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Comment #13833 by Aussie on December 19, 2006 at 3:36 pm
Comment #13496 by Aussie
"This guy Mike Dickin is a legend. I wish we had him here in Oz. For a talk back presenter he is not insufferable like most of the others. A great sense of humour and right on the ball.
Unfortunately he seems constantly very short of breath. I hope he looks after himself. We can ill afford to lose people like him."
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Premonition?
Strangely this happens to me not infrequently and sometimes quite spectacularly. I need a good dose of Richard's next Channel 4 production.
102. Talk in Class Turns to God, Setting Off Public Debate on Rights
Comment #13625 by Aussie on December 18, 2006 at 10:32 pm
Imagine how these residents would have reacted if it had been an atheist (or Muslim or Hindu) teacher instead who set about attempting to destroy the Christian beliefs of the students.
He would have been hung drawn and quartered!
103. Richard Dawkins on the Mike Dickin Show
Comment #13581 by Aussie on December 18, 2006 at 3:02 pm
While we are on the subject of this website I do not know whether or not this is the place to express appreciation to Josh Timonen for the unbelievable job he is doing. Many people do not realise what is involved in building, maintaining and moderating a website like this.
I have had some experience myself having built one website many years ago and have recently commissioned a company to build our latest website. Apart from all the technical issues involved, which are formidable in themselves, there are requirements for graphic design, layout, aethetics, balance, navigability and search engine optimisation to name just a few. To get all this right to produce such a product as Josh has given us here is nothing short of "miraculous". I often wonder, whenever I enter here, if Josh actually has any time to pursue other aspects to his life. What impresses me is that amongst all of this he still has time to be responsive to our suggestions.
This website looks good, feels good and is a pleasure and delight to use. In fact it is so good that it has become quite addictive to me to the extent that I try to ration myself to a limited number of visits - as I am supposed to be running a business at the same time.
But I must admit I have sinned many times as I quickly sneak in again for a quick look during the day, when I am really supposed to be working, to check up on the new topics and postings that have appeared. I keep promising myself that I will stop using this website but the Devil keeps tempting me back with his irresistable offerings. Maybe what is required is a contrite confession followed by penance with sackcloth and ashes. Anyone know where you can buy indulgences these days?
104. Richard Dawkins on the Mike Dickin Show
Comment #13509 by Aussie on December 18, 2006 at 3:43 am
I haven't laughed so much for a long time.
Highly recommended - the entire three hours - hugely entertaining - but a bit sad in some ways.
105. Richard Dawkins on the Mike Dickin Show
Comment #13500 by Aussie on December 18, 2006 at 2:57 am
I sincerely hope that the callers we heard do not constitute a representative sample of British intellect.
If it is then it is not only the good old US of A that has an affliction that is potentially lethal to civilisation.
106. Richard Dawkins on the Mike Dickin Show
Comment #13496 by Aussie on December 18, 2006 at 2:40 am
This guy Mike Dickin is a legend. I wish we had him here in Oz. For a talk back presenter he is not insufferable like most of the others. A great sense of humour and right on the ball.
Unfortunately he seems constantly very short of breath. I hope he looks after himself. We can ill afford to lose people like him.
Comment #13493 by Aussie on December 18, 2006 at 2:26 am
Thanks Yorker,
But there was really never any doubt was there?
God was on our side.
108. Lunch with the FT: Richard Dawkins
Comment #13429 by Aussie on December 17, 2006 at 3:52 pm
For religion in the US, the name of the game is making money. Make no mistake about it - religion is very big business.
It is therefore no mystery why McFaith is ubiquitous in "God's Own Country"
Comment #13423 by Aussie on December 17, 2006 at 3:01 pm
Comment #13385 by Yorker
"This Hell concept must be the most evil meme ever propagated."
And the most effective. BTW did you notice my post in the grandparents thread where my 6 year old granddaughter was euphemistically warned by a classmate that she was headed for "Bad Heaven" because she did not attend scripture classes.
"The Beyond Belief conference showed a clear division about how to tackle the problem. Is the direct attack by reason and ridicule, (Dawkins, Harris etc) or the much gentler (Krauss, Weinberg etc) method, the best way? All things considered, I'm still not certain which is best."
The two approaches are not mutually exclusive - a bit like different ecological niches or different antibiotics. The Dawkins/Harris treatment will work better for some strains and severities of the disease while the Krauss/Weinberg therapy will be more effective for others. Lets use them both side by side.
