Comments by thewhitepearl

1401. Islam subway ads cause stir in New York

Comment #216677 by thewhitepearl on July 23, 2008 at 11:49 am

actually INsecure for all her needless blustering about how confident she is.

Recall three where I have come out and said this.
Name one where I have blustered this fact without some sexist uncalled for comment that I have replied to.

You obviously haven't been lurking around long enough.

1402. Islam subway ads cause stir in New York

Comment #216675 by thewhitepearl on July 23, 2008 at 11:43 am

Apathy,

What project?

I certainly know this about myself - given a choice between going out on a Tuesday night to promote a free-thinking event and having a beer at the pub, I choose the pint

You could suggest the free thinking events take place at the pub. Kill two birds with one stone.

Until we can articulate something that we do believe in, that we do know to be true, and to which we can engage others, I think we're going to lose this war, because they care, and I'm not sure that we can get enough people on-board that do until it is far too late.

You know how I noticed a lot of religions sucker people in? They use the "feel good" thing. They do things that are good for humanity. Feed the poor, reach out to addicts, charity work..But they all do it in the name of their religion. Perhaps we would benefit in doing the same thing.

Some of the major foundations in the US that I can think of that promote helping out humanity are all rooted in a religion cause.

This really should change.

1403. How Anecdotal Evidence Can Undermine Scientific Results

Comment #216657 by thewhitepearl on July 23, 2008 at 11:26 am

Skeptologists huh? I hope to see it soon.

I really appreciate the work Michael Shermer has done and is doing. I saw him in a debate on C-Span not to long ago and was quite pleasant in his discussions.

1404. Islam subway ads cause stir in New York

Comment #216648 by thewhitepearl on July 23, 2008 at 11:17 am

I share Fanusi's concerns on this deceptive and almost machiavellian face of Islam. I would say this face of Islam is more frightening than the one that preaches intolerance.

How so? Do you mean in a sense that this face is more deceptive?

1405. Islam subway ads cause stir in New York

Comment #216644 by thewhitepearl on July 23, 2008 at 11:12 am

You seem to be quite good at getting strong reactions - and much ridiculus name calling directed at you - from people(i'm mainly thinking of joe and it appears kkelly).

So, to make a change, How are you? How has your day been?

So why is that? The strong reactions, I mean. You've seen the lot of my posts do I come across like a cold, selfish, over confident, feminist bull dog? Or whatever else these two seem to be implying in their comments thrown at me.

I'm doing well, doing well. Still visiting my Mother, had a lot coffee today. Thinking about trying to accomplish some sort of atheist movement in this area. About to heat up some gumbo for me and my mother's chupacabra looking canine. Thank you for asking. And yourself?

Everybody? Hope everyone is doing well this morning.

1406. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #216633 by thewhitepearl on July 23, 2008 at 11:01 am

Al,

Hmm sounds tempting...Does he own a gas station? And if so..what is he stance on slurpees?

1407. Islam subway ads cause stir in New York

Comment #216619 by thewhitepearl on July 23, 2008 at 10:50 am

Is it possible for me to talk to you without you declairing yourself woman and making sure I hear you roar?

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Nor do I really care. I don't really recall having some sort of feminist underlining tone in my posts towards you so if that is what you are trying to imply, you're wrong.

And quite frankly I'd rather you not talk to me, if the aforementioned commentary are all that you are capable of.

1408. Islam subway ads cause stir in New York

Comment #216615 by thewhitepearl on July 23, 2008 at 10:44 am

kkelly,

You started off on the wrong foot so you have that against you.

And you havent really posted enough for anyone to get some sort of a perspective on your personality. Furthermore I haven't seen a post from you yet that was worth really reading.

Lastly,

Some of us joke around with each other because we've been posting for quite some time and have a pretty good feel for each other.

1409. Islam subway ads cause stir in New York

Comment #216607 by thewhitepearl on July 23, 2008 at 10:37 am

96, which of those three outcomes describes you?

Does it really matter? If I were any or all three of the above, it obviously wouldn't bother me. As it would only describe one part of my personality and not all of it. In short, I would own it. I have enough confidence in myself that any poor half ass attempts by fucktards such as yourself to bother me or be amusing to your peers, would fall quite short.

