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1251. Fleabytes

Comment #138659 by Goldy on March 4, 2008 at 4:59 pm

5. The laws of phyisics just happened - yeah right!

I am assuming you're saying they didn't. Yet God always was...
I am confused. You don't believe physics alwasy was, yet I know you believe God always was. Why/how?
Genuinely interested :-)

1252. Bulldozers tear down giant religious teapot

Comment #138589 by Goldy on March 4, 2008 at 3:13 pm

Muslims have a strong history of flailing away at offensive structures.


All the male date palms in al-'Uyayna were felled by Muhammad Ibn Abd al-Wahhab because people thought the trees would bring fertility.

Dare say some are worse than others. Saudis are particularly virulent, even to the extent of destroying anything to do with Mohammed in case it becomes a shrine (which, I suppose, could be seen as idolatory).
There was an article once in the NYT about Afghans making pilgramges to Mujahideen graves - seems they felt it was lucky or something.
Just read this, though...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/world/middleeast/04youth.html?_r=1&ref=world&oref=slogin
Seems one can go too far down the religious path and turn the followers away :-) Maybe there is hope for Islam after all. And one has to think why Europe is so much less religious than in earlier times...

1253. US Treaty with Tripoli

Comment #138491 by Goldy on March 4, 2008 at 12:41 pm

Oh and Goldy - long ago I had to write an essay (like the rest of the group I was in) on chirality in molecular structures. I spelt "asymmetry" wrongly every time. Lecturer knocked a mark off for every misspelling. I, like many others in my class, got a negative mark.

Epeeist, I used to do that too when I was marking practicals.
Seems Britain doesn't need a written constitution, if the above is anything to go by. Never heard any arguments there about things. Did get this from a friend, which summed up what Britains are pissed off about...
http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/driving/jeremy_clarkson/article3458585.ece?OTC-HPtoppuff&ATTR=bl3
Good to see the quality of argumetns have dramatically increased since last night.
MMP - proportional representation. What NZ has. Must be good - politicians keep telling us it is great. And we know they never lie...

1254. Bulldozers tear down giant religious teapot

Comment #138482 by Goldy on March 4, 2008 at 12:31 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7265404.stm
Some background reading regarding the role of religion in Malaysia, especially Islam.

1255. Fleas on the Horizon: In Defense of God

Comment #137993 by Goldy on March 3, 2008 at 6:03 pm

Henry VIII was an early flea :-) He did it for...hmmm, why did he do it? Anyway, didn;t help him much - the pope wouldn't let him divorce and look how all that ended up!
Defend faith all you like, fleas. It doesn't always thank you in ways you'd wish.

1256. US Treaty with Tripoli

Comment #137991 by Goldy on March 3, 2008 at 6:00 pm

Goldy Do you mean my twig and berries?

Twigs and berries (twig? - never get a Kiwi bloke to call his by that name!), meat and 2 veg, rod and tackle....
Man, one can have fun with this!

1257. US Treaty with Tripoli

Comment #137933 by Goldy on March 3, 2008 at 3:38 pm

Also called knackers, BTW

1258. US Treaty with Tripoli

Comment #137932 by Goldy on March 3, 2008 at 3:35 pm

Goldy
It was a joke

;-) I just wanted to write bollocks again :-)

It is something I get told everyday by students and I always refute it.
And what are bollocks

You forgot the ? ;-) I assume you are a bloke. Reach down, you'll find, under the penis, a sack containing two pride and joys, two wee grapes that must be protected, the beans in the pod.... sorry, I'll stop.
Testicles.

1259. US Treaty with Tripoli

Comment #137931 by Goldy on March 3, 2008 at 3:33 pm

You are effectively writing off a lot of good thoughful people, who may happen to have had a difficult education process, as impolite. I think that is unfair.

One can write using spellcheck - computers have a lot of functions to hide difficulties. I myself always seem to write teh and adn, among other typos.
I would think a good thoughtful person would make an effort and read over what they had written. One could, I am sure, see the thought in their words.

