe in. Above all, answer the questions and stop hiding and dithering about!
93. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166686 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 11:32 am
There are serious child protection concerns related to unfounded belief. If you truly are interested in protecting children you would be well advised to examine the horrific abuse, both physical and mental, meted out to children over the centuries and now, in the name of some designer or other.
I'll ask again. Does your designer have a name?
94. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166657 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 11:18 am
ID "I'm trying to help and educate you."
If that's what you are doing, why will you not engage with epeeist's questions? They are basic to this discussion. A serious attempt by you to answer them would therefore enlighten us further.
95. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166648 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 11:14 am
ID: "No accountability. Why not? We are here by chance with no pupose."
Well, to whom are we then accountable?
96. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166636 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 11:00 am
ID: In your opinion, has humanity now correctly identified and named the designer?
97. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166622 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 10:49 am
ID: You seem to be stuck with the assumption that there are some parts of the human body that should not be used.
98. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166600 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 10:30 am
ID: More prevarication. What is it you don't understand about the request to answer the questions you've been posed by epeeist?
99. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166591 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 10:20 am
ID: I would also like to know if the Higgs Boson is unislamic?
100. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda
Comment #166585 by clodhopper on April 23, 2008 at 10:16 am
ID: Mind boggling irrelevancy. Please answer the questions above.