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Comment #127322 by gcdavis on February 15, 2008 at 6:45 am
Quetzalcoatl Too late!
http://www.hpmosque.org.au/modules/content/?id=11
irate_atheist
One doesn't like to be a bad looser but I see from the IMCC that you missed two drugs tests during the close season!
52. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Madeline Bunting
Comment #127311 by gcdavis on February 15, 2008 at 6:35 am
No need for (?), I cannot match your double clanger, I will concede.
53. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Madeline Bunting
Comment #127302 by gcdavis on February 15, 2008 at 6:30 am
Hang on, weren't the South Circular Rules banned in 1983?
54. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Madeline Bunting
Comment #127299 by gcdavis on February 15, 2008 at 6:28 am
Good, that's very good!
Tooting Bec
55. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Madeline Bunting
Comment #127296 by gcdavis on February 15, 2008 at 6:26 am
Damm!
56. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Madeline Bunting
Comment #127293 by gcdavis on February 15, 2008 at 6:25 am
Marble Arch
Seems so obvious doesn't it?
57. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Madeline Bunting
Comment #127290 by gcdavis on February 15, 2008 at 6:20 am
May I suggest to Henri if he decides to take up Irate_Atheist's challenge
Theydon Bois
58. Debate between Richard Dawkins and Madeline Bunting
Comment #127217 by gcdavis on February 15, 2008 at 4:05 am
I think I heard RD agree that there is more than one kind of truth and to acknowledge emotional truth. What on earth is emotional truth, emotions are what you feel, no truth can be attributed to a feeling, to feel something is true is meaningless, truth only has meaning if it is objective otherwise anything is true if I think it is and we all know where that thinking ends up!
59. Charles Simonyi Professorship in the Public Understanding of Science
Comment #126695 by gcdavis on February 14, 2008 at 1:23 am
Atticus_of_Amber says that RD ticks all the boxes for elevation to the House of Lords, all except one, he has yet to "donate" £1,000,000 to the Labour Party!
60. Why multiculturalism must be abandoned
Comment #125270 by gcdavis on February 11, 2008 at 6:58 am
The one good thing to come out of all this is the extent to which secular voices have been heard, across the media, politics, blogs and letters pages there has been near unanimous condemnation of archbishop’s comments along with an appreciation that this special pleading is demanded by all faith groups, not just islam.
Hugh Caldwell I’m not sure about Pavlovian, there is a difference between a Pavlovian response that has been conditioned by repetition and a spontaneous response to the obvious threat associated with sharia. I understand where you are coming from though, if Williams had been talking about integrating hindu customs into our law it would have passed with far less comment.
61. Charles Simonyi Professorship in the Public Understanding of Science
Comment #125167 by gcdavis on February 11, 2008 at 3:22 am
I'll second Steve Jones!
and for the Public Misunderstanding of Science, anyone have a candidate?
62. Why multiculturalism must be abandoned
Comment #125162 by gcdavis on February 11, 2008 at 3:18 am
I first wrote this a year ago and have taken a lot of stick here and at other forums for opposing the concept of multiculturalism as practised here in the UK. I thought it worth repeating. I have been misrepresented as a racist usually by lefties for having the temerity of saying that immigrants should be expected to “sign up” to the core values of the host nation even at the expense of their own cultural origins.
If you want to live in the UK your entry ticket should be to share our values and learn our language (quickly), your colour, class, skills are not the issue. At the heart of the problem is of course religion, a moslem immigrant from Pakistan is less likely to assimilate than a Sikh from India because of the greater subjugation that islam demands. Even Poles bring with them a much stronger, more active and devout version of catholicism than our local version.
As a secularist I am alarmed at the creeping expansion of religion into education and government. Although I see no prospect at all of the UK following America’s path, we must fight to keep religious influence at bay and seek always to reign it back.
