51. Genie shows barred by Islam, clerics say

Comment #32052 by savroD on April 15, 2007 at 11:00 am

This is exactly RD, as well as others, point out about fundamentalists, but more so the moderates. These people have no idea about how their own culture has evolved. They only want to maintain their control over others. Congratulations moderates, you get what you deserve!

52. Is God poison?

Comment #31045 by savroD on April 10, 2007 at 7:20 pm

I believe the author, although generally hostile to RD, SH, CH, and atheists, expresses a lot of their points spot on. It was good to see him quote the various authors directly; however, his verbal abuse of them biased what could have been a fair synopsis of relevant points to consider.

53. Even non-believers must recognise the moral necessity of Christianity

Comment #30685 by savroD on April 9, 2007 at 10:46 am

What a twit. He betrayed the memory of his friend. What an ass!

54. Answers To the Atheists

Comment #30360 by savroD on April 7, 2007 at 8:22 pm

Hmmmm..... It started well enough. We must keep the dialog going. That's a start. When it comes down to it, human nature draws us to the tools and toys of a modern world. People will not give up progress. Especially when it hits home; the product of accident or disease. Mr. Dione seems to think that the neo-arguments against the neo-atheists are valid. Oh well.... So much for his feeble atempting to think through something!

55. 'God Is Not a Moderate'

Comment #26789 by savroD on March 21, 2007 at 4:52 pm

Well..... thats a wrap! Andrew should just apologize and excuse himself from any further exchange. At this point it would really be a wasted effort. I guess we shall see. Oh...... and thank you Sam!

56. A 'Sad First' in the History of the Congress

Comment #25789 by savroD on March 15, 2007 at 6:17 am

These people are idiots who don't even know their own history, and the people who founded this country. What illiterate morons. I would like to thank the moderates once more for making the world safe for this kind of shit!

57. 'God Is Not a Moderate'

Comment #25786 by savroD on March 15, 2007 at 5:58 am

Interesting.... Andrew is having a go at playing in Sam's sandbox. I still think Andrew has all but admitted Sam has been on target all along. He's looking for anything to justify his faith. I think Sam, as well as the rest of us, should face the fact that some people have a hard time understanding the mystery and beauty of science; therefore, they stick with what they are most familiar. Consciousness is a bitch!

I'm sure Sam's response will be both interesting and enjoyable for us all.

58. Beyond Stones & Bones

Comment #25347 by savroD on March 12, 2007 at 11:13 am

Shatite.....
If indeed a tree with us as a branch, I think it fairly obvious that there will be several new shoots from this branch we call Homo-Sapien. I do expect a space-faring man, a non-space-faring, but technological man. A savage reservation for the religious fundamentalist fruitcakes is in order. Beyond this, the speculation becomes progressively more difficult.
Also, the environmental role is apparent. Global warming may trigger the next major changes. Hopefully it will have something to do with selecting out those delusional aspects of our consciousness, like religion, that no longer provide us with useful information.

59. Response to Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris

Comment #25014 by savroD on March 9, 2007 at 5:23 pm

Hey.... this dude has an opinion. Big deal. I've also heard humans who sound more like jackasses than humans. This is what I heard from this dufus. He wanted to let us all know he's an idiot, plain and simple.
I would expect all animals share certain behaviors and characteristics. After all we all have a common mamalian ancestor.

60. Public Acceptance of Evolution

Comment #24825 by savroD on March 8, 2007 at 6:41 pm

Hmmmmm..... I guess the ugly american has finally come true!

61. How my eyes were opened to the barbarity of Islam

Comment #24757 by savroD on March 8, 2007 at 10:44 am

As I see it this is a clear admission by the moderates that they have a problem. They still seem unwilling to recognize it's not just the fundamentalists; it's them!

62. The Dawkins Confusion: Naturalism ad absurdum

Comment #23704 by savroD on March 2, 2007 at 6:11 am

#74 Epeeist.... please.... Evolution will not be proved wrong by one thing. As a matter of fact, and I'll repeat, I sent an email to RD asking if he could help do what I think is needed. Define the first ever law of evolution. Gravitation has gone from theory to law. We need the same for evolution. We need to dispel these idiots who keep saying it's only a theory. Yes... certain aspects of gravitation are still theoretical; however more fundamentally, it's Newtonian aspects are irrefutable. I eagerly await the first Law of Evolution!

63. The Dawkins Confusion: Naturalism ad absurdum

Comment #23611 by savroD on March 1, 2007 at 6:08 pm

The only thing nauseating and absurd is this idiotic rant. This bozo likes to hear his own words, and then have the nerve to think it makes sense. The funny thing is that someone who agrees with this guy doesn't understand what this guy is saying and is going to pretend like this is an important refutation of TGD. Lastly, the lame attempt at subtle wit is neither subtle or witty. The guy is just trying to bash RD, not contribute anything important or thoughtfull.

