1051. Fleabytes
Comment #133976 by Tyler Durden on February 27, 2008 at 5:34 am
Comment #133860 by clearthinker:
The Universe does not revolve around me. It revolves around Jesus Christ.I'm still laughing at this one, seriously. (The entire Universe? Really?)
1052. Fleabytes
Comment #133952 by Tyler Durden on February 27, 2008 at 3:58 am
"When I read the Old Testament I find a wonderful God, a God of mercy, justice, beauty, holiness and love, a God who cares passionately for the poor, for his people and for his creation." David Robertson The Dawkins Letters: Challenging Atheist MythsArgument from personal bias.
1053. Fleabytes
Comment #133919 by Tyler Durden on February 27, 2008 at 3:04 am
David Robertson, tut, tut, tut. This is like the "One of these things is not like the other" game played on Sesame Street.
Irate, would you like to, or shall I? :)
1054. Fleabytes
Comment #133901 by Tyler Durden on February 27, 2008 at 2:31 am
Quetz,
By correcting your post #1055, I reckon you've shown what a non-fundamentalist you are. Kudos :)
David/clearthinker, see how easy it is, try it, go on, you know you want to!
1055. Fleabytes
Comment #133873 by Tyler Durden on February 27, 2008 at 1:57 am
Comment #133860 by clearthinker:
I have never made that argument (which apparently does not seem to stop you alrguing against it). The Universe does not revolve around me. It revolves around Jesus Christ.Ha Ha! This is the funniest thing I've read all year. David, thank you, thank you so much for bringing such humour into my day. You are a legend in your own lunchtime.
1056. Add another flea to the list...
Comment #133505 by Tyler Durden on February 26, 2008 at 9:03 am
Sorry, I was away for a while, did I miss something?
Sorry!
Edit: Ooops, sorry for saying sorry!
1057. The Salamander's Tale
Comment #133454 by Tyler Durden on February 26, 2008 at 7:52 am
wooter,
If p then q
Not q
Therefore not p
So:
If God existed then we would see the effects of this God.
We do not see the effects of a God.
Therefore God does not exist.
1058. Add another flea to the list...
Comment #133425 by Tyler Durden on February 26, 2008 at 7:17 am
Comment #133416 by annabanana:
Ummm....what was the topic again?The Delusion of Disbelief: Why the New Atheism is a Threat to Your Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness
1059. Pakistan blocks YouTube over blasphemous video
Comment #133405 by Tyler Durden on February 26, 2008 at 6:57 am
Comment #133398 by mikejswalker:
Are their ever any merits to keeping quietor being more 'subtle' about oppression and injustice?Rosa Parks would probably have disagreed with "keeping quiet" about injustice. Sometimes these people need a finger in the eye to let them know they can't get it all their own way!
1060. Add another flea to the list...
Comment #133396 by Tyler Durden on February 26, 2008 at 6:50 am
Tea, Earl Grey, hot. Make it so!
1061. Church is paying a high price for its celibacy rule
Comment #133380 by Tyler Durden on February 26, 2008 at 6:35 am
Comment #133375 by Wendy M:
and there would be more single men available to join the priesthood too.If there were a lack of women in society due to them joining a convent, I think I'd rather sit at home and masturbate than join the priesthood.
1062. Add another flea to the list...
Comment #133372 by Tyler Durden on February 26, 2008 at 6:24 am
Comment #133353 by epeeist:
the parents of my daughter's boyfriend are coming to visit us shortly. They hail from Arkansas. Could you suggest some good topics of conversation?"Do you accept the theory of Darwinian evolution by Natural Selection, oh and can I take your coats?"