Multiculturalism’s bed fellow is political correctness and timidity amongst politicians. I long for one of them to stand up and assert their Britishness, this should not be confused with nationalism or mistaken for xenophobia. And before someone says “what is Britishness” it suffices to say that it is a broad “church” and not a narrow monoculturalism, in common with most developed societies it allows for wide range of behaviour and practice, if your are a Brit and don’t know what it is, then open your eyes and ears, it is all around you.
63. Help Build The Reason Project Archive!
Comment #123339 by gcdavis on February 7, 2008 at 2:12 am
Has Sam completed his PHD yet, if not, at this rate he never will?
64. Help Build The Reason Project Archive!
Comment #123324 by gcdavis on February 7, 2008 at 1:06 am
Sounds like RDFRS!
65. Blasphemy
Comment #122478 by gcdavis on February 5, 2008 at 10:22 am
Many of us live in countries who have sent troops to Afghanistan, men and women who are dying on a weekly basis to rid that country of the Taliban and Al Qaeda, in order for civilised, democratic values to take root, some hope!
66. Atheists to celebrate at Darwin Day in Coconut Creek
Comment #121854 by gcdavis on February 4, 2008 at 9:00 am
I'll go with that Mango.
Let's hear it for Reason day!
67. Atheists to celebrate at Darwin Day in Coconut Creek
Comment #121780 by gcdavis on February 4, 2008 at 6:36 am
Atheists celebrating "Darwin’s Day" is just plain stupid!
What it says to the other side is you have your god, we have ours. Darwin, like Newton before and Einstein after, made major contributions to our understanding of what we are and how things work. But to allow Darwin to be singled out and put in the ring to “fight” god is exactly what creationists want, they are ignorant and they want to drag the “debate” down to their level. Don’t oblige them.
Every scientific discipline has a contribution to make in undermining belief in the supernatural, not just biology.
68. God the psycho
Comment #121680 by gcdavis on February 4, 2008 at 1:14 am
Brilliant!!!!
Pat has produced a considerable body of work now, he deserves a permanent headline spot on this site, C'mon Josh lets give this guy the prominence he deserves.
69. The New Theology
Comment #113220 by gcdavis on January 19, 2008 at 2:28 am
The author demonstrates a typically insular view of an American correspondent; he has obviously not travelled to the UK or Europe. Only a handful of christian leaders here believe in creationism, most accept and have done for decades, the Darwinian view of evolution. That is why the christian religion, particularly the anglican variant, is not taken too seriously here and has been in slow decline for generations.
Dawkins is right, either you take the literal biblical view or you regard the whole enterprise as bollocks, to try and steer a middle way, cherry picking the bible, to make it fit your current view is at the very least disingenuous but more like likely a monstrous self deception.
70. George Scales, War Hero and Generous Friend of RDFRS
Comment #112929 by gcdavis on January 18, 2008 at 9:41 am
Comment #111337 by GBile :: Your comment about herding cats was spot on. This is the first time 200 plus atheists have ever agreed about anything! It has taken the news of George's fight against illness to demonstrate that we atheists respond with our hearts as well as our heads. Once again, best wishes George.
71. Huckabee Wants A 'Faith-based' Constitution
Comment #111902 by gcdavis on January 16, 2008 at 1:13 am
Is it really conceivable that America could elect a moron like Huckabee, can they not see what a disaster Bush's two terms have been to America's reputation? Neither men have any understanding of immense responsibility that the office of president involves, they behave (or will behave) like bulls in the china shop thrashing around breaking stuff that has taken centuries to develop, they surround themselves with sycophants and retards rather than subjecting their ideas and policies to objective scrutiny.
When I see Bush on TV I have pinch myself that this man really is the President of the United States of America, can your politics really have sunk this far?
72. George Scales, War Hero and Generous Friend of RDFRS
Comment #111332 by gcdavis on January 14, 2008 at 11:42 am
Good on you George. I hope your op goes well and that you are up and about soon. Best wishes from a fellow East Anglian.
Comment #109126 by gcdavis on January 8, 2008 at 11:58 am
God Bless you Pat
I always look forward to the next Pat Condell vid and this one is a stonker!
