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Comment #199675 by al-rawandi on June 26, 2008 at 7:19 am
mordacious1,
I despise liars with a burning passion.
He just keeps repeating the same lie, over and over and over. I thought he was wooter for a while. Same syntax, grammar and spelling and same steadfastness in the face of a tidal wave of evidence.
I don't any part of that brand of secularism, that is for sure.
P.S. I get up at 4:30 am for work, there is no need for sun glasses.
102. PZ Myers - Science and Atheism in the Blogosphere
Comment #199668 by al-rawandi on June 26, 2008 at 7:11 am
Steve,
I think these theists just see reality in an inverted way. I don't think their brains can comprehend the obvious.
103. Saudi Marriage Officiant : 'It Is Allowed To Marry A Girl At The Age Of One'.
Comment #199664 by al-rawandi on June 26, 2008 at 7:05 am
Secularist,
Please show me which comments are apologetics?
You obviously cannot manage this. A double digit IQ plus a big mouth is a bad combination for you.
So like I said, post some evidence or shut the fuck up you pathetic coward.
104. Fossil of most primitive 4-legged creature found
Comment #199646 by al-rawandi on June 26, 2008 at 6:16 am
Folks,
We already found David Robertson. Tell us something we don't know.
Comment #199643 by al-rawandi on June 26, 2008 at 6:05 am
Steve,
My point wasn't to bait you or to question inequality, it exists in places in society, no doubt.
What I said was that the study you cited in no way made the case for inequality because it was not detailed enough. Allow me to draw a comparison... whenever you tell a religious Iranian that they discriminate against women they say "Well over 50% of college students in Iran are women."
On the surface this seems to be impressive, and a sign of equality. But it only takes a minute to: "What happens after college?" These women are still excluded from the work place in many fields. So statistics are only as good as the background details.
I also have no doubt that homosexuals receive discrimination. This is a shame for our society. I have always insisted on treating people equally, and treating statistics equally as well.
106. Mormons urged to back ban on same-sex marriage
Comment #199348 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 2:52 pm
secondsoprano
My "real problem" is that the state validates some lifelong, sexually exclusive, committed relationships, and not others.
I have no wish to go down to any church or synagogue, I wish to have the same civil rights as anyone else.
And if that bothers "the rest of you", you can go f*ck yourself.
My "real problem" is that the state validates some lifelong, sexually exclusive, committed relationships, and not others.
I have no wish to go down to any church or synagogue, I wish to have the same civil rights as anyone else.
I am banned from marrying the person to whom I intend to commit myself in a lifelong, sexually exclusive relationship. Hence I am banned from marrying.
107. Mormons urged to back ban on same-sex marriage
Comment #199328 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 2:24 pm
secondsoprano,
Gay men can marry women the same as any other man can, so they are not banned from marrying.
Your real problem is that the government involves itself at all with peoples' personal lives. The government has no business running around telling people who can have a marriage and who couldn't. Civil unions for all, with equal rights.
If you want to get married go down to your church or synagogue or whatever, but don't bother the rest of us with it.
108. Mormons urged to back ban on same-sex marriage
Comment #199317 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 2:08 pm
I am going to my first gay wedding
both the guys are in opera
109. Mormons urged to back ban on same-sex marriage
Comment #199306 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 1:38 pm
Robotaholic,
You are smarter than to equate feminism with gender equality.
I am for gender equality, I am not for whining about Augusta National when women are traded like commodities in the Yemen. Also I am against putting people in danger handing jobs to women. I am also against institutionalized discrimination which is "designed" to "redress" some previous wrong.
So I always do my very best to treat women like everyone else, and I insist others do the same. The only problem with this approach... most women don't care for the approach. Thankfully here we have rationalists who mean "equality" when they say it. I have nothing but respect for that.
Comment #199287 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 12:37 pm
mordacious1,
Teachers union? You mean the one that makes sure incompetent teachers can't be fired and remain in the classroom, screwing up more children? That UNION?
Comment #199264 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 12:05 pm
Winch man you say?
I am usually a wench man, but I can always substitute vowels....
What is a pipe bunk? I hope that doesn't mean sleeping in or on a pipe.
Comment #199253 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 11:45 am
epeeist,
Sooooo women suck at sailing?
:-)
I am not surprised by those numbers. I am a cross dominant, always had good reflexes. Maybe I should skipper a yacht.