64. William Crawley meets Richard Dawkins

Comment #23451 by savroD on February 28, 2007 at 7:53 pm

This Crawley dude is a reasonably good questioner. He's a lot better than similar chaps over here in the colonies!

65. Dawkins v. Collins Debate

Comment #23450 by savroD on February 28, 2007 at 7:49 pm

I find this whole compartmentalization thing disturbing. Let's all agree to dispell this Bantha poodoo now. Look, you can be a good scientist, and still believe in nonsense; however, you'll never be an excellent scientist. This is because as science advances, your theist nuthatch becomes smaller and smaller. Religion is analogous to a theoretical black hole. Science is sucked into it's clutches and can never escape long enough to make any sense. That is until it fades away...............

66. Dawkins v. Collins Debate

Comment #23362 by savroD on February 28, 2007 at 6:06 am

I've read interviews with this dude Collins before. And although I cannot see anything negative in his Scientific work, I certainly think he is a religious nutcase! RD always wins the technical case. Who the hell really cares about style. Nobody, can build a case on style, except for hmmmm... maybe the naive, or more directly, the theists.

67. The joy of changing your mind

Comment #23200 by savroD on February 26, 2007 at 6:18 pm

Interesting and important, this observation of ability to take input, learn, and transform, either behavior or moral stand. In the immortal words of Calvera to The Magnificent Seven, "If god did not want them sheared, he would not have made them sheep". I feel a little perturbed with the notion of sympathy for those afflicted by certain forms of deliberate ignorance. Ignorance is not bliss when it comes to honoring your planet and your fellow man. The best way to do this is through knowledge and understanding.

68. Pope speaks out against 'designer babies'

Comment #23145 by savroD on February 26, 2007 at 1:57 pm

It's always good for the pope to remind us all how worthless he is!

69. Faith

Comment #23143 by savroD on February 26, 2007 at 1:53 pm

This was a poor article but I'll look forward to hearing that debate. Hitchens has taken a lot of heat for his support of the war. I believe he's been very clear, to the point where he might almost be considered a militant anti-theist, that now is the time for no quarter for Islamic extremism. In my view, the religious moderates will protect themselves and their fundamentalists friends till the earth is a burned-out cinder!

70. Biology and Bullshit

Comment #22995 by savroD on February 25, 2007 at 2:45 pm

This was a very good synopsis of the current struggle, engendered in human intellectual disccourse, available as a tool for humanity. I would like to submit that the human ability to reason, most necessary for survival, has been held in check by religion. Let's face it. We can't and wll not all survive. A certain amount of life must take the fall. It's similar to when the indians use to stampede the buffalo off a cliff.
I would like to further submit that humanity must evolve. If we don't, we will not survive. We all know what evolve means, and we all know the implications of what I am saying. The human species must diverge. It's inevitable, at the very least, to carry some genetic information through the illusion of time.
Indeed, we have entered the era of great changes in our understanding of our biological nature. Here again we know where this leads. The fundamentalists can lay claim to Huxley's savage reservation; there they will be free. The environmentalists can lay claim to their Matrix. Lastly, those who journey out into space can lay claim to that outer space.
I sent an email to RD recently tasking him with writing the Laws of Evolution. As the theory of gravitation has led to the Laws of Gravitation; so too must the theory of evolution gravitate to the Laws of Evolution. At this point in human existence, it will do more to help us survive, in the immediate term, than any grand unifying theory of physics.

71. Atheists come in last

Comment #22865 by savroD on February 23, 2007 at 5:23 pm

Atheists do not get any credit in America because the moderates and extremists religious hate us. They hate our freedom. They want us subserviant to their master, or they are jealous we can think and act freely and they cannot. Even though they are sick, I don't recommend exterminating them!

72. Atheists come in last

Comment #22863 by savroD on February 23, 2007 at 5:19 pm

Bizzaro is an idiot. The Declaration says, "...endowed by their Creator"! The key word is "their". If they were respecting monotheism, it just would have said "Creator" not "their Creator" Anyone who believes this statement has anything to do with anything other than the god, gods, or lack there of should go take English 101 again.
Dufus!!!

73. Is America Too Damn Religious?

Comment #22791 by savroD on February 22, 2007 at 10:52 am

From my perspective, the problem with this debate was clear. The undecided moved to the decided, after the debate. One quarter to a full third of the US population is brain dead when it comes to religion. No blathering about MLK or anybody elses religious affiliation is going to change the fact that there are people who are just unwilling and unable to change, no matter what the evidence. What is sick is to say the free speech of these folks is not tantamount to yelling fire in a crowded theater.