74. What have you changed your mind about? Why?
Comment #105926 by gcdavis on January 2, 2008 at 7:01 am
Truth is most of us don't change our mind very often about anything! Perhaps when the evidence is overwhelming we might, but mostly we humans stubbonly cling to existing notions. Of couse the more emotional or intelectual capital we have invested, the less likely we are to change our minds.
On those rare ocassions when I change my mind I feel quite liberated, for example I used to think that tea tasted better when the milk is poured first but now I think it tastes even better if the milk is poured last, of course the resulting brew must always be stirred in a clockwise direction, preferably whilst the stirrer is wearing a kilt, so no change there!
Comment #103318 by gcdavis on December 25, 2007 at 4:47 am
During the last 15 or so years I have observed the inexorable rise of Christian fascism and Islamic fundamentalism. Both feed off the fear that each provokes in the other. GW's slip of the tongue when he used the term crusade may turn out to be an accurate description after all. Even if Huckabee is not nominated his influence and that of his ilk, may grow stronger and the threat to the American constitution implied by his views further polarise US public opinion. What we are all longing for is a prominent US politician coming out as an atheist, this could begin the backlash although whoever is brave enough to make that move will be at the expense of his/her career.
76. Do the laws of God trump those of man?
Comment #99522 by gcdavis on December 17, 2007 at 1:19 am
Multiculturalism is a racism of the anti-racists: It chains people to their roots
77. Voyager 2 probe reaches solar system boundary
Comment #98178 by gcdavis on December 13, 2007 at 7:58 am
Nice poems Alkal
Comment #98017 by gcdavis on December 13, 2007 at 1:57 am
Realist has another advantage, it is easy to sloganize:
Get Real!
The Real Me!
The Real Deal!
I'm Real!
Comment #97383 by gcdavis on December 12, 2007 at 2:04 am
The name is a problem, atheist has a negative connotation even amongst the "I don't want to think about it" religiously neutral (there are lots of these here in the UK). Brights is just dumb, too self-congratulatory and as the article says the rest are no better.
When a group is formed to oppose something, like Greenpeace it is usually self evident what it is for, that is not the case with atheism, we are against belief in god and religion but what are we for? Any marketing man will tell you that is not a viable way to advance a proposition any more than it is to sell a soap powder.
Human beings feel special; to tell them they are simply a clump of cells descended from bacteria does not flatter them. To tell them there life has no divine meaning or purpose depresses them. To tell them that when they, die thats it, alarms them!
So what is the positive message? I am afraid it is an intellectual one; personally I feel liberated without god, I feel empowered to construct the moral blueprint for my own life, and yes I feel superior when I ridicule superstition of any kind. I'm not sure how you package that for Middle America.
I guess we just keep slogging away, undermining the edifice of religion in the hope that one day it will crumble, and as for a name, like jroen I favour REALISTS.
80. Laugh at Sudan
Comment #96830 by gcdavis on December 11, 2007 at 1:48 am
Pat's witty and withering comments on religious extemism are priceless. I know that these are perfectly crafted monologues but I would love to see Pat in open debate, my guess is that he could crucify (oops!) any religious apologist that he encountered.
81. Colouring book warns kids of pedophile priests
Comment #94915 by gcdavis on December 7, 2007 at 1:58 am
BEWARE THE HAND OF GOD!
...inside your pants!
82. Mitt Romney's Faith In America address (as prepared for delivery)
Comment #94911 by gcdavis on December 7, 2007 at 1:52 am
Confusing the Tigris and Euphrates for the Mississippi and Missouri is an easy mistake to make; after all they are all rivers.
From: No Man Knows My History: the life of Joseph Smith, by Fawn Brodie
"Shortly after his arrival Joseph rowed up the Grand River to Lyman Wight's ferry to explore land on the north bank in Daviess County [Missouri]. On a high bluff overlooking the river someone in the party discovered the ruins of what seemed to be an altar and excitedly led the prophet to it. After examining it Joseph stood silent, his eyes sweeping over the prairie that rolled away beneath him....The glory of the scene made Joseph heady as with new wine. 'This is the valley of God in which Adam blessed his children,' he said, 'and upon this very altar Adam himself offered up sacrifices to Jehovah....we will lay out a city which shall be called Adam-ondi-Ahman. Here Adam, the Ancient of Days, shall come to visit his people....'