Comment #199239 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 11:22 am
decius,
What do you mean? He let the people, who the department deemed worthy of leadership, lead. That was completely appropriate. He was just treating people equally, and that was the result.
That is enough on that topic.
Comment #199233 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 11:13 am
epeeist,
Not to justify the behavior, but just to make a small point:
If she was skipper it wasn't quite so good. She would be asked for her papers much more often than I. If I was in the harbour master's office then officials would talk to me rather than her, even though she was down as skipper. If we were in a larger boat (12m and above) she would often be asked how she handled such a large vessel
115. Saudi Marriage Officiant : 'It Is Allowed To Marry A Girl At The Age Of One'.
Comment #199231 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 11:08 am
GoneGolfing,
Welcome to my hell. I flirted with single digits for about a month or two, then quit playing so much and lost it all.
116. Saudi Marriage Officiant : 'It Is Allowed To Marry A Girl At The Age Of One'.
Comment #199215 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 10:34 am
Laurie,
Actually you aren't looking for an Arabic letter, you are looking for small vowel appearing in the suprescript. The specific vowel is the Dumma and it is pronounced with an "u" sound (oo). It is shorter in duration than the letter wow but is nonetheless a double 'o' sound. The Francophone transliteration is once again found to be wanting in terms of accurate transliteration.
Secondly where you have placed the "e" is in the Arabic a Kasra a small vowel in the subscript, and is pronounced with an "i" sounds as in "inhabit". Thus both the "o" and the "e" in the transliteration you use are inaccurate in conveying the appropriate sound.
Now, that is more than a little pedantic and I apologize.
Vaal,
Al, I'm not too impressed at being described as a "Kafir" either, I regard it is offensive as any racist expression. I don't think the Islamic press can complain about any so called insults with the vile filth they print everyday about Jews, Christians and atheists.
Kafir (Arabic: Ù?'Ø§ÙØ± kÄfir; plural Ù?'Ù�'ار kuffÄr) is an Arabic word meaning "rejecter" or "ingrate." In cultural terms, it is seen as a derogatory term used to describe an unbeliever, non-Muslims, apostate from Islam and even between Muslims of different sects
117. Mormons urged to back ban on same-sex marriage
Comment #199195 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 9:56 am
decius,
I hold the door as well, for anyone, irrespective of sex.
mordacious1,
I let the door slam on Bernard Lewis once at a MESA conference in SF. I attained a small measure of fame in my department.
elephant,
I am working through the John Waters. He is funny, and I think one of his first articles was on feminism.
118. Mormons urged to back ban on same-sex marriage
Comment #199187 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 9:39 am
Dhamma,
I may stop holding doors for women :-), and I am definitely done paying for dinners.
"Leave my special lady friend alone man... I'm helping her conceive."
-The Dude
It seems like the people who push for genuine equality always get labeled "racist" and "misogynist". It is more ad hominem nonsense.
Comment #199179 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 9:23 am
epinephrine,
For example, I'm against having different physical standards for firefighting,
120. Mormons urged to back ban on same-sex marriage
Comment #199176 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 9:16 am
mordacious,
The only sinking ships I am on are the S&P 500 and the Nasdaq.
121. Saudi Marriage Officiant : 'It Is Allowed To Marry A Girl At The Age Of One'.
Comment #199173 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 9:10 am
Fanusi,
Sorry, I have seen too much of the devastation wrought by the sexual revolution to be at all comfortable with running experiments with children's lives. In a traditionalist, patriarchal society maybe, where the father has a strong sense of responsibility towards his children. In the West, it seems to be yet another example of exalting whim over responsibility, and I have seen too much of what can go wrong to trust it.
122. Saudi Marriage Officiant : 'It Is Allowed To Marry A Girl At The Age Of One'.
Comment #199170 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 9:07 am
Laurie,
I think the more acceptable term is Muslim, but I am not P.C. advocate, so go ahead. I was just pointing out that Muslims get pretty rattled about "Moslem".
Do all Americans, male or female, have equal access to the jobs that offer these benefits? Are there no other factors involved here?
Comment #199165 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 9:02 am
epeeist,
Now, it may be fact that I live in a female household (wife, two daughters - even my daughter's guinea pig was female) and that my wife teaches at an all girls school
124. 'I despise Islamism': Ian McEwan faces backlash over press interview
Comment #199163 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 9:00 am
Tera Bat
CC: Goldy, Bonzai
Reading assignment 51 Documents, Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis. Also try Zionism in the Age of the Dictators. The latter is tough to find as I think certain Zionist groups have bought up the copies and done whatever with them... (burnt maybe).
