51. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251521 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 2:40 pm

Don't know a thing about black metal, but nothing moves my soul like Beethoven's 9th.

52. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251517 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 2:37 pm

Sargeist
Have you ever read Watchmen?
Probably not as powerful nowadays, but in the eighties it legitimized the industry.
Really fantastic.

53. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251510 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 2:31 pm

Enlightenment
I say kill it.
It has survived this long by draining your soul.
These demons are sneaky.

PS
What the hell is a readymeal?

54. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251507 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 2:29 pm

Sargeist
The sandman stuff was pretty great back in the day.
I'm afraid I haven't really kept up with anything over the last 15 or so years, which is odd because I'm doing comic illustration right now.
I should probably know a little about what's happening in the industry.

55. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251499 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 2:23 pm

Lucas
If you're going to try to get Sargeist into comics you should probably start with something along a different path.
I did some illustration work for the "Jesus Hates Zombies" anthology. SHAMELESS PLUG!!

56. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251488 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 2:09 pm

Sargeist
I can tell you from my front row seat that there is more to it than that. The drug trade itself, in my neighborhood, is just another biproduct of the failings of the community.
The legalisation point may have some merit, but there is work to do yet in other areas.

57. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251485 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 2:05 pm

Decius
I understand, and I'm sure you'd have some very good points to make on the subject.
I would probably agree with most of them.
I'm just kinda not in the mood y'know.

58. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251478 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 1:56 pm

Decius
You don't think toxicomania is the only thing that is bad about drugs do you.
I'm sorry, but I live in a drug infested area and another child was killed the other day.
Can we not talk about this right now?

59. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251467 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 1:40 pm

Yeah Decius
That list is much longer than the list of people who do bad things on drugs.

Sorry, the joke was too obvious to pass up.

60. Interstellar Space Molecules That Help Form Basic Life Structures Identified

Comment #251427 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 12:57 pm

Squeeeeeeeee!
I don't know why I'm doing that.
Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Hey, my squeeeeeeeeee is bigger than yours.

61. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251395 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 12:28 pm

Vinelectric
A reformating is not needed. The point is that the republican party has been rolling in this direction for 30 years. This is just a matter of jumping from 3rd gear to 4th.

62. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251387 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 12:17 pm

Steve Zara
#251381
Well done sir.
Fanusi is actually the type that I would enjoy hanging out with because I quite enjoy an arguement, but in my opinion you have hit the nail on the head here.

63. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251378 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 12:12 pm

Sargeist
I'm still liking you just fine, and that has even survived the jealousy I felt upon finding out you had a smart asian girlfriend.

64. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251350 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 11:43 am

Goatboy
I understand now what Fanusi believes to be true, my problem is that it does't seem to show much rational thought. I think his opinions have a little more depth than you suggest though.
Let me make one thing perfectly clear, I most certainly have it in me.
Hell, a couple shots and a few beers and I'll do it myself. I am not the stereotypical left, and there are a lot more of me than you cats could believe.
I have heard Obama talk tough on several issues that not only are important to me, but also tend to be the points that the liberal left fight me on.
I have heard McCain talk tough on everything, which shows a very shallow thought process.
The choice for me was more than obvious.

65. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251317 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 11:01 am

Fanusi
I can certainly agree with the compatibility comment, but still not convinced it's the only way.
Don't get me wrong, I'm no far left anti-war violence is never the answer hippy.
I think the only thing wrong with the death penalty is that we don't use it enough, and fully believe that war has to be an option. I just don't want to jump straight in y'know.
I'd like to find out exactly what they're after. If it's just the death of the infidels then so be it. Nailem.

66. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251300 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 10:49 am

Fanusi
I'm wondering what it is you'd propose that we do.
Just to be clear, i in no way, feel as you do about sitting down to talk to them. I'm just curious what you think the next logical step should be.

67. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251286 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 10:38 am

Fanusi
So you think that talking to them automatically means letting them have weapons, and the only alternative is carpetbombing?
Excuse me if it seems as though I'm almost taking an illogical leap the size of yours.

68. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251283 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 10:33 am

vanwall
interesting...
You didn't come to you're atheism through rational thought did you?

