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1101. Fleabytes

Comment #152559 by Quetzalcoatl on March 31, 2008 at 8:10 am

Steve-

Quetz - sometimes you are just simply wonderful :)


Only sometimes? :(

Seriously, thanks!

1102. Fleabytes

Comment #152555 by Quetzalcoatl on March 31, 2008 at 8:06 am

Steve-

personally, I think we should call for balance by having an atheist speak at every one of David Robertson's church services. If that didn't happen, it would be as if people were just going there to hear him give only ONE side of the debate. And that would be wrong, of course.

;-)

1103. My quest to get de-baptised

Comment #152547 by Quetzalcoatl on March 31, 2008 at 8:02 am

Anna-

oh dear. You have fallen directly into his trap. Every time.

1104. Fleabytes

Comment #152529 by Quetzalcoatl on March 31, 2008 at 7:44 am

Found this on the BBC News website, might be of interest to some:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/highlands_and_islands/7276863.stm

1105. My quest to get de-baptised

Comment #152522 by Quetzalcoatl on March 31, 2008 at 7:38 am

First of all, is that even a practical solution to circumcision?


It's certainly not a pleasant one.

1106. Beware the Believers

Comment #152498 by Quetzalcoatl on March 31, 2008 at 6:47 am

Steve-

you make a good point. Perish the thought. Of course, it's entirely possible that I was being ironic. I know, I know: it's so unlike me.

1107. My quest to get de-baptised

Comment #152444 by Quetzalcoatl on March 31, 2008 at 3:20 am

I wasn't aware that being baptised was something that actually got recorded and used in official stats. Might be wrong though.

I think I was baptised, but I'm not so worried about getting de-baptised, since the whole thing clearly didn't work to begin with!

Lee-

try teaching your son some Latin as well. That should freak the vicar out quite nicely.

1108. Beware the Believers

Comment #152431 by Quetzalcoatl on March 31, 2008 at 2:31 am

Steve-

don't forget, he gets a lot of e-mails and letters from various unnamed atheists who don't like Dawkins. Maybe one of them knows something about biology?

1109. Two More Fleas

Comment #152426 by Quetzalcoatl on March 31, 2008 at 2:19 am

Clearmind-

Self entertaining is another way to deceive yourself


I thought "self entertaining" was supposed to be a sin?

1110. Beware the Believers

Comment #152422 by Quetzalcoatl on March 31, 2008 at 2:12 am

Steve-

Clearthinker is not a believer in ID. Therefore, it must be the latter. It's always good to know that common ground can be found between the atheists and the believers.

1111. Police: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help

Comment #152019 by Quetzalcoatl on March 30, 2008 at 3:04 am

Well, I have to depart now. I'll respond to Fides' replies this evening.

1112. Police: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help

Comment #152015 by Quetzalcoatl on March 30, 2008 at 2:58 am

Fides-

but weren't the parents simply doing what the Bible says would work, by praying for their child to be healed? Faith the size of a mustard seed, moving mountains and all that? If they were wrong, why is your interpretation of the purpose of prayer more valid than their's?

1113. Police: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help

Comment #152009 by Quetzalcoatl on March 30, 2008 at 2:43 am

Well firstly-

what's your opinion on the parent's actions? Do you think they were wrong, if so- why? What does this story say about the efficacy of prayer?

1114. Police: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help

Comment #152007 by Quetzalcoatl on March 30, 2008 at 2:33 am

Fides-

If you genuinely want a discussion, 'faith head' doesn't indicate a desire to engage in constructive dialogue


Why not respond to all the others then, if Hobbit's choice of words offends you?

1115. Fleabytes

Comment #151280 by Quetzalcoatl on March 28, 2008 at 11:33 am

Rev Dark-

I'm sorry for your loss. And for the record, there was nothing even vaguely Robertson-like about it.

1116. Police: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help

Comment #151158 by Quetzalcoatl on March 28, 2008 at 8:07 am

Epeeist-

I found that site a couple of days ago from a link on the WDH site. Check out this page-

http://www.unleavenedbreadministries.org/?page=dreamsvisions

A nice excerpt from one of the "prophecies"-

The next thing I saw was what looked like black arrows being released by black demonic spirits. These black demons come upon these people in their social function--within the church. These black demons started attacking these people. These people started grabbing their heads as these demons attacked. They started going crazy. They could not handle the demonic pressures and forces of these demonic powers in the last days! I had the sense that there would be those that would say they were Christians, born again, yet would be committed to mental institutions. They would go in for psychiatric care because they could not cope with what was coming upon the earth


Rapture-ready and bat-shit crazy, every one of them.