I really appreciate the Dawkins/Harris approach because the position these guys adopt requires the most courage. They both have the guts to stand up and be counted and tell it as it is without pussyfooting about.
As the saying goes "Thank God for Dawkins".
Comment #13321 by Aussie on December 17, 2006 at 2:36 am
Yorker,
Feeling happier today since England has done a parial Lazarus? (if you'll excuse the Biblical reference)
The Poms were having problems surviving the fires of hell that we have been stoking here in Oz.
111. Preaching to the converted
Comment #13320 by Aussie on December 17, 2006 at 2:18 am
"But isn't it odd that we - and Dawkins in particular - are still troubled by these irrational fears? If they really are as primitive as he's suggesting, wouldn't he expect them to have died out, or at least diminished, as human beings have become more sophisticated?"
You must remember that Richard, like many of us was infected by faith during his formative years until he shook off the affliction.
Like the Herpes Zoster virus (chicken pox) following recovery it can live inactively in the system for decades and then reappear suddenly without warning (as shingles).
112. Preaching to the converted
Comment #13319 by Aussie on December 17, 2006 at 2:11 am
"The bubonic plague was not caused by 'God's will', but by a nasty little bug."
God created the bug - its as simple as that.
113. Christmas Present to Defenders of Darwinism
Comment #13315 by Aussie on December 17, 2006 at 1:54 am
Pathetic!
114. Atheist Brigade Takes Arguments to the Tolerant
Comment #13314 by Aussie on December 17, 2006 at 1:52 am
"Evolution is the atheists religion."
As above, you can redefine words such as "religion" to mean anything you like and then draw inappropriate conclusions.
Using the same approach you could implicitly redefine "devil worship" to be the worship of a supernatural being of any kind.
Having done that we can now refer to Christians as "Devil Worshippers".
115. Intelligent Design packets
Comment #13294 by Aussie on December 16, 2006 at 9:10 pm
Lovely. What a standard of scientific understanding! Proof by analogy no less.
Buggs: "We have just seen a story on the design of a new stadium ......". QED.
This is about as convincing as the following statement. "Water is very harmful to the human body." Why? Well you only have to look at the damage water does to a tin can. Imagine what it will do to your stomach!
116. Grandparents linked with church-going
Comment #13142 by Aussie on December 15, 2006 at 8:16 pm
Last night while bathing my 6 year old granddaughter I decided to introduce her to the story of Noah's Ark. With the help of a plastic dish and some small plastic animals and people I played out the story from beginning to end taking care to emphasise that it was just a fairy story like Pinocchio.
Because she does not attend "Scripture" classes like her friends, one of them had recently warned her euphemistically that she would go to "Bad Heaven". I thought that the time had now come to commence innoculating her with inactivated mental virus in the form of a modified Noah's Ark story. I think that it is important to expose children to the rich mythology of our culture in a way that educates instead of enslaving them and prepares them to be able to contend with the threats from the faithful.
117. Intelligent design: The God Lab
Comment #13135 by Aussie on December 15, 2006 at 7:45 pm
"Which countries of the world accept evolution as fact? This Chart is very interesting. U.S.A. of course, is almost at the bottom, next to Turkey.
The top of the heap appears to be Iceland!"
Roy_H,
I wonder why Australia doesn't figure in the list. Maybe we are too unimportant, too embarrassing, too extreme or were we just simply forgotten. I would hazard a guess that we would be near the top of the list being an ungodly nation of exconvicts. But then again so was the US. Why did the US go in one direction and we in the other.
I am just so glad that we do not have to waste our precious time here fighting these nineteenth century battles to rid our scientific culture of iron age myths. It must be so embarrassing being a rational American knowing that other enlightened Western nations consider such a large portion of the population of your country as culturally anachronistic and scientifically naive.
Comment #13130 by Aussie on December 15, 2006 at 6:21 pm
I find this purile and senseless.
Is this being clandestinely organised by the Godsquad to make us all look bigger nut cases than them.
Let's leave the stupidity to the religites.
119. Grandparents linked with church-going
Comment #13127 by Aussie on December 15, 2006 at 5:44 pm
Neither my parents nor my (influential) maternal grandparents were religious but for some reason I was sent to Sunday School. My grandfather in fact was such an inveterate blasphemer it would make you blush. Nevertheless when I married a Roman Catholic in Holland he hit the roof exclaiming "Why couldn't he have married a nice Protestant girl".