69. Art teacher made student pray to Jesus for forgiveness

Comment #251276 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 10:27 am

Sargeist
In fact, it's a devil on a cross. I would say that it could be seen as a religious symbol in a way, but wearing religious symbols is not a problem. I would say that there is a good chance that several of the other students in the class were wearing crosses or stars of david.
It is not permitted for the school officials to show favor to any religion, let alone force a certain religion on a student.

70. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251270 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 10:20 am

Fanusi
Who said that it was a negligable matter, and what information do you have on "these damn talks that Obama wants to have" that worry you so much?

71. Art teacher made student pray to Jesus for forgiveness

Comment #251264 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 10:08 am

Nalfeshnee
We certainly have the grey matter to pay attention to more than one event.

72. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251263 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 10:06 am

Sargeist
Hell yes!!!
You're fitting in nicely.

73. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251258 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 9:58 am

Paine
McCain knows exactly where Pakistan is.
Over there.
With us or agin' us can also be used in geographical location. Over here, over there.

74. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251249 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 9:34 am

Fanusi you're right.
Obama can't wait for Iran to have nucular weapons.
He may even go in and hand them some himself.
It's because he's a moslim y'know.
They hate god and america.

75. Art teacher made student pray to Jesus for forgiveness

Comment #251241 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 9:06 am

Pilot22a
Having trouble telling if you're joking here.
You are joking right?

76. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251238 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 9:01 am

Milton
Are you one of them dirty forners?
No true American would try to bring "facts" up in an election year.

77. Art teacher made student pray to Jesus for forgiveness

Comment #251236 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 8:58 am

Mitchell
Good morning.
I understand that "dragging" and "forced" could be exagerations, but fail to see how taking them at face value requires a strange interpretation.
Those are the words in the article, those are the words we're reacting to, you are the one interpreting them differently.
I hope you're right and there was nothing physical about it, but feel she should be fired regardless.

78. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251231 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 8:37 am

Sargeist
Don't take it personally, you know this site is full of those filthy elitists.
Seriously though, I am regularly missunderstood in forums because I am more likely to make a joke than a point. It's part of my charm you see.
I occasionally let it get to me too.
Oh, here you go...
****hug****

79. When Atheists Attack

Comment #251227 by ggab7768 on September 21, 2008 at 8:20 am

Still trying to catch up on this conversation, but I wanted to jump in with this.

Sargeist
I think I understand your posts just fine, and I like you just fine too.
You can have a hug if you like.
We'll talk about the crime and punishment thing sometime. Not really in the mood right now. I just woke up and need to start my day on a positive note.

80. Art teacher made student pray to Jesus for forgiveness

Comment #250955 by ggab7768 on September 20, 2008 at 10:28 pm

Ksskidude
Got to disagree with you too I'm afraid.
Evangelicals already travel in packs like good predators. They are already united behind the idea of forcing religion on children.
If there is any place that we should draw a line in the sand, it's our schools. I think that this would be offensive to more than just the athiests and should get some attention.

81. Art teacher made student pray to Jesus for forgiveness

Comment #250952 by ggab7768 on September 20, 2008 at 10:03 pm

Mitchell
I get your point, but the article is only about praying if you stop reading after the headline.
The article clearly states everything else we are talking about.
It is true that the prayer would be a soft spot for most of us here, but the "forced" prayer makes that a pretty serious problem. The "forced" prayer to "Jesus" takes it to an even deeper level.
There is an awful lot of bad in this single event, and I'm not sure how many of these insults would not have to have happened to drop the penalty to the level you feel is apropriate.
You are certainly free to disagree with me, and perhaps her superiors will too, but I think this was a terrible event for the student and the school. I would not want a woman like this "teaching" my children.

82. Art teacher made student pray to Jesus for forgiveness

Comment #250938 by ggab7768 on September 20, 2008 at 8:52 pm

Mitchell
What exactly are you saying I'm using a smoke screen for, and what is the smoke screen?

She demeaned him in front of his peers.
That's bad
It says she "dragged" him out of the classroom.
That's bad.
She used her authority to force him to perform HER religious ritual.
That's bad.

I don't smokescreen shit, and am not known for my subtlety.
What exactly is the point you think you're making.