EDIT- I question your definition of Ben Stein as a third-rate actor. That's too high.

1117. Police: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help

Comment #151145 by Quetzalcoatl on March 28, 2008 at 7:44 am

They're by no means the only ones who think like this- check out the views of this preacher who has come out in defence of them.

http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080328/WDH0101/803280742/1581/WDHnews

1118. Fleabytes

Comment #151125 by Quetzalcoatl on March 28, 2008 at 7:24 am

_J_-

"And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, 'Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat, but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.'" - Genesis 2:16-17


Ah, I think this means that Adam would die that day! If God meant spiritual death, or death 900 years later, why not say so?

Stolen from here-

God's First Lie

1119. Fleabytes

Comment #151079 by Quetzalcoatl on March 28, 2008 at 6:11 am

Clodhopper-

*Pocket Bible....WTF*


Keep it with you. You never know when nature might call and the nearest public toilet will be out of paper... :)

1120. Fleabytes

Comment #151038 by Quetzalcoatl on March 28, 2008 at 3:56 am

Steve-

Well that kind of puts an end to theology


Never mind. I'm sure the theologians will be able to find new work, considering their large skill set.

1121. Fleabytes

Comment #151036 by Quetzalcoatl on March 28, 2008 at 3:48 am

Steve-

If it is sinful, then he isn't perfect.
If it isn't sinful, then he is a hypocrite, which is sinful, so he isn't perfect


I'm going to try and get into a religious mindset...I can feel my brain cells dying.

Anyway. Perhaps God is not a hypocrite, since he is a higher being, and his ways are beyond ours. We are imperfect, and should not lie. But God is perfect. And being perfect means knowing when lieing is necessary. But since he does so to accomplish his plan, which is perfect, and everything he does is perfect, then he cannot be a hypocrite, since that is imperfect. It is just that we, with our limited minds, cannot comprehend it.

1122. Fleabytes

Comment #151031 by Quetzalcoatl on March 28, 2008 at 3:40 am

Irate-

What do accountants use as a contraceptive?


Their personalities.

(Except me, ladies).

1123. Fleabytes

Comment #151028 by Quetzalcoatl on March 28, 2008 at 3:36 am

But is it sinful for God to lie? What with him being perfect, and all.

1124. Fleabytes

Comment #151026 by Quetzalcoatl on March 28, 2008 at 3:31 am

Doesn't that depend on whether you define "perfect" as being someone who doesn't lie? Being perfect and telling lies are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

1125. Fleabytes

Comment #151019 by Quetzalcoatl on March 28, 2008 at 3:18 am

Steve-

So, you aren't an atheist?


I am. I don't believe I'm a god. I know it. I just don't believe in any other gods.

1126. Fleabytes

Comment #151018 by Quetzalcoatl on March 28, 2008 at 3:14 am

Since the thread is quiet at the moment, this seems like an excellent opportunity to indulge in some shameless self-promotion:

http://musingsofastrangemind.blogspot.com/

1127. Fleabytes

Comment #151016 by Quetzalcoatl on March 28, 2008 at 3:12 am

But RD.net has a god. -Points at himself-

1128. Fleabytes

Comment #150899 by Quetzalcoatl on March 27, 2008 at 2:31 pm

Anna-

Symbiotic with a large amount of parasitism as well. And a large portion of attempting to judiciously screw each other wherever possible. Not very biological, but hey, I'm an accountant.

Edit- yes, good analogy.

1129. Fleabytes

Comment #150886 by Quetzalcoatl on March 27, 2008 at 2:06 pm

Anna-

I think that means that China could completely trash the US economy if it wanted to, by dumping their dollar reserves. Of course, crippling the dollar would also royally screw much of the rest of the world's economy, so they probably won't do that.

EDIT- I see al-rawandi has said much the same thing. Never mind. -Wanders off-

1130. Fleabytes

Comment #150727 by Quetzalcoatl on March 27, 2008 at 10:20 am

Epeeist-

if wedding cakes are anti-aphrodisiac, what do Christmas puddings do?

1131. Fleabytes

Comment #150701 by Quetzalcoatl on March 27, 2008 at 9:24 am

Anna-

Although, depending on what I had said in place of an ellipsis, it could have caused the imaginations to go soaring anyway. ;-)


Is this a bad time to mention that I've always been considered particularly imaginative?