I am so happy that these "significant others" of mine were so inclined as it has made it that much easier to reject all the nonsense.
My paternal grandparents, with whom I had very little contact, were very religious Exclusive Bretheren and they would rush and switch our radio off whenever they visited as it was considered an instrument of the devil. The devil happened to hide in the Catholic Church down the road and would jump out and capture innocent Protestant children walking past. We used to regard their beliefs as mildly amusing.
120. Blaming 'The God Delusion'
Comment #13017 by Aussie on December 15, 2006 at 4:30 am
I would like to see many more vitriolic reviews of TGD and in fact to see it banned in some regions if this were possible. This would make the book even more controversial and as a consequence stimulate even greater sales than it has enjoyed so far.
I have just returned from a trip to Adelaide and just out of interest checked the bookstores in both Sydney and Adelaide airport.
Sydney Airport bookstore had a stack of TGD prominently displayed on the stand of best sellers as you entered the store. Copies were also available in two specialist sections inside the bookstore.
Unfortunately, neither of the two bookstores in Adelaide Airport had it on the stack of bestsellers at the door and even more disappointingly further investigation revealed that it was missing in the specialist categories inside where you might have expected to find it. In short there was not a copy to be found anywhere in Adelaide Airport. But as you could probably guess there was no shortage of books on astrology, aliens and other assorted nonsense.
121. Intelligent design: The God Lab
Comment #13010 by Aussie on December 15, 2006 at 3:51 am
As a former research scientist for over 30 years I must say that I find the ID approach to science seductively attractive.
With this novel approach you have the advantage of knowing the answer before you even commence your research program so you can work backwards towards the question.
This methodology removes any risk that you will not converge on the "correct" conclusion so it ensures a 100% success rate.
How long do you think that it will be before these ID "researchers" are making a clean sweep of the Nobels in Stockholm.
122. Julia Sweeney on The Late Show with Craig Ferguson
Comment #13002 by Aussie on December 15, 2006 at 2:42 am
"You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar."
Maybe so but you need the vinegar to catch those that are missed by the honey.
123. Richard Dawkins on The Late Late Show with Pat Kenny
Comment #12169 by Aussie on December 11, 2006 at 4:00 am
I really get frustrated with this ubiquitous Christian chauvinism.
Almost invariably whenever "religion" is discussed in the West a tacit assumption is made that the only religion worthy of discussion is Christianity.
People clinging to their Christian beliefs provide anecdotal examples of how beneficial these beliefs are not only to themselves personally but also to
humanity in general. A good example was that girl who suggested that her religion so helped her through personal difficulties that it bordered on the
miraculous.
What they do not even consider is that a Hindu sitting beside them there could equally well, and with corresponding sincerity, make the same compelling
claims about the benefits of his own religion in similar circumstances. Whenever "God" is mentioned, simply substitute "Lord Brahma" or "Allah" or whoever
and you will get the point.
If they expect us to be impressed by such arguments then to be consistent they should accept any identical arguments coming from the Hindu or the Muslim.
If you confronted them with this they would sit there looking at you like stunned mullet thinking you were crazy. The truth is that they have no
perspective on religion - being blinkered to considering only the one in which they were most likely raised ie Christianity.
In audiences like we have seen above there should either be people of other faiths present (or people such as rationalists who could put the views of
other faiths) to provide some cultural perspective to the discussion.
Even if faith and religion per se could be demonstrated to be as beneficial as claimed then it is up to Christians to explain why their brand of it alone
is a repository of truth superior to the mutually exclusive competition.
124. The Atheist Delusion: a pisspoor presentation
Comment #12053 by Aussie on December 9, 2006 at 7:19 pm
It will no doubt not have escaped your attention that various disruptive contributors to this forum are employing the same tactics as those that have characterised the Wedge strategy of the Intelligent Design movement. Their intent is to so disrupt and confuse discourse on this site that the forum becomes virtually useless for the purpose for which it was created. Unfortunately, well intentioned contributors ingenuously accept these people and their posts at face value and waste valuable time and effort attempting to reason with them. This, in fact, unwittingly achieves the goal of these vandals.
