1351. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #166658 by al-rawandi on April 23, 2008 at 11:18 am

TheTruthID,




I believe what there is evidence for. There is evidence for evolution by natural selection, there is no evidence for design, aside from your feeble misunderstanding of evolution.

What does bother me is the impossible odds of a god having existed for ever, and he cares whether I masturbate or not. That is what bothers me.

1352. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #166641 by al-rawandi on April 23, 2008 at 11:06 am

I give up.



This person is determined to maintain his current affliction of recto-crannial inversion.


All,


Enjoy explaining calculus to a monkey.

1353. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #166631 by al-rawandi on April 23, 2008 at 10:55 am

TheTruthID,




Why the language? Because you refuse to answer questions in any way that might be considered reasonable. You refuse to posit any positive position. You continue to constantly shift your critique, never lingering long enough to answer a point.

You may not know this, but every single ID/Theist?Christian who comes here does the exact same thing. You are as common as a sea gull at the beach. So you will have to excuse us for getting annoyed at your anti-logic.

And you will have to answer some substantive questions, along with positing a point of your own.

As for the tail bone etc... It is interesting that God's mysterious ways always seem to turn out looking like a lack of design. And precisely like what evolution by natural selection would look like.

So far your basic argument is.... "This is really complex, therefore God." Ok... "God is very complex, therefore God 2".

Your argument's premise makes it fall flat on its face. Now keep your dirty mits off of my posts.

1354. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #166613 by al-rawandi on April 23, 2008 at 10:43 am

Is there some reason my comment was moved to the alternate comment thread?


Along with Anna's from earlier on?

1355. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #166603 by al-rawandi on April 23, 2008 at 10:37 am

TheTruthID,




Answer the query.

If I am designed, how come I have an appendix and tailbone?

You are the usual anti-science dumb ass.

A total fucktard with no ability to rationally answer any question. You can only play the "well evolution doesn't make sense here" card. When it is explained to you, you simply move on, without comment, to the next gap where you try to insert god sans evidence.

When asked for a positive position you simply reply with more useless and inaccurate posts. I really have to ask if you are mentally impaired. Why can you not answer a question, provide evidence, or respond to a well worded answer to any of your childish queries?

1356. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #166567 by al-rawandi on April 23, 2008 at 10:00 am

TheTruthID,




The universe is designed, I see it now. Just clear up a couple of things.


1) Why do I have an appendix?
2) Why do I have a tail bone (I seemed to have lost my tail)?
3) Why does my eye have a blind spot?
4) Why do I have wisdom teeth?


Thanks!

1357. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #166555 by al-rawandi on April 23, 2008 at 9:53 am

The Truth ID,



Are you a Christian or not?

1358. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #166548 by al-rawandi on April 23, 2008 at 9:51 am

TruthID,



OK I will go first.


These masturbator donkeys have existed forever. They are the source of all life and matter. The gasses we find in the universe are actually the process of the donkeys breaking wind at the outset of the universe, what the Darwinist Nazis call the "Big Bang".

Well, we have donkeys on earth today, so a common criticism is that humans simply worship the masturator donkeys because we have donkeys here on earth. Incorrect. The donkeys here on earth are not the same. The masturbator donkeys are actually of infinite intellect and live in a fraggle rock like sky palace.

The Masturbator Donkeys, have sent donkeys to earth (created about 10,000 years ago, specifically for donkeys and people) to show us the value of determination and stubborness in belief.

And then the greatest of all blasphemous productions was Shrek (all of them) where the donkey was portrayed as foolish. This is unfair, and one more instance of atheists in the movie industry out to get me for my beliefs, which you cannot disprove.


Your turn.

1359. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #166540 by al-rawandi on April 23, 2008 at 9:45 am

TheTruthID,




So how do you know this is a god, and more specifically an Abrahamic or more specifically a Christian god (I am going way out on a limb in assuming you are some sort of Christian).

I like to think, if anything, it is a race of interstellar masturbator donkeys, who live outside of our universe in a place like Fraggle Rock.

Let's start producing evidence for each of our theories and determine which is more plausible.