1063. Feb 12th: Happy Darwin Day!
Comment #133339 by Tyler Durden on February 26, 2008 at 4:58 am
Quetz,
Scarlett Johansson? :)
1064. Feb 12th: Happy Darwin Day!
Comment #133328 by Tyler Durden on February 26, 2008 at 4:26 am
Comment #133312 by Quetzalcoatl:
Anyone who has seen the Karate Kid films will know how much that particular discipline sucks.Gasp! No! I will not have a bad word said about the Karate Kid films (well, the first one anyway). I'm getting Daniel-san and Mr Miyagi, the Kobra-kai and Martin Kove together to call you out Sir... first prize is Elizabeth Shue :)
1065. Pakistan blocks YouTube over blasphemous video
Comment #133274 by Tyler Durden on February 26, 2008 at 2:21 am
Comment #133269 by irate_atheist:
...by a blind man using a marker pen.And with space left over for David Robertson to outline his "tenets" for atheism!
1066. Pakistan blocks YouTube over blasphemous video
Comment #133261 by Tyler Durden on February 26, 2008 at 1:46 am
PTA believes that the said footage absolutely stands against the values of religious tolerance and peaceful co-existence arousing deep anguish and distress across the Muslim world.The list of things that do not cause "deep anguish and distress across the Muslim world" could be written on the back of a postage stamp!
1067. The Salamander's Tale
Comment #133252 by Tyler Durden on February 26, 2008 at 1:32 am
Comment #133247 by wooter:
We never say if there is a painting then there is chances and luck that made that painting by chance.wooter, how many times do you need to be told this. Your "argument from design" is not the same as evolution. A painting (or a car, or a mousetrap) is not organic, whereas life is. How can you be so blind/stupid not to see the same point being made to you by so many different people, and yet continue to make the same elementary mistake?
If there is an art , there is an artist.And if there is breathtaking inanity, there is wooter!
1068. Church is paying a high price for its celibacy rule
Comment #132819 by Tyler Durden on February 25, 2008 at 8:34 am
Yep, grew up in Raheny, then onto Coolock. As the old joke goes: what does a northsider use for protection? A bus shelter :)
1069. Church is paying a high price for its celibacy rule
Comment #132802 by Tyler Durden on February 25, 2008 at 8:07 am
hungarianelephant,
I stopped voting for anyone on this island a long, long time ago. When I did vote, I would usually give it to the Green Party (just so I wasn't spoiling my vote), now look at them!!
Also, I went to a Christian Brothers high-school in North Dublin, this has since closed due to lack of numbers, sign of the times?
1070. Church is paying a high price for its celibacy rule
Comment #132766 by Tyler Durden on February 25, 2008 at 7:33 am
Bishop: So, Father. Do you ever have any doubts about the religious life? Is your faith ever tested? Anything you would be worried about? Any doubts you've been having about any aspects of belief? Anything like that?
Father Dougal: Well, you know the way God made us all, right? And he's looking down at us from heaven and everything?
Bishop: Uh-huh.
[nods]
Father Dougal: And then his son came down and saved everyone and all that?
Bishop: Yes.
Father Dougal: And when we die we're all going to go to heaven?
Bishop: Yes. What about it?
Father Dougal: Well, that's the bit I have trouble with.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111958/quotes
Classic!
1071. Fleabytes
Comment #132739 by Tyler Durden on February 25, 2008 at 7:11 am
Can you tell me of even one instance when a theist has offered any evidence, subjected their views to any evidence, or provided any predictions based on a "god centered universe"?I can just see wooter feverishly typing away and replying with: Doesn't the sun rise every morning in the East? What more evidence for God do you need?
1072. Fleabytes
Comment #132629 by Tyler Durden on February 25, 2008 at 4:09 am
I still have my old Atheist Membership Card (#344236F) from 1985, wow, I look so young in that photo :)
1073. Fleabytes
Comment #132620 by Tyler Durden on February 25, 2008 at 3:50 am
Comment #132601 by clearthinker:
Allan, and all the others please stop the amateur psychology.Why? Psychology is what I'm currently studying, why should I not get to use it?
I believe what I believe because I think it is true. It is not out of fear and yes I have doubted many times, and a couple of times even tried to be an atheist. But the evidence would not let me.Sounds like an argument from Wishful Thinking - "I really, really want it to be true so it must be true." Not so David, not even close!
