101. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169532 by BillySands on April 26, 2008 at 8:48 am

Not to mention the intervening layers of ash between sedimentary layers

Not to forget lava flows. Lava erupted underwater forms "pillows"

But the fossils of T-Rex, for instance, have been found many thousands of miles apart. Long periods of time might help with your idea, but wide distribution of the fossils does not.

However, they only apear in rocks consistently dated to the last 5 million years of the cretatious - and always below the Iridium layer of the K/T impact

102. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169529 by BillySands on April 26, 2008 at 8:38 am

Much sedimentary rock contains stratified fossils - proof that it can't have been laid down in one go.

Not only that, but you often find different environments preserved in different layers - eg coral reef, coal forest, lagoon, reef etc. You can even find in situ trees (and not modern ones) preserved in specific layers in between sediments. Not possible in a flood model
http://www.hmag.gla.ac.uk/Neil/FossilGrove/index.html

103. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169513 by BillySands on April 26, 2008 at 8:10 am

Troll bot,
Jericho had no walls at the time Joshua was supposedly killing babies because god told him to. In fact, Jericho was probabably unoccupied at the time.
I suggest you reference sources that dont talk about talking snakes and dinosaurs on arks.
Got anything to say on the flood yet?

I found your comment to Eli disgusting. Is this the moral standards of christianity? Your blasphemous zombie must be proud of you. What did he say about respect? Strange you ignore that when you claim genesis is accurate. So how do you reconcile insulting people with 1 cor 13?
Is it because unlike you she does not have webs betwen her fingers? That's discrimination!

104. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169230 by BillySands on April 25, 2008 at 4:25 pm

Evidence of irreducible complexity? And I dont mean a statement of your limited understanding - or creative limitations

105. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #169218 by BillySands on April 25, 2008 at 4:13 pm

Flood?

106. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #168997 by BillySands on April 25, 2008 at 1:59 pm

Flood?

107. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #168652 by BillySands on April 25, 2008 at 9:01 am

Instead he was tackled on his own ground and was shown to be completely inept in defending it. Whenever he tried to escape he was brought back to the subject.

Yes, the burden of proof always lies with the fundie. It is better to get them to prove their allegation. Whe dont need to defend anything. They have to make the case

108. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #168640 by BillySands on April 25, 2008 at 8:49 am

After "The Flood" the world supposedly had 8 people left.

8 people who somehow managed to repopulate the world instantly and make it look as though the egytian pharaoh and empire continued as normal - despite being obliterated (apparently)

Sometimes I find it hard to believe that even an idiot could believe this stuff, then I meet creotards online

109. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #168620 by BillySands on April 25, 2008 at 8:36 am

Hi Al,
Hope you are sitting down, the last Solomaic King was Zedekiah whose reign ended in 587/6 BCE, which is a bit confusing as god said there would be one on the throne for ever - no conditions attatched! (2 Sam. 7:8-16, 2 Sam. 7:12, 1 Chron. 22:9-10). How can this be if the bible is the true word of god?

110. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #168610 by BillySands on April 25, 2008 at 8:29 am

God as our Creator is supreme and owes us nothing.

Objection! Unsubstantiated claim!

I reckon he owes me lots of sex actually

Second. Were you there during the flood. Do you have a census of the population that supports your mental speculations on the number of deaths?

Sorry was there a flood? where is the evidence?

111. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #168579 by BillySands on April 25, 2008 at 8:09 am

horse evolution...that's a good one. The only place you will find that discussed regarding macro-evolution is in textbooks used in the indoctrination centers and by atheists that are a little behind the curve on that one.

Love the insane denial. You will actually find them in rocks if you care to look. They are particularly nice because they show gradual toe change in at least 3 successive layers.

Tell me why, if the bible is the word of god, that there is no descendant of Solomon sitting on the throne of isreal?

What about the flood. Withholding information and turning people away with insane comments is a sin. Your god would do something worse than tying a millstone around your neck and throwing you in a pond for that. Your blood is on your own hands

112. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #168324 by BillySands on April 25, 2008 at 2:40 am

Troll boy

I could put my youngest on here and you would get schooled on the reliability of the Bible but he doesn't use or like profanity and both of us choose to not waste our time with someone that is living proof of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics.

Sorry, does that pass as the ultimate answer in validating the bible? Excuse me if I am not convinced.

Perhaps your first born should read the posts to you - you might then address what is being asked.