1360. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #166525 by al-rawandi on April 23, 2008 at 9:36 am

Remnant,




Drink the damn poison already...


mark 16:18 and Luke 10:9. Don't tell me you don't know the Bible. I would be devestated.

1361. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #166521 by al-rawandi on April 23, 2008 at 9:35 am

Hey are we done talking about Anna now?


Why is it that every loser theist feels it necessary to comment on her avatar. Who gives a shit what she looks like. If you glance to the right of the avatar, lo and behold there are words there... What do the fucking words say?... ass clowns.

1362. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #166512 by al-rawandi on April 23, 2008 at 9:31 am

remnant,



I have provided a way to test the reality of the sayings of Jesus. Mark 16:18 and Luke 10:9 both say you can drink poison and be unharmed so long as you are a "follower" of Christ.


I have challenged you to proove your faith in the risen lord, and you haven't even answered. Why did you not answer? I will just assume it is a lack of conviction.

1363. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #166484 by al-rawandi on April 23, 2008 at 9:12 am

Irate,




Lotions up the hand.... waves the arguments away.
Requires a computer with internet access and sound card.

1364. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #166463 by al-rawandi on April 23, 2008 at 9:00 am

remnant,



You choose to follow Jesus?


Read Mark 16:18 and Luke 10:19. Then I expect you to post a video of you handling a cobra and drinking drano. Then a video of the next day where you are just fine.


I eagerly await this test of your faith. You could also use some other astringent and a rattlesnake... details are not important. Thanks.


-Duffman

1365. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #166444 by al-rawandi on April 23, 2008 at 8:51 am

MPhil,




The guy trusts Jesus huh?


Well what about Luke 10:19 and Matthew 16:18 where Jesus says his followers can drink poison unharmed?

I think we might find a parting of ways on this point!

1366. Responses to 'Gods and Earthlings' by Richard Dawkins

Comment #166414 by al-rawandi on April 23, 2008 at 8:28 am

quetz,


I meant temperature. But I may revise that to include the latter.

1367. Responses to 'Gods and Earthlings' by Richard Dawkins

Comment #166390 by al-rawandi on April 23, 2008 at 8:04 am

Anyone care to weigh in on global dimming?

1368. Mecca should become core to measure time zones: scholars

Comment #165504 by al-rawandi on April 21, 2008 at 2:30 pm

Lucas,




As an infidel you cannot go to Mecca.



Sorry.

1369. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #165464 by al-rawandi on April 21, 2008 at 1:46 pm

Quine,





You can't use the Sorites Paradox on a creationist. That isn't fair.

1370. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #165451 by al-rawandi on April 21, 2008 at 1:37 pm

TruthID

If I were walking in a desert and came upon a highly detailed intricate sand castle, would I assume it developed by chance because I did not see the creator?

I never mentioned a GOD or someone to worship as in a religious concept

I am referring solely to a source/creater/designer for our existence. If it did not happen by chance, the only alternative is purpose.

I have yet to find one shred of evidence which clearly proves that MACRO-evolution occurred.

Please don't tell me to read

Multiple mutations do not turn simplicity in complex better functiong things.

There is no way possible that due to chance our universe and world and life evolved.

1371. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #165439 by al-rawandi on April 21, 2008 at 1:21 pm

epeeist,

complete no-nothing and we deduct another 10 from your estimated IQ. Not long before you are down to negative numbers.

1372. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #165432 by al-rawandi on April 21, 2008 at 1:14 pm

TruthID

I don't understand something. Please inform me of what I do not understand?

1373. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #165418 by al-rawandi on April 21, 2008 at 1:01 pm

epeeist,




A gun is a penis replacement the same way a sword is (you have swords, no?). And in the same way all generalizations are accurate. Although the person you are referring to is no doubt dickless.

1374. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #165413 by al-rawandi on April 21, 2008 at 12:58 pm

navyjake,




I am a gun owner (at 100 yards I would bet on myself with a 30.06), a capitalist, an American, anti-Jihad, anti-Communist. I don't really understand what you are saying?