So I'll let you decide.

1410. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #216599 by thewhitepearl on July 23, 2008 at 10:23 am

probably out of your league

Probably?

you also got no morals or class, why the stripper when you have whitepearl available?!

Ahh and you are just a clean white sparkly version of class and morality huh? I don't think anyone, including your beloved Nazik would agree that your behavior is classy or moral. I could be wrong. Who knows? It's not like he subsribes to a belief system that is rooted in morality any way.

As for me, I'm not for sell. Not even for your two goats and a chicken. Get the fuck over it. Take your hands out of your pants and dream on.

1411. Islam subway ads cause stir in New York

Comment #216581 by thewhitepearl on July 23, 2008 at 10:03 am

Women it is true occasionally decline into stereotypical embittered spinsterhood and/or religious mania, but on the whole they don't vent their frustrations by physically assaulting the men who have rejected them. In general, they seem more capable of channelling frustrated sexual energies into more constructive things like writing and art for example.

Actually they become lesbian. Some of these lesbians become butch. And they act out their sexual repression on other women.

Some of these women become lesbians and make pornography.

And some of them just become sluts.

1412. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #216555 by thewhitepearl on July 23, 2008 at 9:36 am

i'd call you but im banished to the kitchen...

actually, no, no i wouldn't. I know what you have to say and I don't want to subject myself to some creepy-woman hating-sexually frustrated islamic outcast and his rants.

Epeeist,

Do you have that entire list saved somewhere? It seems to get longer and longer everytime you post it.

1413. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216288 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 11:16 pm

**cricket, cricket**

1414. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216271 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 9:52 pm

You go Coco.

Pretty much the only thing he has done is reply back to posts that didn't require any real intelligence... or something that he could find an excuse to throw in an insult.

1415. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216265 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 9:38 pm

Night Goldy! Thanks!

1416. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216259 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 9:32 pm

Neither did Jesus, judging from his interactions with the Jewish authorities of his day

Evidence?

1417. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216255 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 9:23 pm

Bobby,

Try, please try, a source that isn't biased in your faith? Either way like I implied before, even if I do accept the reference you gave me as being credible, and dismiss the horus story as being parallel to jesus...You still have three more.

And THEY ARE ALL SIMILAR. ALL of them. Whether they come before or after or during, they are all bullshit.

1418. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216245 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 9:18 pm

Robert,

That's fine. You don't want to accept the horus thing..now move on to the three you have remaining.

And of course there is no evidence of horus being born of a virgin..he doesn't exist.

There you go, another similarity to Jesus.

1419. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216234 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 9:09 pm

Robert,

Read the fucking page. The whole thing is sited from other scholars, books, historians, and the such. There is bound to be someone you agree with. And in any case if you feel like you want to study all four religions individually, you go right on ahead.

My point is still the same. And I'm still right. Christianity is not original. It's a great example of copy cats.

Rad,

I am. But I actually thought it so I typed it. My brain even said the whole thing in an irish accent.

1420. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216232 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 9:06 pm

Goldy,

Maybe that's why I always have this need to drink when I'm on this site.

1421. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216226 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 9:01 pm

I think he realized he kicked himself in the arse.

1422. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216223 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 8:56 pm

Are you referring to the Flintstones Museum in Kentucky?

nope.

[edit] Niiiiiiiiiiice Rad.

1423. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216222 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 8:53 pm

ok good. now have you ever studied them?

You should. The similarities between all of those myths and jesus is also overwhelming. So if you dont want to accept that evidence for the myths of mithras predating christianity is real or exists, you have at least four more to choose from.

I revert back to my original claim.

[edit] http://jdstone.org/cr/files/theoriginsofchristianity.html

There you go sweetie. Read up. There is a whole list of references to legitimate scholars.

1424. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216216 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 8:44 pm

Hell, if someone showed me evidence of human fossils in a dinosaur dig my curiousity would be peeked for sure!