Indeed there do exist some theists and deists who have very worthwhile things to say and who can make valuable contributions to these discussions. My brother, for example, is an academic theologian who has written 28 books and he and I have frequent fruitful and stimulating discussions. I have just now returned from my weekly game of 2 hours of singles tennis with my opponent who is a close friend and a devout Ba'hai. We regularly exchange ideas and information in a most constructive and non-confrontational way. The disruptive elements on this site referred to in the previous paragraph do not fall into this category.
I urge all genuine contributors to this website to ignore totally the posts of the disruptive elements and not give them the time of day. If you do you will assist them in achieving their subversive objective of undermining and rendering this site useless.
I further urge admin to seriously consider my suggestion above of creating an invitation only thread exclusively for those who have demonstrated their bona fides (on the public threads) as being people with a genuine commitment to high quality constructive discourse.
125. The Atheist Delusion: a pisspoor presentation
Comment #11996 by Aussie on December 9, 2006 at 4:13 am
It would be beneficial to have at least one exclusive thread where selected people could be invited to contribute once they had demonstrated elsewhere on the site that they had indeed something worthwhile to contribute.
By excluding the obvious nut cases then the resulting discourse could be truly productive.
126. Book answers the atheists' prayers
Comment #11952 by Aussie on December 8, 2006 at 2:16 pm
Quite!
127. Reading of The God Delusion in Lynchburg, VA
Comment #11950 by Aussie on December 8, 2006 at 2:03 pm
"Take, for example, his response in the video to the "age of dinosaurs" question. Didn't anyone notice that he never actually addressed the question OR the problem ..."
What problem? There is no problem.
128. Ministers to ban creationist teaching aids in science lessons
Comment #11836 by Aussie on December 7, 2006 at 3:20 pm
Should Lysenkoism be taught alongside mainstream genetics in biology classes as an alternative theory of comparable standing to allow students to make up their own minds?
Should the basis of atheism and the irrationality of faith be required to be taught alongside religion in all classes providing religious instruction so students can decide for themselves?
Should teachers of religious instruction in all schools be required to present the basics of the other major competing religions in a fair and equal manner so that students can make up their own minds.
129. When Atheists Have Their Say (5 Letters)
Comment #11622 by Aussie on December 6, 2006 at 3:30 am
If nothing else there is one thing certain that you can say about David Mathews and that is that he sure seems to have an awful lot of time on his hands.
130. The delusion of Christianity: Fairy tales that changed the world
Comment #11600 by Aussie on December 5, 2006 at 10:23 pm
Profound!
131. Intelligent Design: The Clincher. A butterfly explodes the theory
Comment #11599 by Aussie on December 5, 2006 at 10:15 pm
What "intelligent design" lacks is Intelligent Discussion.
132. When Atheists Have Their Say (5 Letters)
Comment #11597 by Aussie on December 5, 2006 at 9:53 pm
Reading this thread leads one to the inescapable conclusion that David Matthews has an extraordinarily intimate hotline to God that would make GWB green with envy.
Perhaps David should apply for the vacancy of White House Spiritual Advisor made available recently by the sudden departure of Ted Haggard. George could certainly make good use of someone like David who possesses such detailed knowledge of the mind of God.
133. A Modest Proposal for a Truce on Religion
Comment #11476 by Aussie on December 5, 2006 at 12:24 am
"... a bit fundamentalist"
"Fundamentalism" is generally understood to mean "scriptural literalism".
It is difficult to see how atheists could ever be regarded as "fundamentalist" as they do revere any scripture.
134. The God of the Bible is No Delusion!
Comment #11040 by Aussie on December 2, 2006 at 9:32 pm
No Walter,
You have the golden calf by the horns.
If you read it carefully you will see that this promise is directed specifically to those who are following the wrong god viz Jews, Christians and pagans.
The only thing worse than Northern Hemisphere chauvinism is Christian chauvenism.
135. The God of the Bible is No Delusion!
Comment #11034 by Aussie on December 2, 2006 at 8:05 pm
I suspect that the following applies to a number of the contributers to this thread. If the following is relevant to you then I suggest that you change gear pretty quick while there is still time:
"
Consider those to whom a portion of the Scriptures was given. They believe in idols, and false gods and say of the infidels: "These are better guided than the believers" (4:50-51)
"Those that deny Our revelation We will burn in fire. No sooner will their skins be consumed than We shall give them other skins, so that they may truly taste the scourge. God is mighty and wise" (4:55-56). "You see many among them making friends with unbelievers. Evil is that to which their souls prompt them. They have incurred the wrath of God and shall endure eternal torment.... You will find that the most implacable of men in their enmity to the faithful are the Jews and the pagans, and that the nearest in affection to them are those who say: 'We are Christians'" (5:80-82) [T]hose that disbelieve, and deny Our revelations shall become the inmates of Hell" (5:86).