1260. US Treaty with Tripoli

Comment #137923 by Goldy on March 3, 2008 at 3:26 pm

"Spelling correctly is for folks who are too dumb to think for themselves and can only memorize things"

What utter bollocks.

1261. US Treaty with Tripoli

Comment #137917 by Goldy on March 3, 2008 at 3:24 pm

Goldy, you are correct

Cheers Anna :-) I know about y'all, y'know (or, if you're a Geordie, y'kna. As a Yorkshireman, it is tha nose [phonetic]).
I'm also a bit of a pedant on grammar, spelling etc, but as I work with students, both under and postgrad, it's slowly being knocked out of me. I still draw the line at SMS spelling. I tend to just skip over poorly written pieces. If one can't be arsed to write properly, I will not be arsed to read. I will accept regionalisms, though.
Goldy
"Y'all", methinks :-D
Thank you would have been fine

Que? No, please, no need to thank me :-)
but I blame it on the English language since there isn't a word for addressing more than one person directly.

I use "people". But I like y'all. Mind you, strictly speaking it is 2 words.
I am only anal when a discussion degrades into name calling and bitch slapping. I try and divert the dumbassery into something else to see if we can get back to meaningful discourse. After all, I can see and hear as much bollocks as I want in the cafeteria downstairs.

1262. US Treaty with Tripoli

Comment #137792 by Goldy on March 3, 2008 at 1:37 pm

Ste5e

Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen...

Think this may refer to New Zealanders...the green lipped mussel industry is rather important.. ;-)
Jay
All ya'lls friend Jay

"Y'all", methinks :-D

1263. Darwin's dangerous idea

Comment #137746 by Goldy on March 3, 2008 at 12:35 pm

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=82&objectid=10495940
With luck, we may be able to find out how we fast we recently evolved - interesting article above.

1264. Feb 12th: Happy Darwin Day!

Comment #137740 by Goldy on March 3, 2008 at 12:24 pm

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=82&objectid=10495940
How evolution is followed - for those who don't seem to quite grasp the process...

1265. US Treaty with Tripoli

Comment #137737 by Goldy on March 3, 2008 at 12:19 pm

Would this treaty be valid today? Or when Gadafi was bombed?

1266. US Treaty with Tripoli

Comment #137731 by Goldy on March 3, 2008 at 12:10 pm

So, about this treaty then....

1267. Fleabytes

Comment #137209 by Goldy on March 2, 2008 at 2:13 pm

You only think that the text has been rewritten a number of times is because you have been told that. I have seen no evidence for that.

Spot the inconsistencies...
1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

1:10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

1:19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

1:22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

1:23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

2:5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. (D'Oh!)

2:6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. (AFTER day seven - and God already made men and women...yet this is the first man?)

2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

2:9 And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil . (Smart! Can't see the harm in that...)

2:10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.

2:11 The name of the first is Pison: that is it which compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where there is gold;

2:12 And the gold of that land is good: there is bdellium and the onyx stone.

2:13 And the name of the second river is Gihon: the same is it that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.

2:14 And the name of the third river is Hiddekel: that is it which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river is Euphrates.

2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. (Errr, what about the other men and women?)

2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him.

2:21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;

2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. (Not terribly PC....)

2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

2:25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed

And so on and so forth for a few more myths...

1268. Fleabytes

Comment #137203 by Goldy on March 2, 2008 at 2:04 pm

Monday morning and back at work :-) Sold my house, soon move into new house - i'm feeling good.
Thought I'd drop by and see how things are. I see things are as fun now as they were before :-)
Hello, you asked which scientific advance - how's about evolution - seems to have rattled the Christian cages, eh? Or are you monumentally stupid? Hmmm, don't answer that - I think I know the answer :-) (Luckily, like most trolls, you never answer questions...)