I take it you haven't heard of the park over in our side of the world? That "depicts" human footprints right alongside dino prints?

they're pretty fucking ridiculous looking. like cartoonish...I went when I was younger , still indoctrinated and it still looked fake to me.

1425. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216211 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 8:38 pm

I have read those other accounts and I do not find them credible. That's really the long and short of it.

and what would you find credible? the bible? or a website that is biased towards the bible?

1426. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216210 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 8:34 pm

Robert,

Out of the following please answer yes or no in terms of if there is any evidence (as you would consider it) of them originating before christianity:

Buddah, Horus, Krishna, and Prometheus.

Thank You.

1427. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216185 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 8:13 pm

You cannot go from "there was a god named Mithras that was around before Christ" to "Christianity copied from Mithraism"

Yeah, you're right. The god just existed without any explanation or mythology behind him. He just was. He remained that way until Jesus. And then they made up a story about him.

1428. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216172 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 7:59 pm

I read somewhere,

"the kingdoms of Parthia and Pontus in Asia Minor. Several of their kings were called Mithradates, meaning "given by Mithra", starting with Mithradates I of Parthia (died 138 BC). "

"And it was at Pergamum, in the 2nd century BC, that Greek sculptors started to produce bas-relief imagery of Mithra Taurocthonos, "Mithra the bull-slayer."

ooo ooo oh I even found this:

"In the same way that Ahkenaton, Abraham, Heliogabalus, and Mohammed later initiated henotheistic cults from the worship of their respective deities, Zarathustra created a henotheistic dualism with the gods Ahura-Mazda and Ahriman. As a result of the Babylonian captivity of the Jews (597 B.C.) and their later emancipation by King Cyrus the Great of Persia (538 B.C.), Zoroastrian dualism was to influence the Jewish belief in the existence of HaShatan, the malicious Adversary of the god Yahweh, and later permit the evolution of the Christian Satan-Jehovah dichotomy. Persian religious dualism became the foundation of an ethical system that has lasted until this day. "

[edit] "Mithraism arrived fully mature at Rome with the return of the legions from the east in the first century BC. As an action god of armies and the champion of heroes, he appealed to the professional Roman soldiers, who carried his cult to Iberia, Britain, the German frontiers and Dacia.

The cult of Mithras began to attract attention at Rome about the end of the first century AD, perhaps in connection with the conquest of then-Zoroastrian Armenia. The earliest material evidence for the Roman worship of Mithras dates from that period, in a record of Roman soldiers who came from the military garrison at Carnuntum in the Roman province of Upper Pannonia (near the Danube River in modern Austria, near the Hungarian border). These soldiers fought against the Parthians and were involved in the suppression of the revolts in Jerusalem from 60 A.D. to about 70 A.D. When they returned home, they made Mithraic dedications, probably in the year 71 or 72. "

Wasn't the NT said to be written around that time?

1429. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216161 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 7:49 pm

Just out of curiosity what are the dates of the remains of mithraic temples, dedicatory inscriptions,stone sculptures, wall paintings, and mosaics?

1430. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216154 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 7:37 pm

No, some are legit, others are b.s. The pagan origins of December 25th and Easter eggs do not reflect on the veracity of Christianity one iota

Please refer to Rev. Dark's post.

again and again and again.

1431. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216137 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 7:22 pm

Even Petra the gate keeper is taken over to Petrus (Peter) as Christian gate keeper, the celebration of Easter with eggs as resurrection after 3 days is also from Egypt, Christmas day from Mithras, and the Greek god of the water house Oannes is taken as baptizer Johannes (John).

Very nice, unfortunatley Bobby boy will let it roll of his shoulder and refer to it as a "parallel".

Work on your reading comprehension while you are away.

Work on your retorts. I'm sure that is the root of goldy's boredom.

1432. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216123 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 7:07 pm

It's not exactly psuedo-reasoning but call it what you want;

you're still wrong. and very much deluded.

So basically what you are saying, is christianity came up with all of these ideas BEFORE? They just happen to have different twists on a variety of myths (all compiled together in one book and one religion) from pre-existing (or existing) religions by accident?

Yup makes sense.