"
136. Revealed: rise of creationism in UK schools
Comment #10717 by Aussie on November 29, 2006 at 2:44 am
Bishop,
Thanks for being such a good sport and playing the counter role that was essential to demonstrate the point.
I attempted to be as outrageous as I could in order to draw attention to the absurd positions that many of these irrational believers adopt. It only goes to show that the degree of their absurdity is so great that it is very difficult for a normal person to differentiate it from gross caricature.
We make a good team. Lets get together again sometime.
137. Revealed: rise of creationism in UK schools
Comment #10640 by Aussie on November 28, 2006 at 5:03 pm
Bishop,
I almost forgot.
In case you need to add it to my CV in the award application, I am just completing a PhD in "Noah's Ark Logistics" at Ted Haggard University in Colorado.
Many thanks.
138. Revealed: rise of creationism in UK schools
Comment #10625 by Aussie on November 28, 2006 at 4:12 pm
From Comment #10414 by Bishop
"Reading this Aussie character's post just makes me sad. Its sad there has to be such vile stupidity in the world. On the plus side, he or she is probably phsychotic and probably does not pose any real threat. Who else would describe any mechanism for destruction as "exquisitly cruel"? Cruelty is never exquisit. I think this person should be a candidate for a Darwin Award."
Bishop, I would be honoured to be nominated for such a prestigious award. We creation scientists need as much exposure as we can get to allow us to demonstrate our impeccable credentials and to convince the world that we really do follow the true scientific method using both reason and logic. It is just that we start off with different axioms than the miserable sinners who blindly follow the discredited Theory of Evolution.
As I said in my original post, the scientific theory of Intelligent Design greatly simplifies science making it available to the masses rather than reserving its understanding to an elite priesthood.
Is the Darwin Award also presented in Stockholm? Just to make it clear that I am not particularly concerned about any small monetary consideration, such as that accompanying the other well-known prize, as we creation scientists are already very generously funded by our many tax advantaged benefactors. In that case I would be happy to donate it to the Richard Dawkins retirement fund.
139. Beyond Belief 2006 Videos
Comment #10399 by Aussie on November 28, 2006 at 2:58 am
Compelling viewing. Stimulating discourse. I cannot remember when I have enjoyed a Conference so much. It was such a disappointment to finally get to the end of the 15 hours. I might even watch the lot all over again. Having downloaded the complete set of ten files I am distributing these on DVD to all my friends who are interested.
Heartfelt thanks to whoever had the foresight to make these proceedings available to the public.
I am now going to get some well deserved sleep.
140. Revealed: rise of creationism in UK schools
Comment #10305 by Aussie on November 27, 2006 at 8:13 pm
I must admit that I am becoming increasingly convinced by arguments supporting the concept of "Intelligent Design". This novel scientific theory has definitively demonstrated its superiority over the now discredited Theory of Evolution as proposed by Charles Darwin.
Random chance, to me, can never explain how diseases so exquisitely cruel as H5N1, Ebola, HIV, Variola or Yeminia pestis can have developed in the absence of a malevolent and pitiless designer. The consequences of these agents are so evil they must have been part of an overall plan designed by a higher intelligence that would have far outclassed that of the designers of any atrocity conceived of during WWII.
And why should we stop with Darwin's Theory of Evolution. Following my recent enlightenment I have been inspired to find a supernatural alternative to Newton's Theory of Gravity and I have it almost complete and ready for publication. (Sneak preview: - I have developed a new explanation for why that apple fell off the tree)
Future projects will be to find similar supernatural alternatives to Einstein's General Relativity, Maxwell's Electromagnetic theory and the Quantum Mechanics of Planck, Bohr et al. The beauty of this new approach is that we will be able to do away with all those nasty equations that I never really understood anyway.
We must insist that these alternatives should be taught in schools and universities alongside the traditional boring accounts that have been thrust down our throats over the years. A major advantage will be that the original explanations can be replaced by greatly simplified propositions. This will enable many more people to study physics, chemistry and biology without actually having to understand them.