So remnant, with holding vital information from us are we. Suppose your god is real. Our blood is on your hands. I must say you have very little love for man kind. So, where is the evidence that the bible is a divinely inspired book?

I suggest that you dont answer because you cant and using the bible to validate itself proves nothing. So, where is the proof? What anout the flood? what about shoe horned prophecies? what about why ID is science? what about evidence for creation? How about you actually provide evidence for creation and not think that some how attacking evolution (and failing) is evidence.

Evolution does not violate the second law of thermodynamics. Was that some sort of retarded insult that never worked?


I agree with Brian on "Dave the physics prof". I would have expected a more informed approach from a physics prof - unless of course he is at Liberty U.

113. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #168160 by BillySands on April 24, 2008 at 4:10 pm

Jesus seems like a pussy. Muhammad would kick his ass and take his lunch money.

Al, Mohammed always kicks jebus' ass on faith fighter http://www.molleindustria.org/faith-fighter

I see troll boy has nothing to say on the flood or why he thinks the bible is true - a basic requirement for his position!

114. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #167447 by BillySands on April 24, 2008 at 3:59 am

Philip,

The sad thing is that this guy and all his type are brain dead. None of them can produce a single piece of evidence so when they meet people who demand it they automatically have to assume there must be something wrong with the other person. Totally insane arrogance. This annoyed me no end when I was struggling free of my personal period of endarkenment. God botherers were always puting the blame on me for doubting. It says more about them than us. I suspect people like remnant are hankering for the good old days when you could kill intelligent people.

115. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #167423 by BillySands on April 24, 2008 at 2:58 am

Go wash your potty brain out this instant! I am a historian, I have a good degree from Southampton University, England thank you very much! I have a very clear knowledge as to what constitutes Primary, Secondary, Tertiary or bible evidence!

It never ceases to amaze and disturb me, that when a cretinist can not provide or evaluate evidence for himself, he always accuses his opponent of being incompetent. Sad really. They even extend that to other christians who disagree with them on evolution and stoneing homosexuals.

116. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #167421 by BillySands on April 24, 2008 at 2:54 am

Trollboy slevvered

Is being a liar a required doctrine of atheism? I never said that gravity did not exist.

Interesting what you did there. You took two seperate statements, stuck them tether and responded to something I never said.
The lie is you constantly saying that you are leaving (only to keep returning)

My point about gravity - clear to anyone with a brain was not that you denied it, but you are inconsistent in the way you view different theories. Evolution although well supported is not yet fully explained, so you reject it because it is not in the bible (tell us what makes the bible true).
Gravity is supported by evidence, but not fully explained, yet you accept that.

Learn to read. Also, if you could learn to put quotes in boxes and show us you are not a robot, that would be nice too.

117. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #167078 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 3:38 pm

Trollboy

How many times are you going to lie and say you are not coming back today.

Have you jumped off that cliff yet to show that gravity is not real because it is not fully explained? You could always ask god to send you some angels.

118. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #167057 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 3:16 pm

Trollboy

I asked to see your calculation on the probability of a god existing that is supposedly able to make all the things you cant get your head round. Where are they?

The problem you atheists have is not that you cannot see evidence for a Creator in nature. You refuse to because of the implications.

That's the sprit, you keep telling yourself that. It's a good way to bury your own head in the sand when you have no evidence.

119. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #166720 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 11:50 am

Comment #166529 by Remnant

And the probability of a god who can do all this is? (please show how you worked it out?)

Oh yeah, Jusus - most of his life was made up by taking bits of the OT out of context and pretending he fulfilled a prophecy.

120. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #166538 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 9:42 am

I answered the question, you imbecile, but you're too thick to comprehend the answer.

"The ways of Irate are greater than the ways of fucktards"

Book of Quetz 6:66

121. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #166470 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 9:04 am

I bet he does a lot of handwaving in private, if you know what I mean.

With or without his pants on?

122. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #166467 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 9:03 am

He's probably isn't intelligent enough to change his own underpants.

He probably isn't intelligent enough to pull them down before going to the toilet.

The fall of man and the resulting deterioration of DNA.

Shame we have all those deformed and diseased fossils that are older than man.

123. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #166454 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 8:56 am

Isa 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.

So god could be having you on?

Like he was having the isrealites on:

Jeremiah 36:30
Therefore thus says the Lord concerning Jehoiakim king of Judah, he shall have none to sit on the throne of David.