Anyhow, the Zionists not only actively collaborated with the Nazis they had the Israeli Navy trained in fascist Italy (See "Black Shirts").
ohhhh and Tera,
Eichmann toured Jerusalem and other parts of Palestine at the invitation of the Zionists. He came through Egypt posing as a British citizen. And don't forget what Ben Gurion said:
"If I could save every Jewish child in the hands of the Nazis and have no Zionist state, or I could sacrifice these children in order to have a state, I would choose the state."
This compared to when the Nazis offered up hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews for ransom, and the Zionists refused to trade medical supplies and trucks for 200,000 Jewish lives.
125. 'I despise Islamism': Ian McEwan faces backlash over press interview
Comment #199158 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 8:54 am
Vinelectric,
*chuckle* The problem is Iran is a state and so people think fighting them is about bombing a state and shooting down planes. But... Iran has done a lot of work to establish assets around the globe. A response would be forthcoming from Hezbollah. That would be troublesome as they are rearming and the rockets they have can reach a greater stretch of Israel than before. Not to mention the people that Iran likely has in place in Europe and elsewhere, I would take their threats seriously.
The US would be hard pressed to attack Iran in an effective way while tied down in Afghanistan and Iraq. The US would be able to use its air force to strike Iran, but Iran is a big place and has modern air defenses, and they are getting more modern with the upcoming delivery of Russian radar systems that will allow Iran to track low flying aircraft (this is how Israel attack Osirak, low flying assault). It also has more advance SAM systems that can track and hit modern war planes.
Iran will also start using the Naval units of the Pastarand to disrupt oil shipments, which means there would have to be a full fledged naval engagement as well. The economic pain would be massive as well.
Iran could be defeated, but it may not be worth the price.
Comment #199148 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 8:42 am
epeeist,
I don't hear women complaining about captains of sinking ships yelling "women and children first."
Funny how that works, no?
Shouldn't we strive to end this blatant discrimination?
127. Mormons urged to back ban on same-sex marriage
Comment #199143 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 8:35 am
I notice, no feminist has ever complained when the captain of a sinking ship yelled "Women and children first"....
Funny how that works.
128. Saudi Marriage Officiant : 'It Is Allowed To Marry A Girl At The Age Of One'.
Comment #199139 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 8:28 am
Laurie B.,
On moslem women:
- If more young women had jobs and careers offering 401K and decent retirement prospects independent of their partners
129. Saudi Marriage Officiant : 'It Is Allowed To Marry A Girl At The Age Of One'.
Comment #199129 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 8:09 am
qomak,
Hahahaha I send these to my Muslim friends from time to time. They don't appreciate it.
GoneGolfing,
What is the handicap... you golf much?
Comment #199124 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 8:01 am
Steve,
Sorry if my tone was out of line.
Anyway, these kind of statistics fall into "Lies, Damn lies, then there are statistics." It was a study that shows that there is a general wage discrepency (a very very small one), this doesn't account for the fact that men and women may PREFER different professions than men, and the difference in pay is due to the profession and not gender.
For instance, higher risk occupations pay more, and men are more likely to do this.
How many female Alaskan crab fishermen(women) do you see? Combat soldiers? Police officers? Fire fighters? These all have higher pay involved due to the risk, pay that exceeds what the pay for jobs for people of comparable education levels pay. For instance for someone without a college education, the police and fire departments will pay quite well.
Comment #199111 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 7:34 am
Steve,
Yes it is a worthy goal.
Also, you didn't address the fact that the study you mention neglects such critical details as to make it completely useless. It doesn't even function as a general indicator as TOCT and I both note. It is merely something designed to stir the pot, which does nothing except get people emotional based on grossly incomplete facts. Is this the kind of rationalism you promote for making social change? I sure don't, real facts, for real problems.
132. Saudi Marriage Officiant : 'It Is Allowed To Marry A Girl At The Age Of One'.
Comment #199108 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 7:31 am
GoneGolfing,
Thanks, forgot the "i" once again.
But I got "Ward" and "Churchill" right, and I am not accusing anyone of being an apologist for "plagiarism".
I am still waiting on the citations from secularist, care to help him out?