I accuse you of intellectual cowardice, which is pretty obviously the case in your selective world.


My guess is you hang out with your buddies on some ranch somewhere, playing with your AR-15 bushmaster .223, pretending it is a real M-4 carbine (Damn semi-auto rifle, stupid 10 round cap magazine). Running around in camoflauge outfits, readying yourself to defend against the UN invasion, no doubt to be led by Commie-Faggot-Atheist-Jihadist-Muslim-Jew-Agnostic-Buddhist-Baby Eaters. I suggest you get all the canned food you can, sleeping bags, extra batteries, and plenty of amunition (don't forget your bug-out guns) lock yourself in a fortified structure far away from urban areas and await the Communist-Atheist-Faggot-Baby Eater invasion.


Clown.


*EDIT*: I promise to fire a flare when the Blue Helmets march down Market Street.

1375. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #165395 by al-rawandi on April 21, 2008 at 12:38 pm

Tyler,



I think Gigli did better than Expelled.

1376. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #165372 by al-rawandi on April 21, 2008 at 12:00 pm

Diacanu,




HEY. Steer a wide berth when it comes to Walker Texas Ranger. That was a hell of a show.

1377. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #165359 by al-rawandi on April 21, 2008 at 11:47 am

navyjake95,




In combat?


Don't say navy.

1378. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #165322 by al-rawandi on April 21, 2008 at 10:43 am

navyjake95,

You can spin your words, spew your venom and call me names (again), and satisfy your hunger for being "correct" - but "Expelled" has shed light on you and your worldview.

1379. Mecca should become core to measure time zones: scholars

Comment #165319 by al-rawandi on April 21, 2008 at 10:34 am

Barry Pearson,




Do you know what one Harun Yahya's (his real name is Adnan Oktar) wrote in 1996?

Soykirim Yalani... "The Holocaust Lie"

He claims the Holocaust was actually about 100,000 deaths due to Typhoid Fever. Bah.

In 1986 he wrote a book entitled "Judaism and Freemasonry"

He espouses the usual Muslim nonsense about Jews conspiring in the dark tunnels of some western masonic lodge to disenfranchise Muslims. And the solution, of course, is to make the Muslim world more like 7th Century Arabia, and all will be well.

The guy is not only a moron, but a bigot too.

1380. Mecca should become core to measure time zones: scholars

Comment #165277 by al-rawandi on April 21, 2008 at 9:33 am

Vaal,




This already happened. Allah promised to protect the Ka'aba in Mecca against any physical harm, by having angels circle the rock. Well the rock was hit with cannon fire (the Ottomans I think). The Muslims just tend to ignore these kinds of things.

1381. Mecca should become core to measure time zones: scholars

Comment #165265 by al-rawandi on April 21, 2008 at 9:21 am

Elephant,




Do you know who else claimed Islam never contradicted science?


Abdullah Bin Baz, the blind grant Mufti of Saudi Arabia. He fervently maintained the earth was flat, and that the moon landing was a Zionist conspiracy. In that case, Islam was perfectly in line with his science.


Also Yousuf al-Qaradawi also gave a fatwa saying that suicide bombings are permissible in Islam.

1382. Mecca should become core to measure time zones: scholars

Comment #165232 by al-rawandi on April 21, 2008 at 8:38 am

Raigen,



Ahhh yes the splitting of the moon.


This is really the best ammunition againts Christians who claim miracles as evidence for Jesus' divinity. I simply say, "Well lots of people watched Muhammad split the moon, how come you aren't a Muslim." I let them try to discredit one miracle while still accepting another. Quite amusing.


In response to your co-worker, point to the crack in your ass, and claim a miracle.

1383. Mecca should become core to measure time zones: scholars

Comment #165200 by al-rawandi on April 21, 2008 at 7:49 am

For anyone interested,



Here is another bit of Muslim stupidity.



There is a Muslim "doctrine" (read: bull shit myth) that states that Mecca is constantly circled by a group of angels. These angels are supposed to protect the Ka'aba itself from any physical harm.

However the rock itself has been hit by canon fire at least once before. Perhaps the angels had the day off.