74. 'God Is Not a Moderate'

Comment #22688 by savroD on February 20, 2007 at 6:10 pm

Fantastic.... literally a joy to read. I like Andrew's trick with contingency. It was a good bend. Honestly... he has faith in what he wants to have faith in. This is why RD quotes Persig's statement that if one person is delusional he's called insane and if many people have the same delusion it's called religion. Sam's reply is sober and reasoned, but dry. I've said before, Andrew wants to finger paint something real but that he cannot see; meanwhile, Sam just wants to take a picture of that reality and show it to Andrew. Andrew is in trapped by his own circular reasoning. His only way out would be to deny Religion, and open his life to the infinite avenues of nature. His seat will still be waiting for him in church, not to fall back into ignorance is bliss, but to enjoy the brotherhood of humanity he may find there to lift his emotions. That is of course, through the use of any cultural artifacts that makes him feel good. He simply is refusing to admit he doesn't have to believe to enjoy whatever sense or nonsense, (tragedy or comedy), he chooses. It reminds me everyone... if all elephants are pink and Nellie is an elephant. Is Nellie pink?

75. 'God Is Not a Moderate'

Comment #21916 by savroD on February 11, 2007 at 5:13 pm

There will be no war. Evolution is what will happen. I've said in another post, there is a savage reservation, not much different to that of Huxley's Brave New World, for fundamentalists. Homo-sapiens must give way to Homo-religioso, Homo-technological, for example. And those that move to space..... who knows. One thing you can be sure of, fundamentalism will cling to the Earth, until Earth dies a most noble death, I suspect.

76. 'God Is Not a Moderate'

Comment #21714 by savroD on February 10, 2007 at 6:42 pm

I just watched Reza and Sam. Although Reza clearly understands more about Islam and the middle east, he makes the same mistake of all moderates. He gives reality to the supernatural by calling it transcendence. Sam is right to point out, as Dan Dennet does, that the discourse amongst us all must be rational. You can't start by saying well my transcendent FEELING is telling me this is it and I refuse other views. The language religion has provided humanity is artistic, but by no means does it have any independent reality. You can't point at something and say it can't be pointed at!
CHEERS

77. 'God Is Not a Moderate'

Comment #21682 by savroD on February 10, 2007 at 2:58 pm

WOW! WOW! Sam split it wide open. Andrew, though I respect him, has no choice to conceed he's deluded and prefers it that way; otherwise, he might start to examine these beliefs he holds more thoroughly, as Sam suggests. I submit that this conversation is over. Andrew has revealed the same circular logic, over and over again, and says his mind is fixated and will not change. I would ask him to do a thought experiment and live a few days as if he were an Atheist. Though he might find some of the discrimination familiar to that he's had with respect to his sexuality, we all know he'll find his world is filled with even more wonder, more splendor, more joy, and lastly, his humanity driving a thirst for Scientific knowledge.

78. The questions science cannot answer

Comment #21678 by savroD on February 10, 2007 at 2:20 pm

Gentlemen and women;
All excellent arguments squashing McGrath completely. He probably keeps attacking because he's following all our comments here and getting ticked. What is even better, when someone writes something like McGrath has, it can be picked apart and exposed for it's lack of merit. Thank you all for a fabulous and truly enjoyable reading experience!

79. Ancient boy's skeleton sparks evolution debate

Comment #21140 by savroD on February 7, 2007 at 5:50 pm

I watched the original Planet of the Apes movie the other weekend. I think it's preety obvious that the bishop has not evolved at all. Funny thing, mentally, he's more closely related to Turkana Boy than he realizes!

80. 'God Is Not a Moderate'

Comment #21139 by savroD on February 7, 2007 at 5:46 pm

I'll take a stab at Sam's closing question to Andrew. If I were a believer, as Andrew, I would say jesus must come down from heaven and tell me there is no god, for me to believe. It's the only evidence one can accept. And, as we all know it can never happen, and even if it did, he would deny it was jesus and claim it was the anti-jesus!

81. Interview with Alister McGrath, author of 'The Dawkins Delusion?'

Comment #20861 by savroD on February 6, 2007 at 8:31 pm

This gentleman is certainly no intellectual, or scholar. He is trying to delude people and convert people. This is most obvious. And, he did us the courtesy of dragging along the little lady too. How cumbersome!

82. Panel discussion on atheism where no atheists are included

Comment #20859 by savroD on February 6, 2007 at 8:10 pm

This is simply bad journalism. Paula Zahn is a well paid idiot. I heard another female journalist, (CChung), ask Michael Newdow why does he hate god, when he was doing interviews related to his Supreme Court case. I couldn't believe it. I know I'll sound prejudiced here; however, where do they find these bimbos. There is probably a one in ten thousand trillion shot that Paula Zahn will ever read this post. If she did I want her to know that there are some people who know what a mockery of journalism this was. Furthermore, the females guests were despicable, in every sense of the word. At least the one man there was trying to get these morons to cut some slack.