83. Look Who's Irrational Now

Comment #250933 by ggab7768 on September 20, 2008 at 8:42 pm

If you cats want to see something hillarious, you gotta check this out.
Go to RaptureReady.com and just let your eyes drift down to the recent articles. There is a headline there you have to see.
Allright I can't wait, I'll tell you.
If any of you aren't familiar with this site, it is absolutely frightening in a brimming with fundies way.
Right now there is an article on the first page that is titled...
"People who are in a cult never think they are in one."

I shit you not.
See for yourself.

84. Art teacher made student pray to Jesus for forgiveness

Comment #250923 by ggab7768 on September 20, 2008 at 8:17 pm

inquisitor
I like the way you think.

85. Art teacher made student pray to Jesus for forgiveness

Comment #250915 by ggab7768 on September 20, 2008 at 8:07 pm

Border Collie
I would have to respectfully disagree.
If she insulted him in front of his peers for just appearing to have different beliefs than her, and presumably most of them, and forced him to be submissive before her asking jesus for forgiveness... pal, what doesn't make you sick about that.
Even if he doesn't have different beliefs, that is the way he will be viewed by the other children. Children aren't known for their kindness toward outsiders.
Do you really think that's ok.
Sure, I had worse in Kentucky in the 70's, that isn't remotely the point.

86. Art teacher made student pray to Jesus for forgiveness

Comment #250841 by ggab7768 on September 20, 2008 at 3:23 pm

Are you commenting about my dancing monkey?
Yeah, my monkey dances. What of it?
You're just jealous.

87. Art teacher made student pray to Jesus for forgiveness

Comment #250839 by ggab7768 on September 20, 2008 at 3:17 pm

GET'EM RIGGS!!!
None of us should ever sit on our hands in a situation like this.
And an art teacher!! That really hurts.

88. Look Who's Irrational Now

Comment #250821 by ggab7768 on September 20, 2008 at 2:04 pm

Bill Maher!!
Looked around and found a few blogs talking about his crazy attitude toward medicine, but when I tracked down actual quotes and videos from him, they were far more tame.
A lot of "Don't take all these drugs just because the pharm. companies tell you to." mixed with a lot of "Try eating right and exercising for once."
Haven't found anything loonier than that.
Skip the headlines and get into the meat of his beliefs and they seem pretty straight to me.
Anybody find anything crazy or is that part of the article as honest as the rest?

89. Look Who's Irrational Now

Comment #250796 by ggab7768 on September 20, 2008 at 11:03 am

PaulJ
After reading the article and questionnaire, I get the distinct impression that they are both designed to push an agenda.
I believe the questions were designed to get exactly this sort of result so that they could be used to develop this sort of propaganda.
Don't get worked up about it without checking out the source. It becomes pretty obvious as you scroll through the questions.
Many athiests attend church for special events or community activities (our community council always meets in a church).
If you Eat dinner with someone who says grace, that counts as praying in this questionaire.
If you have researched a subject, it means you have a belief in the validity of it? I spent days online looking for a good copy of a classic bigfoot picture because I thought ,with the recent claims, it would be funny to hang that photo in my business as "Employee of the month."
Does that mean I believe in bigfoot? Of course not.
Ignore this silly propaganda.

90. Look Who's Irrational Now

Comment #250782 by ggab7768 on September 20, 2008 at 10:38 am

Quiddam
Thanks for the link
Have a look at it guys and dolls.
It explains a lot.

91. Palin: average isn't good enough

Comment #250686 by ggab7768 on September 20, 2008 at 6:24 am

Fanusi
"If you can find one instance of a US marine deliberately killing a child, I'll eat my hat."

Does it have to be a Marine?
If you're not already eating the hat, I think I can help you.
If you are, perhaps you have another hat nearby?
If the story also involved a premeditated gang rape and the murder of her entire family will you eat a really large hat? Possibly a jesters hat?
How about a magicians top hat?
You can pull the rabbit out of it before hand, just like you pull so many things out of your anus.

92. Look Who's Irrational Now

Comment #250521 by ggab7768 on September 19, 2008 at 8:12 pm

Look, I answered the questionaire from baylor that way as a joke.
I remember Bigfoot was reading over my shoulder and said "You're not actually sending that in are you?" and I said "Yeah, trust me, it'll be funny."