1384. Mecca should become core to measure time zones: scholars

Comment #165194 by al-rawandi on April 21, 2008 at 7:45 am

Elephant,



Where did you hear about the sperm and spine deal?


I came across this "sperm from the spine" in the Qur'an. I thought it was odd, but not especially peculiar being that the document is generally at odds with science.


When doing research for a publication, I noticed that the idea of sperm emenating from the spine is an old Arab myth. It predates Islam and is an important part of several Arab myths of the pre-Islamic period.

So apparently Allah lifted this bit of science from the period which he has Muhammad label "The Period of Ignorance" (Jahiliyya).

How curious.

1385. Ben Stein Vs. Sputtering Atheists

Comment #165152 by al-rawandi on April 21, 2008 at 6:10 am

You know what?



I totally agree.


I have been stifled for years by the PC crowd....


They don't want to discuss my flat earth theory. They compleeeetteeeely ignore my argument for stork baby theory. They actually laughed at my Easter Bunny claims. And now, and NOW they ridicule me for chasing Raimbows and looking for Leprechauns and pots of Gold.


In all seriousness. Let's look at ID real quick.

ID'er: "I have this alternate theory"
Scientist: "That is bullshit, and obviously so"
ID'er: "I will take it to court"


ID'er: "This is my theory"
Judge (hears witnesses): "Do you have any evidence"
ID'er: "None whatsoever, but it feels good."
Judge: "Ok. You are an idiot, and yes this is bullshit."

ID'er: "I am writing an article and exposing these frauds."


Article claims exactly what was exposed as bullshit by scientists and the legal system.


What kind of fucktardary is this?

1386. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #163559 by al-rawandi on April 18, 2008 at 2:04 pm

Paulgnewton,




Penguin Press...


Blasphemer.

1387. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #163549 by al-rawandi on April 18, 2008 at 1:51 pm

Anna,



I hate Penguinis more than I hate simple penguins.


Are you a penguini?



OK now I have a----------insert excuse here----------- to do and must be going.

1388. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #163547 by al-rawandi on April 18, 2008 at 1:49 pm

Anna,



How can you have any objective senses without belief in the Kiwi?


I don't like your nihilistic view of "subjective smells". Besides, you cannot disprove my Kiwi theory.

If you believe in Kiwis you have everything to gain, and if you don't everything to lose.

Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot ALL loved penguins.

The Second Law of Thermodynamics disproves you Penguin theory.

Besides, there are Kiwi miracles.

Belief in Kiwis just feels right for me.


Ok I am really busy now and I have to go.

1389. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #163530 by al-rawandi on April 18, 2008 at 1:17 pm

Penguin smell bad.




And they are the Danny Devito's of the animal world.


I don't really care for penguins much.


And don't let me catch anyone worshipping them around here. Goldy is also a Kiwi man, being from the beautiful native home of Kiwis, New Zealand. My family also comes from New Zealand, so we are all Kiwists. And quite proud too.

1390. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #163514 by al-rawandi on April 18, 2008 at 12:48 pm

Geoff,



BAH!


There is a book of revelation, all Kiwists must own a copy and read it nightly. Kiwipedia merely summarizes these themes.

We also have a sword for beheading ostrich worshippers.

1391. Gods and earthlings

Comment #163460 by al-rawandi on April 18, 2008 at 11:31 am

mintcheerious,




Richard Dawkins is a Raelian.



The Discovery Inst. really is a useless piece of trash. Flailing about in all directions, desperate to get hold of some item that could be the ad hominem to defeat Evolution. So they call Dawkins a Raelian, simply because he said it is "possible that advanced aliens could have seeded life".

He also said it is possible a God did this (although very very unlikely), does that make him a Catholic? I simply cannot comprehend this anti-logic.

1392. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #163439 by al-rawandi on April 18, 2008 at 11:03 am

cordura5,





You are going to have to list the scholars which were non-partisan and claimed Jesus existed. His simple existence proves nothing regarding his divinity. It has been a long held position among many non-believers that Jesus probably existed.

