1251. The God of the Bible is No Delusion!

Comment #11807 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on December 7, 2006 at 12:50 pm

In the chapter I was reading the other night, Micah 3, God tells us that there will be a long period when basically he will not communicate directly with us.

You are satisfied with that are you? The bible, the word of god (on its own recommendation), has an obscure passage that talks about communication and thats sorted for you? I'd need a little more.

Even if the passage as you understand it were applicable, it hardly gets god off the hook. In summary it's simply, I'm crap at communication because I said I would be. WTF?? You'll need to do much better than that.

Billions will die and go to hell (by your reckoning), simply by virtue of the blind chance of their birth. Surely god has failed these people? Why would you respect, let alone worship such a maleovlent, despicable entity?

1252. The God of the Bible is No Delusion!

Comment #11790 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on December 7, 2006 at 11:20 am

In the meantime could we stop calling all the religious people intellectual retards? Some of them may be but not all.

As a previous beleiver I agree. However, guys like Shaunyboy who come to a site like this replete with overwhelming evidence that religion is nonsense, deserve no respect whatever. They may not all be retards, but they are all in the grip of a clear delusion to those on the outside looking in.

God cannot be both omnibenevolent, and omnipowerful, and whether an entity approximating the monotheistic god exists or not, he certainly doesn't deserve worship. A savage, uncompromising kick up the arse maybe for making such an amazing shit of things.

1253. The God of the Bible is No Delusion!

Comment #11784 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on December 7, 2006 at 10:48 am

Ahhh Shauntheboy, still talking nonsense, while dodging the real questions. You truly are a piece of fascinating psycology.

Billy, you are wasting your time with this one, he is clearly a hardcore "faith head".

1254. The God of the Bible is No Delusion!

Comment #11723 by briancoughlanworldcitizen on December 6, 2006 at 10:42 pm

I sincerely hope these are not misquotes. I have put the full reference including the page number so that you can check up on me if you like. I have these books in my personal library and they are well thumbed I assure you.

Rubbish, I've seen the same pap 10 different ways, you are about as sincere as the "give it to me baby" of a $10 whore:-) I challenge you to publish the paragraph either side of your quotes, I'm not your research assistant!!!

The influence of Greek and other philosophy on mainstream, (and even small sect!) Christianity is pretty well documented. I certainly don't believe I have any special revelation or any sole ownership of truth.

So what you beleive as a Christian is not absolute? You just think it might be true? You muddle along hoping you've got it right, and everyone else can do whatever they think is best as regards salvation and so forth? Pull the other one:-)

While you are floundering on that question, how about the "why is god such a poor communicator?" question. I have yet to hear from any of the religious types on this. It's simple question, 2000 years after christ, and 1300 after big M., we still have utter confusion and disagreement about the properties of god.

How can you consider such an incompetent worthy of respect, let alone "god"?

However, my point has never been to lecture you about God, the only time I have ever discussed God with you is when you have asked a question that relates to Him or His purpose.

What on earth could you know about this stuff? What could anyone? You don't consider your arrogant, condescending "relates to Him or His purpose" lecturing? You have a bit of a tin ear there guy:-)

There is no verifiable evidence to support an evolutionary mechanism capable of producing the diversity, complexity and interdepence we see in the natural world, and the cosmos.

Once again your staggering, towering arrogance shines through. Who are you? What have you published? Why should I consider your comments more reliable than an established scientist like Dawkins, or any scientist at all?

I am not an expert on evolution, in point of fact there is tons of stuff that I am not an expert on. So I take my lead on complex subjects from people who are experts in the relevant field. The bible has been ripped to shreds as an authorative source on anything, including history! Arguably it's strongest suit. So please ..... I'd be mad to base my life on something so wrong, on so many fronts.

Shaunyboy, you have it exactly ass backwards. You base your life on the bible, and then try and crowbar the available evidence into that impoverished framework.

It is pathetic and sad, not least because a cursory glance at the rampant injustice in our world invalidates the claim of any god whatever to omnipotence and omnibenevolence at a single stroke. Evolution is not your problem, really. Your whole premise is flawed.