1433. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216105 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 6:44 pm

Well Bobby,

We did say derived and originated. Not copied word for word.

Now, why is it the only thing you are trying to defend is the osiris myth? What about the list of rituals and beliefs I listed earlier? What you can't refute that? So you agree that chrisitianity is not original then? You just want to huff and puff about the details, I see.

EDIT

Bitch please

HA HA HA HA HA HA! Did that come with a finger snap and head bobbing as well? Or did you motion to tell it to the hand and weave your neck?

1434. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216097 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 6:33 pm

It's a good thing slow-witted atheists have this echo chamber; you would not last a New York minute outside of it.

It's a good thing naive, puppeted, bible robots have the internet, wikipedia, and the amazing ability to cut and paste to survive in our echo chamber; you would not last the speed of light without it.

1435. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216092 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 6:16 pm

Goldy, bless his/her limited intellect, thinks Christianity is derived from this:

Seth kills and dismembered Osiris, then stuffs him in a chest and sinks him in the Nile. Osiris' sister-wife, Isis, with the help of Nephthys collects the pieces and gets help "putting him back together again." While he is on the bier waiting to be reanimated by Anubis and Thoth, Isis, in the form of a bird, hovers over the ithuphallic corpse and in that way conceives Horus. Osiris, though reanimated, ain't the same as he used to be, so he becomes lord of the underworld.

Let me break this down for you:
Betrayal by someone close to him, death, and resurrection. Oh and he ascends (or descends in this case) to rule over a place of afterlife.

Read between the lines.

My good yokel, I have thousands of dollars worth of books, at least 90% of which you would not be able to comprehend

I doubt it. But I'll play your little game and retort with:

It was a waste of money. I doubt you can either.

[edit] oh and not the ENTIRE bit of christianity is derived from that. I don't think anyone would suggest that.

1436. Islam subway ads cause stir in New York

Comment #216088 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 6:10 pm

Should we contact Josh on this matter? Never wrong doing something constructive for once.

I'm all for it. Like B0ltz said, if RD started a fund I would donate to it also. Perhaps we should all get in contact with local atheist groups and start a fund in each major city. Ads for the subway, or any public transportation,(In Dallas DART would have to suffice) billboards..etc..

If we were to do something like that locally amongst ourselves, who would we go to for permission?

1437. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216076 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 5:57 pm

I suggest you expand your library beyond the bible and wikipedia.

1438. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216072 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 5:54 pm

There once was a guy named O'Brien
who was sure Richard Dawkins was lyin'
but Bob's logic was daft
to the point we all laughed
now run along Bob, thanks for tryin'

Now THAT was a gem.

1439. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216061 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 5:43 pm

Robert,

Christianity is not new. It might not repeat the exact same story but it certainly borrows from common beliefs and stories from religions and myths before them. Myths like:

1. Personal gods who care about people and help or punish them. That ruled the universe. Gods that ascend and descend from their home up in heaven
2. A soul that survives death and eternal life after death, with torment for sinners; reward for the worthy
3. The Logos
4. Gods who are sons of the supreme God, often born of a mortal woman. (In some cases virgins)
5. Prophecy that was made and fulfilled
6. Miracles like raising the dead, healing the sick, restoring sight to the blind, turning water into wine.

Furthermore they copied the same "unique" practices of other religions like baptisms, rebirth and salvation, holy meals established by gods... etc etc

Your Jesus isn't so unique.

1440. Richard Dawkins slaps creationists into the primordial soup

Comment #216037 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 5:16 pm

and that Christianity is an Egyptian knockoff?

It is. Christianity is a great big knock off of many religions.

1441. Good Science Writers: Richard Dawkins

Comment #215996 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 4:29 pm

Ok who started this first post competition? It's getting rather annoying. If you have this itching desire to point out the obvious to everyone, please include something relative to the article. Or at least state something worth reading.

I wonder what metaphors and incorrect views of evolution the author is refering to.

1442. Islam subway ads cause stir in New York

Comment #215987 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 4:17 pm

I wonder what the uproar would be if the atheist community tried the same thing.

1443. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #215723 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 9:23 am

Holy shit that was funny!

