Comments by Brian English

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Comment #206718 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 5:23 pm

If somebody sees a book he or she knows automatically there is an author, if he sees a painting he knows there is a painter etc without seing them. Nobody thinks they existed by chance with natural conditions.

Agreed. This makes sense.

So, have you seen Allah design or create the universe, any universe? If not, then your analogy fails. Can you see this?

There is inconceivable amount of information and design in the universe and living beings.

This is not certain. Prove this please.

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Comment #206709 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 5:11 pm

What evidence Joe? So far you have these arguments.

Everything has a cause.
First, how do you know? Have you seen everything and every cause in the universe? No, you haven't. Secondly, there are Quantum virtual particles that have no cause and do exist. So your argument is false. Some things don't have a cause. So it's possible the universe doesn't have a cause.

I think the universe and life look designed, therefore there must be a designer. This is a poor analogy. You cannot claim design unless you've seen life and the universe designed by a designer. This means you need to be able to show the designer before you can claim design.

It's really simple Joe, prove that God exists, then you can prove that he designed and created the universe. Can you do this?

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Comment #206699 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 5:01 pm

Joe Morealle, can you please provide an argument for God's existence that is logical and doesn't beg the question?

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Comment #206696 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 4:58 pm

Joe or ertu, you have not provided arguments for the existence of God. You have provided the false Kalam argument and the poor analogy by design. Kalam is false, and argument by design is not convincing to anyone who doesn't already believe as it begs the question. Can you provide any arguments that are reasonable and logical?

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Comment #206693 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 4:56 pm

Joe Morealle, does the Quran mention Quantum virtual particles? Particles that have no cause? If not, it's not very scientific.

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Comment #206690 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 4:53 pm

The more I consider the universe ertu, with all its chaos, deadly environs. The more I consider how life is so gerry-built. The more I see that it cannot be designed. You do realize that you've never seen the designer or designs of the universe and that this means you can't claim design? You need to prove there is a designer.

I never said the universe happened by chance. There are well know forces and processes.

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Comment #206685 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 4:47 pm

ertu, I may not be so smart as you or a school child. Let's see:

The universe (The matter time and space did not exist a moment before Big Bang. 14 billion yrs ago the entire universe came into being from nothingness.

How do you know matter and time did not exist before the big bang? No scientist makes this claim. We just don't know because our theories break down just after the start of the big bang. For all we know, the universe may be a big cycle of big bangs and big crunches.

As you might understand nothing can come into being by chance from nothingness.

This is false. All the time virtual particles are coming into existence and going out of existence without a cause.

IT MUST BE CREATED.It is a very powerful evidence of creation by GOD.

As I've just pointed out, there are many things that exist and are not created. There is no reason to suppose that universe is not one of them. If God exists, you'll have to prove it.

You'll have to do a lot better than that ertu. So far you have offered nothing.

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Comment #206676 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 4:27 pm

Ertu, you need to prove the universe was created. To do this you need to prove that there is a creator. You cannot claim this, it is your job to prove it.
Please prove that there is a creator or designer. To do this you need to provide arguments that I can accept. I will not accept your bad faith quotations and illogical assertions. Do you wish to convince me, or do you not understand how reasonable people discuss things?

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Comment #206673 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 4:22 pm

Joe Morealle, The Quran is not scientific. It is a statement of faith. Now, I don't believe in the Quran or the Bible. So, if that is all you have, then you have nothing but superstition. If you wish to convince me of God's existence you'll have to do more. Please provide argumentation that shows God's existence.

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Comment #206670 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 4:18 pm

Ertu, proof of God's existence please?

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Comment #206663 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 4:08 pm

Ertu, Joe Morreale, can either of you demonstrate that God exists? There is no reason to believe that God exists. Can you provide any?

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Comment #206657 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 3:59 pm

ertu, can you prove God exists? We don't believe in any scripture. If you could prove that God exists, and prove that your scripture is God's book, then you might get somewhere.

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Comment #206651 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 3:52 pm

Joe Morreale, can you prove God exists?

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Comment #206647 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 3:49 pm

ertu, do you have any proof that God exists? Do you have any proof that souls exist?

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Comment #206642 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 3:47 pm

http://www.butterfliesandwheels.com/articleprint.php?num=337

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Comment #206640 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 3:40 pm

ertu, how do you know there is a soul? Science tells us that the soul cannot exist.

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Comment #206629 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 3:20 pm

Carto, if the black gates of Morannon are open, who'll protect the hobbits from the rogering the black riders have in store for them?

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Comment #206249 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 7:39 am

Night all. Off to the land of nod. :)

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Comment #206240 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 7:33 am

ertu, can you prove God exists? You can attack evolution all you like, but that doesn't prove God exists. Please offer some argumentation. Real argumentation, not shoddy analogies of design. :)

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Comment #206233 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 7:28 am

Oktar is one sick fuck.

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Comment #206230 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 7:26 am

ertu, you're running out of chances. How about proving that God exists? Please don't say design, because there is no design without a designer. So, prove the designer, then we can talk about design.....

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Comment #206218 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 7:17 am

BillySands is SandyBills all scrambled up!