Vs

II Kings 24:6
So Jehoiakim slept with his fathers and Jehoiachin his son reigned in his stead.

124. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #166447 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 8:52 am

I feel that the holes, and they are numerous in this UNPROVEN THEORY, should be presented and discussed openly...

Holes/gaps do not disprove a theory. Do you deny the theory of gravity? It's not fully understood - so you deny it right? Take a long walk off a cliff for us and show us gravity is dreamt up by atheists.

The truth is that evolution kills your fairy story, so you have to deny it.

125. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #166440 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 8:48 am

Here's what the Bible says about you...

Only a simpleton believes everything they are told (prov 14:15)

You seem to believe what the bible tells you - can you work it out?

126. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #166354 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 7:33 am

The power of the priestly caste would be unchecked, as there exists no reliable method to corroborate degrees of Holy Spirit guidance.

Then they can go to war with another sect who are told to worship slightly differently by the same so called holy spirit.

127. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #166352 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 7:26 am

One of the main problems I can see with the flood is the change in salinity of many aquatic environments. Many fish are adapted to only specific osmotic conditions, and all of the extra water, no matter what its composition, would have been a real problem. There would have been considerable mixing of fresh and sea water.

Not only that, many species have specific trophic requirements. Some only feed on coral polyps. Such a flood would wipe out coral reefs. Others are Algae scrapers - all that silt covering the food sources. Again, the flood can not account for the species flocks found in the African rift lakes either.

What about the bristle cone pines that are alive today that are older than the flood?

I feel sorry for these floodologists.

128. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #166324 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 6:26 am

id say it was closer to Canis.

I was thinking more Rattus. You have to laugh. I remember some site http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/dinos.shtml
saying that the leviathan of the OT was evidence of dinosaurs. Specifically, they identified it as Kronosaurus (a pliosaur not a dinosaur)

Wonderr how they managed to maintain parasitoids on the ark too. Noah's family must also have been infected with every human specific pathogen too. Wonder how their tissues never turned to mush and bits gropped off of them. Wonder how the syphillis and clamydia never left them sterile?

129. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #166297 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 5:25 am

debbyo, check this out for evidence of man living with dinosaurs http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/133

The thing that is supposed to be Eryops just cracks me up.

130. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #166257 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 3:58 am

Not only do they have to show why each of the dating methods is wrong, but why they are all wrong by the same amount.

Thats the problem with cretinists, they get it the wrong way round. They go to more and more bizarre lengths to try and fit the facts into their model. I remember someone (probably devolved) dumped a link on the flood that cut out the need to explain all that nasty geology. Their solution was to ignore. It wasn't needed because genesis was written by witnesses (sadly I can hear remnant agreeing).

I also find it funny (in a laugh at them kind of way) that we know the Pharonic line was intact. We know who the Pharoah was at the supposed time, and we know he died well after the supposed event. I cant describe how stupid creotards are. They somehow think that one family on Ararat continued the known world empires and re-populated them almost instantly and re-instated known trade links.

131. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #166245 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 3:38 am

Of course Noah would have been a better boat builder

Well, he would have to be, Argentinasaurus alone weighed 100 tonnes. Wonder how they stopped the Giganotosaurses from eating them?

Whenever I am on an apologetic web site (or directed to one) the first thing I do is check out what it says about dinosaurs. It tells me instantly if I have strayed on to the nutty side.

I know this isn't particularly good evidence, since China isn't mentioned in the bible.

But ...But.... the olympics, I've seen evidence - I have been fooled by the atheistics baby bombing TV channels! And that "chineese" guy I sometimes have lunch with - Curse you Darwin - NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!


Remnant, what were noah's last words?

"Who brought those bloody termites on board?"

132. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #166238 by BillySands on April 23, 2008 at 3:14 am

I never said it wasn't, matey. I said that an unbeliever cannot properly interpret Scripture without guidance from the Holy Spirit.

So, you admit a contradiction. "John" (probably not the real author) makes no mention of needing the holy spirit. Also, his gospel is supposedly a witness accout - no interpretation required - with or with out the holy spirit. The whole point is that this is supposed to be evidence to make you believe. So to say that we need the holy spirit is total rubbish. Which brings us to another thing. How come "the holy spirit" tells different believers different things concerning women priests, gay bishops, bombing Arabs for oil and pre-marital sex?