[edit]

"No mo mista nyce guy"

1444. [UPDATED] Venomous Snakes, Slippery Eels and Harun Yahya

Comment #215709 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 9:13 am

Al and Epeeist got nicknames and everyone else is just on lists.

IF YOU INDEED HAVE ALL THOSE QUALIFICATIONS, THEN WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR TO SEEK ZAKIR NAIK OUT AND SHOW HIM WHAT YOU ARE MADE OF?

I think he already mentioned this. You won't give him Naik's contact information.

GO AWAY JOE, GO AWAY!

1445. Nine face stoning death in Iran

Comment #215689 by thewhitepearl on July 22, 2008 at 8:58 am

TWP, when I first read this story on BBC, I imagined the same thing. It literally brought chills up my spine and gave me a sick feeling all over. It's really indescribable how horrific this kind of punishment is.

The sad thing is before this article, I haven't ever really given thought to it. Growing up in a religious household and reading from the Bible, it really isn't given a second thought. I was too young when I heard about this form of punishment to really understand it. The cherry on the top being it was something that god wanted. It really is a barbaric form of punishment.

Again, I replied that soldiers are killed, not "murdered".

Kill- to deprive of life in any manner; cause the death of; slay
Murder- the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law. In the U.S., special statutory definitions include murder committed with malice aforethought, characterized by deliberation or premeditation or occurring during the commission of another serious crime, as robbery or arson.

Well that clears that up.

Israeli murderers are called commandos; Arab commandos are called terrorists---George Carlin on Soft Language

Oh yes if george carlin the comedian* says it MUST be true.

1446. The brain in love

Comment #215399 by thewhitepearl on July 21, 2008 at 7:32 pm

C'mon girlfriend let's party....ROCK N ROLL!!! WOOO! Yee Haa!

More budweiser tonight I see.

I meant if you are (in your words) too selfish to have children -- then you would likely be unhappy if you found yourself with one or more

I understand the point you were hinting at. If we don't want children but for some reason had them, it would not only be an unhappy situation for us, but prob pass down on to the kids. I prob wouldn't be the best parent, I might even resent the child. People who are too selfish to have kids, shouldn't because when you have children you have to forget about yourself.

Yes Mitchell and I are to narcissistic.

but to use them as sexual objects by which to masturbate your mind or your body.

masturbate your mind? how does that work i wonder?

1447. Richard Dawkins on Al Jazeera English

Comment #215398 by thewhitepearl on July 21, 2008 at 7:22 pm

Rad, Bax

Take the movie talk to the appropriate thread if it's going to go any further. This thread isn't damaged yet. :)

Max,

Yeah the video was choppy for me as well. It looked like everything was in slow-mo and it took them about 6 seconds to blink.

Rod,

They didn't happen to find human footprints next to these tracks too did they?

Thanks for the link. That's cool.

1448. The brain in love

Comment #215385 by thewhitepearl on July 21, 2008 at 6:42 pm

Rad, I can't take anything you say seriously with that avatar.

1449. Richard Dawkins on Al Jazeera English

Comment #215361 by thewhitepearl on July 21, 2008 at 5:44 pm

I wish there were more programs like this, where emails and calls are sent in for review and rebuttal. But on the other hand I'm sure it get's frustrating answering the same questions and arguments.

1450. Surgeon General Nominee Dismisses Homosexuality Paper

Comment #215338 by thewhitepearl on July 21, 2008 at 4:51 pm

Coco, Aura;

Last year around the same time Obama was quoted as saying this in regards to Holsingers nomination:

"America's top doctor should be a doctor for all Americans, and so I have serious reservations about nominating someone who would inject his own anti-gay ideology into critical decisions about the health and well-being of our nation. As with other nominees, I will listen to the testimony of Dr. James Holsinger, but this Administration must know that the United States Surgeon General's office is no place for bigotry or ideology that would trump sound science and good judgment."

Couldn't find anything on McCain.

[edit]Not outraged KKelly, appalled. Now if you aren't going to say anything of any real importance and continue to just try to get a rise out of people, you will continue to be referred to as a troll.