However the person named Apollonius of Tyana who fits in every description of this Christ figure, may well be to whom the "stories" refer. He claimed to be the son of God, claimed to perform miracles, was killed, and his disciples claimed he was resurrected.

It was certain that he existed. So two issues arise.... One, if he was in fact this Jesus person, it lays waste to centuries of Church doctrine. If he was not Jesus, but another person, then it goes to show that the claims Jesus forwarded were nothing special. They were simply copied from another place, and were later copied by others.



I assume a central claim of you faith is Miracles, specifically the miracles of Jesus. So Please answer the following. Muslims claim that Muhammad split the moon in two, and later summoned rain while the Muslims rested at al-Hijr (on their way to raid the Byzantines at Tabuk). Both of these events have witnesses, and these stories are far more rigorously verified than the Gospels have been. So how do you discount these Muhammad miracle stories while maintaining belief in Jesus' miracles? And if you cannot do so, how come you are not a Muslim?


I eagerly await your response.

1393. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #163433 by al-rawandi on April 18, 2008 at 10:54 am

Kiwis command my respect.


Blasphemers remained (Penguin worshippers mostly, but there were perhaps those from the Church of Latter Day Ostrichs as well, but I am not sure) they have since come to see the light.


Think about it.... flightless bird.... logic..... flightless bird.....logic.

1394. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #163419 by al-rawandi on April 18, 2008 at 10:27 am

cordura5,



And what happens if I want to read a book that supports some other religious outlook, say Muslim or Hindu, will that mean I am brave? Or does it have to be a specific space fairy?


So I dare you to produce some of this evidence (scientific backing as you call it) here and then we can chat about it. It seems unlikely that I will have time to read four books before the end of the week, so let's hear your summaries, highlighting the "evidence" for your belief.

1395. Sexpelled: No Intercourse Allowed

Comment #163383 by al-rawandi on April 18, 2008 at 9:14 am

All,




I am at the point where I will probably just ignore "Clearmind".


He hasn't yet produced anything worthy of note. He doesn't answer our questions. He keeps repeating the same nonsense over and over and over. Despite our demonstrations otherwise.

It has gone from amusingly retarded, to downright annoying. Like a small child tugging at my pant leg, asking when Santa will be here. I will now punt this small child across the room and get into the liquor cabinet.


Bah!

1396. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #163375 by al-rawandi on April 18, 2008 at 8:57 am

NTChristian,




Once I again, I feel the duty to ask you, even if Hitler viewed his struggle as Darwinian, how does that affect the scientific veracity of Natural Selection.


Secondly, a firm understanding of evolution also yields the knowledge that racial differences are next to non-existent. And that any assertion that there are such, is non-science. For instance the variegation within African Americans is so great that I (a white man) am as likely to be similar to a black man as another black man.


Lastly, Perhaps you didn't actually read Mein Kampf (not in the least surprising, cutting and pasting is so much easier for the theist), but he declared that he was "doing the Lord's work". And I don't think he meant Darwin when he said "Lord".


Would you also provide a page number where Hitler mentions Darwin? Or even natural selection?

It is rather disengenuous to simply site a 600 page book without being more specific.

1397. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #163373 by al-rawandi on April 18, 2008 at 8:51 am

Steve,




Jacques Derrida just smiled in his grave.

1398. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #163338 by al-rawandi on April 18, 2008 at 8:08 am

Podaar,




Allow me to quote Forest Gump in regards to RM's situation....


"Stupid is, as stupid does".

If you love sky fairies, you love sky faries.

1399. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #163327 by al-rawandi on April 18, 2008 at 7:47 am

SRWB,




It is true that some suicide bombers have wrapped their genitalia in wet towels. I am not sure how these women remain virgins. Since Muhammad was making it up as he went he probably just left that out.


Another thing Muslims don't like to talk about is the "young boys" of "handsome eyes" that also reside in paradise, and are there to serve their man masters. Pederasty in the hereafter.

1400. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #163303 by al-rawandi on April 18, 2008 at 7:01 am

That is why suicide bombers wrap their genitals in wet towels. So they will be fresh and ready for the virgin-fest.