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Comment #206212 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 7:12 am

Maybe I should try:
1. Creationists are too stupid to think.
2. Creationists think they are smart.
3. Therefore God exists.

That should rate a Hovinds per Oktar squared....

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Comment #206208 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 7:08 am

So I'm never gonna get some decent argumentation for the existence of God?

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Comment #206206 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 7:06 am

ertu? unityisfact? How about you demonstrate the God exists. If you do this, we'll believe in God. If you demonstrate that God is Allah, we'll believe in the Quran. So, God please...

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Comment #206203 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 7:05 am

ertu, can you prove that God exists?

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Comment #206196 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 6:58 am

unityisfact, can you prove God exists?

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Comment #206185 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 6:50 am

Cyril was the antiQuetz! This heresy must be crushed!

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Comment #206175 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 6:40 am

OK, one the stupidity scale we have hovinds. What metric is the oktar? Perhaps performing stupid acts while blowing your own trumpet in a fit of unintended irony could be measured in hovinds/oktar (HPO) and for performing stupid acts while blowing your own trumpet in a fit of unintended irony whilst simultaneously accusing your opponent of being arrogantly ignorant, thus doubling the irony could be measured in hovinds/oktar/oktar (HPO ^ 2) Sort of a fundi version of gravity?

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Comment #206166 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 6:35 am

Al, you and your damn logic and facts!

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Comment #206159 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 6:28 am

phasmagigas, if you behave like a complete and utter fucking ass in God's name, it's all OK. :)

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Comment #206156 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 6:25 am

Philip, a few snifters of tea will ward of the nastiness of clearmind.

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Comment #206149 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 6:18 am

Mertd, can you explain the universe and life? What Mr.Adnan Oktar thinks is of no importance. He's not a scientist and has no idea about the universe. Perhaps you do?

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Comment #206144 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 6:15 am

No offense taken Quetz! I would've been offended if no one took up the invitation with that line....

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Comment #206141 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 6:13 am

clearmind my old friend. Have you seen the designer of the universe or any of his designs?

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Comment #206131 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 6:07 am

Touche Quetz :P

So did anybody find out why Richard was smitten?

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Comment #206129 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 6:04 am

Ertu, unityisfact what alternative hypothesis have you to explain how life came about? How is it that Humans and Chimpanzees have almost same DNA?

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Comment #206128 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 6:03 am

OK, sorry, I seem to be suffering from OCD these days. Everytime I come to this site someone is saying evolution is wrong and I go for my pain in the arse tactics.......

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Comment #206124 by Brian English on July 8, 2008 at 5:59 am

Wow, full moon on the RD.NET. Richard has been smitten and there's god's cowards everywhere.

Ertu, clearmind, unityisfact. Can you give any arguments for the existence of God. You can't claim a design unless you've seen the designer or its plans. Have you seen God? If so, provide evidence. If not, please demonstrate that God exists.

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Comment #205922 by Brian English on July 7, 2008 at 10:57 pm

fizhburn, can you send me a spare copy?

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Comment #205910 by Brian English on July 7, 2008 at 9:52 pm

Gregg, yes I do think you should read all of ertu's posts. You're far too intelligent as it now stands. His posts may cure that.....

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Comment #205895 by Brian English on July 7, 2008 at 8:54 pm

See ya Laurie.

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Comment #205893 by Brian English on July 7, 2008 at 8:49 pm

See ya Goldy.

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Comment #205887 by Brian English on July 7, 2008 at 8:45 pm

ertu, have you seen God designing the universe or any universe? Have you seen any of God's designs?

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Comment #205884 by Brian English on July 7, 2008 at 8:44 pm

ertu, can you please post arguments that show God exists. Do you think posting threatening arguments to people who don't believe in God will be convincing?

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Comment #205880 by Brian English on July 7, 2008 at 8:40 pm

Ertu, have you seen the designer of the universe?
Have you seen its designs?

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Comment #205868 by Brian English on July 7, 2008 at 8:32 pm

Laurie can you imagine a Silkworm just sitting about saying 'fuck it, I'm gonna be a pigeon'?

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Comment #205865 by Brian English on July 7, 2008 at 8:29 pm

ertu, can you answer these questions please?

Have you seen any designs for any animal or natural object in the universe?

Have you seen the designer?

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Comment #205860 by Brian English on July 7, 2008 at 8:26 pm

ertu, you cannot say God designed anything unless you saw God designing them. Are you so silly as to think that you can make up something like God and then say this made up person can do amazing things? Have you seen God or seen God designing anything at all?

Did you see God design the Giraffe and the plants that it eats?

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Comment #205854 by Brian English on July 7, 2008 at 8:22 pm

What all this shows is that the human body resembles a huge factory made up of many small machines that work together in perfect harmony. Just as all factories have a designer, an engineer and a planner, the human body has an Exalted Creator.

You had me till this phrase. It doesn't show that the body is like a factory at all. There is no perfect harmony, otherwise we wouldn't die and get sick.

Who builds the factories? Who designs them? People of course.

So where is this person who built the body? Have you seen him? Have you seen the designs? Have you seen any designs for anything natural in the universe? A star perhaps? A planet? Have you seen the designer? Have you seen other universes being designed?