83. Believing In Things Unseen Is Not Delusion

Comment #20763 by savroD on February 6, 2007 at 10:25 am

There is no hope for this Osama wanna be!

84. 'God Is Not a Moderate'

Comment #20223 by savroD on February 1, 2007 at 6:35 am

Sancus;
Nobody has to be a genius. This statement reflects the obsessive hero worship which the media drives. People should be honored for their accomplishments. Society is wrong to paint individuals, no matter how great the accomplishment, as somehow greater than having to perform the same functions we all perform every day in say, the bathroom.

85. Young, British Muslims 'getting more radical'

Comment #19749 by savroD on January 29, 2007 at 6:41 pm

Chol;
I accept your apology and will refrain from further off-topic comment here.
Cheers

86. Young, British Muslims 'getting more radical'

Comment #19715 by savroD on January 29, 2007 at 12:25 pm

Furthermore;
Does anyone here feel that the survival of humanity is worthwhile? even if it is some weird branch of space traveler's, without much bone and muscle!

87. Young, British Muslims 'getting more radical'

Comment #19713 by savroD on January 29, 2007 at 12:19 pm

Cholmonedeley;
To take these statements out of the context they were in is stupid.
In the first statement, I was talking about people who threaten your life, not your politics.
In the second statement, I was referring to the only logical outcome for the homo-sapien branch.
As for your digressions into some crude claim of facism and right to murder, they are without merit and should be ignored.

88. Young, British Muslims 'getting more radical'

Comment #19704 by savroD on January 29, 2007 at 10:58 am

Folks;
What we've got to do is to get those who claim to be moderates to stand up to their own extremists. I've said this before and I'll say it again. These guys who think they are in the middle, between us atheists and the fundamentalists, have allowed their religions to be consumed by these fascists. THEY are going to have to take their own crappy religions back. On our side, I have no moral issues with exterminating those who choose to even threaten us with violence. Actually, surely evolution has not ended. I have no problems with Huxley's savage reservation from Brave New World, for the fundamentalists. There they will be safe, and can be managed more effectively by those of us whp prefer to move on with the most important business we face; and that is, to insure human survivability.

89. 12 Year Old Girl Prodigy Paints Pictures of God

Comment #18744 by savroD on January 22, 2007 at 6:10 pm

This is a classic example of a poor story with poor writing. They say she's painting god when she really paints jesus. I would really like to see CNN report her as painting god and showing that picture of the spaghetti monster. People are so wonderfully gullible, the good shepherd indeed!

90. 'God Is Not a Moderate'

Comment #18732 by savroD on January 22, 2007 at 5:03 pm

Andrew is reading his mythological poetry; meanwhile, Sam is trying to have a rational fact check and exchange. Good try Andrew... I can really feel you trying to turn this into a performance, rather than a discussion. Please try to hurt a little more for "God's Hostages" which you do little to help with this talk.

91. 'God Is Not a Moderate'

Comment #18159 by savroD on January 18, 2007 at 4:37 pm

The most attentive comment from Sam I feel is, "While religious moderates don't fly planes into buildings, or organize their lives around apocalyptic prophecy, they refuse to deeply question the preposterous ideas of those who do."
This is the burning problem of our time. Nobody really cares what people believe or have faith in. They do care when they turn that belief into something destructive or burdensome on others. You see the moderates are the problem. They think they sit in the common sense middle; however all they do is make the world safe for these fundamentalists, as well as allow them a voice. It's sick. I say why don't these cowards exercise these demons from their own faith and leave us believers in an open society alone.

92. Reason, Unfettered by Faith

Comment #17080 by savroD on January 10, 2007 at 4:19 pm

My apologies on the spelling

93. Reason, Unfettered by Faith

Comment #17079 by savroD on January 10, 2007 at 4:17 pm

I just readan interview witj Francis Collins in Discover magazine. He is billed as the top geneticist in the US. He claims to be a Christian and in the middle between the RD camp and the fundamentalist religious camp. Actually for a reasonably smart guy like this to claim that just because he believes in evolution, understands genetics and microbiology he is in the middle of these camps is absurd. I guess he just hasn't studied christianity as much as he's studied genetics. I tend to frown upon these people who claim the middle. They would be absolute fools if they denied the science; yet in the same breath, they stroke their pet delusion. I blame these folks for making the world safe for the fundamentalist extremists. Nobody I know would deny anyones right to believe in what they desire; however, when they champion even part of the same foolishness and call themselves, "in the center", it only shows how even relatiely intelligent people can have no common sense.