1269. US Treaty with Tripoli

Comment #136169 by Goldy on February 29, 2008 at 1:49 pm

Based on this I wouldn't have thought of Cecil as anything else but an artifact.

At first I thought it was tackle, but then, as you say, this was mentioned and so it had to be detachable. I have to admit to thinking it was a rather intricate codpiece...

1270. Fleabytes

Comment #136162 by Goldy on February 29, 2008 at 1:45 pm

If non-belief in God requires justification, you are going to be busy. For there are thousands of gods you do not accept.

30 thousand in India, I believe I read. Golly, you're going to be busy!

1271. Fleabytes

Comment #136123 by Goldy on February 29, 2008 at 1:18 pm

It is like a Chinese wave attack. No matter how many you shoot from your machine gun nest, they continue coming over the hill.
More like stomping on moles...


Still waiting for a single solitary god to show up. think I'll have a shit,a shower and a shave adn get on with life for a while and come back tonight.

Should a god show up, I shall be convinced. Of course, I'll have to ask if it is a true god adn why I should believe that god over the other gods that may appear.

Should be fun!

1272. US Treaty with Tripoli

Comment #136098 by Goldy on February 29, 2008 at 1:11 pm

A study on this thread could be called "From seamen to semen."

Oh dear, my gut hurts now! Tears stream down my face!
I only wear the thigh boots and get Cecil out on special occasions. I wouldn't want anyone to think that I habitually stalk the streets of Oxford in revealing fetish attire with a fork-firing crossbow...

Dunno which would be more fightning, meeting you in your fetish gear or actually being able to say I know you as you strut your stuff! What would my friends think?

1273. Fleabytes

Comment #136087 by Goldy on February 29, 2008 at 1:06 pm

Atheism is the POSITIVE assertion that there is no god therefore the atheist must provide evidence for that belief.

OK, show me your god.


waiting...


Still waiting......


Still waiting......

*Looks at watch, yawns, scratches balls*


Nothing? Hmmm.....

Right, point proven. Next!

1274. Fleabytes

Comment #136081 by Goldy on February 29, 2008 at 1:03 pm

How annoying, the best post happen while I am a-bed!
Love the "God doesn't exclude people" line by this hello feller. No shit - gods don't exist. However, people who follow gods. People act in their gods name, ergo gods do exclude people because the people do the excluding in their gods name.
Saying what their gods do and doing things in their gods name are two completely different things.

1275. US Treaty with Tripoli

Comment #136059 by Goldy on February 29, 2008 at 12:51 pm

But I do not necessarily object to allowing people to have handguns. I am yet to be convinced of how many gun crimes are committed with registered guns

Registering is a legal requirement - legality is not, as I can tell, a criminal concern.
Didn't gun crime go UP in the UK after guns were banned?
Not that I have ever had anything bigger than my .177 air rifle at home. My wife wouldn't mind a pistol but that's mostly because she used to shoot competitively.
Carto, I wouldn't mind the Latin poetry. However, I am not gay and I am married which I think are largish obstacles. And NZ is a bugger (pardon the pun!) of a flight away! Trust me on this :-)
Regarding the state not rescinding constrictive prohibitions - I believe the 70mph limit on the motorways in Britain was temporary. The old licensing hours were meant for the first world war. As Al says, governments, even those picked by the people, have a bad record of keeping temporary laws thus...
Pissing with rain today and our house is up for auction. Interest rates have gone up, buyers are wary, doom and gloom in the news...I am not hopeful :-(

1276. Fleabytes

Comment #135461 by Goldy on February 29, 2008 at 2:09 am

Epeeist

Lots of cannibalism in Greek mythology

Egad - more?? Oh, Ok then :-) Reading the Iliad to my daughter as a goodnight story. Helps her sleep, but not because of the story. Soon there's Fairy tales from the British Isles :-) Lots of good stories there - hidden cannibalism, bigamy etc....
Hope she grows up OK...