83. Chimps beat humans in memory test
Comment #93712 by gcdavis on December 4, 2007 at 1:33 am
Spoking as a chumpinzee miself I kant sea whot all the fus is aboyt, we hive alwaze bean god at numburs, not so goud at wordzs thow!
84. In the name of God: the Saudi rape victim's tale
Comment #91686 by gcdavis on November 29, 2007 at 1:33 am
My sentiments too toaldingham
There are two E-Petitions that we all should sign:
http://search.petitions.pm.gov.uk/kbroker/number10/petitions/search.lsim?ha=1157&sc=number10&qt=saudi+rape
UK citizens only I'm afraid
85. Onward Christian teachers?
Comment #87739 by gcdavis on November 13, 2007 at 2:18 am
fides_et_ratio
A disappointing article that makes a mockery of what little evidence it presents, and consequently only succeeds in showing the author's bias in carefully avoiding any earnest search for the truth.
86. A third of adults believe God watches over them
Comment #87733 by gcdavis on November 13, 2007 at 1:56 am
May I suggest that these may have been some of the prayers offered.
"Oh god I feel like shit why did I drink so much last night!.
"God help that little git when I get my hands on him"!
"Oh god would I like to get in her knickers"
"Oh god I think I slept with my girlfiends sister last night"
"God helps those who help themselves but god help those that I catch helping themselves"!
87. A third of adults believe God watches over them
Comment #87732 by gcdavis on November 13, 2007 at 1:49 am
This "poll" flies in the face of every independent survey carried out in the UK in recent years
The reseachers (Taylor Nelson Sofres) seem to be bona fide, we will never know what Tearfund did with the data.
Data processing
After coding and editing the data, weighting was applied to correct for any minor imbalances in the achieved sample profile. The weighting matrix incorporated sex, age, social grade and region. Cross tabulations were produced for each questions against key demographic variables. These data remain confidential to
Tearfund.
88. Dr Bari: Government stoking Muslim tension
Comment #87468 by gcdavis on November 12, 2007 at 7:46 am
I lifted this from the MCB website
Rejecting Terror
Monday 02 July 2007
Muslims everywhere consider all acts of terrorism that aims to murder and maim innocent human beings utterly reprehensible and abhorrent. There is no theological basis whatsoever for such acts in our faith. The very meaning of the word 'Islam' is peace. It rejects terror and promotes peace and harmony.
The words in the Qur'an are clear:
If anyone kills a human being, unless it be (in punishment) for murder, or of spreading corruption in the land, it should be looked upon as though he had slain all mankind, and if anyone saves a life it should be regarded as though he had saved the lives of all mankind.(5:32) ."
89. Dr Bari: Government stoking Muslim tension
Comment #87454 by gcdavis on November 12, 2007 at 7:10 am
It is amazing how these people can reconcile this...
Sir Salman Rushdie should never have been knighted, he says. "He caused a huge amount of distress and discordance with his book, it should have been pulped."
"The bookshops are independent businesses," he says. "We can't just go in and tell them what to sell I will see what books they keep, if they have one book which looks like it is inciting hatred, do they have counter books on the same shelf?"
90. Bill Moyers interviews Jonathan Miller
Comment #87375 by gcdavis on November 12, 2007 at 2:04 am
Miller is a truly Renaissance man and who many of us Brits regard as a national treasure. He is extremely funny as well as being an acclaimed director of film, opera and TV (he did a brilliant TV adaptation of Alice in Wonderland). His book The Body in Question has been reprinted is a fascinating description of how the body works written for a popular audience so even I was able to understand it.