1132. Fleabytes

Comment #150698 by Quetzalcoatl on March 27, 2008 at 9:16 am

Anna-

Precisely why I ended that sentence with an ellipsis and did not continue on.


But that just left it open to everyone's imagination. Which, judging by the people who post here, may not have been the best idea.

1133. Fleabytes

Comment #150684 by Quetzalcoatl on March 27, 2008 at 8:58 am

RichardMorgan-

welcome aboard! You're just in time!


So I see.

Anna-

Although, hitting me with a rolled up newspaper might not necessarily discourage my behavior...


You learn something new every day ;)

Off topic-

And I read it. I'll comment on your newest post on yours later on, hopefully.

1134. Fleabytes

Comment #150677 by Quetzalcoatl on March 27, 2008 at 8:48 am

Bad Anna, Bad!

Where is my rolled up newspaper?


I feel like this thread may be about to wander off into what can only be described as a weird area.

1135. Fleabytes

Comment #150534 by Quetzalcoatl on March 27, 2008 at 4:34 am

Irate-

I object to these odds! Why the hell are Zeus and Thor ahead of me? Which of them has ever posted on the Internet, thus confirming their existence? Neither of them.

And my book is far superior to whatever drivel they have.

1136. Police: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help

Comment #150501 by Quetzalcoatl on March 27, 2008 at 2:56 am

Update-

a transcript of the Aunt's 911 call. In the comments it says that the other children have been removed from the home and are being interviewed by Child Protective Services.

http://www.wausaudailyherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080326/WDH0101/80326147/1981

1137. Saudi Arabia Leader Calls for Interfaith Dialogue

Comment #149908 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 10:26 am

BrianL-

the article's from the Christian Post: hardly a beacon of tolerance for atheism and secularists.

1138. Happy Birthday, Richard Dawkins!

Comment #149860 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 9:58 am

I'll just be traditional:

Happy Birthday, Richard Dawkins!

1139. Fleabytes

Comment #149818 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 9:00 am

Annabanana-

probably best not to worry about it, then.

1140. Fleabytes

Comment #149808 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 8:46 am

Annabanana-

leave that for the scholarly priests, ministers, pastors, etc.


Ah, but of which denomination?

Off topic-

left a comment on your blog.

1141. Police: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help

Comment #149805 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 8:44 am

Irate-

I'll take those odds. Cynicism has always served me well. And it tells me that it's so much easier to be pious when you're not the one doubled over in agony.

1142. Police: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help

Comment #149798 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 8:33 am

A cynical person might wonder whether the parents would be so eager to trust in the power of prayer if they were the ones suffering from illness. For instance, from the sickening agony of a burst appendix. How keen would they then be to put their faith in God over modern medicine?

1143. Police: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help

Comment #149771 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 8:12 am

My thoughts on this and the article Tyler found:

http://musingsofastrangemind.blogspot.com/2008/03/power-of-prayer.html

Probably the most I've sworn in a blog post.

1144. Fleabytes

Comment #149741 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 7:41 am

The Reverend Dark-

perhaps everyone would have more respect for Seagal if he was an action hero that was actually prepared to get hit in his films. I've seen a lot of his films where he doesn't get so much as a scratch. He's a pansy.

1145. Police: Girl Dies After Parents Pray for Healing Instead of Seeking Medical Help

Comment #149733 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 7:36 am

This is a prime example of the stupidity of much of religion. With faith you can move mountains, prayer can heal the ill. Then when people who actually believe that crap try it, this is what happens. Shameful.

The girl has three siblings, ranging in age from 13 to 16, the police chief said.

"They are still in the home," he said. "There is no reason to remove them. There is no abuse or signs of abuse that we can see."


Just wait until one of them gets ill.

JemyM-

they're not evil, just very, very stupid.

1146. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #149663 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 4:42 am

Corylus-

better you than Ratzinger!

1147. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #149660 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 4:36 am

Clearmind-

what a load of drivel.

1148. Wicked untruths from the Church

Comment #149649 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 3:45 am

Steve-

It can allow for those


So then you wouldn't be able to say that it "points the way", would you?

1149. Wicked untruths from the Church

Comment #149643 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 3:33 am

Steve-

do you feel that a belief in the Mayan Snake God would be of assistance here


I certainly do!

1150. Wicked untruths from the Church

Comment #149635 by Quetzalcoatl on March 26, 2008 at 3:07 am

Irate-

We have no good reason to believe that it was intelligently designed


Agreed. There is no evidence of irreducible complexity; or any complexity at all, for that matter.

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