1277. Turkey in radical revision of Islamic texts

Comment #135451 by Goldy on February 29, 2008 at 1:53 am

I am watching a documentary about Christians and Muslims in Nigeria and all I can think of is....silly buggers! If there was no religion..but that will never happen. Bloody silly buggers!

1278. Fleabytes

Comment #135286 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 7:28 pm

Faster than a speeding louse, capable of raising the heckles of hell-bound atheists. It's Nutter from the Isles!

Still not doing it for me.

Yeah - still got that thing in my head. Everytime I read his posts, all I can think is "Fucking idiot"
DR being the opposite of RD, maybe we can make a play with the initials....

1279. Fleabytes

Comment #135278 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 7:20 pm

I know! How about the Nutter from the Isles?

1280. Fleabytes

Comment #135277 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 7:19 pm

Let's see:
Superman, Batman, the Flash, Fucking idiot....
Sorry, it probably won't get a run with the young'uns and become popular. At least not in OZ. You can't use fuck on TV till after 9pm.....

Hmmm, OK... Krypto Phuq, the Greased Eel?

1281. Fleabytes

Comment #135272 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 7:16 pm

What name should we give to our defender of the faith? Super Flea?

Fucking idiot is all I can think of.

1282. Dispatches: Holy Offensive

Comment #135271 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 7:14 pm

Is anyone on this thread British, and if so, would you describe "religious offensives" this dramatic on a frequent scale, meaning seen almost daily?

Hmmm. I am British, but been in NZ for the last 6 years. When I was there, being religious was a bit suspect. Odd people are overly religious. Even my Christadelphian friend kept mum on the matter.
what is a must do in England. As I will only be there for 2 days and spend the rest of the 2 weeks in Paris and Rome. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Where will you be? London is pretty large - you can spend all day there visiting musea and the like. Avebury is kinda cool if you can spend a day going way out west. Stonehenge but bigger, with Silbury hill a shortish walk away and the tomb (forgets the name) not that much further. Or go to Brighton to see what tacky really means ;-) Pubs in the evening followed by a curry.

1283. Fleabytes

Comment #135264 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 7:07 pm

Goldy. Richard Branson is the devil. He's seducing young'uns away from Jesus.
You reckon? The following sentence suggests he IS Jesus
The bearded hippie-made-good was knighted in 2000 for services to entrepreneurship.

Bearded hippie - Jesus....hmmm!

1284. Earth's Final Sunset Predicted

Comment #135262 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 7:05 pm

Ship it to Titan, the moon of Saturn.

Hmmm, good idea. Good job you're around! Now, where's that intergalactic mover's number and what are their domestic prices...

1285. Fleabytes

Comment #135255 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 7:00 pm

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/2/story.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10495326
Seem's the Flea's right hand buddy has competition for the minds of the young...

1286. Earth's Final Sunset Predicted

Comment #135254 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 6:56 pm

We have a lot more to worry about before then

Dammit! What am I going to do with this bulk order of sunscreen from the Auckland Cancer Society then? ;-)

1287. Taking evidence seriously

Comment #135251 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 6:54 pm

I routinely hear people telling me they have a cold or the flu, and they're taking antibiotics for it. I ask them, "Do you have a bacterial infection? You do know that antibiotics are completely useless against viruses, right?"

From what I have heard it is routinely given for colds in China.

1288. Fleabytes

Comment #135245 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 6:44 pm

*Apologies to anybody who's now suffering from that mental image.

My mind has been soiled!

1289. Fleabytes

Comment #135231 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 6:26 pm

That of course, being the Wayland Smithers of the cosmic Monty Burns for a googleplexillion years

Tears roll down my cheeks when I read this. Aaaah :-) Or should that be "Exccccelllent!"

1290. Fleabytes

Comment #135225 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 6:20 pm

You are a bad man

Well, that's not going to fuel his persecution complex now, is it? ;-)
Actually, it'd probably make him feel great. He's bad, ergo a sinner, ergo he has reason for praying, for Ned Flandering his god with messages of "what must I do, Lord?" to try for a spot in his idea of heaven.