1074. Fleabytes
Comment #131224 by Tyler Durden on February 22, 2008 at 4:39 am
Comment #131217 by clearthinker/David Robertson:
Before we get on to the specifics of your review there is a lot I will not respond to because it is largely perception which is not evidenced.Ha Ha! That's rich. Complaining about a lack of evidence to back up one's point. That's what it's like talking to the God-squad time-after-time. Welcome to my world, David.
It maybe that the movie 'Expelled' is not so far off the mark.Have you seen this movie?
The only think I can ask is that people actually read both TGD and The Dawkins Letters to see if your perceptions are actually perceptive or the result of prejudgement.David, I'm not buying your book, get over it.
Now I have to go as I have a job to do - a sermon to prepare for Sunday.We all have jobs to do, you don't hear me pontificating about it. Child.
1075. Fleabytes
Comment #131198 by Tyler Durden on February 22, 2008 at 3:46 am
Comment by David Robertson:
But given the assurance you have stated I will not go on to respond to Paula.Surely a Freudian slip if ever there was one?
1076. Fleabytes
Comment #130772 by Tyler Durden on February 21, 2008 at 9:09 am
David/Wee Flea,
If your fellow Scots are this hesitant about committing to something so important, they'll get absolutely creamed by Ireland in Croke Park on Saturday!!
1077. Feb 12th: Happy Darwin Day!
Comment #130767 by Tyler Durden on February 21, 2008 at 9:02 am
Comment #130763 by Steve Zara:
Let us see what followsThe end of the world as we know it?
1078. Why Darwin matters
Comment #130764 by Tyler Durden on February 21, 2008 at 8:57 am
Jesus walks into a hotel with 3 nails, says to the deskclerk...
1079. Fleabytes
Comment #130758 by Tyler Durden on February 21, 2008 at 8:39 am
The return of Wee Flea will no doubt confirm the definition of insanity as given by Einstein:
"Insanity: repeating the same behaviour over and over again and expecting different results."
Or we could all be wrong?
1080. Fleabytes
Comment #130732 by Tyler Durden on February 21, 2008 at 7:57 am
Comment #130721 by Richard Morgan:
Here are instructions for being a Wee Flea:
1. Engage.
2. Lather.
3. Rinse.
4. Repeat.
I'll get me coat!
1081. Fleabytes
Comment #130724 by Tyler Durden on February 21, 2008 at 7:42 am
David Robertson,
Quit your whining and start your posting... time's a wasting. I want evidence!
1082. Does the Bible have a place in public schools?
Comment #130711 by Tyler Durden on February 21, 2008 at 7:24 am
Inane rambling #130695 by brianelensky:
The Bible needs to be taught in all schools...Really? Even the Muslim ones in Iraq and Saudi - good luck with that!
There is nothing more important in this world than knowing Jesus and having a personal relationship with him.What's he drinking? First round is on me!
It doesn't matter if it's against the law...Oh but it does, you little fucktard. I'm sure burning down your church or home is also against the law... can you see where I'm going with this? Cretin.
Our children are our most valuable asset...Strange, I thought it was oil?
1083. Why Darwin matters
Comment #130703 by Tyler Durden on February 21, 2008 at 7:15 am
Comment #130696 by irate_atheist:
The kind of god dumb enough to get nailed to a post, perhaps.
1084. Fleabytes
Comment #130693 by Tyler Durden on February 21, 2008 at 6:59 am
Aw, does David want a wollipop?
1085. Why Darwin matters
Comment #130665 by Tyler Durden on February 21, 2008 at 6:16 am
ForestMist,
If I may: it's all magic. Oh, and goddidit :)
I remember asking all these types of questions when I were a wee lad, and the "answers" I got back from parents, teachers, priests etc. were all circular, never made any sense, and led me to believe this whole "god" busniess was just a load of tosh. If they couldn't explain it to me, why should I even bother listening to their silly little stories!
1086. Fleabytes
Comment #130660 by Tyler Durden on February 21, 2008 at 5:52 am
Comment #130653 by Artful_Dodger:
if evolution is indeed indifferent, if it neither knows nor cares, then it is meaningless to expend our energies in defense of the weak and vulnerableRubbish!! Evolution is a process. What you do with your energy is a moral choice.