The greatly increased number of science and engineering graduates that will result will drive the US economy into a glorious future entrenching our uncontestable global technological superiority and, as a result, ensure the unassailability of our national security.
141. Why Are Atheists So Angry? A Debate with Dennis Prager
Comment #10028 by Aussie on November 26, 2006 at 10:35 pm
Using David's logic:
1. Scientists made the bombs that vaporised 100 000 Japanese.
2. Therefore scientists are to blame
Hmm interesting.
But David can actually go one step further with the same logic:
3. God made the scientists
4. Therefore God is to blame
142. Doubters do it from the pulpit
Comment #10006 by Aussie on November 26, 2006 at 9:36 pm
I must say that I am sympathetic to the sentiments expressed in the above article. What really disturbs me about Richard Dawkins is that he never seems to adopt a balanced position with regard to any of the issues that he discusses.
Take for example his implacable dogmatic attitude to the flat earth believers. Surely if he were to give a little (flat) ground then he could improve his effectiveness out of sight.
Another example is his dogmatic opposition to the traditional beliefs that condone honour killings in Muslim communities where this practice of stoning a woman who has been raped has been a way of life for centuries. We need to forego the knee-jerk reaction of our Western chauvinism to accommodate beliefs such as this that are strongly held by other cultures no matter how objectionable they may seem to our sensibilities. I do not know why Dawkins cannot bring himself to argue, for example, for the much more humane disposal method of say hanging these unfortunate creatures rather than stoning them. In this manner it would be a win-win for all involved. Although nobody would achieve everything that they desired at least everybody would enjoy some benefit - including the woman in question.
All I ask for is for some balance in the discussion.
143. Creation vs. Darwin takes Muslim twist in Turkey
Comment #9964 by Aussie on November 26, 2006 at 7:35 pm
"Are there still islands for sale somewhere? Because perhaps all of us can pool our money and purchase one to set up a rationalist nation of our own and get away from all of these non-thinking loons!"
Hold on. Haven't you heard of global warming and rising sea levels leading to disappearing islands. Why not put the fundamentalist Christians and Islamists on the island together so they could fight it out "to the Rapture" amongst themselves after each had first completed its own internal internecine exterminations. Then rising sea levels could flush the debris away.
On a more serious note I was considering sending my Turkish friend a copy of TGD as a "Christmas" present but have held off because I am not sure how the book would be viewed by the Turkish customs service. He might end up in gaol as the receiver of subversive material.
144. [But it's not about religion] Sectarian Attack Is Worst in Baghdad Since Invasion
Comment #9398 by Aussie on November 24, 2006 at 5:06 pm
But you have to understand that this violence is not based on religious differences but instead is actually political in nature. Religion is quite incidental.
Oh yeah! Have you ever wondered what the basis for the political differences are.
145. Science Gives Christians Upper Hand Over Atheists
Comment #9387 by Aussie on November 24, 2006 at 4:46 pm
No comment required.
146. Two who hopped off the faith train
Comment #9385 by Aussie on November 24, 2006 at 4:37 pm
maryhelena,
"Reviewers, after reviewers, are, in one sense or another, telling Richard Dawkins that a line has been crossed with The God Delusion."
I for one will be eternally grateful to Dawkins for crossing that line. If this were to be the only achievement of Dawkins' book then I would judge it, on this basis alone, to have been an outstanding success.
147. Beyond Belief 2006 Videos
Comment #9151 by Aussie on November 23, 2006 at 7:12 pm
"I'd hate to think that his (GWB) decision making process really is influenced by private conversations with the All Mighty."
You had better get used to the idea!
148. Liberty University is looking for Biology Professors
Comment #9149 by Aussie on November 23, 2006 at 7:06 pm
I cannot understand how they avoid experiencing intense embarrassment and shame.
149. God Delusion chosen as his Book of the Year
Comment #9138 by Aussie on November 23, 2006 at 6:41 pm
It is great to see that the TGD is not being ignored.
150. Welcome relief in a world full of superstition
Comment #9136 by Aussie on November 23, 2006 at 6:34 pm
The Y chromosome is passed down only from father to son through the generations. Females do not possess a Y chromosome. It is the possession of the Y-chromosome that makes you male.
Jesus' Y chromosome must have:
1) Been missing (virgin birth) but he could not then have been male.
2) Come from God (if so what was God's haplotype?)
3) Come from Joseph (most likely)
4) Come from a Roman soldier (a common theory) or someone else.