93. The real difference between liberals and conservatives

Comment #250428 by ggab7768 on September 19, 2008 at 4:27 pm

I'm pretty well on board with eshto here.
A good friend of mine is about as far left as anyone I've ever known.
We worked together at Greenpeace several years ago.
He thinks that I lean way too far to the right on many issues, yet he would in no way have feelings or thoughts that you cats seem to attribute to the left in america.
We certainly represent what I would call the American Liberals.
I'm sure there are some extreme nut-jobs over here somewhere, but it's silly to think they represent the majority.

94. The real difference between liberals and conservatives

Comment #250399 by ggab7768 on September 19, 2008 at 3:45 pm

I found this to be a very interesting talk and certainly didn't see it as Fanusi seems to have.
Quite near the opposite in fact.
I haven't read all the posts yet, so I don't know if anyone else felt the same.
I read Haidt's article and all the responses when they were e-mailed by Sam Harris and found interesting information in all.

PS
There are still liberals in America that would make you Europeans proud, we're just being drowned out by the hippies.
We're quietly waiting for an opening to bring them all down with a nation-wide "stooge slap".
After their numbers allow us to bring some positive change to the country, we'll shove them down on the playground and threaten to take away their hummus if they don't shut the hell up.

95. Eoin Colfer to write sixth Hitchhiker's Guide book

Comment #249612 by ggab7768 on September 18, 2008 at 11:01 am

I agree with some of the above statements.
As far as I'm concerned there can never be another Douglas Adams and I'm uncomfortable with the thought. However I know that i will pick this up and read it. These characters had a massive effect on me so I will hope for the best.
Please, let me be pleasantly surprised.

96. It's All In The Hips: Early Whales Used Well Developed Back Legs For Swimming, Fossils Show

Comment #249605 by ggab7768 on September 18, 2008 at 10:51 am

bama
I can't figure out what made me giggle more.
Your comment or your avatar.

97. God, Evolution and Charles Darwin

Comment #249596 by ggab7768 on September 18, 2008 at 10:40 am

Coming from a theothinktank lemming I'm actually a little pleased.
Sure, his statements about athiests aren't accurate, but I would bet they are truly what he beleives.
It almost seems like a baby step towards a concession of sorts.
Do you think they're beginning to see the writing on the wall?
More than anything else, it fills me with curiosity. Kind of a "what are they up to?" feeling.
That could certainly just be my bias and the preconceived notions I have that mirror his attitude toward we athiests.
Certainly interesting.

98. The Holy Laughter Anointing

Comment #248735 by ggab7768 on September 16, 2008 at 6:34 pm

Diacana

Next time I get frustrated trying to argue with a creationist, I'm suddenly going to shout...
"Begone, searing gas cramps of Satan!!"

I really am.
Thanks

99. The Holy Laughter Anointing

Comment #248723 by ggab7768 on September 16, 2008 at 5:38 pm

I'm just sayin'...
Post videos of the psychochrists all you like.
We need to be as aware as possible, but this seems to be a hamhanded attempt to tie as extreme a set of clips as possible to palin when it may not be warranted. If you have footage of Mrs Palin rolling on the floor speaking in tongues, please post it!!
When the fake list of banned books was circulating the story was all over the news. The problem was that they were so busy debunking the list that they just glossed over the whole banning discussion leaving the impression that it was also bunk.
If we start throwing things like this around, we may end up with the same outcome.
People will begin to think that all the stories about her particularly nutty, faith engorged, beliefs are also just a smear campaign.
This woman is crazy enough that the honest truth should be enough.

100. The Holy Laughter Anointing

Comment #248522 by ggab7768 on September 16, 2008 at 11:28 am

Neuro
I know what you're saying.
If we can't accept people espousing Obama's guilt by association, we shouldn't seem to be trying so hard to do the same to Palin.
However, you are off the mark on the book banning issue. A bit more information has come out on that subject and it appears to have been something she attempted on a few occasions. From her start as a city counsilwoman.
She is also said to have attempted a school board takeover ala Dover in order to push a creationist agenda.
I am looking for more information on that right now.
Say what you will about Obama, but he has the balls to stand up in a church and talk about secular rights. Name another politician who will do that in a presidential election.