The "survival of the fittest" theme will always have the last wordFrom a genetic point of view. You still have free will to act: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reciprocal_altruism
Human dignity is of no more importance than the dignity of compost.Compost does not have feelings. We have consciousness. You're not comparing like with like, try again!
1087. Fleabytes
Comment #130640 by Tyler Durden on February 21, 2008 at 4:05 am
Excellent post, Vaal.
Look out for the "No true Scotsman" fallacy to come your way from Artful_Dodger:
"Well, that may be so, but that's not my religion! So there!"
1088. Fleabytes
Comment #130631 by Tyler Durden on February 21, 2008 at 3:36 am
Richard,
I was brought up Catholic, but didn't believe in god/gods, but didn't know why or how to express this sentiment.
After extensive reading of relevant literature over the years, I now do, and can, at the drop of a hat.
Simple really :)
1089. Fleabytes
Comment #130617 by Tyler Durden on February 21, 2008 at 2:46 am
Comment #130582 by Artful_Dodger:
I have not read what David Robertson, for example, has written, but I am familiar with his arguments.I have not read what David Robertson, for example, has written, but I am familiar with his "arguments".
1090. Why Darwin matters
Comment #130315 by Tyler Durden on February 20, 2008 at 9:37 am
Comment #130313 by The Bishop:
Anyway, we've been having a bit of an impromptu prayer meeting for you all.And yet nothing has changed. Quelle surprise! :)
1091. Why Darwin matters
Comment #130297 by Tyler Durden on February 20, 2008 at 8:25 am
Al,
I'm just curious if The Bishop has read anything other than the bible.
1092. Why Darwin matters
Comment #130292 by Tyler Durden on February 20, 2008 at 8:17 am
The Bishop,
Quoting "jesus" here will get you nowhere! Have you read "Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why" by Bart D. Ehrman?
1093. Why Darwin matters
Comment #130285 by Tyler Durden on February 20, 2008 at 8:08 am
655. Comment #130271 by irate_atheist
LOL, thanks for that one :)
1094. Why Darwin matters
Comment #130284 by Tyler Durden on February 20, 2008 at 8:06 am
Comment #130280 by The Bishop:
They have not understood their own scriptures.Ah, I see. So you have read the bible in its original Hebrew, Greek and Ancient Aramaic texts?
1095. Feb 12th: Happy Darwin Day!
Comment #130276 by Tyler Durden on February 20, 2008 at 8:00 am
Inane rambling #130198 by wooter:
okay. here is my proof. Go and check each phase of an unborn baby's development in mother's womb and see it yourself.So wooter, how do you explain your god giving a light coat of fur to the foetus while in early-stage in-utero development?
1096. Why Darwin matters
Comment #130262 by Tyler Durden on February 20, 2008 at 7:50 am
hungarianelephant, and he's got to get to Pascal's Wager yet ;-)
1097. Why Darwin matters
Comment #130238 by Tyler Durden on February 20, 2008 at 7:31 am
As Jesus said, "Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God."I thought it was the cheesemakers? Oh well, back to bible study for me :)
1098. Why Darwin matters
Comment #130211 by Tyler Durden on February 20, 2008 at 7:14 am
Inane rambling #130200 by The Bishop:
their own pre-conceived ideas of sacrificeExcuse me? I thought the bible was the word of your god?
Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molech, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the LORD.Ho-hum. Argument from authority. You're gonna need something more substantial to convince me. Next!
1099. Why Darwin matters
Comment #130192 by Tyler Durden on February 20, 2008 at 7:00 am
Comment #130186 by The Bishop:
Well, it was scientists who invented nuclear weapons.Are you 12 years of age? Seriously. Turn off the PC and go do your homework or take out the garbage! Child.
1100. Why Darwin matters
Comment #130182 by Tyler Durden on February 20, 2008 at 6:55 am
Comment #130176 by The Bishop:
Well, I take it that you are mostly ex-christians of one sort or another who have decided to find all the bits of the Bible which make you unhappy...Did anyone here mention being unhappy? Argument from presupposition methinks!