133. Saudi Marriage Officiant : 'It Is Allowed To Marry A Girl At The Age Of One'.
Comment #199101 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 7:25 am
TOCT,
Ohhhh man do I have a list:
2. Muhammad said the devil urinates in your ear at night.
3. Muhammad always brought three stones whenever he went to shit.
4. Muhammad said that Satan farts everytime he hears the call to prayer.
5. Allah likes sneezing but dislikes yawning. Muhammad said yawning is from Satan.
6. Muhammad said wash your nose in the morning because Satan goes into the upper part of the nose at night.
I can go alllllll day.
Comment #199097 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 7:21 am
epeeist,
Pro-choice... Yes that is a very worthy cause. My commendations to your daughter. To be honest I had completely forgotten about the abortion issue, thank you for pointing that out. If feminist groups are active in the right to choose, they are not useless. The government has no business telling a private citizen what to do with their body, especially based on religious precepts and not science.
Steve,
Thanks for the link. It looks like a conference focusing on Indigenous Australians. However, I think I was talking about American feminism... which I think epeeist addressed.
As for salaries, I would not doubt that wage difference is possible, but simply saying "pay for full time employment is different" means nothing. For instance, what happens when more women become teachers and more men become fire fighters. In the US a teacher will make $50,000-60,000 (sometimes more) and a firefighter will maker $100,000-$150,000 (depending on overtime).
So a study that showed that women fire fighters make less than men, or women teachers make less than men would have been helpful. Just saying "full time employment" is disengenuous in the extreme and omits so much relevant detail as to be nothing but propaganda.
135. Saudi Marriage Officiant : 'It Is Allowed To Marry A Girl At The Age Of One'.
Comment #199067 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 6:50 am
Bonzai,
I went to Berkeley, I saw plenty of professors living the good life telling people how "hard" they have it... And that goes for just about every different kind of person you can imagine.
And the academic papers they write (some are so totally ridiculous as to be laughable) are not in a language the average person will be able to read. So it is more a self congratulation club, a lot of "Yeah that's right, you tell 'em".
*EDIT* Take the "Native American" Ward Churchill... a man who was discovered to be NOT Native American and an Academic fraud and plagarist.
Comment #199064 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 6:44 am
mordacious1,
Well I hope women don't talk business in the women's locker room. I am not allowed in there, and if business is done, then I want in (actually I might be on to something).
What about all black colleges? No business is done there? No jobs found, no deals struck? It is one more example of the White Male Guilt (we probably deserve some grief, but come on). If you want this to go forward, then it had better go forward on all fronts. I want Grambling U. torn down. I want all women's clubs disbanded. If I have a friday night poker game with my male friends and we talk business, does the government need to send in an FBI strike team to bust in through my door and put an end to this? The government needs to leave private citizens the fuck alone, it is simple.
Do I think they should let women into Augusta? Why not... But it is a PRIVATE club and the government is seeking to regulate a private club, administered by private funds. As much as I may not like the policies, I really cannot tell 300 men what to do (they are private citizens free to congregate however they wish).
Steve,
No problem. Simply show me one instance where feminists are talking about priorities in the world and are ranking problems like the ones I mentioned ahead of whether they can get together and smoke cigars at the Elks club.
I don't like generalizations either, but that post was simply "my experience" qualified by "I don't research this in depth". I am honestly waiting to be convinced otherwise, it would be refreshing.
137. Saudi Marriage Officiant : 'It Is Allowed To Marry A Girl At The Age Of One'.
Comment #199054 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 6:19 am
advocatus,
Now if you are also a left handed Jewish attorney, that would be something.
Comment #199052 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 6:15 am
Fizhburn,
Well... The problem is that I don't hear feminists talking about the big issues, even here. Now they may be doing this, but I don't see it, and to be fair I don't research this in depth.
I would like to see women come out and complain about Rap music and a general culture of misogyny in the African American community. I think it is high time we stopped accepting the terms "Bitch" and "Ho" as acceptable demonstrables for women. I think this is perpetuating a culture of disrespect for women in the African American community, and it is tolerated as "Artistic expression". Sort of like Al Sharpton complaining about Don Imus calling the Rutgers Women's Basketball Team "Nappy headed ho's", while regularly appearing with rap "artists" who say things far worse about black women.
It seems to me, feminists make headlines trying to get (as Podaar notes) on a traditionally all male golf course. I don't see a problem with an all male golf course as long as we have all black colleges, all women clubs, etc...
I may be just be upset by the current political climate where it is simply a sport to blame white men for everything from terrorism to rained out picnics. And this after I went to Saudi Arabia and saw women utterly oppressed, with no hope of an improved life because they cannot even leave the country. So go ahead and try to get your round of golf at Augusta National, but just realize that breaking the barrier of a club with 300 members (universe-wide) is your priority and that says a lot about you.