You have not only proven that, you have also proven that you have a problem with reading comprehension as well.

News to me. I suggest you read my answer again - if your comprehension skills are up to the job. You have clearly demonstrated logic is not your strong point. If you still feel otherwise do provide some evidence.

The truth is not an insult except to one like you that rejects the truth.

Really, and you know the truth how? I suspect if you realised that the truth was that your most cherished beliefs were worthless, would be offended by that.

I have no contempt for unbelievers I pray for them and feel sorry that they choose to remain blind to the truth. I do not send anyone anywhere. You do that by rejecting God's plan of salvation in Jesus Christ. God will reluctantly give you whatever destination you choose. I cannot determine or change your destination, only you can do that through faith in Christ.

Yeah right! You will actually find a few pre-determinist verses in the bible too - so much for consistency! You said that you have preached the gospel (which one?) and our blood was now on our hands as a result - sounds like you think you are sending us to hell.

You, "Do you happen to believe in the flood too?"

Yes

Now I can never take you seriously. There are so many fatal flaws in floodology.

Here's a simple one. Lets assume at a very conservative estimate there are currently 10 million species on the plannet (forget the obvious issue of space for now). Creationists usually boast that the fossil record is 99% incomplete. That means a total of 1 billion species have ever existed (I said it was conservative). Noah is given a week (604800 seconds) to round them up. He is therefore rounding up and placing 1 species on the ark every 600 micro seconds (To indicate how fast that is, if 1 micro second was a second, a second would last about 11 and a half days).

Is Kool aid something that is supposed to be amusingly mature, respectful and witty? Or do only retards get the joke?

133. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #165897 by BillySands on April 22, 2008 at 2:29 pm

I'll give you a pass since your ignorance of what the Bible teaches is so blatant. I do have to admit that it is humorous to watch an atheist get all befuddled by their lack of Biblical knowledge though.

Yet my little verse contradicts your boring out of context passages. John is clearly saying that his gospel is presented that you may believe - you are being selective matey!
Bring on the insults they are more amusing than your "arguments".
You do however show your contempt for humanity by not engaging properly with people you believe are going to hell - from your last post, you seem to think you are speeding us on our way, and you are proud of it.

Do you happen to believe in the flood too?

134. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #165779 by BillySands on April 22, 2008 at 9:56 am

I find it funny that Dawkins, when caught off guard, admitted to ID in the movie "Expelled".

Did he indeed? Or was he just taking the piss out of it and you fell for it?

Be a good boy and answer your questions

135. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #165775 by BillySands on April 22, 2008 at 9:51 am

What's the best way to circumcise navyjake?

Kick his cousin's cow in the jaw

136. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #165563 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 4:59 pm

TRUTHID guy

How many new base pairs do you think it takes to make a dog develop an extra claw?

137. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #165559 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 4:51 pm

How can you begin to explain evolution when you can't even begin to explain where life came from in the first place?

Missed that one. You said that you had looked into this stuff (even though you didnt want to read books). This is so basic it is depressing. Evolution is not the theory of abiogenesis - dont even ask about that! You came here talking about macroevolution and people here want answers from you first. Can you begin to understand why well informed people get frustrated when we get the same misinformed stuff from ignorant people who claim to know what evolution is about and why it is wrong?

Maybe new folk shoud be directed to FAQs before they are allowed to set up an account and play with the big boys and girls

138. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #165545 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 4:18 pm

So why do you believe in evolution?

Evidence. You can find it in things called books and peer reviewed scientific journals(yeah, I know that was hitting an unarmed man with a sledgehammer)

Here's a scientific question: can evolutionary biology explain how creationists developed the ability to write without ever having developed the ability to read?

I think the evidence supports the idea that retards evolved from creationists. Perhaps, these guys are back mutations?

This also solves the problem of how come there are still creationists about if they all evolved into retards.

Iamb_Farticus
Good that you at least recognise Stein is a twat. Take the next step and say so without letting your dislike of Dawkins make you look like a crotch maggot!

139. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #165487 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 2:06 pm

If I were walking in a desert and came upon a highly detailed intricate sand castle, would I assume it developed by chance because I did not see the creator?

Do sand castles acquire mutations and pass them on to their offspring? Are these sand castle offspring then subjected to natural selection?

Such ignorance it hurts!

Still not watching the Ken Miller video I see.

Are you David Robertson in disguise? Seriously!

140. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #165478 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 1:58 pm

TheTruthID - always a great start - shows you have an open mind. I'm waiting for one called "IamRightAndYouBabyEatingDarwinistFagPigScumAreWrong (the pixies told me so)" - Probably too many letters for them.

I think you have shown that you are not interested in learning - you wont read books and that video I posted is over an hour long yet you have posted again within a few minutes.

You are proposing a designer, so we want evidence. Saying to cant work something out is only evidence that you cant work something out.

141. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #165448 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 1:36 pm

If someone can show me how something simple can evolve into something complex, I'd be more than willing to listen.

Enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVRsWAjvQSg

Pay attention to the flagellum, and ignore the disgusting prayer at the start.

142. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #165441 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 1:27 pm

More importantly - every time you fail to answer marks you out to be a complete no-nothing and we deduct another 10 from your estimated IQ. Not long before you are down to negative numbers.

You are in a more generous mood than me here. I fear that when he left whatever fundie site he came from to come here, that he significantlly lowered the average IQs of both sites.
Maybe he will tell us why ID is science, but I have a feeling that he wont

143. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #165437 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 1:20 pm

You ask, what does ID predict? How has MACRO-evolution predictions been tested and whether it can be falsified and misrepresented? I want to know what tests were cunducted and what the results were. I challenge you to show me one shred of scientific evidence that proves MACRO-evolution?

http://www.smh.com.au/news/science/fourfinned-dolphin-an-evolutionary-throwback/2006/11/05/1162661544728.html

Now go away and stop bothering us with your ignorance - unless you can show me some evidence of creation. A film of god doing it would do it - any god

144. Open Letter to a victim of Ben Stein's lying propaganda

Comment #165435 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 1:15 pm

Comment #165318 by MPhil

Well said.

Robertson, you are a disgusting little cunt!

145. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #165409 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 12:53 pm

Remember the guy who came across from Vox Day's site with the penis replacement as an avatar.

Was it on his head?

Bullies are cowards, and keyboard bullies moreso.

The guy sounds a pussy with a small penis

146. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #165399 by BillySands on April 21, 2008 at 12:47 pm

Is navyjake for real?

My Family considers it an Honor to give your life for others.

If I can find someone contemplating suicide, would you kill yourself in his place - pretty please?

I grew up in a God-loving culture that doesn't believe in killing innocent babies or euthanizing the worthless.

What? like doG does in Exodus 11 or Joshua?

my predecessers enjoyed killing Darwin-loving Nazis wherever they could find them.

Dont you mean nazi loving christians? http://www.nobeliefs.com/mementoes.htm

And like I said, my side doesn't start anything, we just pray to God that he give us the strength to finish it.

You mean like Vietnam? You reall showed the world how to get your asses kicked by some short guy on bicycles. Caught Osama yet?

Shame David Robertson is not here to see the tolerant love of christians.

147. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #164312 by BillySands on April 20, 2008 at 3:30 am

Remnant are you Di from the FCOS? You sound insane enough, then I saw this "You are free to believe whatever you wish but so far you have not detailed what you believe so I conclude that whatever it is you do believe is based on blind faith."

http://www.fcosonline.org/index.php?topic=25.0;prev_next=next#new

Sounds very like your answer to one of my posts (which wasn't what I asked - something Di seems to do a lot)

Those hell comments and your denial of evolution are typical of David Robertson's church

148. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #164307 by BillySands on April 20, 2008 at 3:23 am

It is one thing to believe that we are going to hell. It is quite another to to think that you have somehow been responsible for it and be proud of that fact. I hope we find a cure for remnant soon. I feel sad that he cant enjoy the benefits of a functional and balanced mind.

149. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #164298 by BillySands on April 20, 2008 at 3:02 am

He's going to be next to us in hell, if memory serves.

Bollocks! That's just going bring down the neighbourhood and lower the property values in hell now!

150. Lying for Jesus?

Comment #164292 by BillySands on April 20, 2008 at 2:47 am

I'll do just these three or four for you because like I said, the problem is that you are unsaved and cannot have an understanding of the Bible. The error is with your understanding

Isn't that the so called gnostic heresy that you some how need a special inside knowlegde- this gut cant even agree with other christians (infact none of them can - so much for its truth).

Strange that John should have a different take on the gospels:
John 20:31"but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name."

It appears no special knowledge is required - if you believe fairy stories that is!