Comment #84721 by gcdavis on November 3, 2007 at 10:33 am
As Ivan the not so bad pointed out this is just the first of a series of fascinating articles, all are worth reading and there is a useful Sources page at the end. I have quoted from two of them
MENTION a "megachurch" and most people think of a gleaming building in the American suburbs. In fact, many of the biggest churches are outside the United States. In Guatemala, Pentecostals have built what may be the largest building in Central America: Mega Frater (Big Brother) packs a 12,000-seater church, a vast baptism pool and a heliport. One church in Lagos can supposedly bring 2m people out onto the streets. But five of the world's ten biggest megachurches are in just one country: South Korea.
Islam is a religion without much hierarchy: most mosques claim to be following the teachings of one preacher or another, but their real authority comes from the Koran. This helps new imams to set up shop and allows them to do pretty much what they like.
92. What's Good About Religion?
Comment #83136 by gcdavis on October 29, 2007 at 3:47 am
Pat Condell is a national treasure. He deserves a spot on TV (or Radio 4), maybe The Daily Show could offer him one. For those who haven't watched it the Daily Show is broadcast in the UK at 8.30 weekdays on More4
93. Brief Regarding the California Same-Sex Marriage Case
Comment #82286 by gcdavis on October 26, 2007 at 1:59 am
If you have problems displaying this PDF (I did) it may be because the file name has spaces, if you use "Save Target As" (right mouse click the link on a PC) you should be able to save it to your desktop and then read it.
Quote from page 6 of the document
James Madison, the author of the initial draft of the Establishment Clause, had, along with Thomas Jefferson, his closest ally in separating government and religion, always demonstrated a commitment to a government that was totally neutral in matters of religion, and not just a government that could favor religion, generally, over nonbelief. Four years before initially introducing the concept of the Establishment Clause intoCongress, Madison opposed a general assessment in Virginia, that would have used taxpayer money for the benefit of all clergy.
94. Make Richard Dawkins a Knight
Comment #80485 by gcdavis on October 22, 2007 at 12:59 am
Theocrapcy Yes Brits only I'm afraid
Not much likelyhood, you need half a million sigs before the PR dept at no 10 sit up and take notice
95. Atheistic Denomination Struggles To Fill Void Left by Founder's Death
Comment #79920 by gcdavis on October 19, 2007 at 3:48 am
This highlights a problem that we atheists have in attempting to wean people off religion. For many, even more important than their faith in god, is the fact that their religion provides them with a cultural identity and a set of shared values. This is obviously particularly evident in immigrant communities. I have friends who are second/third generation Polish immigrants and their church is meeting place where they recharge their cultural batteries. Despite their catholic faith Poles in the UK have been very successful in being assimilated into the host community.
96. Anthropologist finds cultural emphasis on group over individual might hinder democracy
Comment #79045 by gcdavis on October 16, 2007 at 1:22 am
Good point nakedcelt, is Tonga different to the other islands? Having said that one point in the article is well made, is it likely that democracy will take root in the Middle East where the prevailing culture is very different from Europe and the West?. Democracy evolved in Europe and spread to those countries that received immigrants from Europe and has become an integral part of our legal and political system. Has our cultural tradition always been one that emphasizes the individual, probably not? More likely it is chicken and egg situation, as democracy became established we became more aware of our individual rights and demanded ever more from our democratic/political institutions. They in turn have responded in order to keep themselves in power.
In the UK this process has been well documented, the demise of deference during the sixties and seventies, the "cult" of the individual that was given impetus during the Thatcher years and coincided with the "rolling back of the state" that gave individuals greater control (and responsibility) for pensions, health care, education etc.
We are now part of the "Me" generation, where rights are demanded but responsibilities often overlooked. Go back a thousand years and I'll bet our society was not that different to Tonga, apart from the climate of course.
97. We Few, We Happy Few, We Band of Brothers
Comment #77883 by gcdavis on October 11, 2007 at 2:25 am
The Milgram obedience experiment was show on BBC TV in the sixties, I saw it then and it is the most powerful documentary that I have ever seen, it deservers another showing. The original footage is available if your are prepared to pay $350.00!
http://soar.ois.psu.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/SOAR.woa/wo/8.0.9.3.1.12.0.23.1
98. The New Atheism: An Interview with Mitchell Cohen
Comment #77881 by gcdavis on October 11, 2007 at 2:01 am
A rather rambling article, questions too short, answers too long; one part caught my eye though...