139. Saudi Marriage Officiant : 'It Is Allowed To Marry A Girl At The Age Of One'.
Comment #199049 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 5:59 am
If I may throw a quotation out there on gay marriage:
"If gays want to be unhappy too, let them".
*ducks*
140. Saudi Marriage Officiant : 'It Is Allowed To Marry A Girl At The Age Of One'.
Comment #199047 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 5:52 am
Secularist,
I just started marking you as a troll.
No one here is apologizing for the Wahhabis. And by the way, why don't you learn how to spell "Wahhabi".
Of course if you have some evidence of apologetics for Wahhabis, why don't you post it now. If not, kindly shut the fuck up.
141. Saudi Marriage Officiant : 'It Is Allowed To Marry A Girl At The Age Of One'.
Comment #199044 by al-rawandi on June 25, 2008 at 5:45 am
One of the first things the Mullahs of the Iranian revolution did when they came to power was to reinstate the law, abolished many years earlier by the devilish Shah Rezi, that allowed men to marry such young girls.
To me, a "culture" that makes people think that this is normal, is morally completely bankrupt. I can't even loath it, only hold it beneath contempt.
Do you have any citation for this claim that Khomeini married a 9 year old. I know he discussed it in general terms in the Tahrirvasiyoleh.
And it was Shah Reza Pahlavi.
But you are correct, the culture that allows this is below contempt.
Comment #198867 by al-rawandi on June 24, 2008 at 3:18 pm
Ok gotta go batter some women....
Have to pick up some flour on the way home.
Comment #198863 by al-rawandi on June 24, 2008 at 3:16 pm
mordacious1,
Did you know that there is a "wave" of feminism in the Arab world, most notably Egypt, where the women demand to wear the Abaya and veil as a sign of their human right to choose Islam. I doubt they come to the conference... assuming there is one.
Comment #198854 by al-rawandi on June 24, 2008 at 3:09 pm
teapot,
Pretty good, but they need Tapatio, otherwise they are just bland....
Comment #198851 by al-rawandi on June 24, 2008 at 3:05 pm
Frankus,
Nope, that is why I clarified the statement later with "Those that..." after I was reminded to be specific, but I see you didn't quote that part, I thought you would have.
But I will say, American feminism isn't very useful anymore (IMO), I would like to see the liberal feminist movement issue some statements that actually dealt with the serious issues that women face aroud the world... like being murdered for whatever in Pakistan, or gang raped for not covering their faces.
And yes, Title IX is now an act of retribution and only hurts college athletics in general, again IMO.
*EDIT* as a former college athlete, I am a little biased here as I saw men who worked their whole lives have scholarships taken away to give them to women who only just started a sport, a sport which has zero spectator base.
And remember all of these statements I made with regards to ISLAM, on a thread ABOUT ISLAM. So I appreciate you removing the context... oh wait, no I don't.
Comment #198844 by al-rawandi on June 24, 2008 at 2:59 pm
Podaar,
My father (a psychologist) worked for a year (volunteer) at a battered women's shelter. Most of the women were African Americans, and I have no delusions about how hard some women have it in some parts of the US even.
I am extremely upset at people who pretend to be feminists and then turn a blind eye to women being bought and sold (yes traded like a commodity) while worrying about rowing scholarships at colleges here in the US. I mean commmmeee onnnnnn people.
Broke through the ceiling? Nice. I read a study that showed women were better stock traders than men because they don't get wrapped up in the quick profit on a fast turn around.
Comment #198834 by al-rawandi on June 24, 2008 at 2:48 pm
fizhburn,
Oh for Christ's sake not you too? Just remember when you go on a wind mill hunt, bring your block quotes.
148. Saudi Marriage Officiant : 'It Is Allowed To Marry A Girl At The Age Of One'.
Comment #198820 by al-rawandi on June 24, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Corylus,
Yup. I am the tall one with the long goatee.
Comment #198819 by al-rawandi on June 24, 2008 at 2:17 pm
Tera Bat,
You are as mysoginistic as the most devout Muslim.
Comment #198816 by al-rawandi on June 24, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Tera Bat,
I've been reading the comments on this forum for the past four days and for the first time in twenty years I'm reconsidering religion. So if your intent is to discourage people from renouncing god, or push them to return to god, by all means, continue to be so abusive