1291. Turkey in radical revision of Islamic texts

Comment #135207 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 5:49 pm

Letter in the Independent...

Islam demands respect for women

Sir: It is deeply saddening to hear cases of domestic violence against Muslim women (letter, 21 February). It should be clear to those who commit such acts, as well as to those who blame Islam for it, that they have no sanction whatsoever within sharia.

The life of Muhammad is in itself a verdict upon the matter, where each member of the family was always treated with utter kindness and respect and not one example of physical punishment was ever recorded. His sayings include: "The more civil and the kinder a Muslim is to his wife, the more perfect of faith he is."

A closer look at the instances of domestic violence will reveal cultural and personality problems as the root causes rather than partially quoted Quranic verses (letters, 11 February). I say this because I belong to a Muslim community who believe in every single verse of the Quran, and where women are well educated and lead fulfilling lives, seeing Islam as liberating rather than repressive.

Naveed Malik

Coventry

So, mistreatment of women is unIslamic. How very circular this argument gets!

1292. Fleabytes

Comment #135182 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 4:49 pm

Here you are, Brian. My mind is a veritable repository of useless facts - much of it not indexed but shoved willy-nilly into the synaptic shelves to gather dust...
http://www.organicconsumers.org/madcow/cannibalism6301.cfm
And
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fore_(people)

1293. Fleabytes

Comment #135177 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 4:40 pm

Brian, did I read about some cannibalistic practices in PNG regarding recently deceased family members? hmmm - have to look into that. Think it was linked to incidences of CJD like diseases prevalent in that area.
Here's an article I found interesting - when fleas get their wishes :-) Slightly scary, given the date....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/28/nwitch128.xml

1294. Feb 12th: Happy Darwin Day!

Comment #135176 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 4:34 pm

Something for Wooter and Shmeezers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/02/28/scicreation128.xml
Shmeezers, you can now probably understand my ire at some of your earlier comments...

1295. US Treaty with Tripoli

Comment #135157 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 3:39 pm

Wasn't this treaty trying to stop Barbary pirates taking slaves? I hear they were far ranging...

1296. Turkey in radical revision of Islamic texts

Comment #135155 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 3:36 pm

That's the problem everywhere, isn't it... radical fundamentalist mentality

It is. Mind you, I think it is beyond even religion - it is some cultural thing from way back, probably before gods.
I'm not 100% sure of the integration of Turks and Yugoslavs (well, the constituents of what was Yugoslavia now) where my mother's from (in Tirol). I know a large family live where the butcher used to, in apartments. They have Turkish flags, Turkish music and I dare say it is Turkey inside (but hey, who am I to say anything - I am English here in NZ, listen to the BBC, speak English, support English teams...). I wonder how the children are, if they have a range of nationalities in their schoolfriends or if they segregate.
Sad, isn't it? We travel and settle like no time since the fall of Rome and yet it's like oil on water when it comes to integration.

1297. Fleabytes

Comment #135154 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 3:29 pm

Brian, your mention of disgust with regards to Levi brought to maind a BBC doco I heard on teh World Service...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/mind/articles/emotions/disgust.shtml

1298. Turkey in radical revision of Islamic texts

Comment #135142 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 3:15 pm

BBC article about German muslims. Hopefully the Turkish theologians can get this issue cleared up...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/7268701.stm

1299. Turkey in radical revision of Islamic texts

Comment #135063 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 1:45 pm

MPhil, call me oldfashioned ;-) And out of touch...so much to read, so little time, so much to learn and so little inclination :-(

1300. Fleabytes

Comment #135061 by Goldy on February 28, 2008 at 1:43 pm

Proof: Deut 23:2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD

Tenth generation as well.... man, that's strict....

Well...what can I say? What a bastard!

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