Question: Isn't the pro-Darwin propaganda of the New Atheists really a step back? Doesn't it lose sight of the fact that a critique of the idea of the survival of the fittest is also a critique of a brutal society?
99. We Few, We Happy Few, We Band of Brothers
Comment #77678 by gcdavis on October 10, 2007 at 6:11 am
Motivation of the suicide terrorist
I guess we all wonder what is going on inside the head of a suicide bomber. The Andy Thomson's lecture along with a Channel 4 documentary earlier this week have both shed some light on it.
In Thomson's lecture he refers to the attempted bombing at Glasgow airport, when his car, filled with explosives, failed to detonate the driver (a doctor) doused himself with petrol and set himself alight. 30 days later he died, his body suffered horrendous burns with exception of his genitals which he had protected with dampened material. This was apparently not an isolated incident as the remains of other suicide bombers have revealed.
In the TV documentary two 17 year old failed suicide bombers in Afghanistan were questioned about their motivation, the promise of virgins in paradise played a significant part. They were impressionable lads, rather than committed terrorists, they were naive enough to believe that god would detonate their bomb belts, the reality was of course that their bombs would be remotely detonated by their "minder" standing a safe distance away.
Add to this the extreme attitude towards adultery prevalent in Islam, with stoning and other "honour" killings plus the complete covering of the female form in traditional islamic dress and a picture begins to emerge.
You don't need to be a Freudian to conclude that the mindset of the islamic male is strongly characterised by sexual inadequacy and repression along with an idealised and unobtainable vision of women. The suicide bombings in the UK throw this into sharper focus; the perpetrators were nearly all UK born Asians living in a culture of permissiveness. They were no doubt tempted by the sex that surrounded them and several were known to have used pornography; yet their statements were laced with phrases like "death to the sluts".
In common with other cultures and faiths islam also has a repressed attitude toward menstruation, a woman must not touch the koran during her period and must bathe thoroughly after it.
Whether uneducated peasants or well educated doctors this inability to relate to women's sexuality and its replacement with a fantasised view of women that elevates purity and virginity above all other qualities is a volatile cocktail even without religion. But when you add to it the certainty of faith the mixture is (forgive the pun) literally explosive.
100. A New Debate
Comment #75625 by gcdavis on October 3, 2007 at 6:41 am
As there is absolutely no chance of this event taking place may I suggest some alternative shows that may suit the presidential candidates better.
Desperate Candidates
The power outage is also eventful for Hilary and Barack. It traps them in an elevator and she decides to "seize the moment" and talks him into some steamy elevator sex. He's worried they'll be caught, but they're able to dress barely when the elevator starts moving again. They don't realize they were caught on the building's security camera.
Lost (Cause)
A man awakes in a jungle. He is bruised and bloody, and doesn't know where he is. He forces himself up and winces in pain, leaning against a tree. After the initial shock of the crash has settled a little, Dennis Kucinich digs through the scattered luggage and finds a sewing kit.
Super Nanny
With four kids under four, this Superdad needs Supernanny. While he's a funny character for outsiders to laugh at, three-year-old son Mit's antics aren't humorous for his dad, Rudy.
Ugly John (McCain)
John's life is in chaos after a series of very unfortunate events in Arizona, but despite all that's happened, he's still in denial about one thing how much George's departure has affected him. Meanwhile, Mike Huckabee turns to junk food and to Fred Thompson in dealing with the revelation that Tom Tancredo was his real mother.
Candidates Wife Swap
For the Biden family from Delaware, life revolves around the household's canine "royalty." Spending over $100,000 a year on her 100 pups, dog breeder Jill dedicates almost all of her time to her dogs, while treating husband, Joe, and son, Robert, like second class citizens.